Re: [tryton-dev] Re: Workflow

2013-06-14 Thread Albert Cervera i Areny
A Dijous 13 Juny 2013 18:49:33, Rafael Hernández va escriure:
 This would also apply to OpenERP ?

If this means that it doesn't follow the workflowpatterns initiative, yes. 
However, OpenERP stuff should be discussed in their mailing lists.

 
 
 El jueves, 13 de junio de 2013 03:19:24 UTC-4:30, Albert Cervera i Areny
 
 escribió:
  El dijous 13 de juny de 2013 3:21:14 UTC+2, Rafael Hernández va escriure:
  tryton workflow It is based on the Workflow Patterns
  initiativehttp://www.workflowpatterns.com/. ?
  
  It is not, but there is a python implementation named SpiffWorkflow [1]
  which in its latest versions it has some support for BPMNv2. I think it
  would be a nice addition to the Tryton framework. Note however, that it
  should not replace existing workflow which is a single-document artifact.
  A workflow like the one you propose should make use of the rest of the
  framework, possibly taking advantage of things like tasks and triggers.
  
  [1] https://github.com/knipknap/SpiffWorkflow

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Re: [tryton-es] TPV + bascula

2013-06-14 Thread Jordi Esteve

Hola Oscar,

On 27/05/13 15:49, Oscar Alvarez wrote:

El 26/05/13 13:01, Javier Villarroya escribió:

Buenas,

Necesitaría integrar el TPV (aunque no se en que estado de desarrollo 
esta) con una bascula de pesaje.
¿Alguien ha hecho algo así? ¿Lo veis factible para un entorno de 
producción o esta aun algo verde?


Saludos y gracias


Javier

Todo es factible, yo hice un fork del POS ver 2.2 a la versión 2.6 y 
lo publique en Bitbucket:


https://bitbucket.org/camus77/trytond_pos_client_presik-2.6.0

es plenamente funcional y tiene muchas mejoras respecto a la versión 
anterior, [1] (ojo que solo
funciona con una versión de proteus de la cual hice un fork) ahora 
estoy casi
por terminar la migración a la versión 2.8 con otras mejoras y 
probablemente lo integre con un sistema de
basculas sin embargo, no tengo bascula para empezar a hacer pruebas, 
en este momento por eso estoy frenado
solo habria que saber usar un modulo llamado pyserial para que 
funcione, buscalo.


[1] https://bitbucket.org/camus77/trytond_proteus_presik-2.6.1



Estoy interesado en probar el POS que has mejorado para la 2.6 en la 
2.8. Comentas que estás a punto de terminar la migración a 2.8, he 
estado buscando en bitbucket pero no he encontrado ningún 
trytond_pos_client_presik-2.8.0.


Por otra parte quería preguntarte cuales son los motivos por los que 
hiciste un fork de proteus: Cuales son los cambios que has introducido y 
si sería interesante que los tuviera el proteus oficial.


Necesitamos un TPV para un proyecto sobre Tryton y queremos evaluar cual 
sería la mejor opción, si usar y mejorar el módulo 
trytond_pos_client_presik-2.8.0 sobre el que estás trabajando o bien 
crear un módulo convencional de tryton tipo sale_pos que usara la 
interfaz convencional de tryton y fuera como las ventas del módulo sale 
(objeto sale.sale) pero simplificadas (albaranes+facturación automáticos).


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Re: [tryton] Re: Contact Mechanisms - per Party versus per Address/Contact

2013-06-14 Thread Guillem Barba Domingo
El 13/06/2013 10:58, Cédric Krier cedric.kr...@b2ck.com va escriure:

 On 13/06/13 10:38 +0200, Axel Braun wrote:
  Am Donnerstag, 13. Juni 2013, 01:26:25 schrieb Chris Larsen:
   Thanks everybody for your very helpful replies. Cédric, allow me to
explain
   how I understand Parties versus Addresses:
   If I have one big company as a customer, and this company is one
party,
   then I will invariably end up with several contacts within that parts
(=
   big company) with their related telephone numbers and other contact
   mechanisms.
 
  ..a prerequisite for proper contact management and CRM

 You just name it: CRM where C=party R=relation. So we just need
 relations between parties.

I think these are different questions. CRM refers to the management of
comunication (and more) with your customers (from the company's point of
view), not about the relationship between parties (data in your information
system). It is more generic than CRM.
Anyway, it isn't the discussion.

  I had a look at this repository as well, lots of useful stuff in it! Is
there
  a reason why these modules are kept away from the Tryton standard repo?

 The main issue is the mixin of address and contact/party.

The Tryton Standard Repository is for generic modules, which could be
considered *framework* (sometimes it is a subjective consideration).

In TrytonSpain there are modules that could be included in this definition
(and we hope they will be moved to tryton's community infrastructure, in a
similar way that Nereid), others which are so generic to be useful for
other ERP implementors and some are specific for Spain. All of them are
opened to community feedback (and contributions ;-)).

Some months ago was created the tryton-contrib list [1] to discuss and
manage these kind of modules; modules which are part of Tryton's ecosystem
but not par ot its core. For now, this list is the unique infraestructure
to *manage* these modules (each member is doing in his own way, we chose
Bitbucket and create a community team TrytonSpain). Something like *Apps
website* where have a complete list of all contrib modules is an
interesting idea which has discussed a little bit. Raimon has developed a
first aproximation [2][3] and I wish that in a medium term I'll extend
these idea (now we have other priorities).

*To summarise*, TrytonSpain modules are part of Tryton ecosystem. Now, we
are in the spring to have a usable spanish localization so we decided to
develop some of our requirements in our own way assuming that the modules
which will be included in Tryton's core could be modified (improved). We
will work in these inclusion in the future. As Ramimon said before, if
there are someone interested in the inclusion sooner, he is free to open
the discussion in this list (or tryton-dev list [4]).

[1] http://groups.google.com/group/tryton-contrib/

[2] https://bitbucket.org/trytonspain/flask-appstryton

[3] http://apps.tryton-erp.es/

[4] https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/tryton-dev


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[tryton] tryton-contrib : How to?

2013-06-14 Thread Romain Séon
2013/6/14 Guillem Barba Domingo guillemba...@gmail.com

 The Tryton Standard Repository is for generic modules, which could be
 considered *framework* (sometimes it is a subjective consideration).

I think this is not linked to the initial subject, so I'm starting a new
one

 In TrytonSpain there are modules that could be included in this definition
 (and we hope they will be moved to tryton's community infrastructure, in a
 similar way that Nereid), others which are so generic to be useful for
 other ERP implementors and some are specific for Spain. All of them are
 opened to community feedback (and contributions ;-)).

+1 in here, we have developed some things that could be of interest for
others (well, we hope so)

 Some months ago was created the tryton-contrib list [1] to discuss and
 manage these kind of modules; modules which are part of Tryton's ecosystem
 but not par ot its core. For now, this list is the unique infraestructure
 to *manage* these modules (each member is doing in his own way, we chose
 Bitbucket and create a community team TrytonSpain). Something like *Apps
 website* where have a complete list of all contrib modules is an
 interesting idea which has discussed a little bit. Raimon has developed a
 first aproximation [2][3] and I wish that in a medium term I'll extend
 these idea (now we have other priorities).

The tryton-contrib mailing-list is the first step, but there is still work
to be done. There is a lot fewer people on tryton-contrib than on this
list. The website, is an excellent idea, this way we could gather the
different needs, the modules already available and decide which modules
need to be integrated in the core and how to process. But maybe, an english
website would be more suitable for international needs :)

 *To summarise*, TrytonSpain modules are part of Tryton ecosystem. Now, we
 are in the spring to have a usable spanish localization so we decided to
 develop some of our requirements in our own way assuming that the modules
 which will be included in Tryton's core could be modified (improved). We
 will work in these inclusion in the future. As Ramimon said before, if
 there are someone interested in the inclusion sooner, he is free to open
 the discussion in this list (or tryton-dev list [4]).

This could be a good subject for the TUB, but as a result of the last year
TUL, we only ended with a mailing list not very active, so maybe we need to
speed up the process a little bit.
Who is interested on working on this object? I think we need to define what
has to be done (website creation, process definition, ...), who can help
and then we start working seriously on this subject.




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Re: [tryton] tryton-contrib : How to?

2013-06-14 Thread Guillem Barba Domingo
2013/6/14 Romain Séon romain.s...@coopengo.com


 2013/6/14 Guillem Barba Domingo guillemba...@gmail.com

 The Tryton Standard Repository is for generic modules, which could be
 considered *framework* (sometimes it is a subjective consideration).

 I think this is not linked to the initial subject, so I'm starting a new
 one


good

Some months ago was created the tryton-contrib list [1] to discuss and
 manage these kind of modules; modules which are part of Tryton's ecosystem
 but not par ot its core. For now, this list is the unique infraestructure
 to *manage* these modules (each member is doing in his own way, we chose
 Bitbucket and create a community team TrytonSpain). Something like *Apps
 website* where have a complete list of all contrib modules is an
 interesting idea which has discussed a little bit. Raimon has developed a
 first aproximation [2][3] and I wish that in a medium term I'll extend
 these idea (now we have other priorities).

 The tryton-contrib mailing-list is the first step, but there is still work
 to be done. There is a lot fewer people on tryton-contrib than on this
 list. The website, is an excellent idea, this way we could gather the
 different needs, the modules already available and decide which modules
 need to be integrated in the core and how to process. But maybe, an english
 website would be more suitable for international needs :)


Of course, mailing list is the first little step.
About english website... the target of tryton-erp.es is spanish customers
(is a commercial initiative). Bitbucket is more community and README are
allways in english. Issues not allways because it is used basically to
coordinate our (current spanish active members) work. For now (very few
active members with lot of work) we can't dedicate more resources to
community work.

 *To summarise*, TrytonSpain modules are part of Tryton ecosystem. Now, we
 are in the spring to have a usable spanish localization so we decided to
 develop some of our requirements in our own way assuming that the modules
 which will be included in Tryton's core could be modified (improved). We
 will work in these inclusion in the future. As Ramimon said before, if
 there are someone interested in the inclusion sooner, he is free to open
 the discussion in this list (or tryton-dev list [4]).

 This could be a good subject for the TUB, but as a result of the last year
 TUL, we only ended with a mailing list not very active, so maybe we need to
 speed up the process a little bit.
 Who is interested on working on this object? I think we need to define
 what has to be done (website creation, process definition, ...), who can
 help and then we start working seriously on this subject.


The beginnings are always slow. I think this year could be a turning point.
We become active members, Latin americans are improving their community
[1]... and we hope we will have spanish localization very advanced for the
TUB so, we could dedicate some resources in community stuff (I'm thinking
in this *apps/contrib * expected website).

So, I think it will be very, very interesting to talk about it in the TUB:
* tryton apps website: yes/no (there is Pypi selector [2]), which features
(version selector, maturity state, source location, issue tracking), based
on opencomparision? [3]
* contrib modules community organization: localizations, by functional
areas, all-in-one..., under tryton.org umbrella or not
I tried to edit the TUB wiki page but I haven't permissions

*Disclaimer*: all this e-mail is in my opinion. I talked about other people
but from my point of view. Sorry if I said something wrong.

[1] http://www.tryton-latam.com/
[2] https://pypi.python.org/pypi?:action=browseshow=allc=551
[3] http://opencomparison.org/


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Re: [tryton] Reorder workflow

2013-06-14 Thread Cédric Krier
On 14/06/13 09:08 -0700, Josias Erasmo Pérez Gómez wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I want to know is there a method to automatically generate reorder point 
 from sales.
 
 For example, make a sale of 30 units of product B, but in stock only have 
 10 units. 
 
 At the same time, Product B is made from 10 units of products A which are 
 purchased.
 
 When the sale is confirmed, a draft order production is generated, for 30 
 units of product. At the same time, if in stock does not have the necessary 
 requirement of product A, then a purchase order is generated too ( 30 * 10 
 units).

Yes, you need stock_supply module to generate purchase request and
stock_supply_production module to generate production request.

http://doc.tryton.org/2.8/modules/stock_supply/doc/index.html#stock-supply-module
http://doc.tryton.org/2.8/modules/stock_supply_production/doc/index.html#stock-supply-production-module

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