[Trisquel-users] Work On Trisquel 7 Has Begun
Version 7, code named belenos, can now be debootstrapped from http://devel.trisquel.info/
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Very good :-D
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Great news! How will we upgrade, just do a software update? Or do we have to use an install disk/USB for the upgrade? Wowee!
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It's kinda premature for that but the usual methods should work which includes the stuff you mention.
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Isn't an iso image available? Just like Ubuntu GNOME (http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/trusty/alpha-2/). I have a low-speed internet connection.
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Good job! On which Ubuntu version will the new release be based on?
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Tanks for these great news Jason!:D Trisquel 7 will keep gnome fall-back or will use gnome shell? Mzee, will be based on Ubuntu 14.04 if im right. Triquel focuses only on LTS releases. Regards!
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I'm glad the process started early this time. -- I use: trisquel.info | ceata.org | fsf.org | riseup.net | duckduckgo.com | eff.org | h-node.com | torproject.org | airvpn.org | flattr.com | skepdic.com |
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Thrilled that the process has begun! :D What does it mean to 'debootstrap'? Maybe I'll just wait for the iso.
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I'm also very excited. I'm curious about the Desktop environment It will use... I have to say that I loved the combination of compiz-fusion plus Gnome fallback mode and even if I think that gnome shell is awesomly good I would prefer an exclusive desktop design for Trisquel like in the pasts releases. I'm also curious about the workarounds that the Trisquel developers will do to the Ubuntu packages. Best wishes.
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Good to see things are moving forward. Great!
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Are you still using Gnome fallback (or classic)...
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Good news. Thank you for your great work, Trisquel Team!!
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I don't think there is a fallback edition of GNOME 1.10 or 3.12, whatever Belenos will use.
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This is fantastic news! Absolutely delighted! Thanks for the news jxself! :-) What does 'debootstrapped' mean? :-P Steve
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@oysterboy, I believe after you install Trisquel, simply install kde-standard and you got your kde desktop! Running KDE on Trisquel and lovin' it!
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Now that there is software rendering available, there's no real reason not to use Gnome 3 Shell.
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I don't mind the change, but I might miss the classic taskbar. I really like it after increasing the system text size. Thanks for the news Jason!
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Now in http://archive.trisquel.info/trisquel/dists/belenos/
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Great news. I am looking forward to it.
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I'm still not getting anything from sudo do-release-upgrade; how pathetic would it be to put a VM of Belenus on my Toutatis host?
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Probably GNOME Panel again (GNOME Flashback). Package: trisquel Source: trisquel-meta Version: 7.0 Architecture: all Maintainer: Ruben Rodriguez Installed-Size: 29 Depends: trisquel-base, trisquel-desktop-common, gnome-app-install, trisquel-screensaver, trisquel-sounds, gvfs-fuse, gvfs-backends, gnome-screensaver, alacarte, gnome-applets, gnome-control-center, gnome-media, gnome-menus, gnome-nettool, gnome-panel, indicator-applet, gnome-power-manager, gnome-session-fallback, gnome-system-monitor, gnome-terminal, gnome-themes-standard, gstreamer0.10-alsa, gstreamer0.10-plugins-base-apps, gstreamer0.10-pulseaudio, libasound2-plugins, libgnomevfs2-extra, metacity, nautilus, nautilus-share, nautilus-sendto, pulseaudio, pulseaudio-esound-compat, pulseaudio-module-gconf, pulseaudio-module-x11, pulseaudio-module-bluetooth, gnome-bluetooth, gnome-user-share, libpam-smbpass, gnome-utils, rarian-compat, gedit, ibus-gtk, ibus-m17n, ibus-table, libgl1-mesa-glx, libgl1-mesa-dri, gnome-system-tools, policykit-1-gnome, policykit-desktop-privileges, yelp, language-selector, libpam-ck-connector, libsasl2-modules, libxp6, speech-dispatcher, gdm, indicator-application, indicator-appmenu, indicator-messages, indicator-status-provider-pidgin, indicator-datetime, indicator-power, indicator-session, indicator-sound, gnome-disk-utility, libgnome2-perl, trisquel-wallpapers, synaptic, system-config-printer-udev, system-config-printer-gnome, update-notifier, software-properties-gtk, apturl, xdg-user-dirs-gtk, screen-resolution-extra, zenity, gnome-keyring, libpam-gnome-keyring, network-manager-openvpn | wicd, network-manager-gnome | wicd, gnome-tweak-tool, gnome-user-guide, compiz, colord, icc-profiles-free Package: gnome-panel Version: 1:3.8.0-1ubuntu3+7.0trisquel1 Architecture: amd64 Package: gnome-session-fallback Source: gnome-panel Version: 1:3.8.0-1ubuntu3+7.0trisquel1 Architecture: all http://archive.trisquel.info/trisquel/dists/belenos/main/binary-amd64/Packages
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Why does Trisquel come with Quadrapassel as default software? (Games, tetris) It is buggy and not very good, and there is a far better similar version of Tetris called lTris? A trivial thing but wouldn't that be an improvement?
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I'm glad work has started months before the final Ubuntu 14.04 release. Does this mean we will get a final release of Trisquel 7 within a month or two of 14.04?
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t3g said "within a month or two of 14.04?" Once 14.04 is released it's probably best to wait a while for it to become more polished so it's probably more accurate to say that Trisquel 7 will be released "when it's ready" rather than assigning a specific date or time period.
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jxself said: "Once 14.04 is released it's probably best to wait a while for it to become more polished so it's probably more accurate to say that Trisquel 7 will be released "when it's ready" rather than assigning a specific date or time period." That said, what people can do it use it. Report bugs. Help get those bugs fixed in Ubuntu itself so that Trisquel doesn't have to fix them and can just import the updates (hey, it's less work!) Get familiar with package helpers and help maintain things by bashing packages into shape as they're pulled from Ubuntu (changes to the Git repo can be sent to the trisquel-devel mailing list.) And etc.
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Are you thinking around the 14.04.1 release? I ask because that is the release that Canonical suggests for upgrading from an older LTS (12.04) release on the desktop and server. That way they have time to work out the kinks for a smooth transition.
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Oh and one other thing: I see that the 3.11 kernel is in the Trisquel repos (Saucy kernel for 12.04) and I am wondering if you guys still thought about releasing an updated 6.1 ISO in the near future to follow the 12.04.4 hardware enablement stack.
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I would appreciate it. Can't install trisquel at the moment because my ethernet won't work.
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Yeah, but how can he download the latest kernel if he cannot get online? If a newer kernel was installed by default on a newer ISO, he wouldn't have this problem. Of course the alternative is to grab the Ubuntu 12.04.4 ISO with the newer stack, but the crowd here won't like you for it.
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You can try downloading the kernel, then put it on a USB memory stick or a CD.
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I am very happy this is happening. I had to stop being in Trisquel forums so frequently... I hope my donations helped someway. (In an effort to compensate my absence, I just added info to that wiki page: https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/update-linux-libre-kernel)
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WoW
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Would it be helpful if I started testing it at this point? Otherwise I am fine to stay with 6.
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What about having GNOME Shell as the default DE? I heard 3.10 was prety good.
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GNOME Shell wasn't made default because it requires hardware acceleration. That isn't available on any ATI/AMD card and some Nvidia cards. I believe it's fully free but have no idea about its stability.
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The hardware acceleration requirement was fixed by the Fedora developers some time ago. Since 3.6, I think.
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That still limits the experience to people with CPUs that are fast enough to instead do the heavy lifting in software on the main CPU in real-time.
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Which script in /usr/share/debootstrap/scripts/ should I use? ( sudo debootstrap belenos /mnt http://archive.trisquel.info/trisquel/ won't work, what should *belenos* be replaced with?)
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Which script in /usr/share/debootstrap/scripts/ should I use? ( sudo debootstrap belenos /mnt http://archive.trisquel.info/trisquel/ won't work, what should *belenos* be replaced with?)
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Neevrmind, I just had to create a symlink to /usr/share/debootstrap/scripts/trisquel named /usr/share/debootstrap/scripts/belenos.
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How big is that problem, though, really? If a person with such a weak CPU doesn't need accessibility features, they can just use Trisquel Mini. You don't need to make the main system lightweight just because there still exist computers that need a lightweight system. My previous laptop, which was built in 2007, is a budget laptop with a single-core Celeron CPU, and I know that it was able to run the "2D" version of Unity just fine. Do we really need to worry so much about computers that are older than 8 years old?
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Up until last week, I was running Trisquel/Ubuntu on an older 32-bit AMD Athlon XP processor and did not have issues with the Saucy PAE kernel. Very old processor. I emailed Ruben about the old kernel in the 6.01 release and he said didn't want to force PAE on users of the 32-bit release. I could understand Mini doing this, but not the 64-bit ISOs. Seems sloppy. Last week I completely built a new PC with an 8-core AMD CPU and an Nvidia card that ran libre firmware. Installing Trisquel 6 with the old kernel was not an option, so I went with Ubuntu 14.04. I will probably run the trisquelize script when 7 comes out or install 7 from scratch when it comes out, but with 6.01 not implementing the Saucy stack by default, it wasn't reassuring. I could also run the netinstall and do the Saucy stack off the bat and bring in Elementary OS desktop from the PPA, but then I got used to the updated packages and libraries. Oh and jxself needs to get the Trusty kernel into the repos, respin the ISO as 6.02 with the kernel as default, and hopefully the xorg stack will be there too. It will be a huge apology for the 6.01 release.
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Debootstrap is a program used to make an initial bootable system in a directory. It uses deb repositories to do this. When making a system, you use a Debootstrap script to specify what system want to make. Several scripts are provided in the Debootstrap package. You can even make a bootable system for architectures different from your system's. You can use Debootstrap to make a bootable Trisquel 7 partition, using your Trisquel 6 installation.
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Yes, I use it often for chrooting.
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Run the following: sudo ln -s /usr/share/debootstrap/scripts/trisquel /usr/share/debootstrap/scripts/belenos Then run debootstrap: sudo debootstrap belenos some-dir http://archive.trisquel.info/trisquel/
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Comments on Trisquel 7: Most of the needed things work! (OK, I took GNOME from the staging PPA). Problems that I've noticed so far: - No Abrowser (took it from Toutatis' repo) - No GRUB (I think one should also be able to take it from Toutatis' repo but I've got an installation of Toutatis (with KDE) on another partition that handles that so I didn't bother to try) -stability-wise, though, it seems to work
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Actually there is 1 problem: GNOME Shell (well, the 3.12 staging version from the PPA, actually) doesn't seem to save extensions over reboots, so you probably wouldn't want its PPA if you're a bit dependant on the extensions. Another note for those --no-install-recommends lovers is that unlike most other desktop shells, the "gnome-shell" package literally only installs the shell - the /usr/share/xsessions file, for example, is in another package (which I think is gnome-session).
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Screenshots: http://imgur.com/a/LE8yW Pitivi 0.93 is in the repository ;-D
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HI guys, is anybody having Synaptic running slowly in Belenos? It seems to often hang (though never quite crash unless I force-exit it). neither apt-xapian-index nor running it with sudo instead of gksudo (2 of the suggested solutions to other users who seem to have experienced the slowness as well) seems to be the cause of it. And I didn't get any errors when running it from the terminal.
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This is great news. I look forward to giving it a try.
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Question, will html 5 support fully enabled, now the most sites uses Adobe Flash Player and a lot of sites i can't play the movies on it because no flash player is available. Yes GNU is free and should be always free but missing plugins is an problem now i have downloaded flash player and copied it to abrowser plugin folder and no security updates for flash by the updater. So will in Trisquel 7 html 5 fully working so you don't need flash player from adobe.
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smit.marco: > Question, will html 5 support fully enabled, now the most sites uses > Adobe Flash Player and a lot of sites i can't play the movies on it > because no flash player is available. HTML5 has been enabled in Abrowser for some time. Unfortunately many websites don't support HTML5. Perhaps in other cases they are reverting to Flash due to lack of support for certain codecs (e.g. H.264) but I don't know that for sure. > Yes GNU is free and should be always free but missing plugins is an > problem now i have downloaded flash player and copied it to abrowser > plugin folder and no security updates for flash by the updater. > > So will in Trisquel 7 html 5 fully working so you don't need flash > player from adobe. Trisquel has Gnash by default, which is the fully free Flash player. However, Gnash has limited support for SWF files and is barely maintained, which is why producing a fully free replacement for Adobe Flash is a high priority project: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns/priority-projects/priority-projects/highpriorityprojects#Gnash Andrew.
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Be a part of the solution, write emails explaining the situation to the problematic web sites. The faster flash dies the better it is for everybody.
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What is 'the most'? Youtube (the large video website) works with HTML5 (webM and MP4), Vimeo, Dailymotion, Huffington Post, The Guardian... The most of websites in Brazil works without Flash and I can see this around the world too.
