Re: [TV orNotTV] Super Bowl
A question if someone knows it off the top of their head: a quick search of Google isn't helping me. This tradition started with President Obama, right? I don't see a note of someone from Fox (who had Super Bowl 42) interviewing Dubya in 2008. On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 11:45 PM, PGage pga...@gmail.com wrote: I won't comment on the game, so can skip the spoiler space. I have a question about Fox's decision to again use Bill O'Reilly to interview the President. I am not suggesting they don't have the right to do that, but I am wondering why it is in their best interest to. All of my conservative friends passionately insist that it is unfair of me to dismiss Fox News as a serious news organization, because most of my examples are of their opinion shows, not the news shows, which they say are as good or better than any other news operation on television. So, why not ask someone like Chris Wallace, whose job it actually is to conduct news interviews on sundays, to interview the president on what must be the single largest audience Fox News would ever have? Wouldn't that do a lot more to enhance Fox News' somewhat tattered reputation in the general public? I know they like to feed their core audience red meat, but those guys are watching the Factor anyway. As it is, O'Reilly simply reinforces every negative stereotype non Fox News viewers already have about them. It just seems like a bad business decision to me. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] RIP Local TV News
The 2000 Carol Marin experiment pretty much killed serious local newscasts. I think Tom's right, both from the dead horse and reduced budget spiral perspectives. The problem, fundamentally, is that there is absolutely *no* hard news available in the majority of media markets (the newspapers are cut to the marrow). My suggestion (not that anyone would listen): aim for a single 35-minute newscast at 10 ET. If it's on a network, push the network broadcast back to 10:35. This would reduce the budget (news is just housewife filler at noon and 4-8 PM), increase the likelihood of getting a (slightly) younger audience, and would allow for shifting resources away from pointless live pieces to to less pointless pieces that allow for depth. Not that anyone wants that. I'll just shut up and stop dreaming now. On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 1:51 PM, Tom Wolper twol...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 1:51 PM, chia...@nc.rr.com wrote: I came across this article over at TVSpy, and it struck a nerve with me, not as an amateur journalist on a third-rate website, but as an observer of things I can't help observing. Last week, I was on a cruise for my birthday aboard the Carnival Fantasy, which gets its local TV feeds from Miami (sidebar: met a nice cruise director by the name of Lindsey. In the off-chance anyone runs into her, tell her Dino says hi). Back to Miami. I remember seeing an episode of CSI Miami's early seasons (a name-changed reporter that covered a murder that he himself perpetrated)... and again in a later season (pretty blonde reporter claiming she was a serious journalist, followed by Emily Calleigh Procter giving her what-for about working in a newspaper instead). Turns out truth nowadays is even worse than fiction judging from the week of news out of Miami I had to watch. But perhaps I ranted too much. Read on and judge for yourself. http://www.post-gazette.com/opinion/2014/01/31/Local-TV-news-RIP/stories/201401310003 Living in Pittsburgh, I caught up with this op-ed in the print version last week. At this point, I think the writer is beating a dead horse. Rather than just bemoaning the product and saying that they should better I wonder if it is possible for them to do a better job any more. Let's assume that people who need hard news for their jobs (financial sector, policy makers) or just follow hard news will get information through the day on the internet. People who just want to be in the know will have cable news on in the background or will sit and watch for a half hour or an hour. And studies have shown that people who watch local news are most interested in weather and sports. The reason they put them in the second half of the newscast is to encourage people to sit through as many commercials as possible. Local TV news has been going through the same budget cutting as newspapers. And as the median age of the local TV news viewer goes up ad revenue goes down. So given the depleted budgets and resources what would a better newscast look like and who would watch it? -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] RIP Local TV News
On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 12:51 PM, Joe Hass hassgoc...@gmail.com wrote: The 2000 Carol Marin experiment pretty much killed serious local newscasts. I think Tom's right, both from the dead horse and reduced budget spiral perspectives. The problem, fundamentally, is that there is absolutely *no* hard news available in the majority of media markets (the newspapers are cut to the marrow). My suggestion (not that anyone would listen): aim for a single 35-minute newscast at 10 ET. If it's on a network, push the network broadcast back to 10:35. This would reduce the budget (news is just housewife filler at noon and 4-8 PM), increase the likelihood of getting a (slightly) younger audience, and would allow for shifting resources away from pointless live pieces to to less pointless pieces that allow for depth. Not that anyone wants that. I'll just shut up and stop dreaming now. Another issue is population sprawl within a viewing area. I know Pittsburgh's population is just over 300,000 in a metropolitan area of 1.2 million. And when I see the graphic of temperatures in the viewing area on the local news I know it is much bigger than the metropolitan area. So stories about Pittsburgh government do not speak to the great majority of the residents of the viewing area unless it involves something like parking rates. And stories that are not fires or crime related in the smaller municipalities alienate the residents of Pittsburgh. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Tonight transition begins, and so do the layoffs
On Monday, February 3, 2014 11:54:26 AM UTC-8, MelissaP wrote: But it’s good to read that – finally -- LA is making progress toward using the Universal City station (which has plenty of room) as transit a hub. I know when I was there the last time, I wondered why more buses weren’t routed there. The buses in DC have always been used well to transport riders to subway stations. From what you say, it seems that LA has finally caught on to the way it’s done. North Hollywood Station is the major hub, since it is the terminus of the Red Line and is closer to the center of the Valley measured north-south. Universal City can never be more than a minor hub because it is literally in the southeastern corner, with fewer options for lines to be routed in/out or terminating there. I’ve used the 222 many times after shows at Warner Brothers, since I usually stay in Hollywood. However, when it’s going to arrive is always a crapshoot. It stuck to the schedule better when it was routed between Burbank Airport and Inglewood. You're going to feel really old when I tell you that it hasn't been routed that way since 1995, when that segment was broken away from Line 212 (it was done to make a way-too-long line more manageable). The night schedule is subject to a couple of factors that can affect its on-time performance. During Hollywood Bowl season, it frequently gets hung upon the south end in the traffic when a performance lets out (but then, so did Line 212 pre-1995) and on the north end the late night service also operates the Sherman Way Line 163 service all the way west across the Valley. These days, Metro has a real-time bus arrival tracking system that can be accessed by text from any cell phone. It uses GPS to see where the bus actually is then calculates the time it should take for it to get from there to whatever stop you're at. I've used it and it's about 98-99% accurate. There’s also service at least ‘til midnight on Ventura, which takes care of the CBS Studio. It’s only Disney that’s a problem. Line 150 runs once an hour on Ventura all-night between Warner Center and Universal City Station. There is a timed connection on the east end to a special Line 656 shuttle that goes through the Cahuenga Pass to Hollywood, and it connects to both of the all-night lines in Hollywood (217 on Hollywood Blvd. and 4 on Santa Monica Blvd.). So during the few hours overnight that the subway doesn't run there is still connectivity between the two sides of the hill. I'm less nervous about walking late at night in the Burbank Media District than I am on either Ventura Blvd. or in Hollywood, actually. But your point is well taken, Melissa, in that it's still more apprehension-causing than doing it in broad daylight. Sadly, there isn't enough day-in, day-out ridership demand to run Line 155 later. That was tried five or six years ago and it ended up being three or four passengers on a bus that seats 45. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] Jeopardy! Game Theory
Since the current champion's tactics got the attention of some press outlets (and the ire of some 'purists'), here's a more detailed story on Arthur Chu with credit to some of his predecessors who used (and/or developed) the tactics before him. http://www.thewire.com/entertainment/2014/02/yes-jeopardys-new-star-really-using-game-theory/357710/ I'm busy taking notes in case my exam this year was good enough to get to the audition... David -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] RIP Richard Nels Oleson Bull
Melissa Gilbert reported it on her Twitter feed and several news outlets confirmed it. He was 89. https://twitter.com/MelissaEGilbert/status/430732385429118977/photo/1 http://www.seattlepi.com/entertainment/tv/tvguide/article/Little-House-on-the-Prairie-Star-Richard-Bull-Dies-5203929.php If Heaven exists, I firmly believe one corner of it looks exactly like Walnut Grove, where the cast lives and hangs out. And I'm sure Victor French and Michael Landon are glad to see their shopkeeper has arrived, and Kevin Hagen has already mixed him a drink... for medicinal purposes, of course. I miss Michael Landon's laugh. It never sounded forced or insincere. He always seemed to be enjoying whatever it was he was doing. -- Kevin M. (RPCV) -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Super Bowl
On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Joe Hass hassgoc...@gmail.com wrote: A question if someone knows it off the top of their head: a quick search of Google isn't helping me. This tradition started with President Obama, right? I don't see a note of someone from Fox (who had Super Bowl 42) interviewing Dubya in 2008. I tried to find this on Sunday during the game and failed. I did find a youtube video of GWB being interviewed before the Super Bowl in 2004 (see: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoL62huhZ_Q), but note that he was interviewed by Jim Nance, and Nance of course was at the game (in Houston) and Bush was outside the WH. I could not find if Bush was interviewed at each subsequent Super Bowl, or if or how many presidents had been interviewed before. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: [TV orNotTV] Jeopardy! Game Theory
From: tvornottv@googlegroups.com [mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Bruggeman I'm busy taking notes in case my exam this year was good enough to get to the audition... FWIW, I've been doing a statistical position study on Jeopardy! this season, and while it's logical that the left-position player is most likely to win, the right-position player is most likely to finish in third. The numbers, through 102 shows: Left: Win (47), Place (31), Show (24) Center: W (30), P (37), S (35) Right: W (25), P (34), S (43) _ _ |_|_ Brad Beam- Belle WV |_|_ http://www.facebook.com/74bmw -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Jeopardy! Game Theory
One of the things I love about stories like this is the reaction to people who get the vapors about not doing things the old way. Someone incorporates data into a more logical way of play, and you'd think they'd be putting magnets and coils near Art Flemming's grave. What I think Chu has done better than anything is identify the great weakness of the current game: Final Jeopardy and the straight consolation prize. The elimination of winning your earnings as a consolation prize has turned it into a betting/math contest (since the money in front of you isn't yours unless you win). If someone from Sony really wanted to make things interesting, they could go at least go back to making consolation prizes related to your final score (perhaps 1/2 for second and 1/4 for third, maybe 1/3 and 1/6). On Tuesday, February 4, 2014, David Bruggeman bru...@yahoo.com wrote: Since the current champion's tactics got the attention of some press outlets (and the ire of some 'purists'), here's a more detailed story on Arthur Chu with credit to some of his predecessors who used (and/or developed) the tactics before him. http://www.thewire.com/entertainment/2014/02/yes-jeopardys-new-star-really-using-game-theory/357710/ I'm busy taking notes in case my exam this year was good enough to get to the audition... David -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tvornottv@googlegroups.com'); To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com'); For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tvornottv%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com'); . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] Former SNL star Victoria Jackson may run for Williamson County Commission
http://www.tennessean.com/article/20140203/WILLIAMSON01/302030069/Former-SNL-star-Victoria-Jackson-may-run-Williamson-County-Commission In recent years, Jackson has made a name for herself as an active Tea Party participant, conservative activist, outspoken opponent of President Barack Obama, and occasional Fox News contributor. Now, she wants to get directly involved at the local level. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Former SNL star Victoria Jackson may run for Williamson County Commission
Her opponent could run clips of her least funny SNL sketches in lieu of an attack ad. In other words, her opponent could run any of her SNL appearances... damning stuff. Can I just say that if Phil Hartman was still alive, he'd have ripped Victoria Jackson, Dennis Miller, and Jon Lovitz new a-holes for their nonsense politics? On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 8:10 PM, Trevor Tymchuk tre...@afewthings.ca wrote: http://www.tennessean.com/article/20140203/WILLIAMSON01/302030069/Former-SNL-star-Victoria-Jackson-may-run-Williamson-County-Commission In recent years, Jackson has made a name for herself as an active Tea Party participant, conservative activist, outspoken opponent of President Barack Obama, and occasional Fox News contributor. Now, she wants to get directly involved at the local level. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Kevin M. (RPCV) -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Former SNL star Victoria Jackson may run for Williamson County Commission
On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 8:19 PM, Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.com wrote: Her opponent could run clips of her least funny SNL sketches in lieu of an attack ad. In other words, her opponent could run any of her SNL appearances... damning stuff. Can I just say that if Phil Hartman was still alive, he'd have ripped Victoria Jackson, Dennis Miller, and Jon Lovitz new a-holes for their nonsense politics? I am not fan of Dennis Miller, or his politics, but putting him in the same sentence with Jackson, much less one in which he is only separated from her bat-shit crazy by a slim comma, is unfair to smarmy right wing assholes everywhere. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] Who's second in series lead totals?
Given the recent news about Scott Bakula, I checked to see the number of series where he played the lead. By my count, if the new NCIS goes to series, it would be seven. It's not even half of Robert Urich's total (15). For some reason I thought he'd be closer (or the gap smaller). Does anyone have a sense of who is the active leader for most series as lead? Perhaps Bill Cosby, whether or not his new show has him as a lead? David -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Who's second in series lead totals?
Robert Conrad has to be in the running On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 8:58 PM, David Bruggeman bru...@yahoo.com wrote: Given the recent news about Scott Bakula, I checked to see the number of series where he played the lead. By my count, if the new NCIS goes to series, it would be seven. It's not even half of Robert Urich's total (15). For some reason I thought he'd be closer (or the gap smaller). Does anyone have a sense of who is the active leader for most series as lead? Perhaps Bill Cosby, whether or not his new show has him as a lead? David -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Kevin M. (RPCV) -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Former SNL star Victoria Jackson may run for Williamson County Commission
On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 8:46 PM, PGage pga...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 8:19 PM, Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.com wrote: Her opponent could run clips of her least funny SNL sketches in lieu of an attack ad. In other words, her opponent could run any of her SNL appearances... damning stuff. Can I just say that if Phil Hartman was still alive, he'd have ripped Victoria Jackson, Dennis Miller, and Jon Lovitz new a-holes for their nonsense politics? I am not fan of Dennis Miller, or his politics, but putting him in the same sentence with Jackson, much less one in which he is only separated from her bat-shit crazy by a slim comma, is unfair to smarmy right wing assholes everywhere. I'll stand by what I wrote. I periodically check into his podcasts and have clicked on links to his O'Reilly appearances. I had to unfollow his Twitter feed because nearly every opinion he posted made my stomach turn. A fundamental difference between Miller and a typical right wing a-hole is his a-holeness isn't rooted in dogma. In what I'd consider a worse position, he thinks his beliefs are somehow rooted in logic or common sense. Based on things he's said, a Tea Party made up of Dennis Millers would be worse than a Tea Party made up of Victoria Jacksons. For what it is worth, I'd put up less of a defense towards lumping Lovitz in with the others... he just seems sad and bitter, which makes him an ideal Republican mouthpiece. If he was more successful, I doubt we'd hear him bashing Obama or railing about taxes. -- Kevin M. (RPCV) -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Who's second in series lead totals?
Rough count of IMDB stats puts Robert Conrad at 10. Two of them were spin-offs from other series, FWIW. A preliminary favorite for the active leader (though I don't expect him to add to the total). My sense is that anyone who would contend with Conrad is of a similar vintage (active primarily in the 60s-80s) to him and the late Mr. Urich. David From: Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.com To: tvornottv@googlegroups.com tvornottv@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2014 12:40 AM Subject: Re: [TV orNotTV] Who's second in series lead totals? Robert Conrad has to be in the running On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 8:58 PM, David Bruggeman bru...@yahoo.com wrote: Given the recent news about Scott Bakula, I checked to see the number of series where he played the lead. By my count, if the new NCIS goes to series, it would be seven. It's not even half of Robert Urich's total (15). For some reason I thought he'd be closer (or the gap smaller). Does anyone have a sense of who is the active leader for most series as lead? Perhaps Bill Cosby, whether or not his new show has him as a lead? David -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Kevin M. (RPCV) -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Former SNL star Victoria Jackson may run for Williamson County Commission
Lovitz also doesn't seem interested in shoehorning the criticisms into every opportunity he has to speak. The last few times Miller has been on with Craig, he's brought it up when Craig was clearly not interested. I've heard Lovitz lately on some comedy podcasts, and I didn't even know he was so inclined based on the conversations. David From: Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.com To: tvornottv@googlegroups.com tvornottv@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2014 12:50 AM Subject: Re: [TV orNotTV] Former SNL star Victoria Jackson may run for Williamson County Commission On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 8:46 PM, PGage pga...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 8:19 PM, Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.com wrote: Her opponent could run clips of her least funny SNL sketches in lieu of an attack ad. In other words, her opponent could run any of her SNL appearances... damning stuff. Can I just say that if Phil Hartman was still alive, he'd have ripped Victoria Jackson, Dennis Miller, and Jon Lovitz new a-holes for their nonsense politics? I am not fan of Dennis Miller, or his politics, but putting him in the same sentence with Jackson, much less one in which he is only separated from her bat-shit crazy by a slim comma, is unfair to smarmy right wing assholes everywhere. I'll stand by what I wrote. I periodically check into his podcasts and have clicked on links to his O'Reilly appearances. I had to unfollow his Twitter feed because nearly every opinion he posted made my stomach turn. A fundamental difference between Miller and a typical right wing a-hole is his a-holeness isn't rooted in dogma. In what I'd consider a worse position, he thinks his beliefs are somehow rooted in logic or common sense. Based on things he's said, a Tea Party made up of Dennis Millers would be worse than a Tea Party made up of Victoria Jacksons. For what it is worth, I'd put up less of a defense towards lumping Lovitz in with the others... he just seems sad and bitter, which makes him an ideal Republican mouthpiece. If he was more successful, I doubt we'd hear him bashing Obama or railing about taxes. -- Kevin M. (RPCV) -- - -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Former SNL star Victoria Jackson may run for Williamson County Commission
I in turn will stay with my position: Miller is a smarmy right wing asshole, while Jackson is bar-shit crazy. But I will grant this much to Kevin - some may prefer the former to the latter. On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 10:36 PM, Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 10:17 PM, David Bruggeman bru...@yahoo.com wrote: Lovitz also doesn't seem interested in shoehorning the criticisms into every opportunity he has to speak. The last few times Miller has been on with Craig, he's brought it up when Craig was clearly not interested. I've heard Lovitz lately on some comedy podcasts, and I didn't even know he was so inclined based on the conversations. If you track down some of the first set of podcasts he recorded with Kevin Smith, he got very vocal about his views. I want to like Lovitz, though, since he once knocked Andy Dick on his ass in a barroom brawl, but he's still into the nonsense politics. For that matter, I want to like Miller, since I understand he was extremely generous to the crews of his HBO and Tribune shows when he didn't have to be (a friend and former coworker once described Miller as the anti Dick Clark). I don't want to like Victoria Jackson. She made a living pretending to be a dumb blonde when it turns out she wasn't pretending. But finding things to like about them doesn't change the absurd political beliefs they hold. -- Kevin M. (RPCV) -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
