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I have come to the conclusion (duh!) that my participation on TT is not a worthwhile contribution. I need to use my time wisely as a faithful steward. Please unsubscribe me. Thanks and blessings to each one of you. Let me know when you figure it all out. Just remember, it’s not what you know but Who you know. See you on the other side. J Izzy
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DAVEH: As I said before, when Jeff made that comment, it caused
me to wince. I think Jeff responded in error, unless he was thinking
along the lines I just mentioned. I can't imagine any LDS person from
the bottom (Jeff) to the top (Pres Hinckley) not believing in the virgin
birth, death and resurrection of Jesus. That is the way I remember
you defining "Christian", and that is doctrine that LDS theology subscribes
to.
He then backed down, maybe.
THIS MORMON JESUS BEING THE BROTHER OF SATAN IS SUSPECT AT THE VERY
LEAST.DAVEH: I explained
that relative to the pre-mortal existence. I understand you don't
believe it. In fact, you said something to the effect that you
really don't care about any pre-mortal existence, if I remember
correctly. It is that lack of interest in something that is so
important which I find so interesting. That is why I am in
TT.to find out why Protestants would ignore such an important part
of the gospel and their eternal progression.
This is where you don't understand Christians. All
Christians preach the same gospel. The gospel is the death,
buriel, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. This is where we
all agree.
DAVEH: Then you would consider LDS folks to be
Christian too, since we believe the
such!?!?!?!?!?Michael D: Dave H, and Glenn, on a point of
interest ... If someone said he believed in Jesus who was born of a
virgin, died and resurrected, but was fathered by a super-evolved ape,
and is/was himself one, would that qualify as the same Jesus as
Christians, and LDSers, believe
in?DAVEH: No to both questions.
Michael D: Well, the conclusion is obvious, I am
sure. The Jesus LDS folks believe in was created by the Father, who was once
a man (haven't gotten a definitive answer from Dave H. yet as to how He
became such. Of course, there was a non-LDS offering recently {Perry,
I think} that summarized the LDS teaching thus: God, the Father of
Jesus, resulted from an infinite regression of Gods... Is that accurate LDS
Dave H??? If not, can you offer fruther enlightenment?) and is
now an exalted man: as is the Son whom He created, who was an
angel, the brother of
satan, who became a mortal man, and has now achieved the state
of exalted man, thus making him a God like His Father. And He is working to
make us all exalted men , thus making us Gods like Him and His Father.
Did I get that right, Dave H?
Contrastingly, Born-again Christians believe that God
the Father is eternal: having no beginning nor ending, He alwasy was God and
never was anything else. Jesus is also eternal, having no beginning, nor
ending. Was never an angelic being, but always
divine, was the creator of satan, and all other
things that ever came into being. He took on human flesh an thus becoming a
man, and having been glorified, is now Lord of all creation, Not just by
virtue of creation anymore, but by virtue of redemption and
reconciliation.
The Mormon Jesus, and the Jesus of Born-again
Christians share great diffeerences which set them eternities apart from
each other.
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We'll meet you there, Izzy -- and remember you often in the meantime. bill - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 5:41 PM Subject: [TruthTalk] unsubscribe I have come to the conclusion (duh!) that my participation on TT is not a worthwhile contribution. I need to use my time wisely as a faithful steward. Please unsubscribe me. Thanks and blessings to each one of you. Let me know when you figure it all out. Just remember, its not what you know but Who you know. See you on the other side. J Izzy
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Sorry to see you go and I understand where you are coming from. Keep my email address and phone number -- slade -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of ShieldsFamilySent: Monday, 22 November, 2004 19.42To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [TruthTalk] unsubscribe I have come to the conclusion (duh!) that my participation on TT is not a worthwhile contribution. I need to use my time wisely as a faithful steward. Please unsubscribe me. Thanks and blessings to each one of you. Let me know when you figure it all out. Just remember, it’s not what you know but Who you know. See you on the other side. J Izzy
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I have always appreciated your contributions. You will be missed. --Marlin - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 7:41 PM Subject: [TruthTalk] unsubscribe I have come to the conclusion (duh!) that my participation on TT is not a worthwhile contribution. I need to use my time wisely as a faithful steward. Please unsubscribe me. Thanks and blessings to each one of you. Let me know when you figure it all out. Just remember, its not what you know but Who you know. See you on the other side. J Izzy
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In a message dated 11/23/2004 7:36:39 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have always appreciated your contributions. You will be missed. --Marlin - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 7:41 PM Subject: [TruthTalk] unsubscribe I have come to the conclusion (duh!) that my participation on TT is not a worthwhile contribution. I need to use my time wisely as a faithful steward. Please unsubscribe me. Thanks and blessings to each one of you. Let me know when you figure it all out. Just remember, itâs not what you know but Who you know. See you on the other side. J Izzy Hury back. John
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Having been moving for the last couple of days, I just got a chance to sit down for a rest and browse through TT. I am dismayed as what I see. I wonder why I have been wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here. The answer, of course, is that I dearly enjoy reading and sharing posts with the kindhearted Believers on TT. But the truth is, in real life I would never associate with the toxic people I find here. I don't need hateful, nasty people insulting me or my friends. I have so many delightful friends to spend the precious moments of my life with, and so very much to accomplish. Life is increasingly short, and I am convicted about spending it wisely. So dear Lance, jd, and Gary, enjoy insulting me to your heart's desire while I'm gone. I'm giving up TT for New Year's. I hope the rest of you will email me often. Love and Blessings and a closer walk with Jesus to every one of you, Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 2:34 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets Why not go with 'blowin' smoke' if it makes you feel better, I'm not even a Mormon, Perry. Why be such a nuisance? Move on! David is, IMO, & on some occasions, a pompous ass. Should you find him to be otherwise then, good for you! - Original Message - From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: December 30, 2005 15:02 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets > All I am asking, Lance, is for you to clarify what you consider to be > speculation in David's post. You often sit back and direct others to > produce stuff, while producing very little substance yourself, so I > suspected you would not point out David's speculation. Perhaps you just do > not want to put forth the effort...or perhaps you are blowing smoke. > > Perry > > >>From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org >>To: >>Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets >>Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 14:33:40 -0500 >> >>You may 'rather' all you want to, Perry. Remember, I watched the 'extended >>version' of the conversation between yourself and the 'annointed one' on >>Scripture. He simply cannot acknowledge wrongheadedness. >> >> >>- Original Message - From: "Charles Perry Locke" >><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: >>Sent: December 30, 2005 14:25 >>Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets >> >> >>>I'd rather you did it, Lance, since you are making the claim, and I would >>>like to see it as YOU see it. Only you can show me that. >>> From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 13:36:30 -0500 I'd rather David did it, Perry. He knows which is which. One wearies of his pompous treatment of his 'subjects' on TT. - Original Message - From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: December 30, 2005 13:23 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets > >Lance, you may be right, but please separate the biblical from the >speculation in David's post so the rest of us can see it as you do. > >Perry > > >>From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org >>To: >>Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets >>Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 12:46:44 -0500 >> >>IMO you speak more often with presumption than with authority. Much of >>that which you've said below is biblical but, some of it is >>speculation and, I believe that you know which is which. >> >>Giftedness and maturity, sadly, do not go hand in hand. >> >> >>- Original Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: >>Sent: December 30, 2005 12:18 >>Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets >> >> >>>John wrote: I do believe that the apostles had a measure of the Spirit that was in addition that of the gifts of the Spirit >>> >>>The apostolic office is characgterized by special signs and wonders, >>>yes, >>>but this should not be characterized as you have done here. Read 1 >>>Cor. 12 >>>for the proper perspective of apostles to the rest of the body of >>>Christ. >>> >>>John wrote: ... the 7 deacons could not do anything of a miracluous nature before the apostles layed hands on them. >>> >>>Mere speculation on your part, which flies in the face of church >>>tradition >>>and historical writings. Furthermore, the Scriptures themselves >>>suggest >>>otherwise when they describe these men already as men of faith, >>>filled with >>>the Holy Ghost. >>> >>>John wrote: Miracles do continue in the church to this day but
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And the most caustic among us has moved on! -- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Having been moving for the last couple of days, I just got a chance to sit > down for a rest and browse through TT. I am dismayed as what I see. I > wonder why I have been wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here. > The answer, of course, is that I dearly enjoy reading and sharing posts with > the kindhearted Believers on TT. But the truth is, in real life I would > never associate with the toxic people I find here. I don't need hateful, > nasty people insulting me or my friends. I have so many delightful friends > to spend the precious moments of my life with, and so very much to > accomplish. Life is increasingly short, and I am convicted about spending it > wisely. So dear Lance, jd, and Gary, enjoy insulting me to your heart's > desire while I'm gone. I'm giving up TT for New Year's. I hope the rest of > you will email me often. Love and Blessings and a closer walk with Jesus to > every one of you, Izzy > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir > Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 2:34 PM > To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets > > Why not go with 'blowin' smoke' if it makes you feel better, I'm not even a > Mormon, Perry. Why be such a nuisance? Move on! David is, IMO, & on some > occasions, a pompous ass. Should you find him to be otherwise then, good > for you! > > > - Original Message - > From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: December 30, 2005 15:02 > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets > > > > All I am asking, Lance, is for you to clarify what you consider to be > > speculation in David's post. You often sit back and direct others to > > produce stuff, while producing very little substance yourself, so I > > suspected you would not point out David's speculation. Perhaps you just do > > > not want to put forth the effort...or perhaps you are blowing smoke. > > > > Perry > > > > > >>From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org > >>To: > >>Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets > >>Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 14:33:40 -0500 > >> > >>You may 'rather' all you want to, Perry. Remember, I watched the 'extended > > >>version' of the conversation between yourself and the 'annointed one' on > >>Scripture. He simply cannot acknowledge wrongheadedness. > >> > >> > >>- Original Message - From: "Charles Perry Locke" > >><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>To: > >>Sent: December 30, 2005 14:25 > >>Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets > >> > >> > >>>I'd rather you did it, Lance, since you are making the claim, and I would > > >>>like to see it as YOU see it. Only you can show me that. > >>> > From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org > To: > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets > Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 13:36:30 -0500 > > I'd rather David did it, Perry. He knows which is which. One wearies of > his pompous treatment of his 'subjects' on TT. > > > - Original Message - From: "Charles Perry Locke" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: December 30, 2005 13:23 > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets > > > > > >Lance, you may be right, but please separate the biblical from the > >speculation in David's post so the rest of us can see it as you do. > > > >Perry > > > > > >>From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org > >>To: > >>Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets > >>Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 12:46:44 -0500 > >> > >>IMO you speak more often with presumption than with authority. Much of > > >>that which you've said below is biblical but, some of it is > >>speculation and, I believe that you know which is which. > >> > >>Giftedness and maturity, sadly, do not go hand in hand. > >> > >> > >>- Original Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>To: > >>Sent: December 30, 2005 12:18 > >>Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets > >> > >> > >>>John wrote: > I do believe that the apostles had a measure > of the Spirit that was in addition that of the > gifts of the Spirit > >>> > >>>The apostolic office is characgterized by special signs and wonders, > >>>yes, > >>>but this should not be characterized as you have done here. Read 1 > >>>Cor. 12 > >>>for the proper perspective of apostles to the rest of the body of > >>>Christ. > >>> > >>>John wrote: > ... the 7 deacons could not do anything of a > miracluous nature before the apostles layed > han
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ShieldsFamily wrote: You cannot just stop cold turkey. If you don't taper off gradually, you will have a relapse. Terry Having been moving for the last couple of days, I just got a chance to sit down for a rest and browse through TT. I am dismayed as what I see. I wonder why I have been wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here. The answer, of course, is that I dearly enjoy reading and sharing posts with the kindhearted Believers on TT. But the truth is, in real life I would never associate with the toxic people I find here. I don't need hateful, nasty people insulting me or my friends. I have so many delightful friends to spend the precious moments of my life with, and so very much to accomplish. Life is increasingly short, and I am convicted about spending it wisely. So dear Lance, jd, and Gary, enjoy insulting me to your heart's desire while I'm gone. I'm giving up TT for New Year's. I hope the rest of you will email me often. Love and Blessings and a closer walk with Jesus to every one of you, Izzy -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
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Izzy is NOT the most caustic. Someone breaks the ad hominem rule and calls me a foul name that I cannot even repeat in good conscience, and Izzy is so upset by it that she wants to leave the list, and you call her the most caustic among us? Shame on you. Izzy has more love flowing through her little pinky finger at this very moment than most people will ever experience in their whole lifetime on earth. David M. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ; Cc: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 9:54 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please And the most caustic among us has moved on! -- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Having been moving for the last couple of days, I just got a chance to sit > down for a rest and browse through TT. I am dismayed as what I see. I > wonder why I have been wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here. > The answer, of course, is that I dearly enjoy reading and sharing posts > with > the kindhearted Believers on TT. But the truth is, in real life I would > never associate with the toxic people I find here. I don't need hateful, > nasty people insulting me or my friends. I have so many delightful > friends > to spend the precious moments of my life with, and so very much to > accomplish. Life is increasingly short, and I am convicted about spending > it > wisely. So dear Lance, jd, and Gary, enjoy insulting me to your heart's > desire while I'm gone. I'm giving up TT for New Year's. I hope the rest of > you will email me often. Love and Blessings and a closer walk with Jesus > to > every one of you, Izzy > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir > Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 2:34 PM > To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets > > Why not go with 'blowin' smoke' if it makes you feel better, I'm not even > a > Mormon, Perry. Why be such a nuisance? Move on! David is, IMO, & on some > occasions, a pompous ass. Should you find him to be otherwise then, good > for you! > > > - Original Message - > From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: December 30, 2005 15:02 > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets > > > > All I am asking, Lance, is for you to clarify what you consider to be > > speculation in David's post. You often sit back and direct others to > > produce stuff, while producing very little substance yourself, so I > > suspected you would not point out David's speculation. Perhaps you just > > do > > > not want to put forth the effort...or perhaps you are blowing smoke. > > > > Perry > > > > > >>From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org > >>To: > >>Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets > >>Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 14:33:40 -0500 > >> > >>You may 'rather' all you want to, Perry. Remember, I watched the > >>'extended > > >>version' of the conversation between yourself and the 'annointed one' on > >>Scripture. He simply cannot acknowledge wrongheadedness. > >> > >> > >>- Original Message - From: "Charles Perry Locke" > >><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>To: > >>Sent: December 30, 2005 14:25 > >>Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets > >> > >> > >>>I'd rather you did it, Lance, since you are making the claim, and I > >>>would > > >>>like to see it as YOU see it. Only you can show me that. > >>> > >>>>From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org > >>>>To: > >>>>Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets > >>>>Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 13:36:30 -0500 > >>>> > >>>>I'd rather David did it, Perry. He knows which is which. One wearies > >>>>of > >>>>his pompous treatment of his 'subjects' on TT. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>- Original Message - From: "Charles Perry Locke" > >>>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>To: > >>>>Sent: December 30, 2005 13:23 > >>>>Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets > >>>> > >>
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I think that Iz would prefer, David, that we not make her departure an ongoing topic. BUT: I concur that she is NOT the most caustic. Why do what you do best? Define 'caustic' then, review her posts over the past year. She'd get much more than an honorable mention, David. Further:Please be more specific as to the 'ad hom' & 'foul name that I (you) cannot even repeat in good conscience'. Are you referring to my remark describing you? Lastly, I suspect Iz would never use the language you did to describe herself. I suspect that even her husband would not. Reign yourself in just a tad, David. Peace be upon you, David. (It'd appear that you lost your 'peace' during that post.) - Original Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: December 31, 2005 08:03 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please Izzy is NOT the most caustic. Someone breaks the ad hominem rule and calls me a foul name that I cannot even repeat in good conscience, and Izzy is so upset by it that she wants to leave the list, and you call her the most caustic among us? Shame on you. Izzy has more love flowing through her little pinky finger at this very moment than most people will ever experience in their whole lifetime on earth. David M. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ; Cc: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 9:54 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please And the most caustic among us has moved on! -- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Having been moving for the last couple of days, I just got a chance to sit down for a rest and browse through TT. I am dismayed as what I see. I wonder why I have been wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here. The answer, of course, is that I dearly enjoy reading and sharing posts with the kindhearted Believers on TT. But the truth is, in real life I would never associate with the toxic people I find here. I don't need hateful, nasty people insulting me or my friends. I have so many delightful friends to spend the precious moments of my life with, and so very much to accomplish. Life is increasingly short, and I am convicted about spending it wisely. So dear Lance, jd, and Gary, enjoy insulting me to your heart's desire while I'm gone. I'm giving up TT for New Year's. I hope the rest of you will email me often. Love and Blessings and a closer walk with Jesus to every one of you, Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 2:34 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets Why not go with 'blowin' smoke' if it makes you feel better, I'm not even a Mormon, Perry. Why be such a nuisance? Move on! David is, IMO, & on some occasions, a pompous ass. Should you find him to be otherwise then, good for you! - Original Message - From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: December 30, 2005 15:02 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets > All I am asking, Lance, is for you to clarify what you consider to be > speculation in David's post. You often sit back and direct others to > produce stuff, while producing very little substance yourself, so I > suspected you would not point out David's speculation. Perhaps you just > do > not want to put forth the effort...or perhaps you are blowing smoke. > > Perry > > >>From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org >>To: >>Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets >>Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 14:33:40 -0500 >> >>You may 'rather' all you want to, Perry. Remember, I watched the >>'extended >>version' of the conversation between yourself and the 'annointed one' >>on >>Scripture. He simply cannot acknowledge wrongheadedness. >> >> >>- Original Message - From: "Charles Perry Locke" >><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: >>Sent: December 30, 2005 14:25 >>Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets >> >> >>>I'd rather you did it, Lance, since you are making the claim, and I >>>would >>>like to see it as YOU see it. Only you can show me that. >>> >>>>From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org >>>>To: >>>>Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets >>>>Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 13:36:30 -0500 >>>> >>>>I'd rat
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Thank you for this kind parting remark to my personal email, jd. Perfect confirmation that I am doing the right thing. Blessings, izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 8:55 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: ShieldsFamily Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please And the most caustic among us has moved on! -- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Having been moving for the last couple of days, I just got a chance to sit > down for a rest and browse through TT. I am dismayed as what I see. I > wonder why I have been wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here. > The answer, of course, is that I dearly enjoy reading and sharing posts with > the kindhearted Believers on TT. But the truth is, in real life I would > never associate with the toxic people I find here. I don't need hateful, > nasty people insulting me or my friends. I have so many delightful friends > to spend the precious moments of my life with, and so very much to > accomplish. Life is increasingly short, and I am convicted about spending it > wisely. So dear Lance, jd, and Gary, enjoy insulting me to your heart's > desire while I'm gone. I'm giving up TT for New Year's. I hope the rest of > you will email me often. Love and Blessings and a closer walk with Jesus to > every one of you, Izzy > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir > Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 2:34 PM > To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets > > Why not go with 'blowin' smoke' if it makes you feel better, I'm not even a > Mormon, Perry. Why be such a nuisance? Move on! David is, IMO, & on some > occasions, a pompous ass. Should you find him to be otherwise then, good > for you! > > > - Original Message - > From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: December 30, 2005 15:02 > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets > > > > All I am asking, Lance, is for you to clarify what you consider to be > > speculation in David's post. You often sit back and direct others to > > produce stuff, while producing very little substance yourself, so I > > suspected you would not point out David's speculation. Perhaps you just do > > > not want to put forth the effort...or perhaps you are blowing smoke. > > > > Perry > > > > > >>From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org > >>To: > >>Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets > >>Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 14:33:40 -0500 > >> > >>You may 'rather' all you want to, Perry. Remember, I watched the 'extended > > >>version' of the conversation between yourself and the 'annointed one' on > >>Scripture. He simply cannot acknowledge wrongheadedness. > >> > >> > >>- Original Message - From: "Charles Perry Locke" > >><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>To: > >>Sent: December 30, 2005 14:25 > >>Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets > >> > >> > >>>I'd rather you did it, Lance, since you are making the claim, and I would > > >>>like to see it as YOU see it. Only you can show me that. > >>> > >>>>From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org > >>>>To: > >>>>Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets > >>>>Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 13:36:30 -0500 > >>>> > >>>>I'd rather David did it, Perry. He knows which is which. One wearies of > >>>>his pompous treatment of his 'subjects' on TT. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>- Original Message - From: "Charles Perry Locke" > >>>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>To: > >>>>Sent: December 30, 2005 13:23 > >>>>Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>Lance, you may be right, but please separate the biblical from the > >>>>>speculation in David's post so the rest of us can see it as you do. > >>>>> > >>>>>Perry > >>>>> > >>>>
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You know, I actually gave my comment some thought. But, as I read her final post, I realized that I needed to make my point. I will not discuss it further, David, since she is gone (she has left before, by the way.) I have as much fondness of her and she has expressed towards me. Just being honest. jd -- Original message -- From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Izzy is NOT the most caustic. Someone breaks the ad hominem rule and calls > me a foul name that I cannot even repeat in good conscience, and Izzy is so > upset by it that she wants to leave the list, and you call her the most > caustic among us? Shame on you. Izzy has more love flowing through her > little pinky finger at this very moment than most people will ever > experience in their whole lifetime on earth. > > David M. > > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> To: ; > Cc: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 9:54 PM > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please > > > And the most caustic among us has moved on! > > -- Original message -- > From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > Having been moving for the last couple of days, I just got a chance to sit > > down for a rest and browse through TT. I am dismayed as what I see. I > > wonder why I have been wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here. > > The answer, of course, is that I dearly enjoy reading and sharing posts > > with > > the kindhearted Believers on TT. But the truth is, in real life I would > > never associate with the toxic people I find here. I don't need hateful, > > nasty people insulting me or my friends. I have so many delightful > > friends > > to spend the precious moments of my life with, and so very much to > > accomplish. Life is increasingly short, and I am convicted about spending > > it > > wisely. So dear Lance, jd, and Gary, enjoy insulting me to your heart's > > desire while I'm gone. I'm giving up TT for New Year's. I hope the rest of > > you will email me often. Love and Blessings and a closer walk with Jesus > > to > > every one of you, Izzy > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir > > Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 2:34 PM > > To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org > > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets > > > > Why not go with 'blowin' smoke' if it makes you feel better, I'm not even > > a > > Mormon, Perry. Why be such a nuisance? Move on! David is, IMO, & on some > > occasions, a pompous ass. Should you find him to be otherwise then, good > > for you! > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: > > Sent: December 30, 2005 15:02 > > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets > > > > > > > All I am asking, Lance, is for you to clarify what you consider to be > > > speculation in David's post. You often sit back and direct others to > > > produce stuff, while producing very little substance yourself, so I > > > suspected you would not point out David's speculation. Perhaps you just > > > do > > > > > not want to put forth the effort...or perhaps you are blowing smoke. > > > > > > Perry > > > > > > > > >>From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > >>Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org > > >>To: > > >>Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets > > >>Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 14:33:40 -050 0 > > >> > > >>You may 'rather' all you want to, Perry. Remember, I watched the > > >>'extended > > > > >>version' of the conversation between yourself and the 'annointed one' on > > >>Scripture. He simply cannot acknowledge wrongheadedness. > > >> > > >> > > >>- Original Message - From: "Charles Perry Locke" > > >><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >>To: > > >>Sent: December 30, 2005 14:25 > > >>Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets > > >> > > >> > > >>>I'd rather you did it, Lance, since you are making the claim, and I > > >>>would > > > > >>>like to see it as YOU see it. Only you can show me that. > > >>> > &
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myth (someone manufactured this explanation--Izzy cited other mythological reasons) On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:03:57 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:>
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in context, the essence of current compound/ed cultic-apostolic myth: "..I have been wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here." -- Izzy On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:17:52 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: myth (someone manufactured this explanation--Izzy cited other mythological reasons) On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:03:57 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:>
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..cultic-apostolic theory rules from the right of the right On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:31:58 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: in context, the essence of current compound/ed cultic-apostolic myth: "..I have been wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here." -- Izzy On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:17:52 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: myth (someone manufactured this explanation--Izzy cited other mythological reasons) On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:03:57 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:>
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..whoever intelligently disagrees is left On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:46:50 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..cultic-apostolic theory rules from the right of the right On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:31:58 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: in context, the essence of current compound/ed cultic-apostolic myth: "..I have been wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here." -- Izzy On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:17:52 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: myth (someone manufactured this explanation--Izzy cited other mythological reasons) On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:03:57 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:>
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..ftr, Mormanizm is right:) On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:55:22 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..whoever intelligently disagrees is left On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:46:50 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..cultic-apostolic theory rules from the right of the right On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:31:58 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: in context, the essence of current compound/ed cultic-apostolic myth: "..I have been wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here." -- Izzy On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:17:52 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: myth (someone manufactured this explanation--Izzy cited other mythological reasons) On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:03:57 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:>
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And therein is its limitation. Right? jd -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ..cultic-apostolic theory rules from the right of the right On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:31:58 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: in context, the essence of current compound/ed cultic-apostolic myth: "..I have been wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here." -- Izzy On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:17:52 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: myth (someone manufactured this explanation--Izzy cited other mythological reasons) On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:03:57 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:>
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right, somewhere therein :) On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 16:45:17 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And therein is its limitation. Right? jd -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ..cultic-apostolic theory rules from the right of the right On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:31:58 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: in context, the essence of current compound/ed cultic-apostolic myth: "..I have been wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here." -- Izzy On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:17:52 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: myth (someone manufactured this explanation--Izzy cited other mythological reasons) On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:03:57 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:>
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DAVEH: WOWWhat are you doing, G.trying to set a new TT record for the number of times you can respond to your own posts!?!?!?!? =-O BTW...Of course Mormanizm is right...that's why I feel so comfortable, even when amongst friends who are left of right. :-D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ..ftr, Mormanizm is right:) On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:55:22 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..whoever intelligently disagrees is left On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:46:50 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..cultic-apostolic theory rules from the right of the right On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:31:58 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: in context, the essence of current compound/ed cultic-apostolic myth: "..I have been wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here." -- Izzy On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:17:52 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: myth (someone manufactured this explanation--Izzy cited other mythological reasons) On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:03:57 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: < upset by it that she wants to leave the list,>> -- ~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain six email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS.
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yes, its clear, Bro, rightizm iz like Naziism On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:58:40 -0800 Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: || ..Of course Mormanizm is right...that's why I feel so comfortable..amongst friends who are left of right... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ..ftr, Mormanizm is right:) On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:55:22 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..whoever intelligently disagrees is left On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:46:50 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..cultic-apostolic theory rules from the right of the right On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:31:58 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: in context, the essence of current compound/ed cultic-apostolic myth: "..I have been wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here." -- Izzy On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:17:52 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: myth (someone manufactured this explanation--Izzy cited other mythological reasons) On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:03:57 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:> -- ~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain six email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS.
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...loyally snipin' some of us with machine guns On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 10:10:49 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: yes, its clear, Bro, rightizm iz like Naziism On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:58:40 -0800 Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: || ..Of course Mormanizm is right...that's why I feel so comfortable..amongst friends who are left of right... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ..ftr, Mormanizm is right:) On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:55:22 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..whoever intelligently disagrees is left On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:46:50 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..cultic-apostolic theory rules from the right of the right On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:31:58 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: in context, the essence of current compound/ed cultic-apostolic myth: "..I have been wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here." -- Izzy On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:17:52 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: myth (someone manufactured this explanation--Izzy cited other mythological reasons) On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:03:57 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:> -- ~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain six email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS.
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..Naziism started in the German labor movement--Hitler, with his certain JS-like qualities was first a labor/er's philosopher-politico On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 10:10:49 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: yes, its clear, Bro, rightizm iz like Naziism On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:58:40 -0800 Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: || ..Of course Mormanizm is right...that's why I feel so comfortable..amongst friends who are left of right... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ..ftr, Mormanizm is right:) On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:55:22 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..whoever intelligently disagrees is left On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:46:50 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..cultic-apostolic theory rules from the right of the right On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:31:58 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: in context, the essence of current compound/ed cultic-apostolic myth: "..I have been wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here." -- Izzy On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:17:52 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: myth (someone manufactured this explanation--Izzy cited other mythological reasons) On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:03:57 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:> -- ~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain six email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS.
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..then they said they got right with the lord--check out their propaganda, too On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 10:24:21 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..Naziism started in the German labor movement--Hitler, with his certain JS-like qualities was first a labor/er's philosopher-politico On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 10:10:49 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: yes, its clear, Bro, rightizm iz like Naziism On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:58:40 -0800 Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: || ..Of course Mormanizm is right...that's why I feel so comfortable..amongst friends who are left of right... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ..ftr, Mormanizm is right:) On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:55:22 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..whoever intelligently disagrees is left On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:46:50 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..cultic-apostolic theory rules from the right of the right On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:31:58 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: in context, the essence of current compound/ed cultic-apostolic myth: "..I have been wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here." -- Izzy On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:17:52 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: myth (someone manufactured this explanation--Izzy cited other mythological reasons) On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:03:57 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:> -- ~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain six email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS.
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yes, its clear, Bro DAVEH: Seems only to be clear to those who are myopic, IMO. Nice play on words, G.I'm sure iz would be rightly proud of you! ;-) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes, its clear, Bro, rightizm iz like Naziism On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:58:40 -0800 Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: || ..Of course Mormanizm is right...that's why I feel so comfortable..amongst friends who are left of right... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ..ftr, Mormanizm is right:) On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:55:22 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..whoever intelligently disagrees is left On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:46:50 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..cultic-apostolic theory rules from the right of the right On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:31:58 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: in context, the essence of current compound/ed cultic-apostolic myth: "..I have been wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here." -- Izzy On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:17:52 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: myth (someone manufactured this explanation--Izzy cited other mythological reasons) On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:03:57 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: < upset by it that she wants to leave the list,>> -- ~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain six email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS.
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DAVEH: Given a chance to become Mormon, I suspect Hitler would feel more comfortable remaining a Protestant. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ..Naziism started in the German labor movement--Hitler, with his certain JS-like qualities was first a labor/er's philosopher-politico On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 10:10:49 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: yes, its clear, Bro, rightizm iz like Naziism On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:58:40 -0800 Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: || ..Of course Mormanizm is right...that's why I feel so comfortable..amongst friends who are left of right... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ..ftr, Mormanizm is right:) On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:55:22 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..whoever intelligently disagrees is left On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:46:50 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..cultic-apostolic theory rules from the right of the right On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:31:58 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: in context, the essence of current compound/ed cultic-apostolic myth: "..I have been wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here." -- Izzy On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:17:52 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: myth (someone manufactured this explanation--Izzy cited other mythological reasons) On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:03:57 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: < upset by it that she wants to leave the list,>>
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to bad he didn't pursue that option On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 09:58:14 -0800 Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: DAVEH: Given a chance to become Mormon, I suspect Hitler would feel more comfortable remaining a Protestant.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ..Naziism started in the German labor movement--Hitler, with his certain JS-like qualities was first a labor/er's philosopher-politico On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 10:10:49 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: yes, its clear, Bro, rightizm iz like Naziism On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:58:40 -0800 Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: || ..Of course Mormanizm is right...that's why I feel so comfortable..amongst friends who are left of right... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ..ftr, Mormanizm is right:) On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:55:22 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..whoever intelligently disagrees is left On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:46:50 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..cultic-apostolic theory rules from the right of the right On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:31:58 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: in context, the essence of current compound/ed cultic-apostolic myth: "..I have been wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here." -- Izzy On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:17:52 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: myth (someone manufactured this explanation--Izzy cited other mythological reasons) On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:03:57 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:>
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you're realizg certain critiques gotta be focusd--eh? On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 10:05:54 -0800 Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: yes, its clear, BroDAVEH: Seems only to be clear to those who are myopic, IMO. Nice play on words, G.I'm sure iz would be rightly proud of you! ;-) ||
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Don't pretend to understand himJohn. It just encourages him to keep writing answers to his own comments. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And therein is its limitation. Right? jd -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ..cultic-apostolic theory rules from the right of the right On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:31:58 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: in context, the essence of current compound/ed cultic-apostolic myth: "..I have been wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here." -- Izzy On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:17:52 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: myth (someone manufactured this explanation--Izzy cited other mythological reasons) On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:03:57 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: < upset by it that she wants to leave the list,>>
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..(your) evidence suggests that Mormanism lacks focus--partic, disparages, manipulates the NT, partic against Protestants On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 12:14:02 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: you're realizg certain critiques gotta be focusd--eh? On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 10:05:54 -0800 Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: yes, its clear, BroDAVEH: Seems only to be clear to those who are myopic, IMO. Nice play on words, G.I'm sure iz would be rightly proud of you! ;-) ||
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G, "bad" is not a verb, so the infinitive form "to bad" does not work here. :-) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 12:08:36 -0700 to bad he didn't pursue that option On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 09:58:14 -0800 Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: DAVEH:Given a chance to become Mormon, I suspect Hitler would feel more comfortable remaining a Protestant. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ..Naziism started in the German labor movement--Hitler, with his certain JS-like qualities was first a labor/er's philosopher-politico On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 10:10:49 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: yes, its clear, Bro, rightizm iz like Naziism On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:58:40 -0800 Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: || ..Of course Mormanizm is right...that's why I feel so comfortable..amongst friends who are left of right... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ..ftr, Mormanizm is right:) On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:55:22 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..whoever intelligently disagrees is left On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:46:50 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..cultic-apostolic theory rules from the right of the right On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:31:58 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: in context, the essence of current compound/ed cultic-apostolic myth: "..I have been wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here." -- Izzy On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:17:52 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: myth (someone manufactured this explanation--Izzy cited other mythological reasons) On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:03:57 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: <> -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
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DAVEH: Howevertoo bad might be a good description of Hitler. ;-) Charles Perry Locke wrote: G, "bad" is not a verb, so the infinitive form "to bad" does not work here. :-) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 12:08:36 -0700 to bad he didn't pursue that option On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 09:58:14 -0800 Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: DAVEH: Given a chance to become Mormon, I suspect Hitler would feel more comfortable remaining a Protestant. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ..Naziism started in the German labor movement--Hitler, with his certain JS-like qualities was first a labor/er's philosopher-politico On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 10:10:49 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: yes, its clear, Bro, rightizm iz like Naziism On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:58:40 -0800 Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: || ..Of course Mormanizm is right...that's why I feel so comfortable..amongst friends who are left of right... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ..ftr, Mormanizm is right:) On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:55:22 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..whoever intelligently disagrees is left On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:46:50 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..cultic-apostolic theory rules from the right of the right On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:31:58 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: in context, the essence of current compound/ed cultic-apostolic myth: "..I have been wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here." -- Izzy On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:17:52 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: myth (someone manufactured this explanation--Izzy cited other mythological reasons) On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:03:57 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: < upset by it that she wants to leave the list,>> -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- ~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain six email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS.
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DAVEH: Why should he bother, when Protestantism fulfilled his needs? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: to bad he didn't pursue that option On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 09:58:14 -0800 Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: DAVEH: Given a chance to become Mormon, I suspect Hitler would feel more comfortable remaining a Protestant. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ..Naziism started in the German labor movement--Hitler, with his certain JS-like qualities was first a labor/er's philosopher-politico On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 10:10:49 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: yes, its clear, Bro, rightizm iz like Naziism On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:58:40 -0800 Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: || ..Of course Mormanizm is right...that's why I feel so comfortable..amongst friends who are left of right... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ..ftr, Mormanizm is right:) On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:55:22 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..whoever intelligently disagrees is left On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:46:50 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..cultic-apostolic theory rules from the right of the right On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:31:58 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: in context, the essence of current compound/ed cultic-apostolic myth: "..I have been wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here." -- Izzy On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:17:52 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: myth (someone manufactured this explanation--Izzy cited other mythological reasons) On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:03:57 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: < upset by it that she wants to leave the list,>> -- ~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain six email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS.
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even untwisted history can't fathom THAT, let alone WHY Hitler could form a formal state church/alliance with the German Catholics under the regime of Pius XII; regardless, there's a v famous, then contemporary pic of Pius XIIs Reichs-Bishop among Nazis saluting Hitler at a cathedral in downtown Berlin c.1939--thus, Bro, Nazis ain't Protestant On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 13:33:30 -0800 Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: DAVEH: Why should he bother, when Protestantism fulfilled his needs? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: to[o] bad he didn't pursue that option On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 09:58:14 -0800 Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: DAVEH: Given a chance to become Mormon, I suspect Hitler would feel more comfortable remaining a Protestant.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ..Naziism started in the German labor movement--Hitler, with his certain JS-like qualities was first a labor/er's philosopher-politico On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 10:10:49 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: yes, its clear, Bro, rightizm iz like Naziism On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:58:40 -0800 Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: || ..Of course Mormanizm is right...that's why I feel so comfortable..amongst friends who are left of right... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ..ftr, Mormanizm is right:) On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:55:22 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..whoever intelligently disagrees is left On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:46:50 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..cultic-apostolic theory rules from the right of the right On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:31:58 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: in context, the essence of current compound/ed cultic-apostolic myth: "..I have been wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here." -- Izzy On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:17:52 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: myth (someone manufactured this explanation--Izzy cited other mythological reasons) On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:03:57 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:> -- ~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain six email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS.
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...ftr, some theoretically murderous, undoubtedly manipulative Catholics are trying to shed the imagery cited, below, of Pius XIIs regime, to be able to beatify Pius XII now On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 16:18:46 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..Protestants like Dietrich Bonhoeffer, whom many now respect even more in retrospect, were intelligently 'civil disobedient' even unto death in those days; also, in our day anti-war movements don't phase Mormans whose officials, like typical cult-apostolic politicians Hitler-esque wannabe usin' government/s like Catholics do, however they can On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 16:14:42 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: even untwisted history can't fathom THAT, let alone WHY Hitler could form a formal state church/alliance with the German Catholics under the regime of Pius XII; regardless, there's a v famous, then contemporary pic of Pius XIIs Reichs-Bishop among Nazis saluting Hitler at a cathedral in downtown Berlin c.1939--thus, Bro, Nazis ain't Protestant On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 13:33:30 -0800 Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: DAVEH: Why should he bother, when Protestantism fulfilled his needs? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: to[o] bad he didn't pursue that option On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 09:58:14 -0800 Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: DAVEH: Given a chance to become Mormon, I suspect Hitler would feel more comfortable remaining a Protestant.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ..Naziism started in the German labor movement--Hitler, with his certain JS-like qualities was first a labor/er's philosopher-politico On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 10:10:49 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: yes, its clear, Bro, rightizm iz like Naziism On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:58:40 -0800 Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: || ..Of course Mormanizm is right...that's why I feel so comfortable..amongst friends who are left of right... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ..ftr, Mormanizm is right:) On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:55:22 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..whoever intelligently disagrees is left On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:46:50 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..cultic-apostolic theory rules from the right of the right On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:31:58 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: in context, the essence of current compound/ed cultic-apostolic myth: "..I have been wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here." -- Izzy On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:17:52 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: myth (someone manufactured this explanation--Izzy cited other mythological reasons) On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:03:57 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:> -- ~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain six email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS.
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..Protestants like Dietrich Bonhoeffer, whom many now respect even more in retrospect, were intelligently 'civil disobedient' even unto death in those days; also, in our day anti-war movements don't phase Mormans whose officials, like typical cult-apostolic politicians Hitler-esque wannabe usin' government/s like Catholics do, however they can On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 16:14:42 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: even untwisted history can't fathom THAT, let alone WHY Hitler could form a formal state church/alliance with the German Catholics under the regime of Pius XII; regardless, there's a v famous, then contemporary pic of Pius XIIs Reichs-Bishop among Nazis saluting Hitler at a cathedral in downtown Berlin c.1939--thus, Bro, Nazis ain't Protestant On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 13:33:30 -0800 Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: DAVEH: Why should he bother, when Protestantism fulfilled his needs? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: to[o] bad he didn't pursue that option On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 09:58:14 -0800 Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: DAVEH: Given a chance to become Mormon, I suspect Hitler would feel more comfortable remaining a Protestant.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ..Naziism started in the German labor movement--Hitler, with his certain JS-like qualities was first a labor/er's philosopher-politico On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 10:10:49 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: yes, its clear, Bro, rightizm iz like Naziism On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:58:40 -0800 Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: || ..Of course Mormanizm is right...that's why I feel so comfortable..amongst friends who are left of right... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ..ftr, Mormanizm is right:) On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:55:22 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..whoever intelligently disagrees is left On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:46:50 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..cultic-apostolic theory rules from the right of the right On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:31:58 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: in context, the essence of current compound/ed cultic-apostolic myth: "..I have been wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here." -- Izzy On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:17:52 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: myth (someone manufactured this explanation--Izzy cited other mythological reasons) On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:03:57 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:> -- ~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain six email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS.
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I can almost hear Terry saying, "save the women and children !!" Perhaps we need to humor the one who is the maker of bats !!! jd -- Original message -- From: Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Don't pretend to understand himJohn. It just encourages him to keep writing answers to his own comments.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And therein is its limitation. Right? jd -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ..cultic-apostolic theory rules from the right of the right On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:31:58 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: in context, the essence of current compound/ed cultic-apostolic myth: "..I have been wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here." -- Izzy On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:17:52 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: myth (someone manufactured this explanation--Izzy cited other mythological reasons) On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:03:57 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:>
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'answers'--eh? On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 00:24:38 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I can almost hear Terry saying, "save the women and children !!" Perhaps we need to humor the one who is the maker of bats !!! jd -- Original message -- From: Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Don't pretend to understand himJohn. It just encourages him to keep writing answers to his own comments.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And therein is its limitation. Right? jd -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ..cultic-apostolic theory rules from the right of the right On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:31:58 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: in context, the essence of current compound/ed cultic-apostolic myth: "..I have been wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here." -- Izzy On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:17:52 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: myth (someone manufactured this explanation--Izzy cited other mythological reasons) On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:03:57 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:>
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You could be right. I will pretend to understand him too. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can almost hear Terry saying, "save the women and children !!" Perhaps we need to humor the one who is the maker of bats !!! jd -- Original message -- From: Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Don't pretend to understand himJohn. It just encourages him to keep writing answers to his own comments. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And therein is its limitation. Right? jd -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ..cultic-apostolic theory rules from the right of the right On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:31:58 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: in context, the essence of current compound/ed cultic-apostolic myth: "..I have been wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here." -- Izzy On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:17:52 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: myth (someone manufactured this explanation--Izzy cited other mythological reasons) On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:03:57 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: < upset by it that she wants to leave the list,>>
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thus, Bro, Nazis ain't Protestant DAVEH: Your logic is flawed on this, G, and you seem to be stuck in a box trying desperately to separate Nazism from Protestantism. When the Nazis seized power in 1933, the Protestant churches had suffered a decade of steep numerical decline; in that year, however, they began to gain members. For millions of German Protestants the Nazi regime signaled a revival of Christianity after the decadent, morally uncertain years of the Weimar Republic. Many Protestants, including pastors, became keen Nazi party members and officials. When, after 1937, relationships between the Protestant churches aim the Nazi state deteriorated and churchmen were dismissed from official posts, there was much disappointed protest. Catholicism, however, never appealed to the Nazis. (Hitler said on a number of occasions that he was nearer in spirit to Protestantism.) Principally this was because Catholicism was internationalist in outlook, while German Protestants were for the most part fiercely nationalist. But the Nazis's detestation of Rome derived also from their skewed notions about the papacy. The Vatican was, of course, a foreign power, which disqualified it from having any right of influence in insurgent Germany. It was also regarded as the culpable party in a centuries-old perversion of Christianity: materialist, luxurious and, above all, Jewish. (Hitler asserted a belief that all the most notorious Renaissance popes were Jews, the front men for the great Jewish conspiracy to achieve world domination.) ...Interestingly, the paganists were a minority, much derided by Hitler and Goebbels, who remained nominal Catholics and paid church taxes to the end. ...the author claims Hitler was a lip serving Catholic, but yet is seems obvious that his heart was with Protestantism. The above site can be found at... http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1058/is_16_121/ai_n8702389 Pictures you referred to can be found at... http://www.nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm ...As you run down through the pictures, please note the crosses on the graves of the Nazis. From what I've heard promoted on TT a short time ago, those crosses represent Christians. (I suggested they represented people who had died.) Now, if you read further down the page... Mass meeting of the German Christian Movement 13 Nov.1933 A radical wing of German Lutheranism and the main Protestant branch supporting Nazi ideology, the German Christian Movement reconciled Christian doctrine with German nationalism and antisemitism. ..and Ludwig Müller, a Nazi sympathizer, and a candidate of Hitler, was elected to the position of Reich Bishop in 1933 as Hitler attempted to unite regional Protestant churches under Nazi control. Hitler did not practice separation of Church & State. Berlin, Germany, November 17, 1933. ...you will notice a picture of LM. A few pictures later, you can see LM performing the Christian wedding of Goring, with Hitler as his best man. Shortly thereafter, you can imagine the influence Catholicism had on Hitler in his youth that failed to stick from his Mother's cemetery picture Hitler's mother's grave Klara Hitler was a pious Catholic mother who raised Hitler according to her beliefs. Hitler felt grief-stricken over his mother's death. She was buried alongside her husband in Linz, Austria. German soldiers here pay their respects to the grave in 1938. Note the Christian cross on her monument. so it becomes obvious that Hitler had roots in Catholicism that were merely catered to for political purposes. He seemed much more intent on focusing on Protestantism. As you get closer to the bottom, you can see pictures that reflect Deutsche Christen (German Christians) The Deutsche Christen (DC) became the voice of Nazi ideology within the Evangelical Church (the Religious Right of their day) and approved by Hitler. They proposed a church "Aryan paragraph" to prevent "non-Aryans" from becoming ministers or religious teachers. Most church leaders solidly supported the "Judenmission." Only a very few number of Christians opposed Nazism such as the "Confessing Christians" (a Church movement not recognized by the Protestant orthodoxy) headed by Dietrich Bonhoeffer. The support of Nazism by the majority of German Christians and German Christian leaders shows the danger of mixing religion with government. The photo on the left shows Christian worshippers of Christ and Nazism on the march in front of the Berlin Cathedral. SS guards stand at attention. The head of the march shows members in party and SA uniforms while pastors follow in the rear. Note the flags with the Christian cross with the swastika in the middle (also described as the Double Cross). .Rather interesting, isn't it G! Kinda puts to rest your theory that Nazis ain't Protestant. . [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: even untwis
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interestingly, both statements are true, else there's no way to account for (the) Bonhoeffer(/s}, Bro .. Nazis ain't Protestant || Many Protestants [became] Nazi[s].
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DAVEH: Do you consider yourself to be a Protestant, G? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ..(your) evidence suggests that Mormanism lacks focus--partic, disparages, manipulates the NT, partic against Protestants On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 12:14:02 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: you're realizg certain critiques gotta be focusd--eh? On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 10:05:54 -0800 Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: yes, its clear, Bro DAVEH: Seems only to be clear to those who are myopic, IMO. Nice play on words, G.I'm sure iz would be rightly proud of you! ;-) || -- ~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain six email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS.
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How come Hitler made a concordat with Pope Pius if what is written below is so? I've read that Hitler admired the structure of the rcc and that he organized his SS along the same lines. Also the rcc underground network helped many notorious Nazis escape to South America and other places. On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 21:51:24 -0800 Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: thus, Bro, Nazis ain't ProtestantDAVEH: Your logic is flawed on this, G, and you seem to be stuck in a box trying desperately to separate Nazism from Protestantism.When the Nazis seized power in 1933, the Protestant churches had suffered a decade of steep numerical decline; in that year, however, they began to gain members. For millions of German Protestants the Nazi regime signaled a revival of Christianity after the decadent, morally uncertain years of the Weimar Republic. Many Protestants, including pastors, became keen Nazi party members and officials. When, after 1937, relationships between the Protestant churches aim the Nazi state deteriorated and churchmen were dismissed from official posts, there was much disappointed protest.Catholicism, however, never appealed to the Nazis. (Hitler said on a number of occasions that he was nearer in spirit to Protestantism.) Principally this was because Catholicism was internationalist in outlook, while German Protestants were for the most part fiercely nationalist. But the Nazis's detestation of Rome derived also from their skewed notions about the papacy. The Vatican was, of course, a foreign power, which disqualified it from having any right of influence in insurgent Germany. It was also regarded as the culpable party in a centuries-old perversion of Christianity: materialist, luxurious and, above all, Jewish. (Hitler asserted a belief that all the most notorious Renaissance popes were Jews, the front men for the great Jewish conspiracy to achieve world domination.)...Interestingly, the paganists were a minority, much derided by Hitler and Goebbels, who remained nominal Catholics and paid church taxes to the endthe author claims Hitler was a lip serving Catholic, but yet is seems obvious that his heart was with Protestantism. The above site can be found at...http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1058/is_16_121/ai_n8702389Pictures you referred to can be found at...http://www.nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm...As you run down through the pictures, please note the crosses on the graves of the Nazis. From what I've heard promoted on TT a short time ago, those crosses represent Christians. (I suggested they represented people who had died.) Now, if you read further down the page...Mass meeting of the German Christian Movement 13 Nov.1933 A radical wing of German Lutheranism and the main Protestant branch supporting Nazi ideology, the German Christian Movement reconciled Christian doctrine with German nationalism and antisemitism...and Ludwig Müller, a Nazi sympathizer, and a candidate of Hitler, was elected to the position of Reich Bishop in 1933 as Hitler attempted to unite regional Protestant churches under Nazi control. Hitler did not practice separation of Church & State.Berlin, Germany, November 17, 1933you will notice a picture of LM. A few pictures later, you can see LM performing the Christian wedding of Goring, with Hitler as his best man. Shortly thereafter, you can imagine the influence Catholicism had on Hitler in his youth that failed to stick from his Mother's cemetery pictureHitler's mother's graveKlara Hitler was a pious Catholic mother who raised Hitler according to her beliefs.Hitler felt grief-stricken over his mother's death. She was buried alongside her husband in Linz, Austria. German soldiers here pay their respects to the grave in 1938.Note the Christian cross on her monument.so it becomes obvious that Hitler had roots in Catholicism that were merely catered to for political purposes. He seemed much more intent on focusing on Protestantism. As you get closer to the bottom, you can see pictures that reflectDeutsche Christen (German Christians)The Deutsche Christen (DC) became the voice of Nazi ideology within the Evangelical Church (the Religious Right of their day) and approved by Hitler. They proposed a church "Aryan paragraph" to prevent "non-Aryans" from becoming ministers or religious teachers. Most church leaders solidly supported the "Judenmission." Only a very few number of Christians opposed Nazism such as the "Confessing Christians" (a Church movement not recognized by the Protestant orthodoxy) headed by Dietrich Bonhoeffer. The support of Nazism by the majority of German Christians and German Christian leaders shows the danger of mixing religion with government. The ph
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IMO, to the extent that what you describe is historically accurate, this simply reflects what the church 'catholic' does with power. It (power) actually does corrupt. This is so throughout the history of the church. - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 01, 2006 06:59 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please How come Hitler made a concordat with Pope Pius if what is written below is so? I've read that Hitler admired the structure of the rcc and that he organized his SS along the same lines. Also the rcc underground network helped many notorious Nazis escape to South America and other places. On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 21:51:24 -0800 Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: thus, Bro, Nazis ain't ProtestantDAVEH: Your logic is flawed on this, G, and you seem to be stuck in a box trying desperately to separate Nazism from Protestantism.When the Nazis seized power in 1933, the Protestant churches had suffered a decade of steep numerical decline; in that year, however, they began to gain members. For millions of German Protestants the Nazi regime signaled a revival of Christianity after the decadent, morally uncertain years of the Weimar Republic. Many Protestants, including pastors, became keen Nazi party members and officials. When, after 1937, relationships between the Protestant churches aim the Nazi state deteriorated and churchmen were dismissed from official posts, there was much disappointed protest.Catholicism, however, never appealed to the Nazis. (Hitler said on a number of occasions that he was nearer in spirit to Protestantism.) Principally this was because Catholicism was internationalist in outlook, while German Protestants were for the most part fiercely nationalist. But the Nazis's detestation of Rome derived also from their skewed notions about the papacy. The Vatican was, of course, a foreign power, which disqualified it from having any right of influence in insurgent Germany. It was also regarded as the culpable party in a centuries-old perversion of Christianity: materialist, luxurious and, above all, Jewish. (Hitler asserted a belief that all the most notorious Renaissance popes were Jews, the front men for the great Jewish conspiracy to achieve world domination.)...Interestingly, the paganists were a minority, much derided by Hitler and Goebbels, who remained nominal Catholics and paid church taxes to the endthe author claims Hitler was a lip serving Catholic, but yet is seems obvious that his heart was with Protestantism. The above site can be found at...http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1058/is_16_121/ai_n8702389Pictures you referred to can be found at...http://www.nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm...As you run down through the pictures, please note the crosses on the graves of the Nazis. From what I've heard promoted on TT a short time ago, those crosses represent Christians. (I suggested they represented people who had died.) Now, if you read further down the page...Mass meeting of the German Christian Movement 13 Nov.1933 A radical wing of German Lutheranism and the main Protestant branch supporting Nazi ideology, the German Christian Movement reconciled Christian doctrine with German nationalism and antisemitism...and Ludwig Müller, a Nazi sympathizer, and a candidate of Hitler, was elected to the position of Reich Bishop in 1933 as Hitler attempted to unite regional Protestant churches under Nazi control. Hitler did not practice separation of Church & State.Berlin, Germany, November 17, 1933you will notice a picture of LM. A few pictures later, you can see LM performing the Christian wedding of Goring, with Hitler as his best man. Shortly thereafter, you can imagine the influence Catholicism had on Hitler in his youth that failed to stick from his Mother's cemetery pictureHitler's mother's graveKlara Hitler was a pious Catholic mother who raised Hitler according to her beliefs.Hitler felt grief-stricken over his mother's death. She was buried alongside her husband in Linz, Austria. German soldiers here pay their respects to the grave in 1938.Note the Christian cross on her monument.so it becomes obvious that Hitler had roots in Catholicism that were merely catered to for political purposes. He seemed much more intent on focusing on Protestantism. As you get closer to the bottom, you can see pictures that reflectDeutsche Christen (German Christians)The Deutsche Christen (DC) became t
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I know that this is a little sacry, but I think that I actually do understand the G Force. jd -- Original message -- From: Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You could be right. I will pretend to understand him too.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can almost hear Terry saying, "save the women and children !!" Perhaps we need to humor the one who is the maker of bats !!! jd -- Original message -- From: Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Don't pretend to understand himJohn. It just encourages him to keep writing answers to his own comments.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And therein is its limitation. Right? jd -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ..cultic-apostolic theory rules from the right of the right On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:31:58 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: in context, the essence of current compound/ed cultic-apostolic myth: "..I have been wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here." -- Izzy On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:17:52 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: myth (someone manufactured this explanation--Izzy cited other mythological reasons) On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:03:57 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:>
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DAVEH: What is scary, is that you would admit it! =-O [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know that this is a little sacry, but I think that I actually do understand the G Force. jd -- Original message -- From: Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You could be right. I will pretend to understand him too. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can almost hear Terry saying, "save the women and children !!" Perhaps we need to humor the one who is the maker of bats !!! jd -- Original message -- From: Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Don't pretend to understand himJohn. It just encourages him to keep writing answers to his own comments. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And therein is its limitation. Right? jd -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ..cultic-apostolic theory rules from the right of the right On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:31:58 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: in context, the essence of current compound/ed cultic-apostolic myth: "..I have been wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here." -- Izzy On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:17:52 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: myth (someone manufactured this explanation--Izzy cited other mythological reasons) On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:03:57 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: < upset by it that she wants to leave the list,>> -- ~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain six email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS.
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IFF you can understand, through listening, the lyrics of a Bob Dylan song, as he sounds now, then - Original Message - From: Dave To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 01, 2006 10:55 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please DAVEH: What is scary, is that you would admit it! =-O [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know that this is a little sacry, but I think that I actually do understand the G Force. jd -- Original message -- From: Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You could be right. I will pretend to understand him too.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can almost hear Terry saying, "save the women and children !!" Perhaps we need to humor the one who is the maker of bats !!! jd -- Original message -- From: Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Don't pretend to understand himJohn. It just encourages him to keep writing answers to his own comments.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And therein is its limitation. Right? jd -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ..cultic-apostolic theory rules from the right of the right On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:31:58 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: in context, the essence of current compound/ed cultic-apostolic myth: "..I have been wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here." -- Izzy On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:17:52 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: myth (someone manufactured this explanation--Izzy cited other mythological reasons) On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:03:57 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:<upset by it that she wants to leave the list,>> -- ~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain six email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS.
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How come Hitler made a concordat with Pope Pius if what is written below is so? DAVEH: For the same reasons he made non-aggression pacts with other European and Asian countriesIt gave him a measure of freedom to do dastardly things while the other guys were sleeping peacefully, thinking Hitler was not a threat to them. Hitler admired the structure of the rcc and that he organized his SS along the same lines. DAVEH: The author seemed to think otherwise... Catholicism, however, never appealed to the Nazis. (Hitler said on a number of occasions that he was nearer in spirit to Protestantism.) ..To me it seemed he gave lip service to the RCC to keep them from getting restless, so to speak. Then there is the diplomatic effect such a pact might give the RCC folks, both inside and outside Germany. In effect, he was marshaling forces that included large numbers of RCC troops who would be both allying with other RCC factions (viz., the Italian troops) to fight against RCC folks in the allied countries. Any goodwill gestures he could evoke before the conflict would be to his advantage during the conflict. Judy Taylor wrote: How come Hitler made a concordat with Pope Pius if what is written below is so? I've read that Hitler admired the structure of the rcc and that he organized his SS along the same lines. Also the rcc underground network helped many notorious Nazis escape to South America and other places. On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 21:51:24 -0800 Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: thus, Bro, Nazis ain't Protestant DAVEH: Your logic is flawed on this, G, and you seem to be stuck in a box trying desperately to separate Nazism from Protestantism. When the Nazis seized power in 1933, the Protestant churches had suffered a decade of steep numerical decline; in that year, however, they began to gain members. For millions of German Protestants the Nazi regime signaled a revival of Christianity after the decadent, morally uncertain years of the Weimar Republic. Many Protestants, including pastors, became keen Nazi party members and officials. When, after 1937, relationships between the Protestant churches aim the Nazi state deteriorated and churchmen were dismissed from official posts, there was much disappointed protest. Catholicism, however, never appealed to the Nazis. (Hitler said on a number of occasions that he was nearer in spirit to Protestantism.) Principally this was because Catholicism was internationalist in outlook, while German Protestants were for the most part fiercely nationalist. But the Nazis's detestation of Rome derived also from their skewed notions about the papacy. The Vatican was, of course, a foreign power, which disqualified it from having any right of influence in insurgent Germany. It was also regarded as the culpable party in a centuries-old perversion of Christianity: materialist, luxurious and, above all, Jewish. (Hitler asserted a belief that all the most notorious Renaissance popes were Jews, the front men for the great Jewish conspiracy to achieve world domination.) ...Interestingly, the paganists were a minority, much derided by Hitler and Goebbels, who remained nominal Catholics and paid church taxes to the end. ...the author claims Hitler was a lip serving Catholic, but yet is seems obvious that his heart was with Protestantism. The above site can be found at... http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1058/is_16_121/ai_n8702389 Pictures you referred to can be found at... http://www.nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm ...As you run down through the pictures, please note the crosses on the graves of the Nazis. From what I've heard promoted on TT a short time ago, those crosses represent Christians. (I suggested they represented people who had died.) Now, if you read further down the page... Mass meeting of the German Christian Movement 13 Nov.1933 A radical wing of German Lutheranism and the main Protestant branch supporting Nazi ideology, the German Christian Movement reconciled Christian doctrine with German nationalism and antisemitism. ..and Ludwig Müller, a Nazi sympathizer, and a candidate of Hitler, was elected to the position of Reich Bishop in 1933 as Hitler attempted to unite regional Protestant churches under Nazi control. Hitler did not practice separation of Church & State. Berlin, Germany, November 17, 1933. ...you will notice a picture of LM. A few pictures later, you can see LM performing the Christian wedding of Goring, with Hitler as his best man. Shortly thereafter, you can imagine the influence Catholicism had on Hitler in his youth that failed to stick from his Mother's cemetery picture Hitler's mother's grave Klara Hitler was a pious Catholic mother who raised Hitler according to her b
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!!News Flash :: Davidic update & prolepsis from the projected 'combat zone'!! "..I pursued my enemies and crushed them; I did not turn back till they were destroyed. I crushed them completely, and they could not rise; they fell beneath my feet. You armed me with strength for battle; you made my adversaries bow at my feet. You made my enemies turn their backs in flight, and I destroyed my foes. They cried for help, but there was no one to save them to the LORD, but he did not answer. I beat them as fine as the dust of the earth; I pounded and trampled them like mud in the streets..." (2Sam 22, NIV) On Sun, 1 Jan 2006 17:15:19 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, 1 Jan 2006 11:13:20 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [can you] understand, through listening, the lyrics of a Bob Dylan song, as he sounds now[?] ..His eyes were two slits that would make a snake proudWith a face that any painter would paint as he walked through the crowdWorshipping a god with the body of a woman well endowedAnd the head of a hyena Do I need your permission to turn the other cheek?If you can read my mind, why must I speak?No, I have heard nothing about the man that you seekAngelina.. In the valley of the giants where the stars and stripes explodeThe peaches they were sweet and the milk and honey flowedI was only following instructions when the judge sent me down the roadWith your subpoena When you cease to exist, then who will you blame?I've tried my best to love you, but I cannot play this gameYour best friend and my worst enemy is one and the sameAngelina.. There's a black Mercedes rollin' through the combat zoneYour servants are half dead; you're down to the boneTell me, tall man, where would you like to be overthrownMaybe down in Jerusalem or Argentina? She was stolen from her mother when she was three days oldNow her vengeance has been satisfied and her possessions have been soldHe's surrounded by God's angels and she's wearin' a blindfoldAnd so are you, Angelina.. ['He', un'blindfold'ed, says:] I see pieces of men marching; trying to take heaven by forceI can see the unknown rider, I can see the pale white horseIn God's truth tell me what you want, and you'll have it of courseJust step into the arena [directions home--g:)] Beat a path of retreat up them spiral staircasesPass the tree of smoke, pass the angel with four facesBegging God for mercy and weepin' in unholy placesAngelina..Oh, Angelina. Oh, AngelinaBob Dylan Copyright © 1981 Special Rider Music
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Read what followed this line, Gary. Izzy wrote: "I wonder why I have been wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here. The answer, of course, is that I dearly enjoy reading and sharing posts with the kindhearted Believers on TT. But the truth is, in real life I would never associate with the toxic people I find here. I don't need hateful, nasty people insulting me or my friends." And what was the post to which she was replying? The one where I was insulted. I consider myself to be Izzy's friend. Therefore, I conclude that this post by Lance was the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back. It is interesting that Izzy unsubscribed last year on Nov. 22. Perhaps it is a holiday thing with her. Thanksgiving last year. New Years this year. She probably receives many during the holiday season and does not have time for TT because she is busy loving others who appreciate her ministry and service. Perhaps some of us should be concerned that we are considered swine unworthy of pearls. Which of us are sheep and which are goats? Peace be with you.David Miller. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 10:31 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please in context, the essence of current compound/ed cultic-apostolic myth: "..I have been wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here." -- Izzy On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:17:52 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: myth (someone manufactured this explanation--Izzy cited other mythological reasons) On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:03:57 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:<upset by it that she wants to leave the list,>>
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YOU WERE NOT INSULTED, DAVIDM! You were simply
described. An _expression_ was employed that is no worse than 'brain fart'. Cool
it, oh defensive one!
- Original Message -
From:
David Miller
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: January 02, 2006 09:46
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe
please
Read what followed this line, Gary.
Izzy wrote:
"I wonder why I have been wasting my time throwing
pearls before swine here. The answer, of course, is that
I dearly enjoy reading and sharing posts with the kindhearted
Believers on TT. But the truth is, in real life I would never
associate with the toxic people I find here. I don't need
hateful,
nasty people insulting me or my friends."
And what was the post to which she was replying? The one where I
was insulted. I consider myself to be Izzy's friend. Therefore, I
conclude that this post by Lance was the proverbial straw that broke the
camel's back.
It is interesting that Izzy unsubscribed last year on Nov. 22.
Perhaps it is a holiday thing with her. Thanksgiving last year.
New Years this year. She probably receives many during the holiday
season and does not have time for TT because she is busy loving others who
appreciate her ministry and service. Perhaps some of us should be
concerned that we are considered swine unworthy of pearls. Which of us
are sheep and which are goats?
Peace be with you.David Miller.
- Original Message -
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 10:31
AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe
please
in context, the
essence of current compound/ed cultic-apostolic myth:
"..I have been
wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here." --
Izzy
On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:17:52 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
myth (someone
manufactured this explanation--Izzy cited other mythological
reasons)
On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:03:57 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:<upset by it that she wants to leave the list,>>
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You were simply described. DAVEH: Lance, may I ask you where you draw the line on an ad-hom? Is it possible describing somebody as a pompous ass to ever be an ad-hom in your opinion? Lance Muir wrote: YOU WERE NOT INSULTED, DAVIDM! You were simply described. An _expression_ was employed that is no worse than 'brain fart'. Cool it, oh defensive one! -- ~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain six email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS.
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How many times have we heard from right wingers that it is not ad hom if it i true!!?? jd -- Original message -- From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You were simply described.DAVEH: Lance, may I ask you where you draw the line on an ad-hom? Is it possible describing somebody as a pompous ass to ever be an ad-hom in your opinion? Lance Muir wrote: YOU WERE NOT INSULTED, DAVIDM! You were simply described. An _expression_ was employed that is no worse than 'brain fart'. Cool it, oh defensive one! -- ~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain six email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS.
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You tell us, John. How many times have you heard that from the right wingers? Perry From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org, TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 23:13:32 + How many times have we heard from right wingers that it is not ad hom if it i true!!?? jd -- Original message -- From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You were simply described. DAVEH: Lance, may I ask you where you draw the line on an ad-hom? Is it possible describing somebody as a pompous ass to ever be an ad-hom in your opinion? Lance Muir wrote: YOU WERE NOT INSULTED, DAVIDM! You were simply described. An expression was employed that is no worse than 'brain fart'. Cool it, oh defensive one! -- ~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain six email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
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I have lost count but it occurred on nearly every occasion that I was called a heretic or "just plain stupid." or a child of the devil.. jd -- Original message -- From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > You tell us, John. How many times have you heard that from the right > wingers? > > Perry > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org > >To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org, TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org > >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please > >Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 23:13:32 + > > > >How many times have we heard from right wingers that it is not ad hom if it > >i true!!?? > > > >jd > > > >-- Original message -- > >From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> >You were simply described. > > > >DAVEH: Lance, may I ask you where you draw the line on an ad-hom? Is it > >possible de scribing somebody as a pompous ass to ever be an ad-hom in your > >opinion? > > > >Lance Muir wrote: > >YOU WERE NOT INSULTED, DAVIDM! You were simply described. An _expression_ was > >employed that is no worse than 'brain fart'. Cool it, oh defensive one! > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > ~~~ > > Dave Hansen > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.langlitz.com > > ~~~ > > If you wish to receive > > things I find interesting, > > I maintain six email lists... > > JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, > > STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS. > > > -- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how > you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend > who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and > he will be subscribed.
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I think there was only one person who said it. Kevin, if I remember correctly, and I corrected him and told him that it was an ad hominem argument even if it was true. David M. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 6:21 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please I have lost count but it occurred on nearly every occasion that I was called a heretic or "just plain stupid." or a child of the devil.. jd -- Original message -- From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > You tell us, John. How many times have you heard that from the right > wingers? > > Perry > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org > >To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org, TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org > >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please > >Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 23:13:32 + > > > >How many times have we heard from right wingers that it is not ad hom if it > >i true!!?? > > > >jd > > > >-- Original message -- > >From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> >You were simply described. > > > >DAVEH: Lance, may I ask you where you draw the line on an ad-hom? Is it > >possible de scribing somebody as a pompous ass to ever be an ad-hom in your > >opinion? > > > >Lance Muir wrote: > >YOU WERE NOT INSULTED, DAVIDM! You were simply described. An _expression_ was > >employed that is no worse than 'brain fart'. Cool it, oh defensive one! > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > ~~~ > > Dave Hansen > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.langlitz.com > > ~~~ > > If you wish to receive > > things I find interesting, > > I maintain six email lists... > > JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, > > STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS. > > > -- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how > you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend > who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and > he will be subscribed.
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Nice try. jd -- Original message -- From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I think there was only one person who said it. Kevin, if I remember correctly, and I corrected him and told him that it was an ad hominem argument even if it was true. David M. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 6:21 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please I have lost count but it occurred on nearly every occasion that I was called a heretic or "just plain stupid." or a child of the devil.. jd -- Original message -- From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > You tell us, John. How many times have you heard that from the right > wingers? > > Perry > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org > >To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org, TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org > >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please > >Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 23:13:32 + > > > >How many times have we heard from right wingers that it is not ad hom if it > >i true!!?? > > > >jd > > > >-- Original message -- > >From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> >You were simply de scribed. > > > >DAVEH: Lance, may I ask you where you draw the line on an ad-hom? Is it > >possible de scribing somebody as a pompous ass to ever be an ad-hom in your > >opinion? > > > >Lance Muir wrote: > >YOU WERE NOT INSULTED, DAVIDM! You were simply described. An _expression_ was > >employed that is no worse than 'brain fart'. Cool it, oh defensive one! > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > ~~~ > > Dave Hansen > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.langlitz.com > > ~~~ > > If you wish to receive > > things I find interesting, > > I maintain six email lists... > > JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, > > STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS. > > > -- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how > you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend > who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and > he will be subscribed.
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Why is not her reference to Lance, G and myself not included in this reference? We are the swine -- but, hey, if its true, it ain't not one ofthem there ad harmonica things. jd -- Original message -- From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Read what followed this line, Gary. Izzy wrote: "I wonder why I have been wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here. The answer, of course, is that I dearly enjoy reading and sharing posts with the kindhearted Believers on TT. But the truth is, in real life I would never associate with the toxic people I find here. I don't need hateful, nasty people insulting me or my friends." And what was the post to which she was replying? The one where I was insulted. I consider myself to be Izzy's friend. Therefore, I conclude that this post by Lance was the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back. It is interesting that Izzy unsubscribed last year on Nov. 22. Perhaps it is a holiday thing with her. Thanksgiving last year. New Years this year. She probably receives many during the holiday season and does not have time for TT because she is busy loving others who appreciate her ministry and service. Perhaps some of us should be concerned that we are considered swine unworthy of pearls. Which of us are sheep and which are goats? Peace be with you.David Miller. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 10:31 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please in context, the essence of current compound/ed cultic-apostolic myth: "..I have been wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here." -- Izzy On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:17:52 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: myth (someone manufactured this explanation--Izzy cited other mythological reasons) On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:03:57 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:<upset by it that she wants to leave the list,>>
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I draw the line, Dave, where that which is said does not describe the one being spoken to. 'Pompous ass' is pretty mild stuff. - Original Message - From: Dave To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 02, 2006 17:52 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please You were simply described.DAVEH: Lance, may I ask you where you draw the line on an ad-hom? Is it possible describing somebody as a pompous ass to ever be an ad-hom in your opinion? Lance Muir wrote: YOU WERE NOT INSULTED, DAVIDM! You were simply described. An _expression_ was employed that is no worse than 'brain fart'. Cool it, oh defensive one! -- ~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain six email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS.
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'even if it was true', DM? Please explain. - Original Message - From: David Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 02, 2006 18:33 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please I think there was only one person who said it. Kevin, if I remember correctly, and I corrected him and told him that it was an ad hominem argument even if it was true. David M. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 6:21 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please I have lost count but it occurred on nearly every occasion that I was called a heretic or "just plain stupid." or a child of the devil.. jd -- Original message -- From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > You tell us, John. How many times have you heard that from the right > wingers? > > Perry > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org > >To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org, TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org > >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please > >Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 23:13:32 + > > > >How many times have we heard from right wingers that it is not ad hom if it > >i true!!?? > > > >jd > > > >-- Original message -- > >From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> >You were simply described. > > > >DAVEH: Lance, may I ask you where you draw the line on an ad-hom? Is it > >possible de scribing somebody as a pompous ass to ever be an ad-hom in your > >opinion? > > > >Lance Muir wrote: > >YOU WERE NOT INSULTED, DAVIDM! You were simply described. An _expression_ was > >employed that is no worse than 'brain fart'. Cool it, oh defensive one! > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > ~~~ > > Dave Hansen > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.langlitz.com > > ~~~ > > If you wish to receive > > things I find interesting, > > I maintain six email lists... > > JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, > > STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS. > > > -- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how > you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend > who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and > he will be subscribed.
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cd: Perhaps the Christians on this site don't feel that much is being accomplished-If you haven't noticed the mockery for those who speak truth is getting intense as Satan wills. Only a foolish man drives away the cure for his illness. - Original Message - From: David Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/2/2006 9:46:20 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please Read what followed this line, Gary. Izzy wrote: "I wonder why I have been wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here. The answer, of course, is that I dearly enjoy reading and sharing posts with the kindhearted Believers on TT. But the truth is, in real life I would never associate with the toxic people I find here. I don't need hateful, nasty people insulting me or my friends." And what was the post to which she was replying? The one where I was insulted. I consider myself to be Izzy's friend. Therefore, I conclude that this post by Lance was the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back. It is interesting that Izzy unsubscribed last year on Nov. 22. Perhaps it is a holiday thing with her. Thanksgiving last year. New Years this year. She probably receives many during the holiday season and does not have time for TT because she is busy loving others who appreciate her ministry and service. Perhaps some of us should be concerned that we are considered swine unworthy of pearls. Which of us are sheep and which are goats? Peace be with you.David Miller. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 10:31 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please in context, the essence of current compound/ed cultic-apostolic myth: "..I have been wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here." -- Izzy On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:17:52 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: myth (someone manufactured this explanation--Izzy cited other mythological reasons) On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:03:57 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:<upset by it that she wants to leave the list,>>
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Are you PERMITTED to call DavidM a FOOLish man? Mr. Moderator please intervene before Dean is out of control! - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 03, 2006 16:22 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please cd: Perhaps the Christians on this site don't feel that much is being accomplished-If you haven't noticed the mockery for those who speak truth is getting intense as Satan wills. Only a foolish man drives away the cure for his illness. - Original Message - From: David Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/2/2006 9:46:20 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please Read what followed this line, Gary. Izzy wrote: "I wonder why I have been wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here. The answer, of course, is that I dearly enjoy reading and sharing posts with the kindhearted Believers on TT. But the truth is, in real life I would never associate with the toxic people I find here. I don't need hateful, nasty people insulting me or my friends." And what was the post to which she was replying? The one where I was insulted. I consider myself to be Izzy's friend. Therefore, I conclude that this post by Lance was the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back. It is interesting that Izzy unsubscribed last year on Nov. 22. Perhaps it is a holiday thing with her. Thanksgiving last year. New Years this year. She probably receives many during the holiday season and does not have time for TT because she is busy loving others who appreciate her ministry and service. Perhaps some of us should be concerned that we are considered swine unworthy of pearls. Which of us are sheep and which are goats? Peace be with you.David Miller. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 10:31 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please in context, the essence of current compound/ed cultic-apostolic myth: "..I have been wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here." -- Izzy On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:17:52 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: myth (someone manufactured this explanation--Izzy cited other mythological reasons) On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:03:57 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:<upset by it that she wants to leave the list,>>
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Keep in mind, Dean, that DM's version of Linda's post is a cut and paste version. He leaves out the part that makes Linda a mockery of her own authorship. jd -- Original message -- From: "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cd: Perhaps the Christians on this site don't feel that much is being accomplished-If you haven't noticed the mockery for those who speak truth is getting intense as Satan wills. Only a foolish man drives away the cure for his illness. - Original Message - From: David Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/2/2006 9:46:20 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please Read what followed this line, Gary. Izzy wrote: "I wonder why I have been wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here. The answer, of course, is that I dearly enjoy reading and sharing posts with the kindhearted Believers on TT. But the truth is, in real life I would never associate with the toxic people I find here. I don't need hateful, nasty people insulting me or my friends." And what was the post to which she was replying? The one where I was insulted. I consider myself to be Izzy's friend. Therefore, I conclude that this post by Lance was the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back. It is interesting that Izzy unsubscribed last year on Nov. 22. Perhaps it is a holiday thing with her. Thanksgiving last year. New Years this year. She probably receives many during the holiday season and does not have time for TT because she is busy loving others who appreciate her ministry and service. Perhaps some of us should be concerned that we are considered swine unworthy of pearls. Which of us are sheep and which are goats? Peace be with you.David Miller. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 10:31 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please in context, the essence of current compound/ed cultic-apostolic myth: "..I have been wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here." -- Izzy On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:17:52 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: myth (someone manufactured this explanation--Izzy cited other mythological reasons) On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:03:57 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:<upset by it that she wants to leave the list,>>
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cd: Only a foolish man twists other peoples words to their own destruction (ie. see false wittiness)-it has been my experience that sodomites (ie. homo's) do this as a habit. - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/3/2006 5:08:54 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please Are you PERMITTED to call DavidM a FOOLish man? Mr. Moderator please intervene before Dean is out of control! - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 03, 2006 16:22 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please cd: Perhaps the Christians on this site don't feel that much is being accomplished-If you haven't noticed the mockery for those who speak truth is getting intense as Satan wills. Only a foolish man drives away the cure for his illness. - Original Message - From: David Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/2/2006 9:46:20 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please Read what followed this line, Gary. Izzy wrote: "I wonder why I have been wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here. The answer, of course, is that I dearly enjoy reading and sharing posts with the kindhearted Believers on TT. But the truth is, in real life I would never associate with the toxic people I find here. I don't need hateful, nasty people insulting me or my friends." And what was the post to which she was replying? The one where I was insulted. I consider myself to be Izzy's friend. Therefore, I conclude that this post by Lance was the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back. It is interesting that Izzy unsubscribed last year on Nov. 22. Perhaps it is a holiday thing with her. Thanksgiving last year. New Years this year. She probably receives many during the holiday season and does not have time for TT because she is busy loving others who appreciate her ministry and service. Perhaps some of us should be concerned that we are considered swine unworthy of pearls. Which of us are sheep and which are goats? Peace be with you.David Miller. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 10:31 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please in context, the essence of current compound/ed cultic-apostolic myth: "..I have been wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here." -- Izzy On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:17:52 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: myth (someone manufactured this explanation--Izzy cited other mythological reasons) On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:03:57 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:<upset by it that she wants to leave the list,>>
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cd: John I very much doubt that Linda is of that nature. - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/3/2006 6:56:58 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please Keep in mind, Dean, that DM's version of Linda's post is a cut and paste version. He leaves out the part that makes Linda a mockery of her own authorship. jd -- Original message -- From: "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cd: Perhaps the Christians on this site don't feel that much is being accomplished-If you haven't noticed the mockery for those who speak truth is getting intense as Satan wills. Only a foolish man drives away the cure for his illness. - Original Message - From: David Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/2/2006 9:46:20 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please Read what followed this line, Gary. Izzy wrote: "I wonder why I have been wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here. The answer, of course, is that I dearly enjoy reading and sharing posts with the kindhearted Believers on TT. But the truth is, in real life I would never associate with the toxic people I find here. I don't need hateful, nasty people insulting me or my friends." And what was the post to which she was replying? The one where I was insulted. I consider myself to be Izzy's friend. Therefore, I conclude that this post by Lance was the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back. It is interesting that Izzy unsubscribed last year on Nov. 22. Perhaps it is a holiday thing with her. Thanksgiving last year. New Years this year. She probably receives many during the holiday season and does not have time for TT because she is busy loving others who appreciate her ministry and service. Perhaps some of us should be concerned that we are considered swine unworthy of pearls. Which of us are sheep and which are goats? Peace be with you.David Miller. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 10:31 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please in context, the essence of current compound/ed cultic-apostolic myth: "..I have been wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here." -- Izzy On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:17:52 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: myth (someone manufactured this explanation--Izzy cited other mythological reasons) On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:03:57 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:<upset by it that she wants to leave the list,>>
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Every person, Dean, is of that nature. (including Christians) I assume that (the Christian part) would include YOU? Have you been so little time on earth among believers that you've failed to notice this reality? I've always believed, virtually of course, in the utter genuineness of Linda's Christian character (along with the other TT participants that constitute the Christian contingent on TT). I'd say to you what I said to DM, Dean. Review her posts for the last year for 'conduct unbecoming'. One does not have to look too hard. - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 04, 2006 06:52 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please cd: John I very much doubt that Linda is of that nature. - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/3/2006 6:56:58 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please Keep in mind, Dean, that DM's version of Linda's post is a cut and paste version. He leaves out the part that makes Linda a mockery of her own authorship. jd -- Original message -- From: "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cd: Perhaps the Christians on this site don't feel that much is being accomplished-If you haven't noticed the mockery for those who speak truth is getting intense as Satan wills. Only a foolish man drives away the cure for his illness. - Original Message - From: David Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/2/2006 9:46:20 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please Read what followed this line, Gary. Izzy wrote: "I wonder why I have been wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here. The answer, of course, is that I dearly enjoy reading and sharing posts with the kindhearted Believers on TT. But the truth is, in real life I would never associate with the toxic people I find here. I don't need hateful, nasty people insulting me or my friends." And what was the post to which she was replying? The one where I was insulted. I consider myself to be Izzy's friend. Therefore, I conclude that this post by Lance was the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back. It is interesting that Izzy unsubscribed last year on Nov. 22. Perhaps it is a holiday thing with her. Thanksgiving last year. New Years this year. She probably receives many during the holiday season and does not have time for TT because she is busy loving others who appreciate her ministry and service. Perhaps some of us should be concerned that we are considered swine unworthy of pearls. Which of us are sheep and which are goats? Peace be with you.David Miller. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 10:31 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please in context, the essence of current compound/ed cultic-apostolic myth: "..I have been wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here." -- Izzy On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:17:52 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: myth (someone manufactured this explanation--Izzy cited other mythological reasons) On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:03:57 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:<upset by it that she wants to leave the list,>>
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Both you and DM appear somewhat preoccupied with
'sodomites' (ie. homo's). I do trust that it's not a Freudian slip on the part
of either of you. Say it ain't so, Joe!
- Original Message -
From:
Dean
Moore
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: January 04, 2006 06:49
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe
please
cd: Only a foolish man twists other peoples words to their own
destruction (ie. see false wittiness)-it has been my experience that
sodomites (ie. homo's) do this as a habit.
- Original Message -
From:
Lance
Muir
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 1/3/2006 5:08:54 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe
please
Are you PERMITTED to call DavidM a FOOLish man? Mr.
Moderator please intervene before Dean is out of control!
- Original Message -
From:
Dean
Moore
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: January 03, 2006 16:22
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe
please
cd: Perhaps the Christians on this site don't feel that much is being
accomplished-If you haven't noticed the mockery for those who speak truth
is getting intense as Satan wills. Only a foolish man drives away the cure
for his illness.
- Original Message -
From:
David
Miller
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 1/2/2006 9:46:20 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]
Unsubscribe please
Read what followed this line, Gary.
Izzy wrote:
"I wonder why I have been wasting my time throwing
pearls before swine here. The answer, of course, is that
I dearly enjoy reading and sharing posts with the kindhearted
Believers on TT. But the truth is, in real life I would never
associate with the toxic people I find here. I don't need
hateful,
nasty people insulting me or my friends."
And what was the post to which she was replying? The one
where I was insulted. I consider myself to be Izzy's friend.
Therefore, I conclude that this post by Lance was the proverbial straw
that broke the camel's back.
It is interesting that Izzy unsubscribed last year on Nov.
22. Perhaps it is a holiday thing with her. Thanksgiving
last year. New Years this year. She probably receives many
during the holiday season and does not have time for TT because she is
busy loving others who appreciate her ministry and service.
Perhaps some of us should be concerned that we are considered swine
unworthy of pearls. Which of us are sheep and which are
goats?
Peace be with you.David Miller.
- Original Message -
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005
10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]
Unsubscribe please
in
context, the essence of current compound/ed cultic-apostolic myth:
"..I have
been wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here." --
Izzy
On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:17:52 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
myth
(someone manufactured this explanation--Izzy cited other
mythological reasons)
On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:03:57 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:<upset by it that she wants to leave the list,>>
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- Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/4/2006 7:01:56 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please Every person, Dean, is of that nature. (including Christians) I assume that (the Christian part) would include YOU? Have you been so little time on earth among believers that you've failed to notice this reality? I've always believed, virtually of course, in the utter genuineness of Linda's Christian character (along with the other TT participants that constitute the Christian contingent on TT). I'd say to you what I said to DM, Dean. Review her posts for the last year for 'conduct unbecoming'. One does not have to look too hard. cd: Lance every Christian has to deal with choices of right or wrong on a daily basis and sometime we don't always make the right choices (which I do often)-but I will only judge according to biblical parameters which are: Is there sin present of a commandment nature? If so my choice then is to rebuke with love or -if ignored -a stronger rebuke.In either case once repentance is shown then I am to show that person a high degree of love.When making that decision about a fellow Christian they must be given every benefit of the doubt as too falsely accuse one of Christ's is walking on dangerous ground. This is why St. Paul stated that if eating meat offended his brother then he would never eat meat again-as not to offend.I see no sin in Izzy-I see a full sister that I love.Lance have you reviewed your posts for the last year for "conduct unbecoming"? I personally think we are all in for a whipping of chastisement nature. - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 04, 2006 06:52 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please cd: John I very much doubt that Linda is of that nature. - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/3/2006 6:56:58 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please Keep in mind, Dean, that DM's version of Linda's post is a cut and paste version. He leaves out the part that makes Linda a mockery of her own authorship. jd -- Original message -- From: "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cd: Perhaps the Christians on this site don't feel that much is being accomplished-If you haven't noticed the mockery for those who speak truth is getting intense as Satan wills. Only a foolish man drives away the cure for his illness. - Original Message - From: David Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/2/2006 9:46:20 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please Read what followed this line, Gary. Izzy wrote: "I wonder why I have been wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here. The answer, of course, is that I dearly enjoy reading and sharing posts with the kindhearted Believers on TT. But the truth is, in real life I would never associate with the toxic people I find here. I don't need hateful, nasty people insulting me or my friends." And what was the post to which she was replying? The one where I was insulted. I consider myself to be Izzy's friend. Therefore, I conclude that this post by Lance was the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back. It is interesting that Izzy unsubscribed last year on Nov. 22. Perhaps it is a holiday thing with her. Thanksgiving last year. New Years this year. She probably receives many during the holiday season and does not have time for TT because she is busy loving others who appreciate her ministry and service. Perhaps some of us should be concerned that we are considered swine unworthy of pearls. Which of us are sheep and which are goats? Peace be with you.David Miller. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 10:31 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please in context, the essence of current compound/ed cultic-apostolic myth: "..I have been wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here." -- Izzy On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:17:52 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: myth (someone manufactured this explanation--Izzy cited other mythological reasons) On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:03:57 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:<upset by it that she wants to leave the list,>>
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- Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/4/2006 7:04:20 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please Both you and DM appear somewhat preoccupied with 'sodomites' (ie. homo's). I do trust that it's not a Freudian slip on the part of either of you. Say it ain't so, Joe! cd: One would have to walk where we have to understand our relationship with sodomites-else one will never believe our incredible story.I am not a Sodomite or a "Joe" :-) How about you? - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 04, 2006 06:49 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please cd: Only a foolish man twists other peoples words to their own destruction (ie. see false wittiness)-it has been my experience that sodomites (ie. homo's) do this as a habit. - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/3/2006 5:08:54 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please Are you PERMITTED to call DavidM a FOOLish man? Mr. Moderator please intervene before Dean is out of control! - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 03, 2006 16:22 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please cd: Perhaps the Christians on this site don't feel that much is being accomplished-If you haven't noticed the mockery for those who speak truth is getting intense as Satan wills. Only a foolish man drives away the cure for his illness. - Original Message - From: David Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/2/2006 9:46:20 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please Read what followed this line, Gary. Izzy wrote: "I wonder why I have been wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here. The answer, of course, is that I dearly enjoy reading and sharing posts with the kindhearted Believers on TT. But the truth is, in real life I would never associate with the toxic people I find here. I don't need hateful, nasty people insulting me or my friends." And what was the post to which she was replying? The one where I was insulted. I consider myself to be Izzy's friend. Therefore, I conclude that this post by Lance was the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back. It is interesting that Izzy unsubscribed last year on Nov. 22. Perhaps it is a holiday thing with her. Thanksgiving last year. New Years this year. She probably receives many during the holiday season and does not have time for TT because she is busy loving others who appreciate her ministry and service. Perhaps some of us should be concerned that we are considered swine unworthy of pearls. Which of us are sheep and which are goats? Peace be with you.David Miller. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 10:31 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please in context, the essence of current compound/ed cultic-apostolic myth: "..I have been wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here." -- Izzy On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:17:52 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: myth (someone manufactured this explanation--Izzy cited other mythological reasons) On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:03:57 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:<upset by it that she wants to leave the list,>>
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-- Original message -- From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Both you and DM appear somewhat preoccupied with 'sodomites' (ie. homo's). I do trust that it's not a Freudian slip on the part of either of you. Say it ain't so, Joe! - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 04, 2006 06:49 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please cd: Only a foolish man twists other peoples words to their own destruction (ie. see false wittiness)-it has been my experience that sodomites (ie. homo's) do this as a habit. - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/3/2006 5:08:54 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please Are you PERMITTED to call DavidM a FOOLish man? Mr. Moderator please intervene before Dean is out of control! - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 03, 2006 16:22 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please cd: Perhaps the Christians on this site don't feel that much is being accomplished-If you haven't noticed the mockery for those who speak truth is getting intense as Satan wills. Only a foolish man drives away the cure for his illness. - Original Message - From: David Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/2/2006 9:46:20 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please Read what followed this line, Gary. Izzy wrote: "I wonder why I have been wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here. The answer, of course, is that I dearly enjoy reading and sharing posts with the kindhearted Believers on TT. But the truth is, in real life I would never associate with the toxic people I find here. I don't need hateful, nasty people insulting me or my friends." And what was the post to which she was replying? The one where I was insulted. I consider myself to be Izzy's friend. Therefore, I conclude that this post by Lance was the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back. It is interesting that Izzy unsubscribed last year on Nov. 22. Perhaps it is a holiday thing with her. Thanksgiving last year. New Years this year. She probably receives many during the holiday season and does not have time for TT because she is busy loving others who appreciate her ministry and service. Perhaps some of us should be concerned that we are considered swine unworthy of pearls. Which of us are sheep and which are goats? Peace be with you.David Miller. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 10:31 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please in context, the essence of current compound/ed cultic-apostolic myth: "..I have been wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here." -- Izzy On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:17:52 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: myth (someone manufactured this explanation--Izzy cited other mythological reasons) On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:03:57 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:<upset by it that she wants to leave the list,>>
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I received the package today !!. Wow. The series from Victor Shepherd looks great. Theology of the Person, taught by a pastor !! Excitement !! I have to admit that I am not doing much tonight. USC v Texas is the assignment for the evening. I have to build a fire, finish cooking a home-made chicken pot pie, and help coach the Trojans to victory. jd Looking for that explanation, Dean. Looked like an insult to me a really agressive one, at that. -- Original message -- From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Both you and DM appear somewhat preoccupied with 'sodomites' (ie. homo's). I do trust that it's not a Freudian slip on the part of either of you. Say it ain't so, Joe! - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 04, 2006 06:49 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please cd: Only a foolish man twists other peoples words to their own destruction (ie. see false wittiness)-it has been my experience that sodomites (ie. homo's) do this as a habit. - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/3/2006 5:08:54 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please Are you PERMITTED to call DavidM a FOOLish man? Mr. Moderator please intervene before Dean is out of control! - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 03, 2006 16:22 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please cd: Perhaps the Christians on this site don't feel that much is being accomplished-If you haven't noticed the mockery for those who speak truth is getting intense as Satan wills. Only a foolish man drives away the cure for his illness. - Original Message - From: David Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/2/2006 9:46:20 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please Read what followed this line, Gary. Izzy wrote: "I wonder why I have been wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here. The answer, of course, is that I dearly enjoy reading and sharing posts with the kindhearted Believers on TT. But the truth is, in real life I would never associate with the toxic people I find here. I don't need hateful, nasty people insulting me or my friends." And what was the post to which she was replying? The one where I was insulted. I consider myself to be Izzy's friend. Therefore, I conclude that this post by Lance was the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back. It is interesting that Izzy unsubscribed last year on Nov. 22. Perhaps it is a holiday thing with her. Thanksgiving last year. New Years this year. She probably receives many during the holiday season and does not have time for TT because she is busy loving others who appreciate her ministry and service. Perhaps some of us should be concerned that we are considered swine unworthy of pearls. Which of us are sheep and which are goats? Peace be with you.David Miller. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 10:31 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please in context, the essence of current compound/ed cultic-apostolic myth: "..I have been wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here." -- Izzy On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:17:52 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: myth (someone manufactured this explanation--Izzy cited other mythological reasons) On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:03:57 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:<upset by it that she wants to leave the list,>>
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Perry wrote: Dave, in your temple ceremony, who does it depict Satan paying to preach his message? Then Dean wrote: A Baptist Preacher/Pastor as JD is. Then John wrote: Looking for that explanation, Dean. Looked like an insult to me a really agressive one, at that. Now, Perry comments: John, I did not see an insult in what Dean wrote. All he is saying is that the one being to paid to preach is "A Baptist Preacher/Pastor as JD is [a preacher/pastor]." No need to be so sensitive. I really do not think Dean meant anything by it. Perry -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
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DAVEH: FWIW...While it may be mild, it strikes me as being in the
realm of an ad-hom. And, whether or not it is true..I do no see it
as pertinent to whether or not it is an ad-hom. However
Lance..I've made similar errors of judgment in the past, so I
probably should not be the one to point out yours.
Lance Muir wrote:
I draw the line, Dave, where that
which is said does not describe the one being spoken to. 'Pompous ass'
is pretty mild stuff.
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You were simply described.
DAVEH: Lance, may I ask you where you draw the line on an ad-hom? Is
it possible describing somebody as a pompous ass to ever be an
ad-hom in your opinion?
Lance Muir wrote:
YOU WERE NOT INSULTED, DAVIDM! You
were simply described. An _expression_ was employed that is no worse
than 'brain fart'. Cool it, oh defensive one!
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Conclusion...eh? People, understandably, intervene on behalf of those for whom they care. Family members may speak harshly, on occasion, to one another. These same family members may not permit the same liberty to non-family members. Therefore, DM should appreciate you, one whome he apparently sees as a family member, speaking on his behalf. - Original Message - From: Dave Hansen To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 05, 2006 01:51 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please DAVEH: FWIW...While it may be mild, it strikes me as being in the realm of an ad-hom. And, whether or not it is true..I do no see it as pertinent to whether or not it is an ad-hom. However Lance..I've made similar errors of judgment in the past, so I probably should not be the one to point out yours.Lance Muir wrote: I draw the line, Dave, where that which is said does not describe the one being spoken to. 'Pompous ass' is pretty mild stuff. - Original Message - From: Dave To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 02, 2006 17:52 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please You were simply described.DAVEH: Lance, may I ask you where you draw the line on an ad-hom? Is it possible describing somebody as a pompous ass to ever be an ad-hom in your opinion? Lance Muir wrote: YOU WERE NOT INSULTED, DAVIDM! You were simply described. An _expression_ was employed that is no worse than 'brain fart'. Cool it, oh defensive one! -- ~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain six email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS.
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> [Original Message] > From: Charles Perry Locke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Date: 1/4/2006 9:25:15 PM > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please > > > >>Perry wrote: > >>>Dave, in your temple ceremony, who does it depict Satan paying to preach > >>>his message? > > >Then Dean wrote: > >>A Baptist Preacher/Pastor as JD is. > > Then John wrote: > >Looking for that explanation, Dean. Looked like an insult to me a > >really agressive one, at that. > > Now, Perry comments: > > John, I did not see an insult in what Dean wrote. All he is saying is that > the one being to paid to preach is "A Baptist Preacher/Pastor as JD is [a > preacher/pastor]." > > No need to be so sensitive. I really do not think Dean meant anything by it. > > Perry cd: I'm not sure what he is even talking about? > > > -- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
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- Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/4/2006 9:13:13 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please I received the package today !!. Wow. The series from Victor Shepherd looks great. Theology of the Person, taught by a pastor !! Excitement !! I have to admit that I am not doing much tonight. USC v Texas is the assignment for the evening. I have to build a fire, finish cooking a home-made chicken pot pie, and help coach the Trojans to victory. jd Looking for that explanation, Dean. Looked like an insult to me a really agressive one, at that. cd: And what explanation are you looking for? -- Original message -- From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Both you and DM appear somewhat preoccupied with 'sodomites' (ie. homo's). I do trust that it's not a Freudian slip on the part of either of you. Say it ain't so, Joe! - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 04, 2006 06:49 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please cd: Only a foolish man twists other peoples words to their own destruction (ie. see false wittiness)-it has been my experience that sodomites (ie. homo's) do this as a habit. - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/3/2006 5:08:54 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please Are you PERMITTED to call DavidM a FOOLish man? Mr. Moderator please intervene before Dean is out of control! - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 03, 2006 16:22 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please cd: Perhaps the Christians on this site don't feel that much is being accomplished-If you haven't noticed the mockery for those who speak truth is getting intense as Satan wills. Only a foolish man drives away the cure for his illness. - Original Message - From: David Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/2/2006 9:46:20 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please Read what followed this line, Gary. Izzy wrote: "I wonder why I have been wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here. The answer, of course, is that I dearly enjoy reading and sharing posts with the kindhearted Believers on TT. But the truth is, in real life I would never associate with the toxic people I find here. I don't need hateful, nasty people insulting me or my friends." And what was the post to which she was replying? The one where I was insulted. I consider myself to be Izzy's friend. Therefore, I conclude that this post by Lance was the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back. It is interesting that Izzy unsubscribed last year on Nov. 22. Perhaps it is a holiday thing with her. Thanksgiving last year. New Years this year. She probably receives many during the holiday season and does not have time for TT because she is busy loving others who appreciate her ministry and service. Perhaps some of us should be concerned that we are considered swine unworthy of pearls. Which of us are sheep and which are goats? Peace be with you.David Miller. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 10:31 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please in context, the essence of current compound/ed cultic-apostolic myth: "..I have been wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here." -- Izzy On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:17:52 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: myth (someone manufactured this explanation--Izzy cited other mythological reasons) On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:03:57 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:<upset by it that she wants to leave the list,>>
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Never mind. -- Original message -- From: "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/4/2006 9:13:13 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please I received the package today !!. Wow. The series from Victor Shepherd looks great. Theology of the Person, taught by a pastor !! Excitement !! I have to admit that I am not doing much tonight. USC v Texas is the assignment for the evening. I have to build a fire, finish cooking a home-made chicken pot pie, and help coach the Trojans to victory. jd Looking for that explanation, Dean. Looked like an insult to me a really agressive one, at that. cd: And what explanation are you looking for? -- Original message -- From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Both you and DM appear somewhat preoccupied with 'sodomites' (ie. homo's). I do trust that it's not a Freudian slip on the part of either of you. Say it ain't so, Joe! - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 04, 2006 06:49 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please cd: Only a foolish man twists other peoples words to their own destruction (ie. see false wittiness)-it has been my experience that sodomites (ie. homo's) do this as a habit. - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/3/2006 5:08:54 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please Are you PERMITTED to call DavidM a FOOLish man? Mr. Moderator please intervene before Dean is out of control! - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 03, 2006 16:22 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please cd: Perhaps the Christians on this site don't feel that much is being accomplished-If you haven't noticed the mockery for those who speak truth is getting intense as Satan wills. Only a foolish man drives away the cure for his illness. - Original Message - From: David Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/2/2006 9:46:20 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please Read what followed this line, Gary. Izzy wrote: "I wonder why I have been wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here. The answer, of course, is that I dearly enjoy reading and sharing posts with the kindhearted Believers on TT. But the truth is, in real life I would never associate with the toxic people I find here. I don't need hateful, nasty people insulting me or my friends." And what was the post to which she was replying? The one where I was insulted. I consider myself to be Izzy's friend. Therefore, I conclude that this post by Lance was the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back. It is interesting that Izzy unsubscribed last year on Nov. 22. Perhaps it is a holiday thing with her. Thanksgiving last year. New Years this year. She probably receives many during the holiday season and does not have time for TT because she is busy loving others who appreciate her ministry and service. Perhaps some of us should be concerned that we are considered swine unworthy of pearls. Which of us are sheep and which are goats? Peace be with you.David Miller. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 10:31 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please in context, the essence of current compound/ed cultic-apostolic myth: "..I have been wasting my time throwing pearls before swine here." -- Izzy On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:17:52 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: myth (someone manufactured this explanation--Izzy cited other mythological reasons) On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:03:57 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:<upset by it that she wants to leave the list,>>
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People, understandably, intervene on behalf of those for whom they care. DAVEH: Which is why I'm chatting with you about this, Lance. Family members may speak harshly, on occasion, to one another DAVEH: I would like to think that fact does not justify its continuation. These same family members may not permit the same liberty to non-family members DAVEH: I've certainly mentioned my observation of a double standard in TT before. Though I let it justify my subsequent posts, in retrospect I regret having made that justification, as it lowered myself, rather than lifted anotheras I think the Lord would preferred. DM should appreciate you, one whome he apparently sees as a family member, speaking on his behalf. DAVEH: I suspect DM appreciates and loves each and every TTer for a variety of reasons, each for perhaps a different reason. Being the black sheep of TT, I doubt that I really fit into anybody's family here..but I don't think DM would want to exclude me for being different, so to speak. Though one does not necessarily have to appreciate another, IMHO.one should respect another. As you know, that is one of my weaknesses, which I intend to work on during my tenure in TT. Perhaps we can travel that journey together, Lance. Lance Muir wrote: Conclusion...eh? People, understandably, intervene on behalf of those for whom they care. Family members may speak harshly, on occasion, to one another. These same family members may not permit the same liberty to non-family members. Therefore, DM should appreciate you, one whome he apparently sees as a family member, speaking on his behalf. - Original Message - From: Dave Hansen To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 05, 2006 01:51 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please DAVEH: FWIW...While it may be mild, it strikes me as being in the realm of an ad-hom. And, whether or not it is true..I do no see it as pertinent to whether or not it is an ad-hom. However Lance..I've made similar errors of judgment in the past, so I probably should not be the one to point out yours. Lance Muir wrote: I draw the line, Dave, where that which is said does not describe the one being spoken to. 'Pompous ass' is pretty mild stuff. - Original Message - From: Dave To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 02, 2006 17:52 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please You were simply described. DAVEH: Lance, may I ask you where you draw the line on an ad-hom? Is it possible describing somebody as a pompous ass to ever be an ad-hom in your opinion? Lance Muir wrote: YOU WERE NOT INSULTED, DAVIDM! You were simply described. An _expression_ was employed that is no worse than 'brain fart'. Cool it, oh defensive one! -- ~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain six email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS.
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"I doubt that I really fit into anybody's family here.." You're part of the family, DaveH. Come on in and meet the kinfolk. :>) Bill - Original Message - From: Dave Hansen To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 9:59 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please People, understandably, intervene on behalf of those for whom they care.DAVEH: Which is why I'm chatting with you about this, Lance.Family members may speak harshly, on occasion, to one anotherDAVEH: I would like to think that fact does not justify its continuation.These same family members may not permit the same liberty to non-family membersDAVEH: I've certainly mentioned my observation of a double standard in TT before. Though I let it justify my subsequent posts, in retrospect I regret having made that justification, as it lowered myself, rather than lifted anotheras I think the Lord would preferred.DM should appreciate you, one whome he apparently sees as a family member, speaking on his behalf.DAVEH: I suspect DM appreciates and loves each and every TTer for a variety of reasons, each for perhaps a different reason. Being the black sheep of TT, I doubt that I really fit into anybody's family here..but I don't think DM would want to exclude me for being different, so to speak. Though one does not necessarily have to appreciate another, IMHO.one should respect another. As you know, that is one of my weaknesses, which I intend to work on during my tenure in TT. Perhaps we can travel that journey together, Lance.Lance Muir wrote: Conclusion...eh? People, understandably, intervene on behalf of those for whom they care. Family members may speak harshly, on occasion, to one another. These same family members may not permit the same liberty to non-family members. Therefore, DM should appreciate you, one whome he apparently sees as a family member, speaking on his behalf. - Original Message - From: Dave Hansen To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 05, 2006 01:51 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please DAVEH: FWIW...While it may be mild, it strikes me as being in the realm of an ad-hom. And, whether or not it is true..I do no see it as pertinent to whether or not it is an ad-hom. However Lance..I've made similar errors of judgment in the past, so I probably should not be the one to point out yours.Lance Muir wrote: I draw the line, Dave, where that which is said does not describe the one being spoken to. 'Pompous ass' is pretty mild stuff. - Original Message - From: Dave To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 02, 2006 17:52 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please You were simply described.DAVEH: Lance, may I ask you where you draw the line on an ad-hom? Is it possible describing somebody as a pompous ass to ever be an ad-hom in your opinion? Lance Muir wrote: YOU WERE NOT INSULTED, DAVIDM! You were simply described. An _expression_ was employed that is no worse than 'brain fart'. Cool it, oh defensive one! -- ~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain six email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS.-- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by Plains.Net, and is believed to be clean.
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DAVEH: Is that like.I've met the enemy, and he is me. ;-)
Taylor wrote:
"I doubt that I really fit into anybody's family here.."
You're part of the family, DaveH. Come on in and
meet the kinfolk.
:>) Bill
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Dave
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Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please
People, understandably, intervene on
behalf of those for whom they care.
DAVEH: Which is why I'm chatting with you about this, Lance.
Family members may speak harshly,
on occasion, to one another
DAVEH: I would like to think that fact does not justify its
continuation.
These same family members may not
permit the same liberty to non-family members
DAVEH: I've certainly mentioned my observation of a double standard
in TT before. Though I let it justify my subsequent posts, in
retrospect I regret having made that justification, as it lowered
myself, rather than lifted anotheras I think the Lord would
preferred.
DM should appreciate you, one
whome he apparently sees as a family member, speaking on his behalf.
DAVEH: I suspect DM appreciates and loves each and every TTer for a
variety of reasons, each for perhaps a different reason. Being the
black sheep of TT, I doubt that I really fit into anybody's family
here..but I don't think DM would want to exclude me for being
different, so to speak. Though one does not necessarily have to appreciate another,
IMHO.one should respect another. As you know, that is one of my
weaknesses, which I intend to work on during my tenure in TT. Perhaps
we can travel that journey together, Lance.
Lance Muir wrote:
Conclusion...eh? People,
understandably, intervene on behalf of those for whom they care. Family
members may speak harshly, on occasion, to one another. These
same family members may not permit the same liberty to non-family
members. Therefore, DM should appreciate you, one whome he
apparently sees as a family member, speaking on his behalf.
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DAVEH: FWIW...While it may be mild, it strikes me as being in the
realm of an ad-hom. And, whether or not it is true..I do no see it
as pertinent to whether or not it is an ad-hom. However
Lance..I've made similar errors of judgment in the past, so I
probably should not be the one to point out yours.
Lance Muir wrote:
I draw the line, Dave, where
that which is said does not describe the one being spoken to. 'Pompous
ass' is pretty mild stuff.
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You were simply described.
DAVEH: Lance, may I ask you where you draw the line on an ad-hom? Is
it possible describing somebody as a pompous ass to ever be an
ad-hom in your opinion?
Lance Muir wrote:
YOU WERE NOT INSULTED,
DAVIDM! You were simply described. An _expression_ was employed
that is no worse than 'brain fart'. Cool it, oh defensive one!
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DH:I'm assuming that you, like myself, have never
gotten to know DM personally. Therefore, we've only got TT when it comes to
'reading' him(pun intended) I've found him amorphous in nature, even
chameleon like.I tend to respond to 'the DM' I read during his infrequent visits
to TT.
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People, understandably, intervene on
behalf of those for whom they care.DAVEH: Which
is why I'm chatting with you about this, Lance.Family members may speak harshly, on occasion, to one
anotherDAVEH: I would like to think that
fact does not justify its continuation.These same family members may not permit the same liberty to
non-family membersDAVEH: I've certainly
mentioned my observation of a double standard in TT before. Though
I let it justify my subsequent posts, in retrospect I regret having made that
justification, as it lowered myself, rather than lifted anotheras I think
the Lord would preferred.DM should
appreciate you, one whome he apparently sees as a family member, speaking on
his behalf.DAVEH: I suspect DM appreciates
and loves each and every TTer for a variety of reasons, each for perhaps a
different reason. Being the black sheep of TT, I doubt that I really fit
into anybody's family here..but I don't think DM would want to exclude me
for being different, so to speak. Though one does not necessarily have
to appreciate another,
IMHO.one should respect another. As you know, that is one of my
weaknesses, which I intend to work on during my tenure in TT. Perhaps we
can travel that journey together, Lance.Lance Muir wrote:
Conclusion...eh? People, understandably,
intervene on behalf of those for whom they care. Family members
may speak harshly, on occasion, to one another. These same family
members may not permit the same liberty to non-family members.
Therefore, DM should appreciate you, one whome he apparently sees as a
family member, speaking on his behalf.
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DAVEH: FWIW...While it may be mild, it
strikes me as being in the realm of an ad-hom. And, whether or not
it is true..I do no see it as pertinent to whether or not it is an
ad-hom. However Lance..I've made similar errors of judgment in
the past, so I probably should not be the one to point out
yours.Lance Muir wrote:
I draw the line, Dave, where that which is
said does not describe the one being spoken to. 'Pompous ass' is pretty
mild stuff.
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You were simply
described.DAVEH: Lance, may I ask you
where you draw the line on an ad-hom? Is it possible describing
somebody as a pompous ass to ever be an ad-hom in your
opinion? Lance Muir wrote:
YOU WERE NOT INSULTED, DAVIDM! You
were simply described. An _expression_ was employed that is no
worse than 'brain fart'. Cool it, oh defensive one!
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DAVEH: Most of my interactions with him have been via TT since it's
birth, though I've recently had the opportunity to chat with DavidM on
the phone for about an hour recently, which certainly has added
immeasurably to my understanding of him, in a personal sense. I
don't see him in the same amorphous light you do though, Lance. If
anything, I have the opposite view. Perhaps you are thinking that
because he is so tolerant of others' views, that it appears he changes
his beliefs when he doesn't respond vehemently against those things
that he does not accept. Ormaybe when he rarely does respond
harsher (or, in a different way) to some, than to othersit gives
you the impression that he is two-faced. I guess I'm not quite sure
what you find to not like about DMsometimes I'm rather naive and
prefer to think the best of people. That isn't to say I'm perfect in
that respect.I've got my foibles, and am trying to climb above
them. Care to walk that path with me, Lance?
Lance Muir wrote:
DH:I'm assuming that you, like
myself, have never gotten to know DM personally. Therefore, we've only
got TT when it comes to 'reading' him(pun intended) I've found him
amorphous in nature, even chameleon like.I tend to respond to 'the DM'
I read during his infrequent visits to TT.
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People, understandably, intervene on
behalf of those for whom they care.
DAVEH: Which is why I'm chatting with you about this, Lance.
Family members may speak harshly,
on occasion, to one another
DAVEH: I would like to think that fact does not justify its
continuation.
These same family members may not
permit the same liberty to non-family members
DAVEH: I've certainly mentioned my observation of a double standard
in TT before. Though I let it justify my subsequent posts, in
retrospect I regret having made that justification, as it lowered
myself, rather than lifted anotheras I think the Lord would
preferred.
DM should appreciate you, one
whome he apparently sees as a family member, speaking on his behalf.
DAVEH: I suspect DM appreciates and loves each and every TTer for a
variety of reasons, each for perhaps a different reason. Being the
black sheep of TT, I doubt that I really fit into anybody's family
here..but I don't think DM would want to exclude me for being
different, so to speak. Though one does not necessarily have to appreciate another,
IMHO.one should respect another. As you know, that is one of my
weaknesses, which I intend to work on during my tenure in TT. Perhaps
we can travel that journey together, Lance.
Lance Muir wrote:
Conclusion...eh? People,
understandably, intervene on behalf of those for whom they care. Family
members may speak harshly, on occasion, to one another. These
same family members may not permit the same liberty to non-family
members. Therefore, DM should appreciate you, one whome he
apparently sees as a family member, speaking on his behalf.
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DAVEH: FWIW...While it may be mild, it strikes me as being in the
realm of an ad-hom. And, whether or not it is true..I do no see it
as pertinent to whether or not it is an ad-hom. However
Lance..I've made similar errors of judgment in the past, so I
probably should not be the one to point out yours.
Lance Muir wrote:
I draw the line, Dave, where
that which is said does not describe the one being spoken to. 'Pompous
ass' is pretty mild stuff.
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You were simply described.
DAVEH: Lance, may I ask you where you draw the line on an ad-hom? Is
it possible describing somebody as a pompous ass to ever be an
ad-hom in your opinion?
Lance Muir wrote:
YOU WERE NOT INSULTED,
DAVIDM! You were simply described. An _expression_ was employed
that is no worse than 'brain fart'. Cool it, oh defensive one!
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I recommend idealism from ages 13-25. Thereafter, should the idealism remain, you're out of touch with reality, DH, so NO I do not care to walk that path with you. - Original Message - From: Dave Hansen To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 06, 2006 10:31 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please DAVEH: Most of my interactions with him have been via TT since it's birth, though I've recently had the opportunity to chat with DavidM on the phone for about an hour recently, which certainly has added immeasurably to my understanding of him, in a personal sense. I don't see him in the same amorphous light you do though, Lance. If anything, I have the opposite view. Perhaps you are thinking that because he is so tolerant of others' views, that it appears he changes his beliefs when he doesn't respond vehemently against those things that he does not accept. Ormaybe when he rarely does respond harsher (or, in a different way) to some, than to othersit gives you the impression that he is two-faced. I guess I'm not quite sure what you find to not like about DMsometimes I'm rather naive and prefer to think the best of people. That isn't to say I'm perfect in that respect.I've got my foibles, and am trying to climb above them. Care to walk that path with me, Lance?Lance Muir wrote: DH:I'm assuming that you, like myself, have never gotten to know DM personally. Therefore, we've only got TT when it comes to 'reading' him(pun intended) I've found him amorphous in nature, even chameleon like.I tend to respond to 'the DM' I read during his infrequent visits to TT. - Original Message - From: Dave Hansen To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 05, 2006 23:59 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please People, understandably, intervene on behalf of those for whom they care.DAVEH: Which is why I'm chatting with you about this, Lance.Family members may speak harshly, on occasion, to one anotherDAVEH: I would like to think that fact does not justify its continuation.These same family members may not permit the same liberty to non-family membersDAVEH: I've certainly mentioned my observation of a double standard in TT before. Though I let it justify my subsequent posts, in retrospect I regret having made that justification, as it lowered myself, rather than lifted anotheras I think the Lord would preferred.DM should appreciate you, one whome he apparently sees as a family member, speaking on his behalf.DAVEH: I suspect DM appreciates and loves each and every TTer for a variety of reasons, each for perhaps a different reason. Being the black sheep of TT, I doubt that I really fit into anybody's family here..but I don't think DM would want to exclude me for being different, so to speak. Though one does not necessarily have to appreciate another, IMHO.one should respect another. As you know, that is one of my weaknesses, which I intend to work on during my tenure in TT. Perhaps we can travel that journey together, Lance.Lance Muir wrote: Conclusion...eh? People, understandably, intervene on behalf of those for whom they care. Family members may speak harshly, on occasion, to one another. These same family members may not permit the same liberty to non-family members. Therefore, DM should appreciate you, one whome he apparently sees as a family member, speaking on his behalf. - Original Message - From: Dave Hansen To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 05, 2006 01:51 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unsubscribe please DAVEH: FWIW...While it may be mild, it strikes me as being in the realm of an ad-hom. And, whether or not it is true..I do no see it as pertinent to whether or not it is an ad-hom. However Lance..I've made similar errors of judgment in the past, so I probably should not be the one to point out yours.Lance Muir wrote: I draw the line, Dave, where that which is said does not describe the one being spoken to. 'Pompous ass' is pretty mild stuff. - Original Message - From: Dave To:
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interestg On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 07:31:27 -0800 Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [i] had the opportunity to chat with DavidM on the phone for about an hour recently, which certainly has added immeasurably to my understanding of him, in a personal sense. I don't see him in the same amorphous light you do though, Lance. If anything, I have the opposite view.
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Yes, DM does come across differently than he writes. Good for him. Too bad (at times) for those who have to read him. -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] interestg On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 07:31:27 -0800 Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [i] had the opportunity to chat with DavidM on the phone for about an hour recently, which certainly has added immeasurably to my understanding of him, in a personal sense. I don't see him in the same amorphous light you do though, Lance. If anything, I have the opposite view.
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What's the problem with "reading him"? Same argument some have with God; they like the concept, but can not stomach His Word until modified. On Sat, 07 Jan 2006 14:00:16 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, DM does come across differently than he writes. Good for him. Too bad (at times) for those who have to read him. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] interestg On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 07:31:27 -0800 Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [i] had the opportunity to chat with DavidM on the phone for about an hour recently, which certainly has added immeasurably to my understanding of him, in a personal sense. I don't see him in the same amorphous light you do though, Lance. If anything, I have the opposite view.
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DAVEH: I suspect we all come across a bit differently in reality than in the way we reveal ourselves through our written thoughts. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, DM does come across differently than he writes. Good for him. Too bad (at times) for those who have to read him. -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] interestg On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 07:31:27 -0800 Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [i] had the opportunity to chat with DavidM on the phone for about an hour recently, which certainly has added immeasurably to my understanding of him, in a personal sense. I don't see him in the same amorphous light you do though, Lance. If anything, I have the opposite view. -- ~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain six email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS.
