RE: [TruthTalk] A 'prooftexter' vs a 'contexter'
Lance, what you fail to “apprehend” is that if DM and JT are truly seeking Truth (which they are), then eventually they will reach agreement. The nice thing is that they are not disagreeing on anything of essential-to-being-saved issues. izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 6:38 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: [TruthTalk] A 'prooftexter' vs a 'contexter' At last we've been presented with the opportunity to demonstrate this 'He will lead you into all truth' thingy is misunderstood by those who have most often cited it (Judy, David). Both are faithful servants of the Lord, both have 'studied to show themselves approved', both are 'berean' in their approachHOWEVER ONE OF THEM IS GOING TO WEASEL OUT IN THE END SANS A SATISFACTORY CONCLUSION! One is more committed to belief than reality.
Re: [TruthTalk] A 'prooftexter' vs a 'contexter'
Doncha just love the built-in patronizing attitutude of some.'more in agreement than you probably realize'. Really, David! Perhaps not. You're lucid almost always, David. You're not always smart. - Original Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: July 22, 2005 10:13 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A 'prooftexter' vs a 'contexter' Patience, Lance. Patience. Judy and I both have hope to achieve a mutually beneficial understanding in the end. What we are discussing is not a life or death issue. The truth is that Judy and I are in more agreement than you probably realize right now. Most of our differences hinge upon a different understanding of the words we use. -David. - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 8:38 AM Subject: [TruthTalk] A 'prooftexter' vs a 'contexter' At last we've been presented with the opportunity to demonstrate this 'He will lead you into all truth' thingy is misunderstood by those who have most often cited it (Judy, David). Both are faithful servants of the Lord, both have 'studied to show themselves approved', both are 'berean' in their approachHOWEVER ONE OF THEM IS GOING TO WEASEL OUT IN THE END SANS A SATISFACTORY CONCLUSION! One is more committed to belief than reality. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
Re: [TruthTalk] A 'prooftexter' vs a 'contexter'
Maybe he is blind because it is his nature? LOST --- Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't "criticize" people Lance. We are working in two different > arenas > and I can't figure > out why you are so blind to it. I challenge doctrine and you > criticize > people. One is sin > the other is expected as part of our walk in Christ which Mormons > have > not yet begun. > since they are disciples of Joseph Smith and will become like their > teacher. jt. > > On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 08:59:42 -0400 "Lance Muir" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > writes: > IFF THAT'S ALL IT PROVES then, may I suggest that you BACK OFF ANY > CRITICISMS OF > ANYONE due to the operative proviso 'that we (they- Mormons et al) > are at > different places > in their walk' > From: Judy Taylor > > You never give up do you Lance? > All this proves is that we are at different places in our walk. I > have > seen David explain this > to you in the clearest way possible but you apparently did not accept > that. There is only ONE > who has always been perfect. The rest of us are learning and "rest" > includes David and me. > > On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 08:38:04 -0400 "Lance Muir" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > writes: > At last we've been presented with the opportunity to demonstrate this > 'He > will lead you into all truth' thingy is misunderstood by those who > have > most often cited it (Judy, David). > > Both are faithful servants of the Lord, both have 'studied to show > themselves approved', both are 'berean' in their approachHOWEVER > ONE > OF THEM IS GOING TO WEASEL OUT IN THE END SANS A SATISFACTORY > CONCLUSION! > One is more committed to belief than reality. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
Re: [TruthTalk] A 'prooftexter' vs a 'contexter'
Patience, Lance. Patience. Judy and I both have hope to achieve a mutually beneficial understanding in the end. What we are discussing is not a life or death issue. The truth is that Judy and I are in more agreement than you probably realize right now. Most of our differences hinge upon a different understanding of the words we use. -David. - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 8:38 AM Subject: [TruthTalk] A 'prooftexter' vs a 'contexter' At last we've been presented with the opportunity to demonstrate this 'He will lead you into all truth' thingy is misunderstood by those who have most often cited it (Judy, David). Both are faithful servants of the Lord, both have 'studied to show themselves approved', both are 'berean' in their approachHOWEVER ONE OF THEM IS GOING TO WEASEL OUT IN THE END SANS A SATISFACTORY CONCLUSION! One is more committed to belief than reality. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
Re: [TruthTalk] A 'prooftexter' vs a 'contexter'
S, "infallibility" is the case except when two people who share that teaching disagree. Then, the doctrine of "infallibility" does not apply and the teaching of "maturity" carry's the force of law? Wow !! I think I am starting to get it!! Jd -Original Message-From: Judy Taylor <jandgtaylor1@juno.com>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 08:49:13 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A 'prooftexter' vs a 'contexter' You never give up do you Lance? All this proves is that we are at different places in our walk. I have seen David explain this to you in the clearest way possible but you apparently did not accept that. There is only ONE who has always been perfect. The rest of us are learning and "rest" includes David and me. On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 08:38:04 -0400 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: At last we've been presented with the opportunity to demonstrate this 'He will lead you into all truth' thingy is misunderstood by those who have most often cited it (Judy, David). Both are faithful servants of the Lord, both have 'studied to show themselves approved', both are 'berean' in their approachHOWEVER ONE OF THEM IS GOING TO WEASEL OUT IN THE END SANS A SATISFACTORY CONCLUSION! One is more committed to belief than reality.
Re: [TruthTalk] A 'prooftexter' vs a 'contexter'
Which makes my point perfectly. Jesus was not born of a virgin with the same kind of nature even though he had a body in our likeness. His humanity was different from ours. On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 09:18:38 -0400 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Talk about not knowing! Both you and David are (present tense) indwelling a nature that, though redeemed, still has a propensity toward sinning. Further, this nature of yours and, David does indeed practice that nature daily. From: Judy Taylor I don't "criticize" people Lance. We are working in two different arenas and I can't figure out why you are so blind to it. I challenge doctrine and you criticize people. One is sin the other is expected as part of our walk in Christ which Mormons have not yet begun. since they are disciples of Joseph Smith and will become like their teacher. jt. On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 08:59:42 -0400 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: IFF THAT'S ALL IT PROVES then, may I suggest that you BACK OFF ANY CRITICISMS OF ANYONE due to the operative proviso 'that we (they- Mormons et al) are at different places in their walk' From: Judy Taylor You never give up do you Lance? All this proves is that we are at different places in our walk. I have seen David explain this to you in the clearest way possible but you apparently did not accept that. There is only ONE who has always been perfect. The rest of us are learning and "rest" includes David and me. On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 08:38:04 -0400 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: At last we've been presented with the opportunity to demonstrate this 'He will lead you into all truth' thingy is misunderstood by those who have most often cited it (Judy, David). Both are faithful servants of the Lord, both have 'studied to show themselves approved', both are 'berean' in their approachHOWEVER ONE OF THEM IS GOING TO WEASEL OUT IN THE END SANS A SATISFACTORY CONCLUSION! One is more committed to belief than reality.
Re: [TruthTalk] A 'prooftexter' vs a 'contexter'
Talk about not knowing! Both you and David are (present tense) indwelling a nature that, though redeemed, still has a propensity toward sinning. Further, this nature of yours and, David does indeed practice that nature daily. - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: July 22, 2005 09:07 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A 'prooftexter' vs a 'contexter' I don't "criticize" people Lance. We are working in two different arenas and I can't figure out why you are so blind to it. I challenge doctrine and you criticize people. One is sin the other is expected as part of our walk in Christ which Mormons have not yet begun. since they are disciples of Joseph Smith and will become like their teacher. jt. On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 08:59:42 -0400 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: IFF THAT'S ALL IT PROVES then, may I suggest that you BACK OFF ANY CRITICISMS OF ANYONE due to the operative proviso 'that we (they- Mormons et al) are at different places in their walk' From: Judy Taylor You never give up do you Lance? All this proves is that we are at different places in our walk. I have seen David explain this to you in the clearest way possible but you apparently did not accept that. There is only ONE who has always been perfect. The rest of us are learning and "rest" includes David and me. On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 08:38:04 -0400 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: At last we've been presented with the opportunity to demonstrate this 'He will lead you into all truth' thingy is misunderstood by those who have most often cited it (Judy, David). Both are faithful servants of the Lord, both have 'studied to show themselves approved', both are 'berean' in their approachHOWEVER ONE OF THEM IS GOING TO WEASEL OUT IN THE END SANS A SATISFACTORY CONCLUSION! One is more committed to belief than reality.
Re: [TruthTalk] A 'prooftexter' vs a 'contexter'
I don't "criticize" people Lance. We are working in two different arenas and I can't figure out why you are so blind to it. I challenge doctrine and you criticize people. One is sin the other is expected as part of our walk in Christ which Mormons have not yet begun. since they are disciples of Joseph Smith and will become like their teacher. jt. On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 08:59:42 -0400 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: IFF THAT'S ALL IT PROVES then, may I suggest that you BACK OFF ANY CRITICISMS OF ANYONE due to the operative proviso 'that we (they- Mormons et al) are at different places in their walk' From: Judy Taylor You never give up do you Lance? All this proves is that we are at different places in our walk. I have seen David explain this to you in the clearest way possible but you apparently did not accept that. There is only ONE who has always been perfect. The rest of us are learning and "rest" includes David and me. On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 08:38:04 -0400 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: At last we've been presented with the opportunity to demonstrate this 'He will lead you into all truth' thingy is misunderstood by those who have most often cited it (Judy, David). Both are faithful servants of the Lord, both have 'studied to show themselves approved', both are 'berean' in their approachHOWEVER ONE OF THEM IS GOING TO WEASEL OUT IN THE END SANS A SATISFACTORY CONCLUSION! One is more committed to belief than reality.
Re: [TruthTalk] A 'prooftexter' vs a 'contexter'
Exactly. -Original Message-From: Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 08:38:04 -0400Subject: [TruthTalk] A 'prooftexter' vs a 'contexter' At last we've been presented with the opportunity to demonstrate this 'He will lead you into all truth' thingy is misunderstood by those who have most often cited it (Judy, David). Both are faithful servants of the Lord, both have 'studied to show themselves approved', both are 'berean' in their approachHOWEVER ONE OF THEM IS GOING TO WEASEL OUT IN THE END SANS A SATISFACTORY CONCLUSION! One is more committed to belief than reality.
Re: [TruthTalk] A 'prooftexter' vs a 'contexter'
IFF THAT'S ALL IT PROVES then, may I suggest that you BACK OFF ANY CRITICISMS OF ANYONE due to the operative proviso 'that we (they- Mormons et al) are at different places in their walk' - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: July 22, 2005 08:49 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A 'prooftexter' vs a 'contexter' You never give up do you Lance? All this proves is that we are at different places in our walk. I have seen David explain this to you in the clearest way possible but you apparently did not accept that. There is only ONE who has always been perfect. The rest of us are learning and "rest" includes David and me. On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 08:38:04 -0400 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: At last we've been presented with the opportunity to demonstrate this 'He will lead you into all truth' thingy is misunderstood by those who have most often cited it (Judy, David). Both are faithful servants of the Lord, both have 'studied to show themselves approved', both are 'berean' in their approachHOWEVER ONE OF THEM IS GOING TO WEASEL OUT IN THE END SANS A SATISFACTORY CONCLUSION! One is more committed to belief than reality.
Re: [TruthTalk] A 'prooftexter' vs a 'contexter'
You never give up do you Lance? All this proves is that we are at different places in our walk. I have seen David explain this to you in the clearest way possible but you apparently did not accept that. There is only ONE who has always been perfect. The rest of us are learning and "rest" includes David and me. On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 08:38:04 -0400 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: At last we've been presented with the opportunity to demonstrate this 'He will lead you into all truth' thingy is misunderstood by those who have most often cited it (Judy, David). Both are faithful servants of the Lord, both have 'studied to show themselves approved', both are 'berean' in their approachHOWEVER ONE OF THEM IS GOING TO WEASEL OUT IN THE END SANS A SATISFACTORY CONCLUSION! One is more committed to belief than reality.
