Re: [Trisquel-users] Seeking for a backup tool
Guys, thank you all for your kindness to help me with my problem. Unfortunalely, I was very busy lately, and was not able to quickly respond to all of your reactions. The bad thing is that I was not found what I was hoping for, but at least there are some alternatives that, if they will work, I would be happy with them too. The next time I make a backup, I will try some GUI frontend for dd+rsync, testing the ones from your suggestions first, and I will also look up for some others on the Internet. At least I know what path should I take.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Seeking for a backup tool
What do you mean by putting the /home/user folder into a dedicated partition? It's already on a separate XFS file-system, and that cannot be changed (XFS partitions cannot be shrunk), unless I recreate the partition from backup. Since backup is not something I'd like to pay too much attention, I want to keep it as simple as possible, in other words, connecting the external drive into the USB port, starting the backup software, selecting to do a backup, and the application should do the rest for me automatically, hassle-free. I want to do this once in a while, and I would not like to backup my local data from home folder separately, although this will possibly work also by using Deja-Dup, and this seems to be the closest way to do what I want. It's a shame Clonezilla doesn't contain such an important functionality.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Seeking for a backup tool
Deja Dup is a general data backup tool. It does not do partition cloning, so it doesn't fit the task. Other than than, it's a nice app, mainly useful for recovering accidentally modified/deleted/lost files, using timed backups on the background of the most important stuff.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Seeking for a backup tool
user interface - anything other than working with command line utilities
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You mean by using dd+rsync, right?
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Does this support disk cloning and image compression? Both of them are important aspects for me.
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rsync has many options. There are gui frontends, as mentioned earlier, but a simple script is very useful for me. Maybe it could work for you. Some examples: - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Full_System_Backup_with_rsync - http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=28150
[Trisquel-users] Seeking for a backup tool
To be short, I am searching for an application with a user interface, that supports updating/refreshing readily available partition image clones, so that I does not need to create a full drive backup every-time I make a backup. I already used Clonezilla to backup two internal notebook hard drives with success, but AFAIK it does not support this feature. Any suggetions?
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What would be the source to update / refresh partion backups ? I do not exactly know a GUI tool but in the end this could boil down to mounting a dd image file via loop back option (similar to an ISO), apply the changes from the source to the dump via rsync and then unmount the dd image. I am not aware of any backup solution which allows to do incremental backups to a full dump. Depending on your knowledge I would go for Python and some toolkit (e.g. GTK) or may be Gambas / Lazarus plus some shell commands. Gambas if you are more the Basic kind of guy or Lazarus if you worked with Delpi / Opbject pascal so far. It is really easiy to hack together a simplistic GUI in the form editors today.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Seeking for a backup tool
The source would be the first full backup. What I basically want is to eliminate the need for making complete data backups, when I do make a backup, say, once in a month. Since the majority of data will stay the same, it makes no sense to wait hours, just to have a difference of few megabytes (mainly documents, and scripts) saved. It does not need to have a GUI, an aptitude like UI is sufficient, but I really don't want to play with Terminal commands, since I have very bad experience with this. Since I am busy working on other projects (mainly with moving to cloud), and because I require a tool that I can rely and depend upon, working on a new GUI for some command-line tools is not an option for me.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Seeking for a backup tool
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 4:10 PM, myself...@gmail.com wrote: The source would be the first full backup. What I basically want is to eliminate the need for making complete data backups, when I do make a backup, say, once in a month. Since the majority of data will stay the same, it makes no sense to wait hours, just to have a difference of few megabytes (mainly documents, and scripts) saved. It does not need to have a GUI, an aptitude like UI is sufficient, but I really don't want to play with Terminal commands, since I have very bad experience with this. Since I am busy working on other projects (mainly with moving to cloud), and because I require a tool that I can rely and depend upon, working on a new GUI for some command-line tools is not an option for me. I've heard good things about rdiff-backup[1]. Citing from their website: rdiff-backup backs up one directory to another, possibly over a network. The target directory ends up a copy of the source directory, but extra reverse diffs are stored in a special subdirectory of that target directory, so you can still recover files lost some time ago. The idea is to combine the best features of a mirror and an incremental backup. rdiff-backup also preserves subdirectories, hard links, dev files, permissions, uid/gid ownership, modification times, extended attributes, acls, and resource forks. Also, rdiff-backup can operate in a bandwidth efficient manner over a pipe, like rsync. Thus you can use rdiff-backup and ssh to securely back a hard drive up to a remote location, and only the differences will be transmitted. Finally, rdiff-backup is easy to use and settings have sensical defaults. I usually use rsync, but I wanted to git rdiff-backup a go. Haven't done it yet because of lack of time. -- Stefano [1] http://www.nongnu.org/rdiff-backup/
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I don't have any network setup (just two laptops), and uploading to some cloud-storage service will be a way stupid idea. I am mainly satisfied with Clonezilla, just want an added functionality similar to the one used in Deja Dup, that will backup only the differences over the existing first backup. Since Clonezilla uses (gzip) compression algorithm to compress the saved data, updating is only possible through differences.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Seeking for a backup tool
I try to explain this as simple as possible. I have a laptop, with Trisquel installed, including my data files, like documents, multimedia files, various downloads, etc.. The data is saved on the internal HDD, which is assembled in the laptop. Now, I have an external 1TB HDD, that I can connect through USB 3.0 port (ExpressCard slot). I also have a Parted Magic bootable CD with Clonezilla on it. I want to make a full backup of the internal HDD, including every partition, MBR, etc. to the external drive, so I can later restore the clone of the disk in case of a HDD failure, and continue to use the laptop, like nothing have happened. The problem is, that I want to do this regularly, to ensure that my new data files will not be lost if something happen. Making a full 128-256GB images every month, also for multiple computers is not an efficient way of doing this.
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I can find this list, which includes several free programs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_disk_cloning_software (I've looked at how the RAID technology could help with that, but it doesn't seem to be a good alternative: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID#Data_backup)
Re: [Trisquel-users] Seeking for a backup tool
Found it. It's the rsync program - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/rsync - included in the following list: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem The first three programs on that list have graphical interfaces. (Which I assume that it's what you mean by user interfaces.)
Re: [Trisquel-users] Seeking for a backup tool
I didn't read the part about the full backup before I posted about Deja Dup. I haven't done that with Deja Dup before.
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I used Deja Dup a year or two ago. It allowed backup to an SD card ... maybe also to storage via USB or to a second harddrive. Is anyone more familiar with this program?
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I'd agree with Darksouls approach. This method would also mean quicker and less corrupted backups, with smaller file sizes.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Seeking for a backup tool
On 27/09/13 23:56, mYself wrote: To be short, I am searching for an application with a user interface, that supports updating/refreshing readily available partition image clones, so that I does not need to create a full drive backup every-time I make a backup. I already used Clonezilla to backup two internal notebook hard drives with success, but AFAIK it does not support this feature. Any suggetions? I've used and recommend Unison. It has a CLI and a GUI (Unison-gtk), it uses rsync in the background, and it's easy to use. You can also painlessly use SSH for synchronising files over the network. Andrew.
