Re: [TruthTalk] Informal Poll
There is a time to give a soft answer. There is a time to rebuke. 2 Tim. 3:16-17. How a man of God speaks to others often depends upon how worthy the receivers are to receive. 1 Cor. 4:21. Certainly not Iz. Christians know that a soft answer turns away wrath. Terry
Re: [TruthTalk] Informal Poll
Certainly not Iz. Christians know that a soft answer turns away wrath. Terry Terry, Perhaps you are being facetious, but I think you are right. But if anyone on TT thinks they have a corner on the whole truth, and being right, and totally correct doctrine, and are the only one who can read the Bible correctly, well…I guess they would be jumping up and down and yelling at everyone else, and accusing them of all sorts of heresies. Certainly no one would do such a thing! J Izzy IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
Re: [TruthTalk] Informal Poll
Izzy, you have just described below Slade who whoever the Pharisee is. Terry, Perhaps you are being facetious, but I think you are right. But if anyone on TT thinks they have a corner on the whole truth, and being right, and totally correct doctrine, and are the only one who can read the Bible correctly, well…I guess they would be jumping up and down and yelling at everyone else, and accusing them of all sorts of heresies. Certainly no one would do such a thing! J Izzy
RE: [TruthTalk] Informal Poll
Terry, Perhaps you are being facetious, but I think you are right. But if anyone on TT thinks they have a corner on the whole truth, and being right, and totally correct doctrine, and are the only one who can read the Bible correctly, well…I guess they would be jumping up and down and yelling at everyone else, and accusing them of all sorts of heresies. Certainly no one would do such a thing! J Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terry Clifton Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 4:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Informal Poll An excellent question Perry. I am certain that all of us open minded brothers and sisters would change in a minute if we ever saw an error in our thinking. Terry ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, March 21, 2003 09:55:54 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [TruthTalk] Informal Poll AN INFORMAL POLL: Has anyone on truthtalk ever changed their point of view or doctrine because of arguments presented on truth talk by other members? Perry _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. . IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here <>
Re: [TruthTalk] Informal Poll
An excellent question Perry. I am certain that all of us open minded brothers and sisters would change in a minute if we ever saw an error in our thinking. Terry ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, March 21, 2003 09:55:54 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [TruthTalk] Informal Poll AN INFORMAL POLL:Has anyone on truthtalk ever changed their point of view or doctrine because of arguments presented on truth talk by other members?Perry_Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail--"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.orgIf you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.. IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
Re: [TruthTalk] Informal Poll
Izzy, You have shown me you a hateful attitude toward those who clearly show your Saturday keeping a false lie hatched out of hell. Perry, I have changed my mind about at least a couple of things due to TT: 1) I used to believe that faith in Jesus plus nothing else = salvation. But the intolerant, arrogant, and even hateful attitude of those with that belief has taught me that just "believing" without love and obedience = talk without the walk. Not a real salvation, just a head knowledge. Even the devils "believe"! 2) I used to believe what I was always taught, which was "No one is perfect. We will always be sinners saved by grace. There is no hope to stop sinning completely." Thanks to David M. I now believe that we should see that as a lie of the devil, and make it our aim to accept nothing but a sinless life by His grace. He died not only to Forgive our sins, but to set us Free from sinning! It requires faith for both. I've probably changed some other ideas, but I can't think what right now. Perhaps I've grown more tolerant of Aardvarks? Izzy
RE: [TruthTalk] Informal Poll
Perry, I have changed my mind about at least a couple of things due to TT: 1) I used to believe that faith in Jesus plus nothing else = salvation. But the intolerant, arrogant, and even hateful attitude of those with that belief has taught me that just "believing" without love and obedience = talk without the walk. Not a real salvation, just a head knowledge. Even the devils "believe"! 2) I used to believe what I was always taught, which was "No one is perfect. We will always be sinners saved by grace. There is no hope to stop sinning completely." Thanks to David M. I now believe that we should see that as a lie of the devil, and make it our aim to accept nothing but a sinless life by His grace. He died not only to Forgive our sins, but to set us Free from sinning! It requires faith for both. I've probably changed some other ideas, but I can't think what right now. Perhaps I've grown more tolerant of Aardvarks? Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles P. Locke Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 9:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [TruthTalk] Informal Poll AN INFORMAL POLL: Has anyone on truthtalk ever changed their point of view or doctrine because of arguments presented on truth talk by other members? Perry _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
Re: [TruthTalk] Informal Poll
ROFL Times 666. You would make a good Church of Christ member. 2) When I first joined TruthTalk, I use to believe that we were saved by faith alone, but because of discussions here on TruthTalk, I have changed my viewpoint to see that Scripture does not teach this.
Re: [TruthTalk] Informal Poll
Yes, I have. AN INFORMAL POLL: > > Has anyone on truthtalk ever changed their point of view or doctrine > because of arguments presented on truth talk by other members? > > Perry
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Perry wrote: > Has anyone on truthtalk ever changed their > point of view or doctrine because of arguments > presented on truth talk by other members? Hi Perry. I've had several views change because of TruthTalk. For example: 1) I was very ignorant of Mormonism and didn't really have an informed viewpoint about their religious structure. I use to consider them a polytheistic cult to be avoided when I first joined TruthTalk. Because of the discussions here, I now realize that Mormons are Christians, that they profess a sincere faith in Jesus Christ, and that their concept of the Godhead, while missing the mark, is not as far from the idea of the Trinity that I had once thought. When I explained the idea of the Trinity to one TruthTalk member (Jeff), he said that if that was in fact the Trinity, then he believed it. So TruthTalk has caused me to understand that Mormons have been taught wrongly about what the Trinity doctrine is. Also, I was somewhat open to Joseph Smith being a true prophetic figure prior to TruthTalk, but because of discussions here and the study it motivated me to do, my mind has changed to understand better than ever that Joseph Smith was a false prophet, that the Book of Mormon and Pearl of Great Price is a fraud, and numerous other things that I don't have time to mention right now. 2) When I first joined TruthTalk, I use to believe that we were saved by faith alone, but because of discussions here on TruthTalk, I have changed my viewpoint to see that Scripture does not teach this. 3) I use to think Street Preachers were bold and more in the will of God than most, until some of my street preacher friends started participating on TruthTalk. I saw through their exchanges with Glenn and others that they could not shift gears and distinguish well between those with a sincere faith in Christ and those in rebellion against God. I also saw that in a calm forum where there was time to develop dialogue, that they could not properly present many of their views. Eventually, I think most every street preacher who has joined this list has left. So my view about street preachers has changed quite a bit. I still preach on the street myself, and I still join with many of these guys to challenge our society, but in my eyes, they now are truly simply another group of ministers and not on the pedestal that I once put them on. 4) I was at one time open to the idea that killing abortion doctors might be justifiable, to prevent further abortions, but through discussions of this on TruthTalk, my mind has become entrenched against the idea. I'm sure that there are many other ways in which my mind has changed. There were a few times where I changed my point of view immediately based upon an argument that someone made, but right now, I can't think of what those views were. Peace be with you. David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
Re: [TruthTalk] Informal Poll
yep--Perry, I used to think jonbenet ramsey was wisked away by her family till we learned what happened to elizabeth smart On Fri, 21 Mar 2003 15:54:15 + "Charles P. Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:> > AN INFORMAL POLL:> > Has anyone on truthtalk ever changed their point of view or doctrine > because of arguments presented on truth talk by other members?> > Perry