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2002-11-01 Thread GJTabor
No, I am just talking about being busy doing the Lord's work.  I work "full-time" for the Lord building the wall of faith is Christ.  I don't have time to come down off the wall to talk secrecy talks.  The book of Nehemiah is an example.

If Martin wants to tell us something I will read it.  If he wants us to spend hours figuring out what he is talking about, he's wasting his time with me.  He can just think I am not spiritual.    


Glenn,

Are you a member of the Wallbuilders organization? The one that teaches our nation’s Christian heritage? Or what the heck are you talking about???
Izzy





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2002-11-01 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 11/1/2002 8:06:43 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Glenn,

 

Are you a member of the Wallbuilders organization? The one that teaches our nation’s Christian heritage? Or what the heck are you talking about???

 

Izzy



Glenn is the founder of the Wallbuilders Association -  Actually it is a hedgebuilders company that provides protection for me when I get into trouble.  LIKE- when I go to a mall in a not so good part of town and leave my van keys in the door!   He lives 350 miles from me so it is a tough job to keep me protected.  He sometimes has to send his angels to help me out because mine can't handle the job.  Laura


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2002-11-01 Thread ShieldsFamily








Glenn,

 

Are you a member of the Wallbuilders
organization? The one that teaches our nation’s Christian heritage? Or what the
heck are you talking about???

 

Izzy

 

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Nehemiah was rebuilding the walls of Jerusalem.  His
opposition was Sanballat, Tobiah, and Geshem.  They wanted him to come
down off the wall, and talk to them.  He refused.  He didn't have
time to talk, he was rebuilding the walls of Jerusalem.  He completed his
job and revival broke out.  It's a tremendous story.

The opposition   2:19-20
They deride Nehemiah   4:1-5 
They threaten to attack  4:6-15
They hired false prophets  6:10-14
They try to snare Nehemiah  6:19
BUT the wall was completed   6:15-19




Okay, Glenn—I don’t remember
Sanballet. Was this something that happened a thousand years ago? How old do
you think I am, anyway? Izzy















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2002-10-31 Thread David Miller
Glenn wrote:
> Well, David, he did condmen the publicans
> and sinners.   Puplican is a secret Greek word
> for Republicans.  Sinners is a secret Greek word
> for independents.  That leaves the Democrats.   :-)

Uhh, I think you got the premise wrong.  Jesus did not condemn the publicans
and sinners.  He was FRIENDS with publicans and sinners.  In fact, he made a
publican his apostle, and that publican wrote the first book of the New
Testament.  So maybe we should follow in the steps of Jesus's apostle and be
RE-publicans which is a publican who has RE-pented.  By the way, what book
of the Bible did a demon-crat write?  :-)

Peace be with you.
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2002-10-31 Thread GJTabor
Well, David, he did condmen the publicans and sinners.   Puplican is a secret Greek word for Republicans.  Sinners is a secret Greek word for independents.  That leaves the Democrats.   :-)


Glenn wrote:
> I don't know if Jesus was a Democrat or Republican.  

Are you serious?  You don't know if Jesus was a Demoncrat?

Peace be with you.
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2002-10-31 Thread David Miller
Glenn wrote:
> I don't know if Jesus was a Democrat or Republican.  

Are you serious?  You don't know if Jesus was a Demoncrat?

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2002-10-31 Thread ShieldsFamily








Glenn, You are very welcome, my friend.  Actually,
perhaps I should start a professional resume service, since I bring out the
best in everyone. J  The Iz

 

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Thank you for that fine endorsement.  May I use it on my
resumes? 

Please don't bring Martin into this. As I have previously stated, I am building
the wall and don't have time to come down for secrecy talks. :-)







Glenn,



You are
just trying to provoke me to sin, thereby proving that you are not the only
sinner out there. LOL! I don’t think I dare go where angels fear to
tread! But, you can let it be on the record that I only refer to them as
Damocrats.


Surely
someone out there—maybe Marlin—is up to lovingly answering your
questions? I suspect he is the spiritual warrior in the group. (Marlin, you
will need it to deal with Glenn, who is even more ornery than I am!  I
know this is hard to believe, but true.)






Izzy














Re: [TruthTalk] Courtesy of Lamar, a Net Friend

2002-10-31 Thread GJTabor
Thank you for that fine endorsement.  May I use it on my resumes? 

Please don't bring Martin into this. As I have previously stated, I am building the wall and don't have time to come down for secrecy talks. :-)


Glenn,

You are just trying to provoke me to sin, thereby proving that you are not the only sinner out there. LOL! I don’t think I dare go where angels fear to tread! But, you can let it be on the record that I only refer to them as Damocrats.


Surely someone out there—maybe Marlin—is up to lovingly answering your questions? I suspect he is the spiritual warrior in the group. (Marlin, you will need it to deal with Glenn, who is even more ornery than I am!  I know this is hard to believe, but true.)

Izzy






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2002-10-31 Thread ShieldsFamily








Glenn,

 

You are just trying to provoke me to sin,
thereby proving that you are not the only sinner out there. LOL! I don’t
think I dare go where angels fear to tread! But, you can let it be on the
record that I only refer to them as Damocrats.

 

Surely someone out there—maybe Marlin—is
up to lovingly answering your questions? I suspect he is the spiritual warrior
in the group. (Marlin, you will need it to deal with Glenn, who is even more
ornery than I am!  I know this is hard to believe, but true.)

 

Izzy

 

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Glenn to Izzy - Far be it from me to
step on your nerves.  :-)  But you are not "unconfusing"
(If it's not a word it ought to be.) me.  When I was a boy the Christians
were John L. Lewis Democrats.  They preached a crooked Democrat was better
than an honest Republican.   NOW, the Christians have turned 
turncoated and become Republicans.  What "IS" a
Republican?  What "IS" a Democrat?  





Glenn, You are really trying to
step on my Last Nerve! Izzy


I don't know if Jesus was a Democrat or Republican.  I
have a clue that maybe He was a Democrat since he condemned the publicans and
sinners.  But I'm not sure.  




How
about anyone who Jesus would vote for? Izzy















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2002-10-31 Thread GJTabor
Glenn to Izzy - Far be it from me to step on your nerves.  :-)  But you are not "unconfusing" (If it's not a word it ought to be.) me.  When I was a boy the Christians were John L. Lewis Democrats.  They preached a crooked Democrat was better than an honest Republican.   NOW, the Christians have turned  turncoated and become Republicans.  What "IS" a Republican?  What "IS" a Democrat?  


Glenn, You are really trying to step on my Last Nerve! Izzy


I don't know if Jesus was a Democrat or Republican.  I have a clue that maybe He was a Democrat since he condemned the publicans and sinners.  But I'm not sure.  




How about anyone who Jesus would vote for? Izzy







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2002-10-31 Thread ShieldsFamily








Glenn, You are really trying to step on my
Last Nerve! Izzy

 

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I don't know if Jesus was a Democrat or Republican.  I
have a clue that maybe He was a Democrat since he condemned the publicans and
sinners.  But I'm not sure.  




How
about anyone who Jesus would vote for? Izzy
















Re: [TruthTalk] Courtesy of Lamar, a Net Friend

2002-10-31 Thread GJTabor
I don't know if Jesus was a Democrat or Republican.  I have a clue that maybe He was a Democrat since he condemned the publicans and sinners.  But I'm not sure.  

How about anyone who Jesus would vote for? Izzy

 






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2002-10-31 Thread ShieldsFamily








How about anyone who
Jesus would vote for? Izzy

 

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Who do you want me to vote for?




Isn’t it
“intolerant” and politically incorrect to erect walls? J (At least according to the Damocrats!) Be sure to
vote!!! Izzy














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2002-10-31 Thread GJTabor
Who do you want me to vote for?

Isn’t it “intolerant” and politically incorrect to erect walls? J (At least according to the Damocrats!) Be sure to vote!!! Izzy






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2002-10-31 Thread ShieldsFamily








Isn’t it “intolerant” and politically
incorrect to erect walls? J (At least according to the Damocrats!) Be sure to vote!!! Izzy

 

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Nehemiah was rebuilding the walls of Jerusalem.  His
opposition was Sanballat, Tobiah, and Geshem.  They wanted him to come
down off the wall, and talk to them.  He refused.  He didn't have
time to talk, he was rebuilding the walls of Jerusalem.  He completed his
job and revival broke out.  It's a tremendous story.

The opposition   2:19-20
They deride Nehemiah   4:1-5 
They threaten to attack  4:6-15
They hired false prophets  6:10-14
They try to snare Nehemiah  6:19
BUT the wall was completed   6:15-19




Okay, Glenn—I don’t remember
Sanballet. Was this something that happened a thousand years ago? How old do
you think I am, anyway? Izzy















Re: [TruthTalk] Courtesy of Lamar, a Net Friend

2002-10-31 Thread GJTabor
Nehemiah was rebuilding the walls of Jerusalem.  His opposition was Sanballat, Tobiah, and Geshem.  They wanted him to come down off the wall, and talk to them.  He refused.  He didn't have time to talk, he was rebuilding the walls of Jerusalem.  He completed his job and revival broke out.  It's a tremendous story.

The opposition   2:19-20
They deride Nehemiah   4:1-5 
They threaten to attack  4:6-15
They hired false prophets  6:10-14
They try to snare Nehemiah  6:19
BUT the wall was completed   6:15-19

Okay, Glenn—I don’t remember Sanballet. Was this something that happened a thousand years ago? How old do you think I am, anyway? Izzy

 





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2002-10-31 Thread ShieldsFamily








Okay, Glenn—I don’t remember Sanballet.
Was this something that happened a thousand years ago? How old do you think I
am, anyway? Izzy

 

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Hey, how did you get me in on this?  LOL I'm building
the wall and don't have time to come down.  The guy can speak or not
speak.  So far he has chosen not to speak.  This is not the same
thing as Jesus telling simple parables or 1 Cor. 2:7 or 2:13-15.  Remember
Sanballet.  

PS.  I didn't say remember the Sunbelt, but I did say remember Sanballet.




Okay, Marlin, I am also a bit INTENSE at times; especially
when
defending people or principles I love. (But I'm not as bad at Glenn!!!)
:-)  You sound like a person who has a lot to offer TruthTalk; so don't
let us wild women scare you off. 

Izzy












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2002-10-30 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 10/30/2002 11:20:26 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


LOL I'm building the wall and don't have time to come down.  

How big is the wall   REAL BIG  Laura


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2002-10-30 Thread GJTabor
Hey, how did you get me in on this?  LOL I'm building the wall and don't have time to come down.  The guy can speak or not speak.  So far he has chosen not to speak.  This is not the same thing as Jesus telling simple parables or 1 Cor. 2:7 or 2:13-15.  Remember Sanballet.  

PS.  I didn't say remember the Sunbelt, but I did say remember Sanballet.

Okay, Marlin, I am also a bit INTENSE at times; especially when
defending people or principles I love. (But I'm not as bad at Glenn!!!)
:-)  You sound like a person who has a lot to offer TruthTalk; so don't
let us wild women scare you off. 

Izzy




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2002-10-30 Thread ShieldsFamily
Okay, Marlin, I am also a bit INTENSE at times; especially when
defending people or principles I love. (But I'm not as bad at Glenn!!!)
:-)  You sound like a person who has a lot to offer TruthTalk; so don't
let us wild women scare you off. 

Izzy

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Izzy wrote:
> I am personally suspicious of anyone who accuses
> others of being liars and manipulators. My first
> impulse is to want facts; not innuendos.

Take it easy.  I think there is a basic misunderstanding here.  Marlin
is
new to our forum, so let's not chase him off with a simple
misunderstanding.

I understood Marlin to be speaking about what is going on in the
heavenlies.
In other words, the liar is Satan or demons which orchestrate what
happens
around us.  What we see physically is but a shadow of what is happening
spiritually.  If there is a liar or conspiracy, I think he places it in
the
prince of the power of the air, not in some unnamed person.  I could be
wrong, but that is how I was taking his comments.  Now that might also
be
reflected in some physical person, but I took Marlin's response to my
question to mean that his eyes are staying strictly on the spiritual
things.

We must keep in mind that the political powers and changes in the
political
landscape are all orchestrated by spiritual warfare.  This is revealed
in
the book of Daniel, and also in the book of Revelation.

Whatever the case, if Marlin chooses to use veiled speech to speak of
things, he is free to do so.  Don't stone him just because you don't
understand.  That's what people tried to do to Jesus who spoke in
parables
so that only some could understand.

Remember too what Paul said to the Corinthians,

"But we speak the wisdom of God IN A MYSTERY, even the hidden wisdom,
which
God ordained before the world unto our glory."  (1Cor. 2:7)

And also:

"Which things also we speak, NOT IN THE WORDS WHICH MAN'S WISDOM
TEACHETH,
but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with
spiritual. But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of
God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them,
because
they are spiritually discerned. But he that is spiritual judgeth all
things,
yet he himself is judged of no man."  (1Cor. 2:13-15)

Peace be with you.
David Miller.

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Re: [TruthTalk] Courtesy of Lamar, a Net Friend

2002-10-30 Thread Marlin Halverson


> "Which things also we speak, NOT IN THE WORDS WHICH MAN'S WISDOM TEACHETH,
> but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with
> spiritual. But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of
> God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because
> they are spiritually discerned. But he that is spiritual judgeth all
things,
> yet he himself is judged of no man."  (1Cor. 2:13-15)

Thanks Dave,

Thanks for seeing.

We as humans are blind to so much.  What a blessing to call upon our maker
for Wisdom, Knowledge, Understanding, and the gift of eternal life.

I tell you plainly, if it were not for the Holy Spirit and all of its
attributes, I'd rather be dead.  I would not want to live in a world based
upon lies and hatred and the fruits of the flesh.

Love,

Marlin
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2002-10-30 Thread ShieldsFamily
Marlin,

Maybe that's why I've felt led to pray about those powers in the
heavenlies--everything going on has made me very aware of exactly what
you are talking about.  How do you, personally, pray against dark powers
in the heavenlies? I think we should all consider how to do this
effectively before the elections just a week away. What does the Holy
Spirit lead you to do in that vein?

Izzy



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Dear Izzy,

Jesus spoke of him.  John 8:44
It is not popular to believe Jesus.
In fact, a lot of people were upset with Him.
I only know what my Lord and Savior tells me.

EPH 6:12For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against
principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the
darkness
of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high
[places].

Love,

Marlin

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> Marlin,
>
> So who's jesting? I'm a plain spoken gal, if you haven't noticed. When
> I'm jesting I think I make that quite clear.
>
> I am personally suspicious of anyone who accuses others of being liars
> and manipulators. My first impulse is to want facts; not innuendos. My
> experience is that there are usually three fingers pointing back at
the
> person doing the pointing. (Someone I know to be extremely honest and
> full of integrity has been smeared for years as a "liar and
manipulator"
> by two people with morality on the level of pond scum.) You can't even
> be up front about who you are pointing at. If you wish to be clear
about
> whom you are accusing of what, we might come to some useful dialogue
> here. Walk in the light of factual truth; not in the shadows of
> innuendo.
>
> "Let your Yes be Yes, and your No be No. Anything beyond than that
comes
> from the evil one."
>
> Izzy
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:TruthTalk-owner@;mail.innglory.org] On Behalf Of Marlin
Halverson
> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 1:12 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
> Dear Izzy,
>
> I assume that this forum is based upon some sense of God ruling the
> universe, and what he reveals, and what we seek.
>
> Human conflict must be viewed through spiritual discernment.  Even
those
> who
> do not have this faculty exercised and strong may use the lists in
Gal.
> 5 as
> a guide to identify the motives of men.  The carnal intellect alone
can
> do
> that with these lists, but tuning in to the Holy Spirit is a more
> excellent
> way.
>
> Lies have a purpose.  The purpose is to serve the one originating the
> lies.
> Duly manipulated, purveyors of the lies either blindly or knowingly
> perpetuate the lies to the same end.  I have seen lies showered over
> martyrs.  But the martyrs, a Greek word that means witnesses, must
> always
> hold to the truth.  This takes discernment and effort.
>
> There is the truth of an attitude and spirit behind such jesting.  The
> attitude is based upon superficial understanding of the evidence.
Such
> understanding is judgment.  But we must have righteous judgment, or
> judge
> not at all, that we be not judged.  Put the evidence on trial.  This
> takes
> diligence and work.  Without diligence and work, truth will not be
> appreciated.
>
> Again, ask who benefits?  Who benefits from the conflicts?  Who serves
> that
> power?
>
> With Love,
>
> Marlin
>
> P.S.
>
> "And why didn't you answer my questions?"
>
> I am not your lord that I should be telling you what to think.  The
only
> answers that matter to you are the ones that you are at liberty to
see.
> What matters is what your Lord reveals to you.  The more you see, the
> more
> sorrow you will have.  The more you see, the more you will be judged.
> Jesus
> did not always give a straight answer to explain what He could see.
> There
> were reasons for this.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 8:54 AM
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>
>
> > That's funny; your website was all about Jews and Arabs, etc. --
> nothing
> > about "whom we serve". So why the discrepancy? And why didn'

Re: [TruthTalk] Courtesy of Lamar, a Net Friend

2002-10-30 Thread David Miller
Izzy wrote:
> I am personally suspicious of anyone who accuses
> others of being liars and manipulators. My first
> impulse is to want facts; not innuendos.

Take it easy.  I think there is a basic misunderstanding here.  Marlin is
new to our forum, so let's not chase him off with a simple misunderstanding.

I understood Marlin to be speaking about what is going on in the heavenlies.
In other words, the liar is Satan or demons which orchestrate what happens
around us.  What we see physically is but a shadow of what is happening
spiritually.  If there is a liar or conspiracy, I think he places it in the
prince of the power of the air, not in some unnamed person.  I could be
wrong, but that is how I was taking his comments.  Now that might also be
reflected in some physical person, but I took Marlin's response to my
question to mean that his eyes are staying strictly on the spiritual things.

We must keep in mind that the political powers and changes in the political
landscape are all orchestrated by spiritual warfare.  This is revealed in
the book of Daniel, and also in the book of Revelation.

Whatever the case, if Marlin chooses to use veiled speech to speak of
things, he is free to do so.  Don't stone him just because you don't
understand.  That's what people tried to do to Jesus who spoke in parables
so that only some could understand.

Remember too what Paul said to the Corinthians,

"But we speak the wisdom of God IN A MYSTERY, even the hidden wisdom, which
God ordained before the world unto our glory."  (1Cor. 2:7)

And also:

"Which things also we speak, NOT IN THE WORDS WHICH MAN'S WISDOM TEACHETH,
but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with
spiritual. But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of
God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because
they are spiritually discerned. But he that is spiritual judgeth all things,
yet he himself is judged of no man."  (1Cor. 2:13-15)

Peace be with you.
David Miller.

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Re: [TruthTalk] Courtesy of Lamar, a Net Friend

2002-10-30 Thread Marlin Halverson

Dear Izzy,

Jesus spoke of him.  John 8:44
It is not popular to believe Jesus.
In fact, a lot of people were upset with Him.
I only know what my Lord and Savior tells me.

EPH 6:12For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against
principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the
darkness
of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places].

Love,

Marlin

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> Marlin,
>
> So who's jesting? I'm a plain spoken gal, if you haven't noticed. When
> I'm jesting I think I make that quite clear.
>
> I am personally suspicious of anyone who accuses others of being liars
> and manipulators. My first impulse is to want facts; not innuendos. My
> experience is that there are usually three fingers pointing back at the
> person doing the pointing. (Someone I know to be extremely honest and
> full of integrity has been smeared for years as a "liar and manipulator"
> by two people with morality on the level of pond scum.) You can't even
> be up front about who you are pointing at. If you wish to be clear about
> whom you are accusing of what, we might come to some useful dialogue
> here. Walk in the light of factual truth; not in the shadows of
> innuendo.
>
> "Let your Yes be Yes, and your No be No. Anything beyond than that comes
> from the evil one."
>
> Izzy
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:TruthTalk-owner@;mail.innglory.org] On Behalf Of Marlin Halverson
> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 1:12 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Courtesy of Lamar, a Net Friend
>
> Dear Izzy,
>
> I assume that this forum is based upon some sense of God ruling the
> universe, and what he reveals, and what we seek.
>
> Human conflict must be viewed through spiritual discernment.  Even those
> who
> do not have this faculty exercised and strong may use the lists in Gal.
> 5 as
> a guide to identify the motives of men.  The carnal intellect alone can
> do
> that with these lists, but tuning in to the Holy Spirit is a more
> excellent
> way.
>
> Lies have a purpose.  The purpose is to serve the one originating the
> lies.
> Duly manipulated, purveyors of the lies either blindly or knowingly
> perpetuate the lies to the same end.  I have seen lies showered over
> martyrs.  But the martyrs, a Greek word that means witnesses, must
> always
> hold to the truth.  This takes discernment and effort.
>
> There is the truth of an attitude and spirit behind such jesting.  The
> attitude is based upon superficial understanding of the evidence.  Such
> understanding is judgment.  But we must have righteous judgment, or
> judge
> not at all, that we be not judged.  Put the evidence on trial.  This
> takes
> diligence and work.  Without diligence and work, truth will not be
> appreciated.
>
> Again, ask who benefits?  Who benefits from the conflicts?  Who serves
> that
> power?
>
> With Love,
>
> Marlin
>
> P.S.
>
> "And why didn't you answer my questions?"
>
> I am not your lord that I should be telling you what to think.  The only
> answers that matter to you are the ones that you are at liberty to see.
> What matters is what your Lord reveals to you.  The more you see, the
> more
> sorrow you will have.  The more you see, the more you will be judged.
> Jesus
> did not always give a straight answer to explain what He could see.
> There
> were reasons for this.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 8:54 AM
> Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Courtesy of Lamar, a Net Friend
>
>
> > That's funny; your website was all about Jews and Arabs, etc. --
> nothing
> > about "whom we serve". So why the discrepancy? And why didn't you
> answer
> > my questions? Izzy
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:TruthTalk-owner@;mail.innglory.org] On Behalf Of Marlin
> Halverson
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 7:00 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Courtesy of Lamar, a Net Friend
> >
> > Dear Izzy,
> >
> > This is not about Jews and Arabs.  This is about whom we serve.
> Bottom
> > Line:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with s

RE: [TruthTalk] Courtesy of Lamar, a Net Friend

2002-10-30 Thread ShieldsFamily
Marlin,

So who's jesting? I'm a plain spoken gal, if you haven't noticed. When
I'm jesting I think I make that quite clear. 

I am personally suspicious of anyone who accuses others of being liars
and manipulators. My first impulse is to want facts; not innuendos. My
experience is that there are usually three fingers pointing back at the
person doing the pointing. (Someone I know to be extremely honest and
full of integrity has been smeared for years as a "liar and manipulator"
by two people with morality on the level of pond scum.) You can't even
be up front about who you are pointing at. If you wish to be clear about
whom you are accusing of what, we might come to some useful dialogue
here. Walk in the light of factual truth; not in the shadows of
innuendo.

"Let your Yes be Yes, and your No be No. Anything beyond than that comes
from the evil one." 

Izzy


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[mailto:TruthTalk-owner@;mail.innglory.org] On Behalf Of Marlin Halverson
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 1:12 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Courtesy of Lamar, a Net Friend

Dear Izzy,

I assume that this forum is based upon some sense of God ruling the
universe, and what he reveals, and what we seek.

Human conflict must be viewed through spiritual discernment.  Even those
who
do not have this faculty exercised and strong may use the lists in Gal.
5 as
a guide to identify the motives of men.  The carnal intellect alone can
do
that with these lists, but tuning in to the Holy Spirit is a more
excellent
way.

Lies have a purpose.  The purpose is to serve the one originating the
lies.
Duly manipulated, purveyors of the lies either blindly or knowingly
perpetuate the lies to the same end.  I have seen lies showered over
martyrs.  But the martyrs, a Greek word that means witnesses, must
always
hold to the truth.  This takes discernment and effort.

There is the truth of an attitude and spirit behind such jesting.  The
attitude is based upon superficial understanding of the evidence.  Such
understanding is judgment.  But we must have righteous judgment, or
judge
not at all, that we be not judged.  Put the evidence on trial.  This
takes
diligence and work.  Without diligence and work, truth will not be
appreciated.

Again, ask who benefits?  Who benefits from the conflicts?  Who serves
that
power?

With Love,

Marlin

P.S.

"And why didn't you answer my questions?"

I am not your lord that I should be telling you what to think.  The only
answers that matter to you are the ones that you are at liberty to see.
What matters is what your Lord reveals to you.  The more you see, the
more
sorrow you will have.  The more you see, the more you will be judged.
Jesus
did not always give a straight answer to explain what He could see.
There
were reasons for this.

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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 8:54 AM
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Courtesy of Lamar, a Net Friend


> That's funny; your website was all about Jews and Arabs, etc. --
nothing
> about "whom we serve". So why the discrepancy? And why didn't you
answer
> my questions? Izzy
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:TruthTalk-owner@;mail.innglory.org] On Behalf Of Marlin
Halverson
> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 7:00 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Courtesy of Lamar, a Net Friend
>
> Dear Izzy,
>
> This is not about Jews and Arabs.  This is about whom we serve.
Bottom
> Line:
>
>
>
>
> --
> "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you
may
know how you ought to answer every man."  (Colossians 4:6)
http://www.InnGlory.org
>
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Re: [TruthTalk] Courtesy of Lamar, a Net Friend

2002-10-30 Thread GJTabor
Martin, I'm not sure where you are coming from.  I personally don't have time to play secrets with you as I am "building the wall" and don't have time to come down.  Remember Sanballet?  
   If you want to tell us what you're talking about, fine, if not, fine.  

Dear Izzy,

I assume that this forum is based upon some sense of God ruling the
universe, and what he reveals, and what we seek.

Human conflict must be viewed through spiritual discernment.  Even those who
do not have this faculty exercised and strong may use the lists in Gal. 5 as
a guide to identify the motives of men.  The carnal intellect alone can do
that with these lists, but tuning in to the Holy Spirit is a more excellent
way.

Lies have a purpose.  The purpose is to serve the one originating the lies.
Duly manipulated, purveyors of the lies either blindly or knowingly
perpetuate the lies to the same end.  I have seen lies showered over
martyrs.  But the martyrs, a Greek word that means witnesses, must always
hold to the truth.  This takes discernment and effort.

There is the truth of an attitude and spirit behind such jesting.  The
attitude is based upon superficial understanding of the evidence.  Such
understanding is judgment.  But we must have righteous judgment, or judge
not at all, that we be not judged.  Put the evidence on trial.  This takes
diligence and work.  Without diligence and work, truth will not be
appreciated.

Again, ask who benefits?  Who benefits from the conflicts?  Who serves that
power?

With Love,

Marlin

P.S.

"And why didn't you answer my questions?"

I am not your lord that I should be telling you what to think.  The only
answers that matter to you are the ones that you are at liberty to see.
What matters is what your Lord reveals to you.  The more you see, the more
sorrow you will have.  The more you see, the more you will be judged.  Jesus
did not always give a straight answer to explain what He could see.  There
were reasons for this.


Glenn - Are you claiming to be Jesus?   

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Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 8:54 AM
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Courtesy of Lamar, a Net Friend


> That's funny; your website was all about Jews and Arabs, etc. -- nothing
> about "whom we serve". So why the discrepancy? And why didn't you answer
> my questions? Izzy
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Marlin Halverson
> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 7:00 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Courtesy of Lamar, a Net Friend
>
> Dear Izzy,
>
> This is not about Jews and Arabs.  This is about whom we serve.  Bottom
> Line:
>




Re: [TruthTalk] Courtesy of Lamar, a Net Friend

2002-10-30 Thread Marlin Halverson
Dear Dave,

I do not know whether the deceitful manipulator has a preference for the
race or politics of the "peacemaker" who shall appear as an angel of light.
He may even be an equal opportunity employer.

He will think to change some things, if you recall.  Much has already been
accomplished.

Love,

Marlin


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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 9:46 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Courtesy of Lamar, a Net Friend


> Marlin wrote:
> > With the heightened "security" we are closer than
> > ever before to this:
> >
> > And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor,
> > free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or
> > in their foreheads:  And that no man might buy or sell,
> > save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or
> > the number of his name.  Here is wisdom.  Let him that
> > hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it
> > is the number of a man; and his number [is] Six hundred
> > threescore [and] six.  Rev. 13:16-18
> >
> > Some people will be glad to have the mark because
> > they will want the benefits.
> >
> > The one who orchestrates such tragedies has pawns
> > at many levels; The pawns all answer to the author
> > of all the hatred, the murderer from the beginning.
> > We need to answer to the Author of all love, the
> > giver of life from the beginning.
>
> You make an important point that there is a bigger picture to all of what
> has happened.  This is not just about some Jewish / Arab / American
> conflict.  Nevertheless, you are not saying what you really think.  Your
> speech is veiled.
>
> You mention a man in Rev. 13 quoted above.  In your opinion, will this man
> be:
>
> 1.  A Jewish "peacemaker"
>
> 2.  A Muslim "peacemaker"
>
> 3.  An American "peacemaker"
>
> I put peacemaker in quotes because he is actually a destroyer, but he
> represents himself as a peacemaker.  If I had to guess, I think you would
> pick 3, but I personally think it will be 2.  Am I reading between your
> lines correctly?  :-)
>
> Peace be with you.
> David Miller.
>
> --
> "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may
know how you ought to answer every man."  (Colossians 4:6)
http://www.InnGlory.org
>
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Re: [TruthTalk] Courtesy of Lamar, a Net Friend

2002-10-30 Thread Marlin Halverson
Dear Izzy,

I assume that this forum is based upon some sense of God ruling the
universe, and what he reveals, and what we seek.

Human conflict must be viewed through spiritual discernment.  Even those who
do not have this faculty exercised and strong may use the lists in Gal. 5 as
a guide to identify the motives of men.  The carnal intellect alone can do
that with these lists, but tuning in to the Holy Spirit is a more excellent
way.

Lies have a purpose.  The purpose is to serve the one originating the lies.
Duly manipulated, purveyors of the lies either blindly or knowingly
perpetuate the lies to the same end.  I have seen lies showered over
martyrs.  But the martyrs, a Greek word that means witnesses, must always
hold to the truth.  This takes discernment and effort.

There is the truth of an attitude and spirit behind such jesting.  The
attitude is based upon superficial understanding of the evidence.  Such
understanding is judgment.  But we must have righteous judgment, or judge
not at all, that we be not judged.  Put the evidence on trial.  This takes
diligence and work.  Without diligence and work, truth will not be
appreciated.

Again, ask who benefits?  Who benefits from the conflicts?  Who serves that
power?

With Love,

Marlin

P.S.

"And why didn't you answer my questions?"

I am not your lord that I should be telling you what to think.  The only
answers that matter to you are the ones that you are at liberty to see.
What matters is what your Lord reveals to you.  The more you see, the more
sorrow you will have.  The more you see, the more you will be judged.  Jesus
did not always give a straight answer to explain what He could see.  There
were reasons for this.

- Original Message -
From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 8:54 AM
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Courtesy of Lamar, a Net Friend


> That's funny; your website was all about Jews and Arabs, etc. -- nothing
> about "whom we serve". So why the discrepancy? And why didn't you answer
> my questions? Izzy
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:TruthTalk-owner@;mail.innglory.org] On Behalf Of Marlin Halverson
> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 7:00 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Courtesy of Lamar, a Net Friend
>
> Dear Izzy,
>
> This is not about Jews and Arabs.  This is about whom we serve.  Bottom
> Line:
>
>
>
>
> --
> "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may
know how you ought to answer every man."  (Colossians 4:6)
http://www.InnGlory.org
>
> If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to
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Re: [TruthTalk] Courtesy of Lamar, a Net Friend

2002-10-30 Thread David Miller
Marlin wrote:
> With the heightened "security" we are closer than
> ever before to this:
>
> And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor,
> free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or
> in their foreheads:  And that no man might buy or sell,
> save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or
> the number of his name.  Here is wisdom.  Let him that
> hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it
> is the number of a man; and his number [is] Six hundred
> threescore [and] six.  Rev. 13:16-18
>
> Some people will be glad to have the mark because
> they will want the benefits.
>
> The one who orchestrates such tragedies has pawns
> at many levels; The pawns all answer to the author
> of all the hatred, the murderer from the beginning.
> We need to answer to the Author of all love, the
> giver of life from the beginning.

You make an important point that there is a bigger picture to all of what
has happened.  This is not just about some Jewish / Arab / American
conflict.  Nevertheless, you are not saying what you really think.  Your
speech is veiled.

You mention a man in Rev. 13 quoted above.  In your opinion, will this man
be:

1.  A Jewish "peacemaker"

2.  A Muslim "peacemaker"

3.  An American "peacemaker"

I put peacemaker in quotes because he is actually a destroyer, but he
represents himself as a peacemaker.  If I had to guess, I think you would
pick 3, but I personally think it will be 2.  Am I reading between your
lines correctly?  :-)

Peace be with you.
David Miller.

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2002-10-30 Thread ShieldsFamily
That's funny; your website was all about Jews and Arabs, etc. -- nothing
about "whom we serve". So why the discrepancy? And why didn't you answer
my questions? Izzy



-Original Message-
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[mailto:TruthTalk-owner@;mail.innglory.org] On Behalf Of Marlin Halverson
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 7:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Courtesy of Lamar, a Net Friend

Dear Izzy,

This is not about Jews and Arabs.  This is about whom we serve.  Bottom
Line:




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Re: [TruthTalk] Courtesy of Lamar, a Net Friend

2002-10-29 Thread Marlin Halverson
Dear Izzy,

This is not about Jews and Arabs.  This is about whom we serve.  Bottom
Line:

"Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth
him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; And saith unto
him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship
me.  Then saith Jesus unto him, {Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written,
Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.}"  Matt.
4:8-10

The devil has been around a lot longer than you or me, and is a master of
deceit.  Who benefits?  How many rights have the masses been willing to give
up for "security?"

Now, look at one of several tid bits given by our loving creator for those
who have ears to hear and eyes to see.  With the heightened "security" we
are closer than ever before to this:

And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to
receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:  And that no man
might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or
the number of his name.  Here is wisdom.  Let him that hath understanding
count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number
[is] Six hundred threescore [and] six.  Rev. 13:16-18

Some people will be glad to have the mark because they will want the
benefits.

The one who orchestrates such tragedies has pawns at many levels; The pawns
all answer to the author of all the hatred, the murderer from the beginning.
We need to answer to the Author of all love, the giver of life from the
beginning.

Love,

Marlin

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Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 5:15 PM
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Courtesy of Lamar, a Net Friend


> Excuse me, but the questions on that website were a bit overwhelming.
> Why don't you cut the trivial pursuit and tell us what's the bottom
> line? Are you saying the Arabs have a right to hate the Jews? Are you
> saying the Arabs are innocent in the WTC attack?
>
> Izzy
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:TruthTalk-owner@;mail.innglory.org] On Behalf Of Marlin Halverson
> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 12:32 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Courtesy of Lamar, a Net Friend
>
> Dear Brethren,
>
> I hope the Lord can open some of your eyes regarding this hatred between
> Jews and Arabs.  Sometimes we cannot see the real players because we are
> so
> busy being the pawns and believing everything that is being dished out
> to us
> by a controlled media.  These Arabs are descendents of Abraham too, and
> eligible for salvation through Jesus.  The recent WTC incident is not
> all
> that it appears to be on the surface.  YOU HAVE TO DIG FOR TRUTH.  I
> hope
> you are sufficiently challenged by the questions listed at this web site
> to
> dig deeper:
>
> http://www.apfn.org/apfn/WTC_questions.htm
>
> There are other motives at work in this conflict, not Godly motives.
> Who
> benefits?
>
> Love,
>
> Marlin
>
> - Original Message -
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 11:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Courtesy of Lamar, a Net Friend
>
>
> > Perfect, Dave.  I had to forward that one!!  Blainer
> >
> > On Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:06:51 -0800 Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >
> > > WE WOULD RATHER DO BUSINESS WITH 1000 ARAB TERRORISTS THAN WITH A
> > > SINGLE
> > >
> > > JEW
> > > You may be asking what business would dare post such a sign?
> > >
> > > ..Goldberg's Funeral Home
>
> --
> "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may
> know how you ought to answer every man."  (Colossians 4:6)
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Re: [TruthTalk] Courtesy of Lamar, a Net Friend

2002-10-29 Thread GJTabor
I looked at it and thought it was propaganda.  But hey, I believe Islam is a violent religion.  I believe it's founder was a terrorist.  I have yet to hear an outcry from American Islam leaders against Jihad.  

Excuse me, but the questions on that website were a bit overwhelming.
Why don't you cut the trivial pursuit and tell us what's the bottom
line? Are you saying the Arabs have a right to hate the Jews? Are you
saying the Arabs are innocent in the WTC attack? 

Izzy




RE: [TruthTalk] Courtesy of Lamar, a Net Friend

2002-10-29 Thread ShieldsFamily
Excuse me, but the questions on that website were a bit overwhelming.
Why don't you cut the trivial pursuit and tell us what's the bottom
line? Are you saying the Arabs have a right to hate the Jews? Are you
saying the Arabs are innocent in the WTC attack? 

Izzy

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[mailto:TruthTalk-owner@;mail.innglory.org] On Behalf Of Marlin Halverson
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 12:32 PM
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Dear Brethren,

I hope the Lord can open some of your eyes regarding this hatred between
Jews and Arabs.  Sometimes we cannot see the real players because we are
so
busy being the pawns and believing everything that is being dished out
to us
by a controlled media.  These Arabs are descendents of Abraham too, and
eligible for salvation through Jesus.  The recent WTC incident is not
all
that it appears to be on the surface.  YOU HAVE TO DIG FOR TRUTH.  I
hope
you are sufficiently challenged by the questions listed at this web site
to
dig deeper:

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/WTC_questions.htm

There are other motives at work in this conflict, not Godly motives.
Who
benefits?

Love,

Marlin

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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Courtesy of Lamar, a Net Friend


> Perfect, Dave.  I had to forward that one!!  Blainer
>
> On Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:06:51 -0800 Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > WE WOULD RATHER DO BUSINESS WITH 1000 ARAB TERRORISTS THAN WITH A
> > SINGLE
> >
> > JEW
> > You may be asking what business would dare post such a sign?
> >
> > ..Goldberg's Funeral Home

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Re: [TruthTalk] Courtesy of Lamar, a Net Friend

2002-10-29 Thread Marlin Halverson
Dear Brethren,

I hope the Lord can open some of your eyes regarding this hatred between
Jews and Arabs.  Sometimes we cannot see the real players because we are so
busy being the pawns and believing everything that is being dished out to us
by a controlled media.  These Arabs are descendents of Abraham too, and
eligible for salvation through Jesus.  The recent WTC incident is not all
that it appears to be on the surface.  YOU HAVE TO DIG FOR TRUTH.  I hope
you are sufficiently challenged by the questions listed at this web site to
dig deeper:

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/WTC_questions.htm

There are other motives at work in this conflict, not Godly motives.  Who
benefits?

Love,

Marlin

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Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 11:30 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Courtesy of Lamar, a Net Friend


> Perfect, Dave.  I had to forward that one!!  Blainer
>
> On Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:06:51 -0800 Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > WE WOULD RATHER DO BUSINESS WITH 1000 ARAB TERRORISTS THAN WITH A
> > SINGLE
> >
> > JEW
> > You may be asking what business would dare post such a sign?
> >
> > ..Goldberg's Funeral Home

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Re: [TruthTalk] Courtesy of Lamar, a Net Friend

2002-10-28 Thread bborrow26
Perfect, Dave.  I had to forward that one!!  Blainer

On Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:06:51 -0800 Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>  
> WE WOULD RATHER DO BUSINESS WITH 1000 ARAB TERRORISTS THAN WITH A 
> SINGLE
> 
> JEW
> ~
> This sign was prominently displayed in the window of a business in
> Philadelphia. Most would be outraged at the thought of such an
> inflammatory
> statement...
> 
> One would think that anti-hate groups from all across the country 
> would
> be
> marching on this business and that the National Guard might have to 
> be
> called to keep the angry crowds back...
> 
> But, perhaps in these stressful times one might be tempted to let the
> proprietors simply make their statement. We are a society who holds
> Freedom of Speech as perhaps our greatest liberty and after all it is
> just a
> sign...
> 
> You may be asking what business would dare post such a sign?
> 
> ..Goldberg's Funeral Home
>  
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