Re: JIRA-1673 and SDO dependencies for SCA 1.0 release, was Fwd: SCA 1.0 release (was Re: Release management for next release, was: SCA 0.92 release?

2007-09-11 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino

kelvin goodson wrote:

Luciano,

  can you confirm in the JIRA whether the updated fix is good? I'll
keep an eye on this thread to see how your plans develop,  and what
that might mean for SDO release plans.

Kelvin.

On 10/09/2007, Luciano Resende [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

We have found an issue on the SDO Tools, described in JIRA-1673 [1]
that is affecting the proper generation of java interfaces from a
given wsdl.

What's the plan to get this fix, when available, in SCA 1.0 release ?
This might require a new SDO release ?

[1] http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-1673




I have checked in a workaround for this problem under revision r574423.

We should leverage the SDO fix as soon as it's in an SDO release, but 
the workaround in place in r574423 will allow a Tuscany SCA 1.0 release 
to work with the published SDO 1.0 release.


I can't comment on the SDO fix as I've just looked into the workaround, 
but Luciano probably can.


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JIRA-1673 and SDO dependencies for SCA 1.0 release, was Fwd: SCA 1.0 release (was Re: Release management for next release, was: SCA 0.92 release?

2007-09-10 Thread Luciano Resende
We have found an issue on the SDO Tools, described in JIRA-1673 [1]
that is affecting the proper generation of java interfaces from a
given wsdl.

What's the plan to get this fix, when available, in SCA 1.0 release ?
This might require a new SDO release ?

[1] http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-1673

On 9/3/07, Luciano Resende [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Great, so looks like we would need a DAS release compatible with SDO
 1.0 in order to include any SCA/DAS integration in the SCA 1.0
 release. I'll try to get that done, by cutting a branch and working on
 a DAS release sometime this week. Please let me know if there is any
 changes in plan.

 On 8/28/07, kelvin goodson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  There are no plans in place yet for the next SDO release.
  1.0-incubating would seem the obvious choice.
 
  Kelvin.
 
  On 28/08/07, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   That would be my guess unless there's a newer SDO release by then but i've
   not seen any mention of that in the SDO emails.
  
...ant
  
   On 8/27/07, Luciano Resende [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
What are you guys thinking about SDO requirements for SCA 1.0 release
? SDO 1.0-incubating ?
   
-- Forwarded message --
From: Simon Laws [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Aug 27, 2007 2:58 AM
Subject: Re: SCA 1.0 release (was Re: Release management for next
release, was: SCA 0.92 release?
To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   
On 8/27/07, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 8/9/07, Venkata Krishnan [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

 snip

 - Post 0.95, maybe a couple of weeks after the release, we'd cut
  another branch and head with that for 1.0 release.   Being a 1.0
  release, we prob. need a branch early as that so that we can whet 
  the
  things we are targetting for the release.


 This seems like a really good idea to me. The 0.99 release has again
shown
 that it always takes at least a couple of RCs to discover and resolve
 regressions caused by last minute changes and to polish up the 
 samples,
 and
 for 1.0 we're all likely to be a bit more pedantic about readme and
sample
 problems. How about aiming for a 1.0 branch and RC1 around the 14th of
 September? That gives 3 weeks from now for getting things ready and 
 then
 two
 weeks which should enough for 2 or 3 RCs and voting and still get a 
 1.0in
 September.

 I've created a 1.0 JIRA version and started moving into there JIRAs 
 i'd
 like
 to try to get done for 1.0 :


http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=truemode=hidesorter/order=DESCsorter/field=priorityresolution=-1pid=12310210fixfor=12312698


 One thing that would be good to do now while they're fresh in our 
 minds
is
 for people to commit fixes to trunk for all the sample and readme 
 issues
 they reported in the 0.99 review so they don't get forgotten till
 1.0review.

...ant

+1 from me. I think we are going to need the extra time to fix the many
small things we found this time round.
   
Simon
   
   
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Re: SDO dependencies for SCA 1.0 release, was Fwd: SCA 1.0 release (was Re: Release management for next release, was: SCA 0.92 release?

2007-09-03 Thread Luciano Resende
Great, so looks like we would need a DAS release compatible with SDO
1.0 in order to include any SCA/DAS integration in the SCA 1.0
release. I'll try to get that done, by cutting a branch and working on
a DAS release sometime this week. Please let me know if there is any
changes in plan.

On 8/28/07, kelvin goodson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 There are no plans in place yet for the next SDO release.
 1.0-incubating would seem the obvious choice.

 Kelvin.

 On 28/08/07, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  That would be my guess unless there's a newer SDO release by then but i've
  not seen any mention of that in the SDO emails.
 
   ...ant
 
  On 8/27/07, Luciano Resende [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   What are you guys thinking about SDO requirements for SCA 1.0 release
   ? SDO 1.0-incubating ?
  
   -- Forwarded message --
   From: Simon Laws [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Date: Aug 27, 2007 2:58 AM
   Subject: Re: SCA 1.0 release (was Re: Release management for next
   release, was: SCA 0.92 release?
   To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
   On 8/27/07, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
On 8/9/07, Venkata Krishnan [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
   
snip
   
- Post 0.95, maybe a couple of weeks after the release, we'd cut
 another branch and head with that for 1.0 release.   Being a 1.0
 release, we prob. need a branch early as that so that we can whet the
 things we are targetting for the release.
   
   
This seems like a really good idea to me. The 0.99 release has again
   shown
that it always takes at least a couple of RCs to discover and resolve
regressions caused by last minute changes and to polish up the samples,
and
for 1.0 we're all likely to be a bit more pedantic about readme and
   sample
problems. How about aiming for a 1.0 branch and RC1 around the 14th of
September? That gives 3 weeks from now for getting things ready and then
two
weeks which should enough for 2 or 3 RCs and voting and still get a 
1.0in
September.
   
I've created a 1.0 JIRA version and started moving into there JIRAs i'd
like
to try to get done for 1.0 :
   
   
   http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=truemode=hidesorter/order=DESCsorter/field=priorityresolution=-1pid=12310210fixfor=12312698
   
   
One thing that would be good to do now while they're fresh in our minds
   is
for people to commit fixes to trunk for all the sample and readme issues
they reported in the 0.99 review so they don't get forgotten till
1.0review.
   
   ...ant
   
   +1 from me. I think we are going to need the extra time to fix the many
   small things we found this time round.
  
   Simon
  
  
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Re: SDO dependencies for SCA 1.0 release, was Fwd: SCA 1.0 release (was Re: Release management for next release, was: SCA 0.92 release?

2007-08-28 Thread ant elder
That would be my guess unless there's a newer SDO release by then but i've
not seen any mention of that in the SDO emails.

 ...ant

On 8/27/07, Luciano Resende [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What are you guys thinking about SDO requirements for SCA 1.0 release
 ? SDO 1.0-incubating ?

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Simon Laws [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Aug 27, 2007 2:58 AM
 Subject: Re: SCA 1.0 release (was Re: Release management for next
 release, was: SCA 0.92 release?
 To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 On 8/27/07, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On 8/9/07, Venkata Krishnan [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
 
  snip
 
  - Post 0.95, maybe a couple of weeks after the release, we'd cut
   another branch and head with that for 1.0 release.   Being a 1.0
   release, we prob. need a branch early as that so that we can whet the
   things we are targetting for the release.
 
 
  This seems like a really good idea to me. The 0.99 release has again
 shown
  that it always takes at least a couple of RCs to discover and resolve
  regressions caused by last minute changes and to polish up the samples,
  and
  for 1.0 we're all likely to be a bit more pedantic about readme and
 sample
  problems. How about aiming for a 1.0 branch and RC1 around the 14th of
  September? That gives 3 weeks from now for getting things ready and then
  two
  weeks which should enough for 2 or 3 RCs and voting and still get a 1.0in
  September.
 
  I've created a 1.0 JIRA version and started moving into there JIRAs i'd
  like
  to try to get done for 1.0 :
 
 
 http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=truemode=hidesorter/order=DESCsorter/field=priorityresolution=-1pid=12310210fixfor=12312698
 
 
  One thing that would be good to do now while they're fresh in our minds
 is
  for people to commit fixes to trunk for all the sample and readme issues
  they reported in the 0.99 review so they don't get forgotten till
  1.0review.
 
 ...ant
 
 +1 from me. I think we are going to need the extra time to fix the many
 small things we found this time round.

 Simon


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Re: SDO dependencies for SCA 1.0 release, was Fwd: SCA 1.0 release (was Re: Release management for next release, was: SCA 0.92 release?

2007-08-28 Thread kelvin goodson
There are no plans in place yet for the next SDO release.
1.0-incubating would seem the obvious choice.

Kelvin.

On 28/08/07, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 That would be my guess unless there's a newer SDO release by then but i've
 not seen any mention of that in the SDO emails.

  ...ant

 On 8/27/07, Luciano Resende [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  What are you guys thinking about SDO requirements for SCA 1.0 release
  ? SDO 1.0-incubating ?
 
  -- Forwarded message --
  From: Simon Laws [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Aug 27, 2007 2:58 AM
  Subject: Re: SCA 1.0 release (was Re: Release management for next
  release, was: SCA 0.92 release?
  To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
  On 8/27/07, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   On 8/9/07, Venkata Krishnan [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
  
   snip
  
   - Post 0.95, maybe a couple of weeks after the release, we'd cut
another branch and head with that for 1.0 release.   Being a 1.0
release, we prob. need a branch early as that so that we can whet the
things we are targetting for the release.
  
  
   This seems like a really good idea to me. The 0.99 release has again
  shown
   that it always takes at least a couple of RCs to discover and resolve
   regressions caused by last minute changes and to polish up the samples,
   and
   for 1.0 we're all likely to be a bit more pedantic about readme and
  sample
   problems. How about aiming for a 1.0 branch and RC1 around the 14th of
   September? That gives 3 weeks from now for getting things ready and then
   two
   weeks which should enough for 2 or 3 RCs and voting and still get a 1.0in
   September.
  
   I've created a 1.0 JIRA version and started moving into there JIRAs i'd
   like
   to try to get done for 1.0 :
  
  
  http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=truemode=hidesorter/order=DESCsorter/field=priorityresolution=-1pid=12310210fixfor=12312698
  
  
   One thing that would be good to do now while they're fresh in our minds
  is
   for people to commit fixes to trunk for all the sample and readme issues
   they reported in the 0.99 review so they don't get forgotten till
   1.0review.
  
  ...ant
  
  +1 from me. I think we are going to need the extra time to fix the many
  small things we found this time round.
 
  Simon
 
 
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Re: SCA 1.0 release (was Re: Release management for next release, was: SCA 0.92 release?

2007-08-28 Thread Simon Nash

Cutting the branch around the 14th to give more time to get the
release into shape sounds good.

We always seems to run into lots of minor sample problems when
we produce an RC and I would expect that we would use some of
the time after cutting the branch to fix these up and polish the
samples.  I'm not sure what we would do about functional problems
after the branch has been cut.  For the 0.9x releases we have
tended to defer many of these JIRAs to the next release.  For 1.0,
I would expect there to be a greater focus on making sure the
function we deliver in this release is working correctly.  So I
could imagine a 1.0 RC respin to fix a JIRA in the branch for a
functional problem that is serious from a user perspective.

Is this in line with others' expectations?

  Simon

Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote:


ant elder wrote:


On 8/9/07, Venkata Krishnan [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

snip

- Post 0.95, maybe a couple of weeks after the release, we'd cut
 


another branch and head with that for 1.0 release.   Being a 1.0
release, we prob. need a branch early as that so that we can whet the
things we are targetting for the release.





This seems like a really good idea to me. The 0.99 release has again 
shown

that it always takes at least a couple of RCs to discover and resolve
regressions caused by last minute changes and to polish up the 
samples, and
for 1.0 we're all likely to be a bit more pedantic about readme and 
sample

problems. How about aiming for a 1.0 branch and RC1 around the 14th of
September? That gives 3 weeks from now for getting things ready and 
then two
weeks which should enough for 2 or 3 RCs and voting and still get a 
1.0 in

September.
  



+1

I've created a 1.0 JIRA version and started moving into there JIRAs 
i'd like

to try to get done for 1.0 :
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=truemode=hidesorter/order=DESCsorter/field=priorityresolution=-1pid=12310210fixfor=12312698 

  



Nice! I think we should all spend a little bit of time now to take look 
at the JIRAs that we ran into recently. I suggest the following:

- target them for SCA-1.0 if you care about them
- volunteer for them and assign to yourself if you really care about 
them :)

- target them for SCA-next if you think they can be handled post 1.0


I'll go over the JIRAs I know enough about in the next 2 days.



One thing that would be good to do now while they're fresh in our 
minds is

for people to commit fixes to trunk for all the sample and readme issues
they reported in the 0.99 review so they don't get forgotten till 
1.0review.


   ...ant

  



+1





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Re: SCA 1.0 release (was Re: Release management for next release, was: SCA 0.92 release?

2007-08-28 Thread ant elder
On the question of differing JIRAs, I think it depends on the JIRA :)

We have to be careful making too many changes in the branch as previously
there's always been regressions due to changes. There's also the question of
who does the work - just raising a JIRA doesn't get the problem fixed and
with the time pressure of getting an RC out there's not so much the release
manager can do with a whole lot of open JIRAs other than defer them.

How about doing these two things:
1) after the branch is cut become more and more strict about not making
changes as RCs are done
2) JIRAs raised as critical or blocking don't deferred without agreement
from the raiser or ML discussion

So that would mean something like: Make an RC1 by the 14th for review, not
really expecting that to be the final 1.0 but having an RC to vote on makes
reviewing easier. The branch would be cut a little before the 14th to get
things ready. People raise JIRAs for issues they find while reviewing and
ideally fix the problem in branch and trunk themselves, but otherwise
general development and changes are kept to a minimum in the branch but
still possible if absolutely required. Then by the 18th start vote/review
for RC2 and from then be more strict about what changes go into the branch,
non-trivial fixes are only moved from trunk to branch after some community
review and permission of the RM. Non critical or blocking JIRAs get
deferred, those blocking ones get discussed and fixed if a volunteer is
found to fix them in a suitable time frame.

That gives time for three or maybe even four RCs and IPMC voting and a
release in September.

   ...ant

On 8/28/07, Simon Nash  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Cutting the branch around the 14th to give more time to get the
 release into shape sounds good.

 We always seems to run into lots of minor sample problems when
 we produce an RC and I would expect that we would use some of
 the time after cutting the branch to fix these up and polish the
 samples.  I'm not sure what we would do about functional problems
 after the branch has been cut.  For the 0.9x releases we have
 tended to defer many of these JIRAs to the next release.  For 1.0,
 I would expect there to be a greater focus on making sure the
 function we deliver in this release is working correctly.  So I
 could imagine a 1.0 RC respin to fix a JIRA in the branch for a
 functional problem that is serious from a user perspective.

 Is this in line with others' expectations?

Simon

 Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote:

  ant elder wrote:
 
  On 8/9/07, Venkata Krishnan  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
 
  snip
 
  - Post 0.95, maybe a couple of weeks after the release, we'd cut
 
 
  another branch and head with that for 1.0 release.   Being a 1.0
  release, we prob. need a branch early as that so that we can whet the
  things we are targetting for the release.
 
 
 
 
  This seems like a really good idea to me. The 0.99 release has again
  shown
  that it always takes at least a couple of RCs to discover and resolve
  regressions caused by last minute changes and to polish up the
  samples, and
  for 1.0 we're all likely to be a bit more pedantic about readme and
  sample
  problems. How about aiming for a 1.0 branch and RC1 around the 14th of
  September? That gives 3 weeks from now for getting things ready and
  then two
  weeks which should enough for 2 or 3 RCs and voting and still get a
  1.0 in
  September.
 
 
 
  +1
 
  I've created a 1.0 JIRA version and started moving into there JIRAs
  i'd like
  to try to get done for 1.0 :
 
 http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=truemode=hidesorter/order=DESCsorter/field=priorityresolution=-1pid=12310210fixfor=12312698
 
 
 
 
  Nice! I think we should all spend a little bit of time now to take look
  at the JIRAs that we ran into recently. I suggest the following:
  - target them for SCA-1.0 if you care about them
  - volunteer for them and assign to yourself if you really care about
  them :)
  - target them for SCA-next if you think they can be handled post 1.0
 
 
  I'll go over the JIRAs I know enough about in the next 2 days.
 
 
  One thing that would be good to do now while they're fresh in our
  minds is
  for people to commit fixes to trunk for all the sample and readme
 issues
  they reported in the 0.99 review so they don't get forgotten till
  1.0review.
 
 ...ant
 
 
 
 
  +1
 



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Re: SCA 1.0 release (was Re: Release management for next release, was: SCA 0.92 release?

2007-08-28 Thread Simon Nash

This sounds pretty close to what I had in mind.  But I'm concerned about
cutting the branch before the 14th.  IMO the 14th is the earliest
possible date we could cut the branch that would allow us to get enough
done in the trunk to put us in a position to move into this more
controlled mode.

  Simon

ant elder wrote:


On the question of differing JIRAs, I think it depends on the JIRA :)

We have to be careful making too many changes in the branch as previously
there's always been regressions due to changes. There's also the question of
who does the work - just raising a JIRA doesn't get the problem fixed and
with the time pressure of getting an RC out there's not so much the release
manager can do with a whole lot of open JIRAs other than defer them.

How about doing these two things:
1) after the branch is cut become more and more strict about not making
changes as RCs are done
2) JIRAs raised as critical or blocking don't deferred without agreement
from the raiser or ML discussion

So that would mean something like: Make an RC1 by the 14th for review, not
really expecting that to be the final 1.0 but having an RC to vote on makes
reviewing easier. The branch would be cut a little before the 14th to get
things ready. People raise JIRAs for issues they find while reviewing and
ideally fix the problem in branch and trunk themselves, but otherwise
general development and changes are kept to a minimum in the branch but
still possible if absolutely required. Then by the 18th start vote/review
for RC2 and from then be more strict about what changes go into the branch,
non-trivial fixes are only moved from trunk to branch after some community
review and permission of the RM. Non critical or blocking JIRAs get
deferred, those blocking ones get discussed and fixed if a volunteer is
found to fix them in a suitable time frame.

That gives time for three or maybe even four RCs and IPMC voting and a
release in September.

   ...ant

On 8/28/07, Simon Nash  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Cutting the branch around the 14th to give more time to get the
release into shape sounds good.

We always seems to run into lots of minor sample problems when
we produce an RC and I would expect that we would use some of
the time after cutting the branch to fix these up and polish the
samples.  I'm not sure what we would do about functional problems
after the branch has been cut.  For the 0.9x releases we have
tended to defer many of these JIRAs to the next release.  For 1.0,
I would expect there to be a greater focus on making sure the
function we deliver in this release is working correctly.  So I
could imagine a 1.0 RC respin to fix a JIRA in the branch for a
functional problem that is serious from a user perspective.

Is this in line with others' expectations?

  Simon

Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote:



ant elder wrote:



On 8/9/07, Venkata Krishnan  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

snip

- Post 0.95, maybe a couple of weeks after the release, we'd cut




another branch and head with that for 1.0 release.   Being a 1.0
release, we prob. need a branch early as that so that we can whet the
things we are targetting for the release.





This seems like a really good idea to me. The 0.99 release has again
shown
that it always takes at least a couple of RCs to discover and resolve
regressions caused by last minute changes and to polish up the
samples, and
for 1.0 we're all likely to be a bit more pedantic about readme and
sample
problems. How about aiming for a 1.0 branch and RC1 around the 14th of
September? That gives 3 weeks from now for getting things ready and
then two
weeks which should enough for 2 or 3 RCs and voting and still get a
1.0 in
September.




+1



I've created a 1.0 JIRA version and started moving into there JIRAs
i'd like
to try to get done for 1.0 :



http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=truemode=hidesorter/order=DESCsorter/field=priorityresolution=-1pid=12310210fixfor=12312698





Nice! I think we should all spend a little bit of time now to take look
at the JIRAs that we ran into recently. I suggest the following:
- target them for SCA-1.0 if you care about them
- volunteer for them and assign to yourself if you really care about
them :)
- target them for SCA-next if you think they can be handled post 1.0


I'll go over the JIRAs I know enough about in the next 2 days.



One thing that would be good to do now while they're fresh in our
minds is
for people to commit fixes to trunk for all the sample and readme


issues


they reported in the 0.99 review so they don't get forgotten till
1.0review.

  ...ant





+1









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Re: SCA 1.0 release (was Re: Release management for next release, was: SCA 0.92 release?

2007-08-28 Thread ant elder
Taking the branch on the 14th and making an RC1 on the 14th is possible,
just the RC is likely to be a little rough as there won't be much time at
all to do checking. But as we're talking about RC1 not expected to be _the_
RC then i guess that could be fine.

   ...ant

On 8/28/07, Simon Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This sounds pretty close to what I had in mind.  But I'm concerned about
 cutting the branch before the 14th.  IMO the 14th is the earliest
 possible date we could cut the branch that would allow us to get enough
 done in the trunk to put us in a position to move into this more
 controlled mode.

Simon

 ant elder wrote:

  On the question of differing JIRAs, I think it depends on the JIRA :)
 
  We have to be careful making too many changes in the branch as
 previously
  there's always been regressions due to changes. There's also the
 question of
  who does the work - just raising a JIRA doesn't get the problem fixed
 and
  with the time pressure of getting an RC out there's not so much the
 release
  manager can do with a whole lot of open JIRAs other than defer them.
 
  How about doing these two things:
  1) after the branch is cut become more and more strict about not making
  changes as RCs are done
  2) JIRAs raised as critical or blocking don't deferred without agreement
  from the raiser or ML discussion
 
  So that would mean something like: Make an RC1 by the 14th for review,
 not
  really expecting that to be the final 1.0 but having an RC to vote on
 makes
  reviewing easier. The branch would be cut a little before the 14th to
 get
  things ready. People raise JIRAs for issues they find while reviewing
 and
  ideally fix the problem in branch and trunk themselves, but otherwise
  general development and changes are kept to a minimum in the branch but
  still possible if absolutely required. Then by the 18th start
 vote/review
  for RC2 and from then be more strict about what changes go into the
 branch,
  non-trivial fixes are only moved from trunk to branch after some
 community
  review and permission of the RM. Non critical or blocking JIRAs get
  deferred, those blocking ones get discussed and fixed if a volunteer is
  found to fix them in a suitable time frame.
 
  That gives time for three or maybe even four RCs and IPMC voting and a
  release in September.
 
 ...ant
 
  On 8/28/07, Simon Nash  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Cutting the branch around the 14th to give more time to get the
 release into shape sounds good.
 
 We always seems to run into lots of minor sample problems when
 we produce an RC and I would expect that we would use some of
 the time after cutting the branch to fix these up and polish the
 samples.  I'm not sure what we would do about functional problems
 after the branch has been cut.  For the 0.9x releases we have
 tended to defer many of these JIRAs to the next release.  For 1.0,
 I would expect there to be a greater focus on making sure the
 function we deliver in this release is working correctly.  So I
 could imagine a 1.0 RC respin to fix a JIRA in the branch for a
 functional problem that is serious from a user perspective.
 
 Is this in line with others' expectations?
 
Simon
 
 Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote:
 
 
 ant elder wrote:
 
 
 On 8/9/07, Venkata Krishnan  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
 
 snip
 
 - Post 0.95, maybe a couple of weeks after the release, we'd cut
 
 
 
 another branch and head with that for 1.0 release.   Being a 1.0
 release, we prob. need a branch early as that so that we can whet the
 things we are targetting for the release.
 
 
 
 
 This seems like a really good idea to me. The 0.99 release has again
 shown
 that it always takes at least a couple of RCs to discover and resolve
 regressions caused by last minute changes and to polish up the
 samples, and
 for 1.0 we're all likely to be a bit more pedantic about readme and
 sample
 problems. How about aiming for a 1.0 branch and RC1 around the 14th of
 September? That gives 3 weeks from now for getting things ready and
 then two
 weeks which should enough for 2 or 3 RCs and voting and still get a
 1.0 in
 September.
 
 
 
 +1
 
 
 I've created a 1.0 JIRA version and started moving into there JIRAs
 i'd like
 to try to get done for 1.0 :
 
 
 
 http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=truemode=hidesorter/order=DESCsorter/field=priorityresolution=-1pid=12310210fixfor=12312698
 
 
 
 Nice! I think we should all spend a little bit of time now to take look
 at the JIRAs that we ran into recently. I suggest the following:
 - target them for SCA-1.0 if you care about them
 - volunteer for them and assign to yourself if you really care about
 them :)
 - target them for SCA-next if you think they can be handled post 1.0
 
 
 I'll go over the JIRAs I know enough about in the next 2 days.
 
 
 One thing that would be good to do now while they're fresh in our
 minds is
 for people to commit fixes to trunk for all the sample and readme
 
 issues
 
 

SCA 1.0 release (was Re: Release management for next release, was: SCA 0.92 release?

2007-08-27 Thread ant elder
On 8/9/07, Venkata Krishnan [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

snip

- Post 0.95, maybe a couple of weeks after the release, we'd cut
 another branch and head with that for 1.0 release.   Being a 1.0
 release, we prob. need a branch early as that so that we can whet the
 things we are targetting for the release.


This seems like a really good idea to me. The 0.99 release has again shown
that it always takes at least a couple of RCs to discover and resolve
regressions caused by last minute changes and to polish up the samples, and
for 1.0 we're all likely to be a bit more pedantic about readme and sample
problems. How about aiming for a 1.0 branch and RC1 around the 14th of
September? That gives 3 weeks from now for getting things ready and then two
weeks which should enough for 2 or 3 RCs and voting and still get a 1.0 in
September.

I've created a 1.0 JIRA version and started moving into there JIRAs i'd like
to try to get done for 1.0 :
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=truemode=hidesorter/order=DESCsorter/field=priorityresolution=-1pid=12310210fixfor=12312698


One thing that would be good to do now while they're fresh in our minds is
for people to commit fixes to trunk for all the sample and readme issues
they reported in the 0.99 review so they don't get forgotten till 1.0review.

   ...ant


Re: SCA 1.0 release (was Re: Release management for next release, was: SCA 0.92 release?

2007-08-27 Thread Simon Laws
On 8/27/07, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 8/9/07, Venkata Krishnan [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

 snip

 - Post 0.95, maybe a couple of weeks after the release, we'd cut
  another branch and head with that for 1.0 release.   Being a 1.0
  release, we prob. need a branch early as that so that we can whet the
  things we are targetting for the release.


 This seems like a really good idea to me. The 0.99 release has again shown
 that it always takes at least a couple of RCs to discover and resolve
 regressions caused by last minute changes and to polish up the samples,
 and
 for 1.0 we're all likely to be a bit more pedantic about readme and sample
 problems. How about aiming for a 1.0 branch and RC1 around the 14th of
 September? That gives 3 weeks from now for getting things ready and then
 two
 weeks which should enough for 2 or 3 RCs and voting and still get a 1.0 in
 September.

 I've created a 1.0 JIRA version and started moving into there JIRAs i'd
 like
 to try to get done for 1.0 :

 http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=truemode=hidesorter/order=DESCsorter/field=priorityresolution=-1pid=12310210fixfor=12312698


 One thing that would be good to do now while they're fresh in our minds is
 for people to commit fixes to trunk for all the sample and readme issues
 they reported in the 0.99 review so they don't get forgotten till
 1.0review.

...ant

+1 from me. I think we are going to need the extra time to fix the many
small things we found this time round.

Simon


Re: SCA 1.0 release (was Re: Release management for next release, was: SCA 0.92 release?

2007-08-27 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino

ant elder wrote:

On 8/9/07, Venkata Krishnan [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

snip

- Post 0.95, maybe a couple of weeks after the release, we'd cut
  

another branch and head with that for 1.0 release.   Being a 1.0
release, we prob. need a branch early as that so that we can whet the
things we are targetting for the release.




This seems like a really good idea to me. The 0.99 release has again shown
that it always takes at least a couple of RCs to discover and resolve
regressions caused by last minute changes and to polish up the samples, and
for 1.0 we're all likely to be a bit more pedantic about readme and sample
problems. How about aiming for a 1.0 branch and RC1 around the 14th of
September? That gives 3 weeks from now for getting things ready and then two
weeks which should enough for 2 or 3 RCs and voting and still get a 1.0 in
September.
  


+1


I've created a 1.0 JIRA version and started moving into there JIRAs i'd like
to try to get done for 1.0 :
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=truemode=hidesorter/order=DESCsorter/field=priorityresolution=-1pid=12310210fixfor=12312698
  


Nice! I think we should all spend a little bit of time now to take look 
at the JIRAs that we ran into recently. I suggest the following:

- target them for SCA-1.0 if you care about them
- volunteer for them and assign to yourself if you really care about them :)
- target them for SCA-next if you think they can be handled post 1.0


I'll go over the JIRAs I know enough about in the next 2 days.



One thing that would be good to do now while they're fresh in our minds is
for people to commit fixes to trunk for all the sample and readme issues
they reported in the 0.99 review so they don't get forgotten till 1.0review.

   ...ant

  


+1

--
Jean-Sebastien


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