Re: Re: [TruthTalk] Truth or the Opinions of Men
Hi David, Luther was singing in Church before Calvin and his Geneva experiment. In fact there was a big controversy over whether or not he brough bar room tunes into the church putting different tunes to them. I don't personally know any song introduced by Calvin but Ilove "A Mighty Fortress Is My God" judyt On Wed, 1 Mar 2006 15:11:36 -0500 "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Judy wrote: ... the Psalms are worship songs - and these were a reality long before Calvin. I assume by your comment here that you think Calvin did a GOOD THING by bringing them into a church which lacked such. Am I right in my assumption here? Did Calvin do something good in your eyes? David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?
You are far too sophisticated for this old boy from Canada, Kevin. Believers (DM seems to prefer this word over 'Christians'. I honestly think that if you're one of 'em then, it doesn't really matter what you call 'em.)are capable of doing some bad stuff. Some of that 'bad stuff' is really bad stuff. For example: Some of those in Rwanda who perpetrated the genocide were believers. There are other examples but, I'll leave it there. 'NEW WORLD ORDER'??? You're not one of those conspiracy theory types are you? - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 01, 2006 20:21 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk? Lance wrote: Believers in all religions are equal opportunity 'throat slitters' In onelittle statement you accomplish: 1)Your affinity with murderous religious thugs (since you are a member of the set "ALL RELIGIONS") 2)The inability of true believers to understand Jesus words Jhn 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence. 3) make the victims of the drownings, hangings, burnings, the sworddeserving of such treatment and as morally wrong as thereligious murderers (RC Reformed RC's) (surely in your eyes being a part of "all religions" they would do the same. In spite of the historical facts that some do not have BLOOD on their hands!) Jhn 16:2 They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service. The OLD WORLD ORDER is the same as the NEW WORLD ORDER The names have been changed to protect the guilty. Yahoo! MailBring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze.
[TruthTalk] Listen to the song (War) watch the film 'Lord of War' then,........
Ask yourself the question 'What are believers/christians/followers of Christ capable of? You've got problems enough inside the box (USA) but, when you think outside the box (exporting your own problems around the globe) well...I leave it to the honest among you..
Re: Re: [TruthTalk] Truth or the Opinions of Men
Sorry ... I meant different words ... it's early On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 05:47:34 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi David, Luther was singing in Church before Calvin and his Geneva experiment. In fact there was a big controversy over whether or not he brough bar room tunes into the church putting different tunes to them. I don't personally know any song introduced by Calvin but Ilove "A Mighty Fortress Is My God" judyt On Wed, 1 Mar 2006 15:11:36 -0500 "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Judy wrote: ... the Psalms are worship songs - and these were a reality long before Calvin. I assume by your comment here that you think Calvin did a GOOD THING by bringing them into a church which lacked such. Am I right in my assumption here? Did Calvin do something good in your eyes? David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?
Lance, you have a different definition of "believer" or Christian than that of Christ Apparently you don't really believe that "YOU WILL KNOW them by their fruit" (Matt 12:33) or that murderers along with certain others "DO NOT inherit the Kingdom" (1 Cor 6:9) Whose gospel DO you believe??? On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 05:50:26 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You are far too sophisticated for this old boy from Canada, Kevin. Believers (DM seems to prefer this word over 'Christians'. I honestly think that if you're one of 'em then, it doesn't really matter what you call 'em.)are capable of doing some bad stuff. Some of that 'bad stuff' is really bad stuff. For example: Some of those in Rwanda who perpetrated the genocide were believers. There are other examples but, I'll leave it there. 'NEW WORLD ORDER'??? You're not one of those conspiracy theory types are you? - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 01, 2006 20:21 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk? Lance wrote: Believers in all religions are equal opportunity 'throat slitters' In onelittle statement you accomplish: 1)Your affinity with murderous religious thugs (since you are a member of the set "ALL RELIGIONS") 2)The inability of true believers to understand Jesus words Jhn 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence. 3) make the victims of the drownings, hangings, burnings, the sworddeserving of such treatment and as morally wrong as thereligious murderers (RC Reformed RC's) (surely in your eyes being a part of "all religions" they would do the same. In spite of the historical facts that some do not have BLOOD on their hands!) Jhn 16:2 They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service. The OLD WORLD ORDER is the same as the NEW WORLD ORDER The names have been changed to protect the guilty. Yahoo! MailBring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze.
Re: [TruthTalk] Listen to the song (War) watch the film 'Lord of War' then,........
That's easy Love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self contol. On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 06:02:01 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ask yourself the question 'What are believers/christians/followers of Christ capable of? You've got problems enough inside the box (USA) but, when you think outside the box (exporting your own problems around the globe) well...I leave it to the honest among you..
Re: [TruthTalk] Listen to the song (War) watch the film 'Lord of War' then,........
YOU?Are you calling it a CHRISTIAN war? And I am responsible? And I am in agreement?YOU? How broad is your brush?Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ask yourself the question 'What are believers/christians/followers of Christ capable of? You've got problems enough inside the box (USA) but, when you think outside the box (exporting your own problems around the globe) well...I leave it to the honest among you.. Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze.
Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?
And he needs a history lesson!Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lance, you have a different definition of "believer" or Christian than that of Christ Apparently you don't really believe that "YOU WILL KNOW them by their fruit" (Matt 12:33) or that murderers along with certain others "DO NOT inherit the Kingdom" (1 Cor 6:9) Whose gospel DO you believe??? On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 05:50:26 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:You are far too sophisticated for this old boy from Canada, Kevin. Believers (DM seems to prefer this word over 'Christians'. I honestly think that if you're one of 'em then, it doesn't really matter what you call 'em.)are capable of doing some bad stuff. Some of that 'bad stuff' is really bad stuff. For example: Some of those in Rwanda who perpetrated the genocide were believers. There are other examples but, I'll leave it there.'NEW WORLD ORDER'??? You're not one of those conspiracy theory types are you?- Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 01, 2006 20:21 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?Lance wrote: Believers in all religions are equal opportunity 'throat slitters'In onelittle statement you accomplish: 1)Your affinity with murderous religious thugs (since you are a member of the set "ALL RELIGIONS") 2)The inability of true believers to understand Jesus words Jhn 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence. 3) make the victims of the drownings, hangings, burnings, the sworddeserving of such treatment and as morally wrong as thereligious murderers (RC Reformed RC's) (surely in your eyes being a part of "all religions" they would do the same. In spite of the historical facts that some do not have BLOOD on their hands!) Jhn 16:2 They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service. The OLD WORLD ORDER is the same as the NEW WORLD ORDER The names have been changed to protect the guilty. Yahoo! MailBring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments.
Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?
You will get your day in court someday. Unfortunately you will appear before those that you unjustly accuse, before the Judge of all the earth, in the court of NO APPEALS. There is a long line of those who remained faithful unto blood. Would they slit throats given the chance, as you accuse?Rev 2:13 I know thy works, and where thou dwellest, [even] where Satan's seat [is]: and thou holdest fast my name, and hast not denied my faith, even in those days wherein Antipas [was] my faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwelleth. Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are far too sophisticated for this old boy from Canada, Kevin. Believers (DM seems to prefer this word over 'Christians'. I honestly think that if you're one of 'em then, it doesn't really matter what you call 'em.)are capable of doing some bad stuff. Some of that 'bad stuff' is really bad stuff. For example: Some of those in Rwanda who perpetrated the genocide were believers. There are other examples but, I'll leave it there.'NEW WORLD ORDER'??? You're not one of those conspiracy theory types are you?- Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 01, 2006 20:21 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?Lance wrote: Believers in all religions are equal opportunity 'throat slitters'In onelittle statement you accomplish: 1)Your affinity with murderous religious thugs (since you are a member of the set "ALL RELIGIONS") 2)The inability of true believers to understand Jesus words Jhn 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence. 3) make the victims of the drownings, hangings, burnings, the sworddeserving of such treatment and as morally wrong as thereligious murderers (RC Reformed RC's) (surely in your eyes being a part of "all religions" they would do the same. In spite of the historical facts that some do not have BLOOD on their hands!) Jhn 16:2 They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service. The OLD WORLD ORDER is the same as the NEW WORLD ORDER The names have been changed to protect the guilty. Yahoo! MailBring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [TruthTalk] Listen to the song (War) watch the film 'Lord of War' then,........
ME? I'm calling it WRONG! There are those who took umbrage over hearing ill spoken of re: your 'BELIEVING PRESIDENT' and his decision to invade sovereign nations." I just sent a link to a new doc that I watched last evening. Have a look. From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 02, 2006 07:24 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Listen to the song (War) watch the film 'Lord of War' then, YOU? Are you calling it a CHRISTIAN war? And I am responsible? And I am in agreement? YOU? How broad is your brush?Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ask yourself the question 'What are believers/christians/followers of Christ capable of? You've got problems enough inside the box (USA) but, when you think outside the box (exporting your own problems around the globe) well...I leave it to the honest among you.. Yahoo! MailBring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze.
Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?
I do understand what you're referring to but, it is not an answer. That's OK though as it's what I've come to expect from TT. - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 02, 2006 07:34 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk? You will get your day in court someday. Unfortunately you will appear before those that you unjustly accuse, before the Judge of all the earth, in the court of NO APPEALS. There is a long line of those who remained faithful unto blood. Would they slit throats given the chance, as you accuse? Rev 2:13 I know thy works, and where thou dwellest, [even] where Satan's seat [is]: and thou holdest fast my name, and hast not denied my faith, even in those days wherein Antipas [was] my faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwelleth. Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are far too sophisticated for this old boy from Canada, Kevin. Believers (DM seems to prefer this word over 'Christians'. I honestly think that if you're one of 'em then, it doesn't really matter what you call 'em.)are capable of doing some bad stuff. Some of that 'bad stuff' is really bad stuff. For example: Some of those in Rwanda who perpetrated the genocide were believers. There are other examples but, I'll leave it there. 'NEW WORLD ORDER'??? You're not one of those conspiracy theory types are you? - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 01, 2006 20:21 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk? Lance wrote: Believers in all religions are equal opportunity 'throat slitters' In onelittle statement you accomplish: 1)Your affinity with murderous religious thugs (since you are a member of the set "ALL RELIGIONS") 2)The inability of true believers to understand Jesus words Jhn 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence. 3) make the victims of the drownings, hangings, burnings, the sworddeserving of such treatment and as morally wrong as thereligious murderers (RC Reformed RC's) (surely in your eyes being a part of "all religions" they would do the same. In spite of the historical facts that some do not have BLOOD on their hands!) Jhn 16:2 They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service. The OLD WORLD ORDER is the same as the NEW WORLD ORDER The names have been changed to protect the guilty. Yahoo! MailBring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: 002-0651739-1599224.htm
OH LOOK Laura is a Reformed Catholic! Being religious or SPIRITual does not make one a Christian.Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:If George is a "Christian" I am a muffin Perhaps he is a Reformed Catholic.Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze.
Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: 002-0651739-1599224.htm
In George Laura you have two bona fide believers/christians. It ought to go without saying but, I'll say it anyway: God alone KNOWS whether this is so.He certainly stands shoulder to shoulder with Jerry, Pat Billy. Would you not concur? - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 02, 2006 07:42 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: 002-0651739-1599224.htm OH LOOK Laura is a Reformed Catholic! Being religious or SPIRITual does not make one a Christian. Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If George is a "Christian" I am a muffin Perhaps he is a Reformed Catholic.Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yahoo! MailBring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze.
Re: [TruthTalk] Listen to the song (War) watch the film 'Lord of War' then,........
George is as much Christian as he is ConservativeAre you calling it a Christian war?Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ME? I'm calling it WRONG! There are those who took umbrage over hearing ill spoken of re: your 'BELIEVING PRESIDENT' and his decision to invade sovereign nations." I just sent a link to a new doc that I watched last evening. Have a look.From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 02, 2006 07:24 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Listen to the song (War) watch the film 'Lord of War' then,YOU?Are you calling it a CHRISTIAN war? And I am responsible? And I am in agreement?YOU? How broad is your brush?Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ask yourself the question 'What are believers/christians/followers of Christ capable of? You've got problems enough inside the box (USA) but, when you think outside the box (exporting your own problems around the globe) well...I leave it to the honest among you.. Yahoo! MailBring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze.
Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: 002-0651739-1599224.htm
A picture is worth a thousand words! If you define believer/christian as these Reformed CATHOLICS. Then it follows. Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In George Laura you have two bona fide believers/christians. It ought to go without saying but, I'll say it anyway: God alone KNOWS whether this is so.He certainly stands shoulder to shoulder with Jerry, Pat Billy. Would you not concur? - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 02, 2006 07:42 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: 002-0651739-1599224.htmOH LOOK Laura is a Reformed Catholic! Being religious or SPIRITual does not make one a Christian.Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:If George is a "Christian" I am a muffin Perhaps he is a Reformed Catholic.Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yahoo! MailBring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: 002-0651739-1599224.htm
Are you saying, on God's behalf, that Reformed CATHOLICS, whatever they are, cannot be believing christians? - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 02, 2006 07:49 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: 002-0651739-1599224.htm A picture is worth a thousand words! If you define believer/christian as these Reformed CATHOLICS. Then it follows. Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In George Laura you have two bona fide believers/christians. It ought to go without saying but, I'll say it anyway: God alone KNOWS whether this is so.He certainly stands shoulder to shoulder with Jerry, Pat Billy. Would you not concur? - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 02, 2006 07:42 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: 002-0651739-1599224.htm OH LOOK Laura is a Reformed Catholic! Being religious or SPIRITual does not make one a Christian. Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If George is a "Christian" I am a muffin Perhaps he is a Reformed Catholic.Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yahoo! MailBring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [TruthTalk] Listen to the song (War) watch the film 'Lord of War' then,........
I already told you what I call it. George used the word 'crusade'. George used the _expression_ ' good vs evil'. George said that good would triumph over evil (USA over the Taliban terrorists). George is a believing christian. I leave it to you, the citizens, to figure the rest out. - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 02, 2006 07:47 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Listen to the song (War) watch the film 'Lord of War' then, George is as much Christian as he is Conservative Are you calling it a Christian war?Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ME? I'm calling it WRONG! There are those who took umbrage over hearing ill spoken of re: your 'BELIEVING PRESIDENT' and his decision to invade sovereign nations." I just sent a link to a new doc that I watched last evening. Have a look. From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 02, 2006 07:24 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Listen to the song (War) watch the film 'Lord of War' then, YOU? Are you calling it a CHRISTIAN war? And I am responsible? And I am in agreement? YOU? How broad is your brush?Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ask yourself the question 'What are believers/christians/followers of Christ capable of? You've got problems enough inside the box (USA) but, when you think outside the box (exporting your own problems around the globe) well...I leave it to the honest among you.. Yahoo! MailBring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. Yahoo! MailBring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze.
Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?
Outright pagans under the tutelage of the "accuser" same as some who profess Christ but listen to the same ol lies from the father of them. One should be able to discern between good and evil before going public with it. On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 07:40:22 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: SOMEONE needs a history lesson! It'd appear that outright pagans understand the behaviour of 'believers/christians' better than 'believers/christians' do. From: Kevin Deegan And he needs a history lesson!Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lance, you have a different definition of "believer" or Christian than that of Christ Apparently you don't really believe that "YOU WILL KNOW them by their fruit" (Matt 12:33) or that murderers along with certain others "DO NOT inherit the Kingdom" (1 Cor 6:9) Whose gospel DO you believe??? On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 05:50:26 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You are far too sophisticated for this old boy from Canada, Kevin. Believers (DM seems to prefer this word over 'Christians'. I honestly think that if you're one of 'em then, it doesn't really matter what you call 'em.)are capable of doing some bad stuff. Some of that 'bad stuff' is really bad stuff. For example: Some of those in Rwanda who perpetrated the genocide were believers. There are other examples but, I'll leave it there. 'NEW WORLD ORDER'??? You're not one of those conspiracy theory types are you? - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 01, 2006 20:21 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk? Lance wrote: Believers in all religions are equal opportunity 'throat slitters' In onelittle statement you accomplish: 1)Your affinity with murderous religious thugs (since you are a member of the set "ALL RELIGIONS") 2)The inability of true believers to understand Jesus words Jhn 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence. 3) make the victims of the drownings, hangings, burnings, the sworddeserving of such treatment and as morally wrong as thereligious murderers (RC Reformed RC's) (surely in your eyes being a part of "all religions" they would do the same. In spite of the historical facts that some do not have BLOOD on their hands!) Jhn 16:2 They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service. The OLD WORLD ORDER is the same as the NEW WORLD ORDER The names have been changed to protect the guilty. Yahoo! MailBring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. Yahoo! MailUse Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments.
Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: 002-0651739-1599224.htm
Reformed Catholics are also ChameleonsTour of the Dome of the Rock MOSQUEhttp://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/006290.php U.S. officials said Bush had requested activities to honor Israel's three religions during her Israel visit. She will tour the Western Wall to pay respects to Judaism, visit a church in Jericho to honor Christianity, and ascend the Temple Mount to express good will toward Islam, said an official. George worships "god" at Shinto Temple http://www.worthynews.com/news-features-3/bush-shinto-temple.html It was an act of idolatry, says Kiyomasa Akashi, with Logos Ministries in Tokyo. Even worse, it was an official, public idol worship, Akashi says. He did bow before the shrine where the Meiji Emperor is enshrined as a god.Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:A picture is worth a thousand words! If you define believer/christian as these Reformed CATHOLICS. Then it follows. Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In George Laura you have two bona fide believers/christians. It ought to go without saying but, I'll say it anyway: God alone KNOWS whether this is so.He certainly stands shoulder to shoulder with Jerry, Pat Billy. Would you not concur? - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 02, 2006 07:42 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: 002-0651739-1599224.htmOH LOOK Laura is a Reformed Catholic! Being religious or SPIRITual does not make one a Christian.Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:If George is a "Christian" I am a muffin Perhaps he is a Reformed Catholic.Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yahoo! MailBring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze.
Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: 002-0651739-1599224.htm
Is Laura Bush a (1) believing christian (2) chameleon (3) fill in the blank I ask again, are you speaking for God on this?. - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 02, 2006 08:13 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: 002-0651739-1599224.htm Reformed Catholics are also Chameleons Tour of the Dome of the Rock MOSQUE http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/006290.php U.S. officials said Bush had requested activities to honor Israel's three religions during her Israel visit. She will tour the Western Wall to pay respects to Judaism, visit a church in Jericho to honor Christianity, and ascend the Temple Mount to express good will toward Islam, said an official. George worships "god" at Shinto Temple http://www.worthynews.com/news-features-3/bush-shinto-temple.html It was an act of idolatry, says Kiyomasa Akashi, with Logos Ministries in Tokyo. Even worse, it was an official, public idol worship, Akashi says. He did bow before the shrine where the Meiji Emperor is enshrined as a god.Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A picture is worth a thousand words! If you define believer/christian as these Reformed CATHOLICS. Then it follows. Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In George Laura you have two bona fide believers/christians. It ought to go without saying but, I'll say it anyway: God alone KNOWS whether this is so.He certainly stands shoulder to shoulder with Jerry, Pat Billy. Would you not concur? - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 02, 2006 07:42 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: 002-0651739-1599224.htm OH LOOK Laura is a Reformed Catholic! Being religious or SPIRITual does not make one a Christian. Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If George is a "Christian" I am a muffin Perhaps he is a Reformed Catholic.Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yahoo! MailBring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! MailBring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze.
Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: 002-0651739-1599224.htm
Signing the Book of Worship!http://www.cephasministry.com/nwo_bush_goes_to_shinto_worship.html http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/bushshintoshrine.htmlKevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Reformed Catholics are also ChameleonsTour of the Dome of the Rock MOSQUEhttp://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/006290.php U.S. officials said Bush had requested activities to honor Israel's three religions during her Israel visit. She will tour the Western Wall to pay respects to Judaism, visit a church in Jericho to honor Christianity, and ascend the Temple Mount to express good will toward Islam, said an official. George worships "god" at Shinto Temple http://www.worthynews.com/news-features-3/bush-shinto-temple.html It was an act of idolatry, says Kiyomasa Akashi, with Logos Ministries in Tokyo. Even worse, it was an official, public idol worship, Akashi says. He did bow before the shrine where the Meiji Emperor is enshrined as a god.Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:A picture is worth a thousand words! If you define believer/christian as these Reformed CATHOLICS. Then it follows. Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In George Laura you have two bona fide believers/christians. It ought to go without saying but, I'll say it anyway: God alone KNOWS whether this is so.He certainly stands shoulder to shoulder with Jerry, Pat Billy. Would you not concur? - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 02, 2006 07:42 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: 002-0651739-1599224.htmOH LOOK Laura is a Reformed Catholic! Being religious or SPIRITual does not make one a Christian.Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:If George is a "Christian" I am a muffin Perhaps he is a Reformed Catholic.Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yahoo! MailBring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! MailBring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze.
Re: [TruthTalk] Listen to the song (War) watch the film 'Lord of War' then,........
So how much did the TOOTH FAIRY leave you?Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I already told you what I call it. George used the word 'crusade'. George used the _expression_ ' good vs evil'. George said that good would triumph over evil (USA over the Taliban terrorists). George is a believing christian. I leave it to you, the citizens, to figure the rest out.- Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 02, 2006 07:47 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Listen to the song (War) watch the film 'Lord of War' then,George is as much Christian as he is ConservativeAre you calling it a Christian war?Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ME? I'm calling it WRONG! There are those who took umbrage over hearing ill spoken of re: your 'BELIEVING PRESIDENT' and his decision to invade sovereign nations." I just sent a link to a new doc that I watched last evening. Have a look.From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 02, 2006 07:24 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Listen to the song (War) watch the film 'Lord of War' then,YOU?Are you calling it a CHRISTIAN war? And I am responsible? And I am in agreement?YOU? How broad is your brush?Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ask yourself the question 'What are believers/christians/followers of Christ capable of? You've got problems enough inside the box (USA) but, when you think outside the box (exporting your own problems around the globe) well...I leave it to the honest among you.. Yahoo! MailBring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. Yahoo! MailBring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze.
[TruthTalk] The level at which the dialogue functions is quite overwhelming - What is one to do?
Where's my thesauras of reductionists epithets?
Re: [TruthTalk] Listen to the song (War) watch the film 'Lord of War' then,........
Lance, there's a difference between the titles people take on for themselves and what they really do or believe. There are a ton of people who call themselves Christians, but they do not really believe and submit to Christ.This is the same thing James was talking about when he spoke of dead faith. If you tell a cold man to be warm without making any effort to help him be warm, you are not being sincere in your words. People do it all the time with titles.We can discuss whether or not believers have done wrongly in history, but do you first see why we make this distinction?Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ask yourself the question 'What are believers/christians/followers of Christ capable of? You've got problems enough inside the box (USA) but, when you think outside the box (exporting your own problems around the globe) well...I leave it to the honest among you.. Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze.
Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?
Lance wrote: As I see events David, you were 'attacked' by neither A or I. As I see it you invaded while uninvited. Is this a stick-your-head-in-the-sand and ignore the facts kind of response, or is this deliberate misinformation and propaganda? Afghanistan was harboring Osama bin Laden and his Al Qaeda organization since 1996. They were involved in numerous attacks, such as the Tanzania and Kenya U.S. Embassy bombings, the USS Cole bombing, and the World Trade Center bombing. There are other planned attacks that were thrwarted. When Bush tried to talk to the Afghan gov't, they refused to talk to him directly, claiming that it would be an insult to Islam for them to talk with a non-Muslim political leader. We gave them a clear ultimatum and way out of avoiding war. They refused to cooperate. Lance wrote: The UN opposed your action. Are you crazy? The UN Security Council issued a resolution demanding that they close their terrorist camps and hand over Osama bin Laden. We enforced their resolution. Where do you get the notion that the UN OPPOSED our action? David Miller -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: 002-0651739-1599224.htm
are you speaking for God on this?. Are you asking for Him?Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is Laura Bush a (1) believing christian (2) chameleon (3) fill in the blank I ask again, are you speaking for God on this?. - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 02, 2006 08:13 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: 002-0651739-1599224.htmReformed Catholics are also ChameleonsTour of the Dome of the Rock MOSQUEhttp://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/006290.php U.S. officials said Bush had requested activities to honor Israel's three religions during her Israel visit. She will tour the Western Wall to pay respects to Judaism, visit a church in Jericho to honor Christianity, and ascend the Temple Mount to express good will toward Islam, said an official. George worships "god" at Shinto Temple http://www.worthynews.com/news-features-3/bush-shinto-temple.html It was an act of idolatry, says Kiyomasa Akashi, with Logos Ministries in Tokyo. Even worse, it was an official, public idol worship, Akashi says. He did bow before the shrine where the Meiji Emperor is enshrined as a god.Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:A picture is worth a thousand words! If you define believer/christian as these Reformed CATHOLICS. Then it follows. Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In George Laura you have two bona fide believers/christians. It ought to go without saying but, I'll say it anyway: God alone KNOWS whether this is so.He certainly stands shoulder to shoulder with Jerry, Pat Billy. Would you not concur? - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 02, 2006 07:42 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: 002-0651739-1599224.htmOH LOOK Laura is a Reformed Catholic! Being religious or SPIRITual does not make one a Christian.Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:If George is a "Christian" I am a muffin Perhaps he is a Reformed Catholic.Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yahoo! MailBring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! MailBring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments.
Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?
Wasn't it some kind of Rumor circulating everywhere about something called, Weapons of Mass Destruction?Wonder where the rumor came from? 2Ki 19:7 Behold, I will send a blast upon him, and he shall hear a rumour, and shall return to his own land; and I will cause him to fall by the sword in his own land. Jer 51:46 And lest your heart faint, and ye fear for the rumour that shall be heard in the land; a rumour shall both come [one] year, and after that in [another] year [shall come] a rumour, and violence in the land, ruler against ruler. David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lance wrote: As I see events David, you were 'attacked' by neither A or I. As I see it you invaded while uninvited.Is this a stick-your-head-in-the-sand and ignore the facts kind of response, or is this deliberate misinformation and propaganda? Afghanistan was harboring Osama bin Laden and his Al Qaeda organization since 1996. They were involved in numerous attacks, such as the Tanzania and Kenya U.S. Embassy bombings, the USS Cole bombing, and the World Trade Center bombing. There are other planned attacks that were thrwarted. When Bush tried to talk to the Afghan gov't, they refused to talk to him directly, claiming that it would be an insult to Islam for them to talk with a non-Muslim political leader. We gave them a clear ultimatum and way out of avoiding war. They refused to cooperate.Lance wrote: The UN opposed your action.Are you crazy? The UN Security Council issued a resolution demanding that they close their terrorist camps and hand over Osama bin Laden. We enforced their resolution. Where do you get the notion that the UN OPPOSED our action?David Miller --"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.orgIf you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments.
Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: 002-0651739-1599224.htm
If you were a preacher would you put on a dress like the Pope when you visit Rome? If you were a Christian would you put on a catholic viel like Laura below? Would you put on a Muslim headdress when visiting the MUSLIM Mosque, like Laura?Never trust a man that dresses like MOMMA and calls himself Father! Mat 23:9 And call no [man] your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In George Laura you have two bona fide believers/christians. It ought to go without saying but, I'll say it anyway: God alone KNOWS whether this is so.He certainly stands shoulder to shoulder with Jerry, Pat Billy. Would you not concur? - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 02, 2006 07:42 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: 002-0651739-1599224.htmOH LOOK Laura is a Reformed Catholic! Being religious or SPIRITual does not make one a Christian.Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:If George is a "Christian" I am a muffin Perhaps he is a Reformed Catholic.Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yahoo! MailBring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?
Some of those in Rwanda who perpetrated the genocide were believers.WRONG AGAIN Stop slurring Christians by trying to lump them in with Catholic KILLERS. You play real loose with Facts. Are Facts irrelevant to you?Maybe you need a program so you can tell apart the players? http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A53018-2002Sep22.html Rwandan nuns were convicted of murder for their roles in the massacre of 7,000 Tutsis who sought protection at a Benedictine convent.I think that means it was those loving catholics again!Same old RC Church as it ever was: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4615171 an international court is trying several Catholic priests for their alleged role in the massacres, in which Hutus murdered 800,000 minority Tutsis and moderate HutusCatholic World News: http://www.cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=39498Kigali, Sep. 08, 2005 (CWNews.com) - Authorities in Rwanda have arrested a Belgian Catholic priest on charges related to the genocidal massacres of 1994. http://www.globalpolicy.org/intljustice/tribunals/rwanda/2004/0920priest.htm Father Seromba's trial at the International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda will revive heated debate about the role of the Catholic Church during the dark days of 1994. The Catholic hierarchy in Rwanda had close ties to extremist politicians in the run up to the genocide and some priests like Father Seromba are accused of actively assisting the Hutu militias. In 2001, two nuns were found guilty of taking part in the genocide in a Belgian court. The Vatican accepts there are individuals in the church who committed crimes, but controversially, it says the Church as an institution cannot be held to blame. At the time of the genocide, some 60% of Rwandans were Catholic but some have since converted to Islam, saying the Church failed them in 1994. http://www.pambazuka.org/en/category/features/21165Rwanda was the most Christianized country in Africa and the Roman Catholics were far and away the largest Christian denomination. Catholicism was virtually the official state religion. Catholic officials had enormous influence at both the elite and the grassroots level, which they consistently failed to use to protest against the governments overtly racist policies and practices. Indeed, the Church gave the government moral authority. Once the genocide began, Catholic leaders in the main refused to condemn the government, never used the word genocide, and many individual priests and nuns actually aided the genocidaires. This is just another show of what happens when the Catholics the Government are in BED TOG$TH$R AbSOLUTE ANNIHILATION whether it was then or now. Call it genocide if you want I call it the TRUE BELIEVER doing service to their 'god' Catholic and Reformed Catholic are just as TOLERANT as the MuslimGENOCIDE IS Roman Catholicism! "And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus..." See the HIGHLITES of their HISTORY belowArgument 2d. Experience shows that terror is not effective. I reply, EXPERIENCE PROVES THE CONTRARYFOR THE DONATISTS, MANICHEANS, AND ALBIGENSES WERE ROUTED, AND ANNIHILATED BY ARMS. -- Robert Bellarmine, Disputationes de Controversiis, Tom. ii, Lib. III, cap. XXII, "Objections Answered," 1682 edition. http://www.cs.unc.edu/~plaisted/estimates.doc St. Bartholomew's Day Massacre of 24 August 17 September 1572, Catholics killed many Huguenots in Paris other towns: estimated total death toll of 70,000 Roman Catholic Ustaa 1941 to 1943, the regime slaughtered at least (estimates range up to 1 million) 250,000 Serb residents of Croatia and Bosnia, and more than 20,000 Jews. 1941-JUL-22, Dr. Mile Budak, the Ustaa Minister of Education and Cults, said: "The movement of the Ustashi is based on religion. For minorities-Serbs, Jews and Gypsies, we have three million bullets. We shall kill one part of the Serbs. We shall transport another, and the rest of them will be forced to embrace the Roman Catholic religion. Thus, our new Croatia will get rid of all Serbs in our midst in order to become one hundred percent Catholic within ten years." Inquisition: It has been estimated by careful and reputed historians of the Catholic Inquisition that 50 million people were slaughtered for the crime of "heresy" by Roman persecutors between the A.D. 606 and the middle of the 19th century. By their own (RC) count 125,000 trials of suspected heretics in Spain alone, in Portugal, 5.7 percent of the more than 13,000 people tried before church tribunals in the 16th and early 17th century were condemned to death. Clarks Martyrology counts the number of Waldensian martyrs during the first half of the 13th century in France alone at two million. From A.D. 1160-1560 the Waldensians that dwelt in the Italian Alps were visited with 36 different fierce persecutions that spared neither age nor sex (Thomas Armitage,
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paradiseapure fantasy? no onesellin'weapons there, eh? On Wed, 1 Mar 2006 20:52:23 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: || On Wed, 1 Mar 2006 07:05:24 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Imagine there was no fall ... Pure fantasy ||
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oh, please, M'am, let us read the only true definition ofparadise now On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 19:36:07 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: paradiseapure fantasy? no onesellin'weapons there, eh? On Wed, 1 Mar 2006 20:52:23 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: || On Wed, 1 Mar 2006 07:05:24 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Imagine there was no fall ... Pure fantasy ||
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..like, where is it? On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 20:24:00 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: oh, please, M'am, let us read the only true definition ofparadise now On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 19:36:07 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: paradiseapure fantasy? no onesellin'weapons there, eh? On Wed, 1 Mar 2006 20:52:23 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: || On Wed, 1 Mar 2006 07:05:24 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Imagine there was no fall ... Pure fantasy ||
Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?
interesting, someoneimaginesthat paradise is nowhere On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 14:28:13 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wasn't it some kind of Rumor circulating everywhere about something called, Weapons of Mass Destruction? ||
Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?
..too much Sgt. Pepper ('s LHB),
eh?
On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 21:17:00 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
interesting,
someoneimaginesthat paradise is nowhere
On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 14:28:13 -0800 (PST) Kevin
Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Wasn't it some kind of Rumor circulating
everywhere about something called, Weapons
of Mass Destruction?
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[TruthTalk] might paradise be imagined like this?
nowhere
Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?
..one could for certain say that the
writer's poetic comment *below*is certainly more lennon-esque
than dylan-esque
On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 21:22:48 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
..too much Sgt. Pepper ('s LHB),
eh?
On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 21:17:00 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
interesting,
someoneimaginesthat paradise is nowhere
On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 14:28:13 -0800 (PST) Kevin
Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
* Wasn't it some kind of Rumor
circulating everywhere about something
called, Weapons of Mass Destruction? *
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Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?
..sounds natural to(like right out
of lennon, et. al.'s)'a day in the life'
On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 21:52:52 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
..one could for certain say that the
writer's poetic comment *below*is certainly more lennon-esque
than dylan-esque
On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 21:22:48 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
..too much Sgt. Pepper ('s LHB),
eh?
On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 21:17:00 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
interesting,
someoneimaginesthat paradise is nowhere
On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 14:28:13 -0800 (PST)
Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
* Wasn't it some kind of Rumor
circulating everywhere about
something called, Weapons of Mass Destruction? *
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