[TV orNotTV] Re: What Meloni IS doing rather than SVU
Really, Bob? Luthor? Really? Not Lois Lane's legs? ;-) Speaking of Ol' Baldy, nice Dick Sprang-like rendition of him in various episodes of Batman: The Brave The Bold - making me very nostalgic for my old copies of World's Finest Comics, wherever they might be packed away. On Jun 28, 6:27 pm, Bob in Jersey bob.in.jer...@juno.com wrote: Michael, to moi: Lois Lane's legs? Luthor. -- BOB -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
[TV orNotTV] Re: Jeff Probst Enters New Oprah Derby
Perhaps a reasonable precursor to that question is whether to continue with Jeopardy! and/or Wheel once their hosts retire. I suppose that depends on whether syndicated 2.5 Men continues to outperform them in the ratings. When Trebek started doing Jeopardy!, there wasn't immediate universal acceptance. I can't find the quote online, but I remember seeing Bob Costas quoted as saying something like Anyone who prefers Alex Trebek to Art Fleming probably prefers watching baseball at the Metrodome to Fenway Park. The formats are robust enough (and the shows profitable enough) to chance new hosts. -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
[TV orNotTV] Re: Ce Soir Avec Arthur et Craig Ferguson
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xjhd2w_ce-soir-ave-arthur-saison-2-craig-ferguson-et-arthur_fun Promo for Craig Ferguson's appearance on the French Late Late Show. Le Cheval et Le Panda are there along with Eddie Izzard and French soccer star Zidane On Monday's episode of G.P. and the Fergs, Craig said that this is a theatrical trailer. When it aired on CBS, it included a bleep and a blur. -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
[TV orNotTV] Re: The Death of Lt Columbo
I could believe David Wayne as Jim Hutton's father. I could not have believed Morgan as Lawford's father. (Though it would have been nice to see Morgan as his, what?, 11th series lead?) If they didn't want to do two-hour Ellerys, I'd have happily settled for an hour of him and an hour of The Casebook of Simon Brimmer. --Dave Sikula On Jun 28, 5:33 am, Diner bwayst...@gmail.com wrote: The failed 1971 pilot movie, Ellery Queen: Don't Look Behind You, starring Peter Lawford and Harry Morgan, was intended as a pilot for the original lineup of the Mystery Movie. According to a poster on the IMDB, NBC almost picked Ellery Queen over McMillan and Wife for the third spoke of the wheel. -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
[TV orNotTV] Re: The Death of Lt Columbo
On Wednesday, June 29, 2011 4:34:47 AM UTC-4, Dave Sikula wrote: I could believe David Wayne as Jim Hutton's father. I could not have believed Morgan as Lawford's father. (Though it would have been nice to see Morgan as his, what?, 11th series lead?) Lawford was only eight years younger than Morgan - and Lawford's gray hair and English accent didn't help make the relationship more convincing. So Inspector Queen was turned into Ellery's uncle - the half-brother of Ellery's father. No, I didn't buy it either. -Tim -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
[TV orNotTV] Re: Jeff Probst Enters New Oprah Derby
On Wednesday, June 29, 2011 3:32:04 AM UTC-4, JW wrote: When Trebek started doing Jeopardy!, there wasn't immediate universal acceptance. I can't find the quote online, but I remember seeing Bob Costas quoted as saying something like Anyone who prefers Alex Trebek to Art Fleming probably prefers watching baseball at the Metrodome to Fenway Park. The formats are robust enough (and the shows profitable enough) to chance new hosts. I was in college when the Trebek Jeopardy! began, and while I was a fan of the new host right away, my friends couldn't accept the High Rollers guy in Art Fleming's old job. They used to mockingly yell Doubles! Roll doubles! whenever they saw Trebek. Yet today, when I see Fleming clips on YouTube, Fleming seems awfully stiff with his canned, rote lines (The answer is...). He was a jovial sort, though, and it's nice to see him rooting for contestants whose scores slipped below zero (C'mon, get yourself out of that hole). BTW, let's have a moment of silence for Elaine Stewart, the dice roller on the nighttime High Rollers, who died on Monday. -Tim -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Ce Soir Avec Arthur et Craig Ferguson
Last night, SCG had Paris Hilton Neil Gaiman. The chat with Neil was great but the Hilton segment was awesome. It was fairly plain to see SCG wasn't interested and he got (at least) 2 good zingers in which the ditz never got. If you don't care for the cold open or the tweetybox, SCG has a youtube channel with the shows split up by segement. http://www.youtube.com/user/TVsCraigFerguson -- QWIZX.com - A little bit of everything -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
[TV orNotTV] Re: The Death of Lt Columbo
On Jun 28, 5:33 am, Diner bwayst...@gmail.com wrote: The original two-hour pilot for Ellery Queen aired as a special episode of the Sunday Mystery Movie in the spring of 1975. On the Ellery Queen DVD set, the version of the pilot used is a syndication copy, retitled Too Many Suspects, in which the series' regular theme song (by Elmer Bernstein) is replaced by the soundtrack of the standard Mystery Movie opening credits: the Mystery Movie theme (by Henry Mancini), complete with Hank Sims announcing tonight, a special Mystery Movie presentation... I have the DVD set and I've seen that pilot episode. It seemed (to me) to move much too slowly compared to the hour-long episodes that followed it. Which is pretty much my point in saying that perhaps the two-hour format would have been detrimental to the series, and NBC may have realized that and ordered it as a standalone hour rather than a MM spoke. I can't picture Lawford and Morgan doing the Hutton and Wayne parts, either. -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
[TV orNotTV] Re: Chris Wallace Finally Apologizes for Inappropriate Fox Sunday Interview
On Jun 28, 1:18 pm, PGage pga...@gmail.com wrote: A story on the Huff Po (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/28/michele-bachmann-john-quincy...) reports that MB did accept Wallace's apology last night in an appearance on Fox News (she had not accepted it while on ABC News, but apparently Fox sent out a memo for every I don't need Poltifact to tell me that JQA was 8 years old when the Declaration of Inone to play nice). The story also reports that this morning, on Good Morning America, MB repeated a ridiculous claim I think I have heard her make before, which is that John Quincy Adams was one of the Founding Fathers, which justifies who even more bat-shit crazy claim that the Founding Fathers worked tirelessly to end slavery. Apparently young George actually called her on it, but she refused to back down, saying that John Quincy Adams most certainly was a part of the Revolutionary War era. He was a young boy but he was actively involved. Even more substantially wrong than this however is her often repeated claim that the Founding Fathers worked tirelessly to end slavrey, and that this shows :under our constitution, we have the ability when we recognize that something is wrong to change it. And that’s what we did in our country. We changed it. We no longer have slavery. That’s a good thing. And what our Constitution has done for our nation is to give us the basis of freedom unparalleled in the rest of the world. Of course that is not what happened. But acknowledging that would go against everything the Tea Partiers/ Fox News Republicans believe. Beyond the challenge to American exceptionalism you mentioned to talk about this issue truthfully you would have to be comfortable with nuance, since there was a whole spectrum of beliefs among the Founders and differences between public and private behavior. You would also have to admit that many of them changed their minds after reflection and observation, which is anathema to modern conservatism. You would have to discuss how the Founding Fathers violently disagreed among themselves on this issue, and from there you are close to admitting that the Constitution is not a unanimous and explicit set of instructions from a group of great men, but a product of debate and compromise from people who disagreed about the same issues we disagree on today (executive power, centralized vs. state power, etc.) And finally and perhaps most painfully you would have to admit that the Founding Fathers compromised on a issue of core values for the good of the country and put patriotism ahead of ideological consistency. And all of that is about as likely to happen as Keith Olbermann replacing Roger Ailes. -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Ce Soir Avec Arthur et Craig Ferguson
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 4:04 AM, JW redbu...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xjhd2w_ce-soir-ave-arthur-saison-2-craig-ferguson-et-arthur_fun Promo for Craig Ferguson's appearance on the French Late Late Show. Le Cheval et Le Panda are there along with Eddie Izzard and French soccer star Zidane On Monday's episode of G.P. and the Fergs, Craig said that this is a theatrical trailer. When it aired on CBS, it included a bleep and a blur. Here's the video from the LLS of Craig talking about the trailer and the trailer: http://www.cbs.com/late_night/late_late_show/video/?pid=KsuviUM_1tdCGwUwqdByOj6tQxftgpY1 -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
[TV orNotTV] Shows you what we know... (Re: And Speaking of 2000...)
Tom Wolper, to Mark J, in part: Rogan did Marc Maron's podcast a few months ago and had no enthusiasm forFearFactor. He didn't completely dis the show and he appreciated the paycheck, but he said that the experience of hosting depended a lot on the quality of contestants. He also said that he started smoking pot regularly in the second or third season and he was often high on air. And Rogan seems calmer and more laid back than he was in the days of Newsradio andFearFactor. His current attitude would not fir the show. Since NBC can go young and cheap for a host I can't imagine they'd pay the premium to bring Rogan back. It's not like the show revolved around him. They must have improved it in a way that appealed to him, and meanwhile, We wouldn't want to do this show without Joe, and We're getting applicants who were in junior high when they watched the original show and now are of age, sez Matt Kunitz: http://www.tvguide.com/News/Joe-Rogan-Fear-Factor-1034757.aspx -- BOB -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Chris Wallace Finally Apologizes for Inappropriate Fox Sunday Interview
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 11:42 AM, wk0...@gmail.com wk0...@gmail.com wrote: On Jun 28, 1:18 pm, PGage pga...@gmail.com wrote: A story on the Huff Po ( http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/28/michele-bachmann-john-quincy...) reports that MB did accept Wallace's apology last night in an appearance on Fox News (she had not accepted it while on ABC News, but apparently Fox sent out a memo for every I don't need Poltifact to tell me that JQA was 8 years old when the Declaration of Inone to play nice). The story also reports that this morning, on Good Morning America, MB repeated a ridiculous claim I think I have heard her make before, which is that John Quincy Adams was one of the Founding Fathers, which justifies who even more bat-shit crazy claim that the Founding Fathers worked tirelessly to end slavery. Apparently young George actually called her on it, but she refused to back down, saying that John Quincy Adams most certainly was a part of the Revolutionary War era. He was a young boy but he was actively involved. Even more substantially wrong than this however is her often repeated claim that the Founding Fathers worked tirelessly to end slavrey, and that this shows :under our constitution, we have the ability when we recognize that something is wrong to change it. And that’s what we did in our country. We changed it. We no longer have slavery. That’s a good thing. And what our Constitution has done for our nation is to give us the basis of freedom unparalleled in the rest of the world. Of course that is not what happened. But acknowledging that would go against everything the Tea Partiers/ Fox News Republicans believe. Beyond the challenge to American exceptionalism you mentioned to talk about this issue truthfully you would have to be comfortable with nuance, since there was a whole spectrum of beliefs among the Founders and differences between public and private behavior. You would also have to admit that many of them changed their minds after reflection and observation, which is anathema to modern conservatism. You would have to discuss how the Founding Fathers violently disagreed among themselves on this issue, and from there you are close to admitting that the Constitution is not a unanimous and explicit set of instructions from a group of great men, but a product of debate and compromise from people who disagreed about the same issues we disagree on today (executive power, centralized vs. state power, etc.) And finally and perhaps most painfully you would have to admit that the Founding Fathers compromised on a issue of core values for the good of the country and put patriotism ahead of ideological consistency. And all of that is about as likely to happen as Keith Olbermann replacing Roger Ailes. The more interesting question here is not what pieces of history Michele Bachmann will get wrong, but why she gets them wrong. The problem is not too many reporters will get into that. They'll likely act like Cenk Ugyur did two days ago. He had on his MSNBC show Michelle Cottle (I believe) who actually wrote a good piece examining the genesis of Bachmann's Christianist understanding of history, but Ugyur spent the entire segment going Ha ha ha, Bachmann sure is dum! even while Cottle tried to explain that she (and a lot of people in the Midwest, and South) believe this is true and that she will win if the media gang up on her going Ha ha ha, Bachmann sure is a dum flake! There is a sort of Christian fanfiction version of American history that is being taught by the likes of David Barton and John Eidsmoe where the Founding Fathers are elevated to the level of prophets and that the United States really was founded as a Christian theocratic nation. Thus they wipe away the grime such as slavery, and argue that the important legally binding foundation document is the Declaration of Independence. (Note how so many confuse *that* for the US Constitution. They argue that the DoC outranks the USC or somesuch.. Argue that God is not referred to in the Constitution? Well, Creator is mention in the DoC, so that counts!) Still, the issue isn't that Bachmann believes this, but that lots of other Americans -- the born again evangelical Christians -- do. Ah, found it. Bachmann's Unrivaled Extremism. http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/06/14/michele-bachmanns-unrivaled-extremism-gay-rights-to-religion.html -- Wesley McGee http://www.ambivi.com http://drawing-a-blank.tumblr.com -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
Re: [TV orNotTV] Men's Charlie to be killed off?
On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 9:34 PM, Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.com wrote: That rumor has been spreading for weeks, but was discounted by reputable sources. Hard to find the funny after the death of a lead character. Reference 8 Simple Rules for more information. They'd have better luck getting laughs if they reran According to Jim. Didn't they kill off Valerie Harper in what became The Hogan Family? The show went on a few more seasons thereafter. Though then again Charlie's dispute and dismissal makes Valerie's dispute look like a love-in. -- Wesley McGee http://www.ambivi.com http://drawing-a-blank.tumblr.com -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
Re: [TV orNotTV] Men's Charlie to be killed off?
Let's remember the difference between death of an ACTOR and death of a CHARACTER. in the case of shows like 8 Simple Rules... and NewsRadio, the death of the actor necessitated the death of the character, and (at least for NR) the show never really recovered its rhythm. As much as I don't like TaaHM, I believe the fact that IRL Charlie is still alive and obnoxious makes it much easier to kill off Show Charlie and move on. -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
RE: [TV orNotTV] Men's Charlie to be killed off?
Bear in mind they did this on MASH to kill off McLean/Col. Blake and it worked just fine. One of the few times they did so to keep him from returning. From: tvornottv@googlegroups.com [mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M-D November Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:26 PM To: tvornottv@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [TV orNotTV] Men's Charlie to be killed off? Let's remember the difference between death of an ACTOR and death of a CHARACTER. in the case of shows like 8 Simple Rules... and NewsRadio, the death of the actor necessitated the death of the character, and (at least for NR) the show never really recovered its rhythm. As much as I don't like TaaHM, I believe the fact that IRL Charlie is still alive and obnoxious makes it much easier to kill off Show Charlie and move on. -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
[TV orNotTV] To Catch an Adulterer?
The National Enquirer reportedly caught Dateline NBC's Chris Hansen with NBC Miami's Kristyn Caddell. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2009511/To-Catch-Predators-Chris-Hansen-caught-cheating-wife.html -- Wesley McGee http://www.ambivi.com http://drawing-a-blank.tumblr.com -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
