Re: [Tutor] newbie in programming

2016-03-09 Thread Ben Finney
Mark Lawrence  writes:

> I have found it very helpful to follow conversations if people don't
> top post, but that seems once again to have been completely lost on
> this list. Is it simply too difficult?

Not too difficult, nor lost. By the nature of this forum, many people
have only joined recently; so they do not automatically benefit from
past conversations here.

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Ben Finney

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Re: [Tutor] newbie in programming

2016-03-09 Thread Mark Lawrence

On 09/03/2016 14:19, Bookbag wrote:

Also I found it helpful to learn python 2.7 first. Since you will need it to 
analyze old code.


 Original Message 
From: Alan Gauld 
Sent: March 9, 2016 3:33:10 AM EST
To: tutor@python.org
Subject: Re: [Tutor] newbie in programming

On 09/03/16 06:31, alireza sadeh seighalan wrote:


i am very newbie in programming. i want to start with Python. would you
guide me ? please introduce me some good   python tutorial for a newbie .
thanks in advance


You could try my tutorial (see below) or there is a list of
non-programmers tutorials/books on this page:

https://wiki.python.org/moin/BeginnersGuide/NonProgrammers

Find the one that suits your style, follow it through and
if you get stuck post a question here.

Always include your code and any error messages you get.
Plus tell us your OS and Python version.



I have found it very helpful to follow conversations if people don't top 
post, but that seems once again to have been completely lost on this 
list.  Is it simply too difficult?


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My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask
what you can do for our language.

Mark Lawrence

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Re: [Tutor] newbie in programming

2016-03-09 Thread Bookbag
Also I found it helpful to learn python 2.7 first. Since you will need it to 
analyze old code.


 Original Message 
From: Alan Gauld 
Sent: March 9, 2016 3:33:10 AM EST
To: tutor@python.org
Subject: Re: [Tutor] newbie in programming

On 09/03/16 06:31, alireza sadeh seighalan wrote:

> i am very newbie in programming. i want to start with Python. would you
> guide me ? please introduce me some good   python tutorial for a newbie .
> thanks in advance

You could try my tutorial (see below) or there is a list of
non-programmers tutorials/books on this page:

https://wiki.python.org/moin/BeginnersGuide/NonProgrammers

Find the one that suits your style, follow it through and
if you get stuck post a question here.

Always include your code and any error messages you get.
Plus tell us your OS and Python version.

-- 
Alan G
Author of the Learn to Program web site
http://www.alan-g.me.uk/
http://www.amazon.com/author/alan_gauld
Follow my photo-blog on Flickr at:
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Re: [Tutor] newbie in programming

2016-03-09 Thread Bookbag
I used "Python programming for the absolute beginner"

http://www.amazon.com/Python-Programming-Absolute-Beginner-Edition/dp/1435455002

Easy to understand with practice exercises. It was a good starting point.


 Original Message 
From: Alan Gauld 
Sent: March 9, 2016 3:33:10 AM EST
To: tutor@python.org
Subject: Re: [Tutor] newbie in programming

On 09/03/16 06:31, alireza sadeh seighalan wrote:

> i am very newbie in programming. i want to start with Python. would you
> guide me ? please introduce me some good   python tutorial for a newbie .
> thanks in advance

You could try my tutorial (see below) or there is a list of
non-programmers tutorials/books on this page:

https://wiki.python.org/moin/BeginnersGuide/NonProgrammers

Find the one that suits your style, follow it through and
if you get stuck post a question here.

Always include your code and any error messages you get.
Plus tell us your OS and Python version.

-- 
Alan G
Author of the Learn to Program web site
http://www.alan-g.me.uk/
http://www.amazon.com/author/alan_gauld
Follow my photo-blog on Flickr at:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/alangauldphotos


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Re: [Tutor] newbie in programming

2016-03-09 Thread Lisa Hasler Waters
Alan,

Thanks for pointing us to your extensive, extremely useful website! So much
good stuff in their!

Many thanks, Lisa

On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 3:33 AM, Alan Gauld 
wrote:

> On 09/03/16 06:31, alireza sadeh seighalan wrote:
>
> > i am very newbie in programming. i want to start with Python. would you
> > guide me ? please introduce me some good   python tutorial for a newbie .
> > thanks in advance
>
> You could try my tutorial (see below) or there is a list of
> non-programmers tutorials/books on this page:
>
> https://wiki.python.org/moin/BeginnersGuide/NonProgrammers
>
> Find the one that suits your style, follow it through and
> if you get stuck post a question here.
>
> Always include your code and any error messages you get.
> Plus tell us your OS and Python version.
>
> --
> Alan G
> Author of the Learn to Program web site
> http://www.alan-g.me.uk/
> http://www.amazon.com/author/alan_gauld
> Follow my photo-blog on Flickr at:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/alangauldphotos
>
>
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Re: [Tutor] FASTA FILE SUB-SEQUENCE EXTRACTION

2016-03-09 Thread Wolfgang Maier

On 09.03.2016 04:41, syed zaidi wrote:

Well,  I know about it but I want to perform the task using python 2.7 since 
the tool I'm trying to develop is in 2.7. For some reason I want to do it 
without biopython please help. ..



Fair enough. Parsing the fasta and the other (was it gff?) input is not 
that difficult with just built in functionality and you've described the 
other necessary steps already.
However, as pointed out by Alan, this mailing list is not there for 
writing scripts for you, but to help you with particular coding and 
understanding problems. So show us what you've tried so far and what you 
couldn't get working, then we cann certainly tackle these problems.


Best,
Wolfgang

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Re: [Tutor] FASTA FILE SUB-SEQUENCE EXTRACTION

2016-03-09 Thread Alan Gauld
On 09/03/16 03:41, syed zaidi wrote:
> ...I want to perform the task using python 2.7 since the tool 
> I'm trying to develop is in 2.7.

OK. That makes sense.

> For some reason I want to do it without biopython please help. ..

OK, but that makes it much, much harder.

There is a Python tutorial for bioinfomatics workers here:

http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/python/2002/10/17/biopython.html

It may help you.

-- 
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http://www.alan-g.me.uk/
http://www.amazon.com/author/alan_gauld
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Re: [Tutor] newbie in programming

2016-03-09 Thread Alan Gauld
On 09/03/16 06:31, alireza sadeh seighalan wrote:

> i am very newbie in programming. i want to start with Python. would you
> guide me ? please introduce me some good   python tutorial for a newbie .
> thanks in advance

You could try my tutorial (see below) or there is a list of
non-programmers tutorials/books on this page:

https://wiki.python.org/moin/BeginnersGuide/NonProgrammers

Find the one that suits your style, follow it through and
if you get stuck post a question here.

Always include your code and any error messages you get.
Plus tell us your OS and Python version.

-- 
Alan G
Author of the Learn to Program web site
http://www.alan-g.me.uk/
http://www.amazon.com/author/alan_gauld
Follow my photo-blog on Flickr at:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/alangauldphotos


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Re: [Tutor] FASTA FILE SUB-SEQUENCE EXTRACTION

2016-03-09 Thread syed zaidi
Well,  I know about it but I want to perform the task using python 2.7 since 
the tool I'm trying to develop is in 2.7. For some reason I want to do it 
without biopython please help. ..


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 Original message 
From: Danny Yoo  Date: 
3/9/2016  08:39  (GMT+08:00) To: syed zaidi 
 Cc: Python Tutor Mailing List 
 Subject: Re: [Tutor] FASTA FILE SUB-SEQUENCE 
EXTRACTION 

You should probably look into Biopython:

   http://biopython.org/wiki/Main_Page

Your question should involve fairly straightforward use of the Seq methods
of Biopython. You should not try to write your own FASTA parser: Biopython
comes with a good one already.

Note that the tutor mailing list is not entirely general: the questions
here are expected to be beginner-level.  Bioinformatics questions are a bit
out of scope for tutor @python.org, since they involve a specialized domain
that our participants here won't probably be very familiar with.

The last times I participated, the Biopython forums were very active.  You
should check them out:

http://biopython.org/wiki/Mailing_lists

Good luck!
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[Tutor] newbie in programming

2016-03-09 Thread alireza sadeh seighalan
hi everyone

i am very newbie in programming. i want to start with Python. would you
guide me ? please introduce me some good   python tutorial for a newbie .
thanks in advance
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