Re: [TV orNotTV] 'Game of Thrones' Coming Back for Season 4
I wouldn't be surprised if Game of Thrones had already been renewed prior to this - albeit unofficially. It's a nice bit of PR to give a show a renewal right out of the gates like that, but I imagine for a production of that scale, their office is a year round operation. I read yesterday (http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/03/31/hbo-thrones-piracy/) that it's also HBO's most profitable current series. With international series, record breaking DVD/BluRay sales, and a significant amount of spin-off merchandise, I'd imagine that HBO isn't letting this get away any time soon. Adam On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 4:12 AM, PGage pga...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 8:01 PM, Tom Wolper twol...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 10:53 PM, Mark Jeffries spotligh...@gmail.comwrote: HBO did another one of their quick renews and gave the cult fantasy drama a second season after only their season premiere Sunday night--I thought in television you only cancelled after one episode: http://www.thewrap.com/tv/article/game-thrones-renewed-season-4-83586 I know we went over this before in this group - a series like Game of Thrones requires a lot of lead time for special effects and in this case they have a huge ensemble of actors and want to get them committed to another season ASAP. Because the series is based on a series of novels the producers can't do like they do on Downton Abbey and kill off characters when the actors become unavailable. Besides, with the built in sequels and fanbase for GOT, the announcement of a new season is just a marketing ploy. They could announce the next seasons right now just as easily. BTW - do the recent gmail changes mean that top-posting is now officially the only way to go? -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Justified showrunner Graham Yost in Onion AV Club
On Apr 2, 2013, at 7:43 PM, PGage pga...@gmail.com wrote: On For me the most of no longer comes close to applying. If Speed and Full House are on one side of the ledger, that is more than balanced by wonderful television shows like Boomtown, Band of Brothers, The Pacific, Justified and The Americans (and I even liked Herman's Head). I don't think many people in the history of the medium can point to a body of work with as many different high quality projects as Yost. In the immortal words of Comic Book Guy, The world needs the wisdom of Herman's Head, now more than ever. Joe (also a fan of HH.) -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] 'Walking Dead' Finale Beats Network Scripted Shows (Again)
PGage, to Mark J: Could Walking Dead appear unchanged on broadcast networks? It does not have any nudity, but I guess the violence is pretty graphic (though most of the victims are zombies). It seems like this pill would be particularly bitter to swallow if it were true that there is no real reason why either WD or The Bible, could not have been on NBC or ABC this season. The PTC called... they said, You're kidding, right? -- BOB -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] AGT can also use Fallon tax credit to move to Radidio City
If only to keep Howski from having to pay tolls back from NJ. NY DNhttp://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/talent-land-radio-city-article-1.1306222?localLinksEnabled=false -- BOB -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] Re: Bill Carter says Tonight will move back to NY, with Fallon
Carter at the NYThttp://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/03/business/media/jimmy-fallon-said-to-have-extended-nbc-contract.html?ref=media_r=0says a contract extend for Fallon has been finalized... and a source confirms same to THRhttp://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/source-jimmy-fallon-closes-nbc-432587 . -- BOB -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] NotTV: Ebert to take a leave of presence due to cancer recurrance
Though he's not leaving. He's just slowing down. Which is not what the word leave means in any dictionary I've seen. Also, he's moving rogerebert.com off the Sun Times servers and into the control of Ebert Digital, which Chaz will run. http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/2013/04/a_leave_of_presense.html I can't help but think he's looking at the end game. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] Semi OT: Disney shuts down LucasArts
This is the part of corporate acquisitions I don't understand. Billions were given in exchange for Lucas properties and the creative talent contained therein. But now that Disney has them, they are being shown the door. http://kotaku.com/disney-shuts-down-lucasarts-468473749? -- Kevin M. (RPCV) -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Bill Carter says Tonight will move back to NY, with Fallon
I have to say, at this point, it is the network who cried wolf. I've ceased having any interest in Leno and Fallon. What does tick me off, however is the move to New York, though not for any reasons provided. When Conan was given the Tonight Show, his Late Show crew either stayed to work with Fallon or traveled to LA to work with him. No layoffs. When Leno retook the Tonight Show, Conan took his crew to TBS (after taking them on the road). Again, no layoffs. Now, when Leno leaves and Fallon gets the show, the entire Tonight Show crew in Los Angeles (many of whom have been there for decades), is going to get laid off. The GOP tosses around the acronym RINO. Well, NBC needs to start using TSINO because the only thing getting retained of a legacy program will be its name. So while people are commenting that this time NBC might be able to make a transition successfully, I just wince because it isn't a transition at all; it is a gut shot to apx. 150 people and their families, several of whom I know and have worked with. The focus in the media will always be on the hosts. Both Jay and Jimmy earn millions of dollars a year, but the people getting shafted are the blue collar, behind-the-scenes staff, so from my perspective, this is actually the worst Tonight Show related move NBC has made since they censored Jack Parr's WC sketch and forced him to walk off the show. -- Kevin M. (RPCV) -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Bill Carter says Tonight will move back to NY, with Fallon
While I agree that lots of people are affected by decisions like this and not just the multimillionaire hosts, I think you are assuming several things that, at least as far as I have read, have not been said. In particular, while it seems reasonable to guess that Fallon will keep much of his current staff around rather than bring Leno's staff to NYC, has anyone actually said this? More importantly, I think there is a good chance that Late Night with __ will move to California, to avoid booking conflicts if nothing else. Doesn't it seem likely that this show would use some or all of the current Leno crew? I'm not sure I understand how a change like this could avoid affecting Leno's entire crew, assuming Leno is actually not going to continue with a show. How do you think they could avoid this situation? d On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.com wrote: I have to say, at this point, it is the network who cried wolf. I've ceased having any interest in Leno and Fallon. What does tick me off, however is the move to New York, though not for any reasons provided. When Conan was given the Tonight Show, his Late Show crew either stayed to work with Fallon or traveled to LA to work with him. No layoffs. When Leno retook the Tonight Show, Conan took his crew to TBS (after taking them on the road). Again, no layoffs. Now, when Leno leaves and Fallon gets the show, the entire Tonight Show crew in Los Angeles (many of whom have been there for decades), is going to get laid off. The GOP tosses around the acronym RINO. Well, NBC needs to start using TSINO because the only thing getting retained of a legacy program will be its name. So while people are commenting that this time NBC might be able to make a transition successfully, I just wince because it isn't a transition at all; it is a gut shot to apx. 150 people and their families, several of whom I know and have worked with. The focus in the media will always be on the hosts. Both Jay and Jimmy earn millions of dollars a year, but the people getting shafted are the blue collar, behind-the-scenes staff, so from my perspective, this is actually the worst Tonight Show related move NBC has made since they censored Jack Parr's WC sketch and forced him to walk off the show. -- Kevin M. (RPCV) -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Semi OT: Disney shuts down LucasArts
LucasArts hasn't really been creating much of anything lately. They've long moved away from creating their own IP and instead coming up with numerous Star Wars games that they have farmed out to a second party in most cases like Bioware who did Knights of the Old Republic and The Old Republic MMO. Companies like Double Fine and Telltale are more old school LucasArts today than LucasArts is now. In short, no big loss. On 4/3/13, Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.com wrote: This is the part of corporate acquisitions I don't understand. Billions were given in exchange for Lucas properties and the creative talent contained therein. But now that Disney has them, they are being shown the door. http://kotaku.com/disney-shuts-down-lucasarts-468473749? -- Kevin M. (RPCV) -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- +++ Joe Coughlin http://www.twitter.com/inturnaround -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Bill Carter says Tonight will move back to NY, with Fallon
They will have just under a year to get their ducks in a row then. That's pretty good lead time anywhere else. Few of them are contract players, so if they find something, they can jump. I know production in LA is slowing down, so I feel for those who will have a problem finding a job in Burbank. But I really don't think this is a bad move business-wise on Comcast's part. They're moving away from Burbank, closer to Comcast's HQ of Philadelphia on a show that will now have a huge tax break thanks to New York state. It's not Steve Allen or Johnny's Tonight anymore...but is it Dave Garroway's Today? Hell, is it even Bryant Gumbel's? On 4/3/13, Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.com wrote: I have to say, at this point, it is the network who cried wolf. I've ceased having any interest in Leno and Fallon. What does tick me off, however is the move to New York, though not for any reasons provided. When Conan was given the Tonight Show, his Late Show crew either stayed to work with Fallon or traveled to LA to work with him. No layoffs. When Leno retook the Tonight Show, Conan took his crew to TBS (after taking them on the road). Again, no layoffs. Now, when Leno leaves and Fallon gets the show, the entire Tonight Show crew in Los Angeles (many of whom have been there for decades), is going to get laid off. The GOP tosses around the acronym RINO. Well, NBC needs to start using TSINO because the only thing getting retained of a legacy program will be its name. So while people are commenting that this time NBC might be able to make a transition successfully, I just wince because it isn't a transition at all; it is a gut shot to apx. 150 people and their families, several of whom I know and have worked with. The focus in the media will always be on the hosts. Both Jay and Jimmy earn millions of dollars a year, but the people getting shafted are the blue collar, behind-the-scenes staff, so from my perspective, this is actually the worst Tonight Show related move NBC has made since they censored Jack Parr's WC sketch and forced him to walk off the show. -- Kevin M. (RPCV) -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- +++ Joe Coughlin http://www.twitter.com/inturnaround -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Semi OT: Disney shuts down LucasArts
Kevin, remember that LucasArts was just the videogame side, not the movie or TV production side. As Joe mentioned, it hadn't been doing much that was well received on its own for years. On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Joe Coughlin inturnaro...@gmail.com wrote: LucasArts hasn't really been creating much of anything lately. They've long moved away from creating their own IP and instead coming up with numerous Star Wars games that they have farmed out to a second party in most cases like Bioware who did Knights of the Old Republic and The Old Republic MMO. Companies like Double Fine and Telltale are more old school LucasArts today than LucasArts is now. In short, no big loss. On 4/3/13, Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.com wrote: This is the part of corporate acquisitions I don't understand. Billions were given in exchange for Lucas properties and the creative talent contained therein. But now that Disney has them, they are being shown the door. http://kotaku.com/disney-shuts-down-lucasarts-468473749? -- Kevin M. (RPCV) -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- +++ Joe Coughlin http://www.twitter.com/inturnaround -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] Norm MacDonald has a talk show
OK, he has a podcast, with a YouTube component. The first episode had Super Dave as his guest, and Super Dave did what he does on every show he has ever been on which is mock the hell out of it. I can watch Bob Einstein read the phone book and be amused, but for him to be the first guest REALLY highlighted the flaws in the show, albeit humorously. The second episode had Tom Green, which I could neither listen to nor watch because it had Tom Green. https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/norm-macdonald-live/id625455951?mt=2 http://www.youtube.com/user/NormMacdonaldLive -- Kevin M. (RPCV) -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] 'Walking Dead' Finale Beats Network Scripted Shows (Again)
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Bob in Jersey bob.in.jer...@juno.comwrote: PGage, to Mark J: Could Walking Dead appear unchanged on broadcast networks? It does not have any nudity, but I guess the violence is pretty graphic (though most of the victims are zombies). It seems like this pill would be particularly bitter to swallow if it were true that there is no real reason why either WD or The Bible, could not have been on NBC or ABC this season. The PTC called... they said, You're kidding, right? In reference to which, the gruesomeness in Walking Dead or in the Bible? -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Bill Carter says Tonight will move back to NY, with Fallon
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.com wrote: I have to say, at this point, it is the network who cried wolf. I've ceased having any interest in Leno and Fallon. What does tick me off, however is the move to New York, though not for any reasons provided. When Conan was given the Tonight Show, his Late Show crew either stayed to work with Fallon or traveled to LA to work with him. No layoffs. When Leno retook the Tonight Show, Conan took his crew to TBS (after taking them on the road). Again, no layoffs. Now, when Leno leaves and Fallon gets the show, the entire Tonight Show crew in Los Angeles (many of whom have been there for decades), is going to get laid off. (SNIP) I think I might be more irritated if I were Conan, who was forced to bring his entire staff across country, only to have them all get unceremoniously fired. If NBC had allowed Conan to do the Tonight Show from NY the transition would have been better in a number of ways. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] Late-night upheaval: A six-night-a-week issue
With Lorne Michaels planning to become TSwJF's showrunner in February, has anybody considered the possibility that he may step down from SNL to concentrate on NBC's weeknight late-night franchise instead? (If that happens, Liz Lemon is on record as saying the SNL plug should be pulled.) http://popwatch.ew.com/2013/03/15/tina-fey-lorne-michaels-saturday-night-live/ _ _ |_|_ Brad Beam- Belle WV |_|_ http://www.facebook.com/74bmw -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] NY state's new gun law threatens film/TV
TheWraphttp://www.thewrap.com/movies/article/why-new-yorks-new-gun-control-laws-are-causing-headaches-hollywood-83676: The (hastily-passed thx to Newtown) rules, which take effect Apr 15th, don't *specifically* allow for prop weapons in scripted productions, and the GOP senate leader objects to any change to them (the linked story is at a soft-paywall site) -- BOB -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] Re: Late-night upheaval: A six-night-a-week issue
Brad Beam, in part: With Lorne Michaels planning to become TSwJF's showrunner in February, has anybody considered the possibility that he may step down from SNL to concentrate on NBC's weeknight late-night franchise instead? Even if he doesn't, they could lose Nasim Pedrad... she's been signed to another Lorne project, a sitcom created by John Mulaney... EWhttp://insidetv.ew.com/2013/04/03/snl-comedienne-joins-lorne-michaels-pilot/has, f'rinstance, her WU spot as Arianna Huffington... -- BOB -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Bill Carter says Tonight will move back to NY, with Fallon
I appreciate your concern for Burbank and the Tonight Show staffers, and I think at this point in US history all of us know at some level the devastating impacts of losing a job. Without minimizing that, the move to NYC will also be a welcome boon to roughly the same number of people, in the same industry, there. I don't think the impact on Burbank or the specific staff can be a determining factor for NBC about its strategy. I am less skeptical than you about the Late Night move to SoCal - I think it is all but a certainty. Lorne will just exchange producing duties of LN with the Tonight Show. But I think there are real questions about the wisdom of the underlying strategy here. I don't think we can say NBC is clearly being stupid by moving Leno out early in favor of Fallon, but your suggestion that they are confusing long term strategy with impulsive desperation is certainly plausible. I was obviously a big critic of NBC's treatment of Conan, but behind that I have always thought their original mistake was the initial decision to move Leno out of the Tonight Show before his time. It does seem odd that one of the few time periods NBC still rules (are they still ahead in the evening news?) is the one they seem so determined to screw around with; one might think they would let the 11:35 pm slot take care of itself for a while and devote their long term programing genius to prime time (or morning). Fallon, unlike Conan, is not threatening to go anywhere, and it is unlikely that the Winter Olympics is going to make a big enough difference in the ratings launch for Fallon that it is worth giving Leno the bum's rush. Let the dude play out his contract and retire with some dignity at the end of the summer. Is that really so hard? Paradoxically (because NBC is doing all of this putatively to counter=program against him) I think the real winner here is Kimmell. He will now have LA to himself at 11:35. He has the perfect persona for that town - snarky enough not to be seen as a sycophant, but savvy enough to indirectly kiss the right asses - and now hip enough to be a place where celebs who want to present themselves to the under-40s want to be seen. Fallon meanwhile will be fighting it out directly with not only Dave, but Stewart and Colbert too, not to mention the sloppy seconds from the morning shows, and even a little bit from SNL ( though I guess we will be getting a lot of cross promotion there). I am about a bizillion times more likely to watch the Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon than I was Jay Leno (because I just constitutionally can not stomach more than 10 seconds of Leno on that show), but that does not mean I think this is a good move, either ethically or strategically. On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 7:17 PM, Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.com wrote: Deep breath... and... The local CBS OO here in LA did a decent piece about how Jay's firing (if we're going to call what happened to Conan a firing, we must also call what is happening to Jay a firing) will impact Burbank. NBC sold the Burbank studios a few years ago and moved most everything except the Tonight Show to Universal Studios. That dealt a harsh blow to Burbank. Even if Late Night moves to Southern California, which I'd be skeptical of since it sounds like Lorne Michaels will now be EP of every NBC late night program, they won't go to Burbank -- they'd operate from the Universal lot. Unions in this area are funky, which is a nice way of saying they do not play well with each other and have the oddest factions and rivalries. Consequently, union guys who worked on an all-TV lot like NBC Burbank are unlikely to be able to easily transition to a film TV lot like Universal. Many behind-the-scenes guys at NBC are in their 50s... or older (that studio had a much higher retention rate of personnel than the average), who are less likely to get hired in an industry that values low salary requirements more than experience. The net result being roughly 170 Tonight Show staffers (that's the number from KCBS) will be out of work. The mayor of Burbank was interviewed, and he seemed absolutely crushed. He pointed out the ripple effect on the city losing such a show (after all, he experienced it do a lesser degree when Conan moved it, and The Jay Leno Show lacked the same draw). Local businesses are gonna close. Real estate prices are going to drop. The former NBC studios will likely be knocked down in a few years. Someone asked in this thread what alternatives NBC had. Well, earlier threads have hashed and rehashed what NBC has done right and wrong with late night programing over the last several years, and I think the solution exists in long-term thinking. The Fallon move seems like a long-term strategy on its face, but I believe otherwise. To me the move smacks of corporate lackeys having a knee-jerk reaction to senior executives who parrot the phrase make it skew younger over and over again. It is the only reason why NBC would
[TV orNotTV] Re: Late-night upheaval: A six-night-a-week issue
Also consider that Seth Meyers is largely considered the heir apparent to the 12:35 Late Night slot, although it remains to be seen how a probable move to LA would factor into Meyers taking the job. Also, what's the status of Jason Sudeikis? Conventional wisdom was that he'd be done with SNL after the general election, but he's still hanging around (although he's not being used the way he once was - I spotted him in all of one sketch during the recent Timberlake episode). On Wednesday, April 3, 2013 10:15:37 PM UTC-4, Bob in Jersey wrote: Brad Beam, in part: With Lorne Michaels planning to become TSwJF's showrunner in February, has anybody considered the possibility that he may step down from SNL to concentrate on NBC's weeknight late-night franchise instead? Even if he doesn't, they could lose Nasim Pedrad... she's been signed to another Lorne project, a sitcom created by John Mulaney... EWhttp://insidetv.ew.com/2013/04/03/snl-comedienne-joins-lorne-michaels-pilot/has, f'rinstance, her WU spot as Arianna Huffington... -- BOB -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Jimmy and Jay Sing It Out (But...)
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 8:48 PM, Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 7:37 PM, Mark Jeffries spotligh...@gmail.com wrote: In what technically began Late Night last night, a cross-country phone call from Big Jaw to Fallon which becomes a number from West Side Story: http://www.thewrap.com/tv/column-post/leno-and-fallons-tonight-duet-what-got-cut-video-83541 The Wrap points out that a line in the beginning of the sketch where Leno is asked about moving to Fox was cut out of the sketch (it was in a preview video NBC sent out earlier yesterday)--the net says it was cut for time (and the parody lyric also referenced moving to Fox). That was a very well produced piece of spin control. Not funny in the slightest, but very well produced. Despite the laughter from someone's audience or laugh-track (I am guessing Fallon's - the whole thing had more of his fingerprint than Leno's) it oddly did not seem to even be intended to be funny. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
