Re: [TV orNotTV] Report: Alec Baldwin is getting a 10 PM Friday Talk Show on MSNBC

[Kevin M.]

Friday's are notoriously NOT for new/original news or talk programing
in the world of cable TV. Shows go to Friday nights to die.

In other words, perfect for a Baldwin.

On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 9:44 PM, Tom Wolper  wrote:
> So far there has been no confirmation from MSNBC. It would replace weekend
> Lockup programming.
>
> http://www.mediaite.com/tv/alec-baldwin-set-to-host-new-msnbc-primetime-show/
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Report: Alec Baldwin is getting a 10 PM Friday Talk Show on MSNBC

[John Edwards]

On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:44 PM, Tom Wolper  wrote:
> So far there has been no confirmation from MSNBC. It would replace weekend
> Lockup programming.
>
> http://www.mediaite.com/tv/alec-baldwin-set-to-host-new-msnbc-primetime-show/

What, and lose Rachel Maddow throwing to the women-in-prison
documentary of the week? Perish the thought.

John

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Report: Alec Baldwin is getting a 10 PM Friday Talk Show on MSNBC

[David Bruggeman]

Does Chuck Todd have an objection to this development?


David




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So far there has been no confirmation from MSNBC. It would replace weekend 
Lockup programming.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/alec-baldwin-set-to-host-new-msnbc-primetime-show/

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[TV orNotTV] Report: Alec Baldwin is getting a 10 PM Friday Talk Show on MSNBC

[Tom Wolper]

So far there has been no confirmation from MSNBC. It would replace weekend
Lockup programming.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/alec-baldwin-set-to-host-new-msnbc-primetime-show/

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Is this anybody we know?

[David Bruggeman]

I kind of figured it was digital trickery similar to whatever was used in this 
ad...

http://www.ispot.tv/ad/7OQx/directv-nfl-sunday-ticket-antiquing

basically shrinking or enlarging one set of actors to give the appearance of 
greater size.

David





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David Bruggeman wrote:
I don't know who this is, but I was under the impression (based on other ads in 
this campaign) that the 'super-fan' is digitally enhanced to appear 30-50 
percent larger than the non-subscribers. 

He busted through the top of a passage between rooms with his head, and broke a 
couch in half, in this particular ad. Don't think he could do so if digitally 
enhanced, but of course far greater wizardry has become commonplace in this 
biz.  -- B. 

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[TV orNotTV] Re: Twitterverse Goes Crazy Over 'Sharknado'

[Bob in Jersey]

Say hello to "Sharknado 2: The Second One."

http://www.thewrap.com/tv/article/sharknado-sequel-gets-name-109506

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[TV orNotTV] FNC lineup in major flux?

[Bob in Jersey]

Roger Ailes was chatting earlier today (8) with Cavuto on stage at an 
investors event, only to hear about a report by Drudge that Megyn Kelly, 
when she comes back, would be plugged into what's now Hannity's slot... "I 
don't confirm or deny any rumors... All of our stars will be back," Ailes 
(coolly?) replied... he'd also admit to having talked with Shep Smith about 
"a new way to deliver news," fuelling the speculation...

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/roger-ailes-on-megyn-kelly-report-all-of-our-stars-will-be-back_b191386

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Is this anybody we know?

[Bob in Jersey]

David Bruggeman wrote:
>
> I don't know who this is, but I was under the impression (based on other 
> ads in this campaign) that the 'super-fan' is digitally enhanced to appear 
> 30-50 percent larger than the non-subscribers. 
>

He busted through the top of a passage between rooms with his head, and 
broke a couch in half, in this particular ad. Don't think he could do so if 
digitally enhanced, but of course far greater wizardry has become 
commonplace in this biz.  -- B. 

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[TV orNotTV] 'Capt. Kangaroo' Puppeteer Dies at 86

[Mark Jeffries]

Anyone who grew up on the Captain knows Cosmo Allegretti's characters: 
 Bunny Rabbit, Mr. Moose, Dancing Bear, Grandfather Clock and the on-camera 
character Dennis the Painter in the show's later years:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/09/arts/television/cosmo-allegretti-captain-kangaroo-actor-and-puppeteer-dies-at-86.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&_r=2&;

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[TV orNotTV] Todd to NBC: Don't Do the Hillary Mini

[Mark Jeffries]

This morning on "Morning Joe" on MSNBC, Chuck Todd joined strange 
bedfellows the Republican National Committee and Media Matters for America 
in calling for the net to call off the planned miniseries starring Diane 
Lane as Hillary Clinton, saying that for NBC News it's a no-win situation 
and that even if the news department isn't involved, there is a halo effect 
that will be negative no matter how the show treats Clinton:

http://www.thewrap.com/media/article/now-nbc-news-own-correspondents-are-speaking-out-against-clinton-miniseries-video-109341

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[TV orNotTV] Re: Is this anybody we know?

[M-D November]

Damn. If he were wearing a Kansas City Chiefs jersey, I'd offer that he was 
Big Jim Slade.

On Thursday, August 8, 2013 11:33:53 AM UTC-4, Bob in Jersey wrote:
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>
> 
> He's easily 7-foot tall, and busts up stuff in his house while touting NFL 
> Sunday Ticket[tm] on DIRECTV.  -- B.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] The Story Of MTV And Stephen Colbert

[Adam Bowie]

They've been around for ages, but for a number of years now, they've only
appeared in costume with the helmets. And they've not done broadcast
interviews. They've given written interviews - but that's all from what I
can tell.

Their new album is excellent though, and Get Lucky isn't even the best
track on it.



Adam


On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 5:19 PM, PGage  wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 8:17 AM, David Bruggeman  wrote:
>
>> This NYT blog post suggests the dispute was legit.
>>
>>
>> http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/08/07/things-get-kind-of-crazy-among-colbert-daft-punk-and-mtv
>>
>
>
> Interesting note: "Daft Punk’s planned appearance had already been a
> source of stress for “Colbert” since the group was only willing to appear
> in costume, and not perform or sit for an interview."
>
> Is this saying that even if the appearance had gone as planned they would
> not have sung their song, and just showed up (without even doing an
> interview)? Why would MTV even have objected to that? If their costume is
> those weird helmets on their heads, and they were not going to sing or
> talk, why not just put two stage hands in helmets?
>
> As I say, I missed the significance of this at  first, because I assumed
> the entire thing was a joke - the promo of the group in advance and the
> excuse for why they did not show up. I do know who Robin Thicke is, and
> know his song, so I thought the joke was that Colbert was excited about
> having this ridiculous, made-up group that he thought had the song of the
> summer, and then wound up "settling" for the guy who really did have the
> song of the summer. The song he danced to even sounded like a made-up song
> to me. I guess I am the only one in the country who was not familiar with
> these guys. Do we know what they actually look like, or do they just
> perform with helmets?
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Re: [TV orNotTV] The Story Of MTV And Stephen Colbert

[Joe Hass]

The short version: Daft Punk was known for their house and electronica
music (I have a couple of their CD and they make regular appearances on my
playlists). They wrote and recorded the score for the Tron remake in 2010.
For "Random Access Memory", they decided to make a shift and pull off a
pretty impressive marketing campaign for "Get Lucky", which is how they
became one of those "eight-year overnight successes".

As for the significance of the helmets: they're real people in there, and
what they do (especially with live shows) is not something you could just
have someone else play the role (think Barney Gumbel as Krusty The Clown).
There's another electronic music performer called deadmau5 (pronounced
"dead mouse") who regularly DJs in an oversized head, and it'd be pretty
damned obvious if it wasn't him.

On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 11:19 AM, PGage  wrote:


> Interesting note: "Daft Punk’s planned appearance had already been a
> source of stress for “Colbert” since the group was only willing to appear
> in costume, and not perform or sit for an interview."
>
> Is this saying that even if the appearance had gone as planned they would
> not have sung their song, and just showed up (without even doing an
> interview)? Why would MTV even have objected to that? If their costume is
> those weird helmets on their heads, and they were not going to sing or
> talk, why not just put two stage hands in helmets?
>
> As I say, I missed the significance of this at  first, because I assumed
> the entire thing was a joke - the promo of the group in advance and the
> excuse for why they did not show up. I do know who Robin Thicke is, and
> know his song, so I thought the joke was that Colbert was excited about
> having this ridiculous, made-up group that he thought had the song of the
> summer, and then wound up "settling" for the guy who really did have the
> song of the summer. The song he danced to even sounded like a made-up song
> to me. I guess I am the only one in the country who was not familiar with
> these guys. Do we know what they actually look like, or do they just
> perform with helmets?
>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] The Story Of MTV And Stephen Colbert

[PGage]

On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 8:17 AM, David Bruggeman  wrote:

> This NYT blog post suggests the dispute was legit.
>
>
> http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/08/07/things-get-kind-of-crazy-among-colbert-daft-punk-and-mtv
>


Interesting note: "Daft Punk’s planned appearance had already been a source
of stress for “Colbert” since the group was only willing to appear in
costume, and not perform or sit for an interview."

Is this saying that even if the appearance had gone as planned they would
not have sung their song, and just showed up (without even doing an
interview)? Why would MTV even have objected to that? If their costume is
those weird helmets on their heads, and they were not going to sing or
talk, why not just put two stage hands in helmets?

As I say, I missed the significance of this at  first, because I assumed
the entire thing was a joke - the promo of the group in advance and the
excuse for why they did not show up. I do know who Robin Thicke is, and
know his song, so I thought the joke was that Colbert was excited about
having this ridiculous, made-up group that he thought had the song of the
summer, and then wound up "settling" for the guy who really did have the
song of the summer. The song he danced to even sounded like a made-up song
to me. I guess I am the only one in the country who was not familiar with
these guys. Do we know what they actually look like, or do they just
perform with helmets?

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Is this anybody we know?

[David Bruggeman]

I don't know who this is, but I was under the impression (based on other ads in 
this campaign) that the 'super-fan' is digitally enhanced to appear 30-50 
percent larger than the non-subscribers.

David





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Subject: [TV orNotTV] Is this anybody we know?
 


He's easily 7-foot tall, and busts up stuff in his house while touting NFL 
Sunday Ticket[tm] on DIRECTV.  -- B.

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[TV orNotTV] Is this anybody we know?

[Bob in Jersey]

He's easily 7-foot tall, and busts up stuff in his house while touting NFL 
Sunday Ticket[tm] on DIRECTV.  -- B.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] The Story Of MTV And Stephen Colbert

[Jon Delfin]

Watching the diatribe a second time, and including Colbert's remarks from
last night (which I've seen apparently misinterpreted by one major media
outlet), I'm swayed by the argument that the screwing by Viacom really did
happen, and the video was in the works ahead of time (and repurposed).


On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 11:17 AM, David Bruggeman  wrote:

> This NYT blog post suggests the dispute was legit.
>
>
> http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/08/07/things-get-kind-of-crazy-among-colbert-daft-punk-and-mtv
>
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> *To:* tvornottv@googlegroups.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 7, 2013 1:28 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [TV orNotTV] The Story Of MTV And Stephen Colbert
>
> On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 10:10 AM, David Bruggeman  wrote:
>
> The show started promoting Colbchella '013 on the air last week, so I
> think it reasonable that there's been some work on at least some part of
> last night's performance well in advance.  Heck, last year Colbert did
> Colbchella '012 from the Intrepid, which involved melding in-studio and
> onboard footage.
>
>
> Right - I think the question here though is, was the advance work in
> support of Daft Punk (I think it was, once I figured out that DP was real),
> or, as Jon suspects, were they always planning on having someone different
> on in the end?
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Re: [TV orNotTV] The Story Of MTV And Stephen Colbert

[David Bruggeman]

This NYT blog post suggests the dispute was legit.

http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/08/07/things-get-kind-of-crazy-among-colbert-daft-punk-and-mtv



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On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 10:10 AM, David Bruggeman  wrote:

The show started promoting Colbchella '013 on the air last week, so I think it 
reasonable that there's been some work on at least some part of last night's 
performance well in advance.  Heck, last year Colbert did Colbchella '012 from 
the Intrepid, which involved melding in-studio and onboard footage.
>

Right - I think the question here though is, was the advance work in support of 
Daft Punk (I think it was, once I figured out that DP was real), or, as Jon 
suspects, were they always planning on having someone different on in the end?
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[TV orNotTV] Re: 'Y&R' Actress Sues Agent for Arranging for--'Y&R' Audition!

[Bob in Jersey]

The agent's website is a laugh and a half... big, splashy, but generic 
photos, and if you click on any one, all it gets you is an e-mail addy to 
write to.

"Don't call us..."  -- B.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Fox Can Now Ruin Golf

[Adam Bowie]

Sky has a fairly international cast of anchors anyway, so aside from some
localised graphics, they're probably set.


Adam


On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 8:58 AM, PGage  wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 12:05 AM, Adam Bowie  wrote:
>
>> Sky Sports in the UK is a sister company of Fox, and they almost
>> exclusively cover golf in the UK. only the Open is on the BBC, alongside
>> shared coverage of the Masters. Everything else is Sky.
>>
>> And they do an excellent job. I think they're effectively host
>> broadcaster for much of the European Tour, and they put significant
>> additional resources into their PGA coverage beyond simply taking the US
>> network feed. That's especially so for the majors.
>>
>> So it'd be easy - and relatively safe - just to have the whole production
>> side over to Sky. Whether Fox would *want* to do that is another question.
>>
>
> I was thinking of something like this. Fox should definitely lean on Sky
> Sports then; TNT will be using a lot of ESPN resources this week at the
> PGA, and ESPN uses a lot of NBC resources when they have shared coverage.
> They could stick Joe Buck in the Host chair alongside who ever does the Sky
> Sports anchoring, and give it the face of Fox Sports with the guts of Sky.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Fox Can Now Ruin Golf

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On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 12:05 AM, Adam Bowie  wrote:

> Sky Sports in the UK is a sister company of Fox, and they almost
> exclusively cover golf in the UK. only the Open is on the BBC, alongside
> shared coverage of the Masters. Everything else is Sky.
>
> And they do an excellent job. I think they're effectively host broadcaster
> for much of the European Tour, and they put significant additional
> resources into their PGA coverage beyond simply taking the US network feed.
> That's especially so for the majors.
>
> So it'd be easy - and relatively safe - just to have the whole production
> side over to Sky. Whether Fox would *want* to do that is another question.
>

I was thinking of something like this. Fox should definitely lean on Sky
Sports then; TNT will be using a lot of ESPN resources this week at the
PGA, and ESPN uses a lot of NBC resources when they have shared coverage.
They could stick Joe Buck in the Host chair alongside who ever does the Sky
Sports anchoring, and give it the face of Fox Sports with the guts of Sky.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Fox Can Now Ruin Golf

[Adam Bowie]

Sky Sports in the UK is a sister company of Fox, and they almost
exclusively cover golf in the UK. only the Open is on the BBC, alongside
shared coverage of the Masters. Everything else is Sky.

And they do an excellent job. I think they're effectively host broadcaster
for much of the European Tour, and they put significant additional
resources into their PGA coverage beyond simply taking the US network feed.
That's especially so for the majors.

So it'd be easy - and relatively safe - just to have the whole production
side over to Sky. Whether Fox would *want* to do that is another question.

Adam
On 8 Aug 2013 02:14, "PGage"  wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Mark Jeffries wrote:
>
>> Fox Sports has picked up the rights to the U.S. Open, U.S. Seniors Open
>> and U.S. Women's Open--the mind boggles at what they might have in mind:
>>
>>
>> http://www.thewrap.com/media/article/fox-sports-secures-rights-first-golf-major-us-open-109271
>>
>
>
> Ugh!
>
> I like this quote, which translated I guess means "They gave us so much
> money that we don't care how much they embarrass us with their broadcast":
>
> “Our partnership with FOX Sports is a game-changer for our organization
> and for the game of golf,” USGA President Glen D. Nager said in a
> statement. “The game is evolving and requires bold and unique approaches on
> many levels, and FOX shares our vision to seek fresh thinking and
> innovative ideas to deliver championship golf. This partnership will help
> us to better lead and serve the game in new and exciting ways.”
>
> It does not start until 2015, so they have time to figure it out, but they
> will need a whole new broadcasting team, which for golf is extensive, and a
> whole production staff, which for golf is extensive. Do they have partners
> in Great Britain they can draw on?
>
> This is the start of what ESPN has been bracing for - Fox Sports 1
> throwing a shit load of cash to get live sports programing. ESPN has been
> trying to free up cash - but what are they going to spend it on? They
> already passed on the Olympics.
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