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Kay wrote: Are you thinking of celebrating Sukkot? It depends upon what you mean by the word celebrating. Are you sure you meant to use this word? This week is actually meant to be a week of remembrance, with special sacrifices made by fire each day. If you are asking me if I am thinking of dwelling in booths made with branches of palms and willows, and sacrificing the 199 animals that are commanded to be sacrificed during this festival, the answer is no. The Torah teaches that this remembrance is for the Israelite born, which I am not. Note verse 42 below: Leviticus 23:39-43 (39) Also in the fifteenth day of the seventh month, when ye have gathered in the fruit of the land, ye shall keep a feast unto the LORD seven days: on the first day shall be a sabbath, and on the eighth day shall be a sabbath. (40) And ye shall take you on the first day the boughs of goodly trees, branches of palm trees, and the boughs of thick trees, and willows of the brook; and ye shall rejoice before the LORD your God seven days. (41) And ye shall keep it a feast unto the LORD seven days in the year. It shall be a statute for ever in your generations: ye shall celebrate it in the seventh month. (42) Ye shall dwell in booths seven days; ALL THAT ARE ISRAELITES BORN shall dwell in booths: (43) That your generations may know that I made the children of Israel to dwell in booths, when I brought them out of the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God. On the other hand, if you are NOT talking about Torah observance but whether I might take a camping vacation during this week in September with some Messianics, then my answer might be a little different. :-) You will have to ask again when the season gets here. I have not planned that far ahead. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
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I think the better translation would be more along the line of, Lev 23:42 "You shall dwell in booths seven days; all that are home-born in Israel shall dwell in booths;" JPS version But then this was a shadow of things to come, in our Fathers Kingdom, we will celebrate with all the sacrifices and all the pagentry and glory to God! And we are going to have a great time! Well, some of us, the rest are going to be suprized that they were wrong. But thats OK God is going to have Yeshua teach ya'll how it's done and after the shock you will have a great time also! Also, David you still DO NOT UNDERSTAND the sacrificial system of the Temple. There can be no sacrifices without the Temple Altar. It's amazing, I know 6,7 and 8 year olds that understand this, yet grown adults that are in denial of God's Covenant fail to grasp the meaning. Serve Yeshua as He served His Father and you just might begin to understand. Jeff Life makes warriors of us all.To emerge the victors, we must armourselves with the most potent of weapons.That weapon is prayer.--Rebbe Nachman of Breslov - Original Message - From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 17:42 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] [Fwd: Reggie White NFL Football Player] Kay wrote: Are you thinking of celebrating Sukkot? It depends upon what you mean by the word "celebrating." Are you sure you meant to use this word? This week is actually meant to be a week of remembrance, with special sacrifices made by fire each day. If you are asking me if I am thinking of dwelling in booths made with branches of palms and willows, and sacrificing the 199 animals that are commanded to be sacrificed during this festival, the answer is no. The Torah teaches that this remembrance is for the Israelite born, which I am not. Note verse 42 below: Leviticus 23:39-43 (39) Also in the fifteenth day of the seventh month, when ye have gathered in the fruit of the land, ye shall keep a feast unto the LORD seven days: on the first day shall be a sabbath, and on the eighth day shall be a sabbath. (40) And ye shall take you on the first day the boughs of goodly trees, branches of palm trees, and the boughs of thick trees, and willows of the brook; and ye shall rejoice before the LORD your God seven days. (41) And ye shall keep it a feast unto the LORD seven days in the year. It shall be a statute for ever in your generations: ye shall celebrate it in the seventh month. (42) Ye shall dwell in booths seven days; ALL THAT ARE ISRAELITES BORN shall dwell in booths: (43) That your generations may know that I made the children of Israel to dwell in booths, when I brought them out of the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God. On the other hand, if you are NOT talking about Torah observance but whether I might take a camping vacation during this week in September with some Messianics, then my answer might be a little different. :-) You will have to ask again when the season gets here. I have not planned that far ahead. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
[TruthTalk] [Fwd: Reggie White NFL Football Player]
Reggie White, known as an NFL legend and a fearless proclaimer of the Gospel, dies at 43 By Erin Curry - BP News CHRISTIAN EXAMINER NASHVILLE, Tenn.- He was a two-time NFL Defensive Player of the Year, was elected to the Pro Bowl a record 13 straight times, set a Super Bowl record with three sacks and retired in 2000 as the NFL's all-time leader in sacks. But Reggie White's life as a football legend and unashamed proclaimer of the Gospel - which earned him the nickname "Minister of Defense" - ended abruptly Dec. 26 at age 43. The cause of White's death was not immediately known, although he suffered from a respiratory ailment that affected his sleep, according to the Associated Press. Because of his talent on the field and his outspokenness off it, White will forever be known as one of sports' most prominent Christian athletes. "I've always believed since I was a kid that God was going to allow me to play professional football, to use it as a platform to proclaim and live out the name of Jesus," White once said on "The 700 Club" on the Christian Broadcasting Network. "And, you know, that's the most exciting part about my life because God has done things in me to change my character to benefit the Kingdom." White, who was a standout defensive end for the Philadelphia Eagles, Green Bay Packers and Carolina Panthers for 15 total years, was outspoken about his faith in Jesus Christ and the power of his Savior to change lives. In 1999, he spoke at the Southern Baptist Convention annual meeting in Atlanta, urging messengers to unite for a common goal. "Jesus prayed that we might be one in unity, as He and the Father are one," White said. "He also commanded us to love one another. One thing I see lacking in the church of Jesus Christ is that many of us don't love each other. We don't watch each other's back." He used an illustration from the football field to make his point. "If I see a black guy about to lay out our quarterback, Brett Favre, I'm going to lay him out first. It's not about color on the football field," he said at the SBC. "It's amazing to me to see that in professional sports we can have one guy in a gang sitting on the bench next to a redneck, and they learn to get along and work for the same goals. "If we could only learn the lessons that we see in many of our sports activities, we would make a better unit, because we're fighting for the same goals. But the problem is, many of us don't love each other," White said. White's wife, Sara, released a statement, reading: "Today our beloved husband, father and friend passed away. His family appreciates your thoughts and prayers as we mourn the loss of Reggie White. We want to thank you in advance for honoring our privacy." Paul Tagliabue, commissioner of the National Football League, called White a "gentle warrior" who will be remembered as one of the greatest defensive players in NFL history. "Equally as impressive as his achievements on the field was the positive impact he made off the field and the way he served as a positive influence on so many young people," Tagliabue said in a statement. Favre, who played alongside White in Green Bay, also ranked him high among the NFL greats. "I had the utmost respect for Reggie White as a player," he said. "He may have been the best player I've ever seen and certainly was the best I've ever played with or against." Harry Galbreath, a former teammate and roommate of White's at Green Bay, told The Tennessean newspaper how small decisions testified to White's character. "I can remember during training camp renting this video that had a sexually suggestive scene in it," Galbreath said. "Reggie said, 'You need to turn that off.' I said, 'No, man, I'm watching the movie.' Reggie then got up and turned off the TV, and I didn't say a thing." Earlier this year, Mark Brunell, a former teammate of White's with the Packers, recalled for The Washington Times one of White's impromptu sermons in the Green Bay locker room. "Y'all need to go to Bible study," White's booming baritone declared. "Y'all need to go and listen to the Gospel." Moments later, "Y'all not listening to me because I'm talking about something that you don't like. Why y'all going to the parties? Why y'all doing these things when you won't even open your Bible?" Brunell thought of White as a quarterback-cruncher preaching peace, like a 300-pound Jesus amid the football grit, The Times said. "I was in shock," Brunell said. "But that was Reggie. He was very outspoken. Very bold. He was a great example." White encountered much criticism following a 1998 speech to the Wisconsin legislature. He presented the biblical position on many problems in society, including greed, sexual immorality, race relations and obscene movies and music. Homosexual rights activists
RE: [TruthTalk] [Fwd: Reggie White NFL Football Player]
Did you know Reggie was MESSIANIC??? Yep...he celebrated Sukkot with some friends of ours for the past two years. A young Messianic, but a Messianic nonetheless. Kay -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Terry CliftonSent: Thursday, 06 January, 2005 07.13To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: [TruthTalk] [Fwd: Reggie White NFL Football Player]
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Did you know Reggie was MESSIANIC??? Yep...he celebrated Sukkot with some friends of ours for the past two years. A young Messianic, but a Messianic nonetheless. Kay === Until a short time ago, I knew nothing about this man. I look up to very few people, simply because sooner or later they all show that they have feet of clay, but I look up to this man. This is what every man should be. A child of God who shows his love for the Father. Terry -
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I did not know he was Messianic, but I did know that he learned Hebrew and I heard him read a passage of Scripture in Hebrewonce. By the way, does celebrating Sukkoth make one Messianic? (... just curious) Peace be with you.David Miller. - Original Message - From: Slade Henson To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 8:32 AM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] [Fwd: Reggie White NFL Football Player] Did you know Reggie was MESSIANIC??? Yep...he celebrated Sukkot with some friends of ours for the past two years. A young Messianic, but a Messianic nonetheless. Kay -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Terry CliftonSent: Thursday, 06 January, 2005 07.13To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: [TruthTalk] [Fwd: Reggie White NFL Football Player]
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No, it
doesn't necessarily. There are other "feast keepers" who are not Messianic. Mr.
White kept Sabbath and was Torah observant.
Are
you thinking of celebrating Sukkot?
K.
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I did not know he was Messianic, but I did know that he learned Hebrew
and I heard him read a passage of Scripture in Hebrewonce. By the
way, does celebrating Sukkoth make one Messianic? (... just curious)
Peace be with you.David Miller.
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Did you know Reggie was MESSIANIC???
Yep...he celebrated Sukkot with some friends of ours for the past two
years. A young Messianic, but a Messianic nonetheless.
Kay
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Quoted from: http://www.rebeccaatthewell.org/tabernacles.html REGGIE WHITE: Although Reggie has been a born again believer since 1978 and began preaching shortly thereafter it wasn't until 2000 that he became an Ordained Minister of the Torah. As a former NFL Player and team leader Reggie uses his skills to challenge both young and old to serve YHVA in a deeper spiritual walk that only the Torah can bring. He has joined together with a new team, one of like minded believers that know that the Torah walk is the missing link in Christianity today.
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I would say much the same of my fellow Believers in Torah teachers...and DOers, which Reggie was. Kay -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Terry CliftonSent: Thursday, 06 January, 2005 07.45To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: [Fwd: RE: [TruthTalk] [Fwd: Reggie White NFL Football Player]] Did you know Reggie was MESSIANIC??? Yep...he celebrated Sukkot with some friends of ours for the past two years. A young Messianic, but a Messianic nonetheless. Kay===Until a short time ago, I knew nothing about this man. I look up to very few people, simply because sooner or later they all show that they have feet of clay, but I look up to this man. This is what every man should be. A child of God who shows his love for the Father.Terry -
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In a message dated 1/6/2005 8:33:48 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Did you know Reggie was MESSIANIC??? Yep...he celebrated Sukkot with some friends of ours for the past two years. A young Messianic, but a Messianic nonetheless. Kay I saw a reference to Reggie's increasing "confusion" as a religious man in the later years of his life. I love it. This was spoken by some ingrate who takes his orders from the top and will say whatever "they" tell him to say. Such is the new macho sports writer on ESPN. In this case, anxious to make a disciple of Christ unimportant in that most important regard. I see it as a move in the right direction FOR REGGIE. There is no doubt in my mind that his faith was increasingly stronger. John
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Yea, wellya gotta take what comes with the job! Some of us, though, refuse to do what "they" tell us to do... As he learned hayesod (the foundation), you're right...his faith grew stronger. I've seen it happen more times than I can count. Then again, I'm generally surrounded by Messi's! :) Kay -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, 06 January, 2005 19.32To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [Fwd: RE: [TruthTalk] [Fwd: Reggie White NFL Football Player]]In a message dated 1/6/2005 8:33:48 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Did you know Reggie was MESSIANIC???Yep...he celebrated Sukkot with some friends of ours for the past two years. A young Messianic, but a Messianic nonetheless. KayI saw a reference to Reggie's increasing "confusion" as a religious man in the later years of his life. I love it. This was spoken by some ingrate who takes his orders from the top and will say whatever "they" tell him to say. Such is the new macho sports writer on ESPN. In this case, anxious to make a disciple of Christ unimportant in that most important regard. I see it as a move in the right direction FOR REGGIE. There is no doubt in my mind that his faith was increasingly stronger. John
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In a message dated 1/6/2005 8:40:40 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I personally believe that Romans 14 teaches us that a position of faith, if poorly determined, I should have said "even if" -- " a position of faith, even if poorly determined ..." J
