Re: [twsocket] SVN update notifications
On 17-02-2011 18:50, Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd wrote: Nothing mine, but a rapid Google search reveals this two > http://www.lakraven.com/delphi-stuff/ttwitter/ which use the Indy HTTP component, not ICS. It's a complex component, not trivial to convert to ICS. I'm already tweeting from the sample application included with this TTwitter component (even Unicode messages, something not possible with the original), and without any Indy dependency. All replaced by ICS equivalents. ;) -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] SVN update notifications
> This components, even if not ICS based, can help to upgrade the > email applications used by the TeamICS. > Or there are any problem in the usage of Indy components, mixed > with ICS components? It's an internal application after all. The SVN hook emailer is an internal application, written by Arno two years ago, that meets the needs of TeamICS and can easily support extra mailings. A new mailing list has little admin effort, except for bounced emails. I agree ICS Twitter or RSS components would be useful for ICS. Everyone here is a volunteer and such components usually only get written (or converted) when there is a commercial need for them, and they are then (usually) made available to others ICS users for free. Testing is also very important, and time consuming. I personally don't use Twitter, RSS or LinkedIn, so any such project has a major learning curve. I've been using the same 'social networking' site for over 25 years, and don't see a need for others - CIX. Angus -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] SVN update notifications
My recommendation would be a separate list. Best Regards, Mohit. 17/2/2011 | 11:26 PM. On 17/2/2011 11:17 PM, Francois PIETTE wrote: Hi Evryone ! As you know, ICS source code is available on a version control system repository (Subversion). This system is used by the development team to update the source files more or less in real time. Each time a change is done on the repository, we have the opportunity to send an email notification to interested peoples. The question is: Who is interested in receiving those notifications ? Why would you receive the notifications ? Just to know what change has been commited to the repository almost as soon as it is. Without this notification, you would have to use svn client to see the change log. Depending on the number of interested peoples, we will either send individual emails or use another mailing list. -- francois.pie...@overbyte.be The author of the freeware multi-tier middleware MidWare The author of the freeware Internet Component Suite (ICS) http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] SVN update notifications
The simplest would perhaps be to have a COMMIT mailing list on Google/ Yahoo. That way, it could also show up in search results? Best Regards, Mohit. 18/2/2011 | 9:51 AM. On 18/2/2011 4:15 AM, Francois PIETTE wrote: Depending on the number of interested peoples, we will either send individual emails or use another mailing list. Wasn't there already an announce mailing list? Yes, but svn notification would generate information not useful for announce subscribers, imo. I think not much people will ask to receive the notifications. -- francois.pie...@overbyte.be The author of the freeware multi-tier middleware MidWare The author of the freeware Internet Component Suite (ICS) http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] SVN update notifications
On 17-02-2011 18:50, Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd wrote: > http://sourceforge.net/projects/simplerss/ also use Indy HTTP, a complex XML project. In this case the Indy stuff is used only to format datetime values, very easy to replace. There is also an TIdHTTP component, used only in the LoadFromHTTP method, not really needed and easily replaceable by the ICS THttpCli. Using the bellow function, updating a local rss.xml file from that TeamICS e-mail client is as easy as this: if PostToRssFeed.checked and AddEntryToRSSFeed('c:\path\to\the\local\rss.xml', 'email.subject', 'email.message', 'http://url/to/the/update') then begin //upload updated c:\path\to\the\rss.xml file online end; - Global FormatSettings, related to DateTime format, should also be set to English defaults, if Windows regional settings are different. - The local feed file can be started by grabbing an online feed, fill the header fields with relevant ICS info, and removing all the items. rss feed specifications http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/rss/rss.html uses SimpleRSS, SimpleRSSTypes; function AddEntryToRSSFeed(const aRSSFilename, aTitle, aDescription, aLink: string): boolean; var SimpleRSS: TSimpleRSS; begin result := false; SimpleRSS := TSimpleRSS.Create(nil); try SimpleRSS.LoadFromFile(aRSSFilename); with SimpleRSS.Items.Add do begin Title := aTitle; Description := aDescription; Link := aLink; GUID.Include := true; PubDate.DateTime := now; end; SimpleRSS.GenerateXML; SimpleRSS.SaveToFile(aRSSFilename); result := true; finally SimpleRSS.free; end; end; -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] SVN update notifications
Depending on the number of interested peoples, we will either send individual emails or use another mailing list. Wasn't there already an announce mailing list? Yes, but svn notification would generate information not useful for announce subscribers, imo. I think not much people will ask to receive the notifications. -- francois.pie...@overbyte.be The author of the freeware multi-tier middleware MidWare The author of the freeware Internet Component Suite (ICS) http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] SVN update notifications
Since we already have an internal e-mail notification sent to TeamICS members (based on TSmtpCli) it would be easy to send another copy to some mailing list. How about upgrade that program to add a new entry to a RSS feed, and post a new Twitter message? That would of course be nice. But this require a lot of work to create the software to do that, and then to maintain it in operation. I don't think we have the resources to do that. Old mailing list are good, but ther's no assurance the message will arrive to all users e-mail box. No more no less that tweet or RSS. The mailing list is really very reliable so far as is email. Everybody depends on email today so it has to be reliable anyway. What would be really interesting is to find someone wanting to write a program, using ICS components, creating new one if required, which would serve as a gateway. That program shall use the POP3 component to receive emails from a given email account somewhere, retrieve messages posted by the SVN emailer and blash it to tweeter, RSS, FaceBook and LinkedIn. That guy should also have a server to make the gateway running and have some spare time to operate it properly. That would be very nice :-) -- francois.pie...@overbyte.be The author of the freeware multi-tier middleware MidWare The author of the freeware Internet Component Suite (ICS) http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] SVN update notifications
On 17-02-2011 18:50, Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd wrote: Nothing mine, but a rapid Google search reveals this two http://www.lakraven.com/delphi-stuff/ttwitter/ which use the Indy HTTP component, not ICS. It's a complex component, not trivial to convert to ICS. http://sourceforge.net/projects/simplerss/ also use Indy HTTP, a complex XML project. This only proves that, probably, the ICS project needs more exposition, and the new "webstuff's", IMHO, can help. The eminent goal, subject of this thread, is how to communicate SVN updates to users. This components, even if not ICS based, can help to upgrade the email applications used by the TeamICS. Or there are any problem in the usage of Indy components, mixed with ICS components? It's an internal application after all. -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] SVN update notifications
Scrive Francois PIETTE : [...] > Depending on the number of interested peoples, we will either send > individual emails or use another mailing list. Wasn't there already an announce mailing list? Bye, Maurizio. This mail has been sent using Alpikom webmail system http://www.alpikom.it -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] SVN update notifications
> Nothing mine, but a rapid Google search reveals this two > http://www.lakraven.com/delphi-stuff/ttwitter/ which use the Indy HTTP component, not ICS. It's a complex component, not trivial to convert to ICS. > http://sourceforge.net/projects/simplerss/ also use Indy HTTP, a complex XML project. Angus -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] SVN update notifications
On 17-02-2011 17:38, Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd wrote: Or are you offering to contribute them? The Twitter component could be provided by brian - , that the other day asked in this list about passing OAuth parameters in the request header. -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] SVN update notifications
Because ICS does not have Twitter or RSS components! Or are you offering to contribute them? Nothing mine, but a rapid Google search reveals this two http://www.lakraven.com/delphi-stuff/ttwitter/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/simplerss/ -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] SVN update notifications
- Original Message - From: "RTT" To: "ICS support mailing" Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 6:27 PM Subject: Re: [twsocket] SVN update notifications > On 17-02-2011 17:18, Arno Garrels wrote: >> Since we already have an internal e-mail notification sent to TeamICS >> members (based on TSmtpCli) it would be easy to send another copy to >> some mailing list. > How about upgrade that program to add a new entry to a RSS feed, and > post a new Twitter message? Old mailing list are good, but ther's no > assurance the message will arrive to all users e-mail box. Well, if somebody wants to support social networks or RSS feeds she has to implement that herself. I'm conservative, in such a way that I use NNTP or mailing lists exclusively. This webstuff is just stealing my time. -- Arno Garrels -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] SVN update notifications
> How about upgrade that program to add a new entry to a RSS feed, > and post a new Twitter message? Old mailing list are good, but > ther's no assurance the message will arrive to all users e-mail box. Because ICS does not have Twitter or RSS components! Or are you offering to contribute them? Angus -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] SVN update notifications
On 17-02-2011 17:18, Arno Garrels wrote: Since we already have an internal e-mail notification sent to TeamICS members (based on TSmtpCli) it would be easy to send another copy to some mailing list. How about upgrade that program to add a new entry to a RSS feed, and post a new Twitter message? Old mailing list are good, but ther's no assurance the message will arrive to all users e-mail box. -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] SVN update notifications
- Original Message - From: "Anton S." To: Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 6:00 PM Subject: Re: [twsocket] SVN update notifications >I think another maillist would be fine bacause you won't have to maintain an >actual list of people interested in notifications. > RSS would be good too. Since we already have an internal e-mail notification sent to TeamICS members (based on TSmtpCli) it would be easy to send another copy to some mailing list. -- Arno Garrels -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] SVN update notifications
I think another maillist would be fine bacause you won't have to maintain an actual list of people interested in notifications. RSS would be good too. -- Anton -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] SVN update notifications
I would like to get those news in my inbox. Regards, SubZero On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 5:17 PM, Francois PIETTE wrote: > Hi Evryone ! > > As you know, ICS source code is available on a version control system > repository (Subversion). > This system is used by the development team to update the source files more > or less in real time. > > Each time a change is done on the repository, we have the opportunity to > send an email notification to interested peoples. > > The question is: Who is interested in receiving those notifications ? > > Why would you receive the notifications ? Just to know what change has been > commited to the repository almost as soon as it is. Without this > notification, you would have to use svn client to see the change log. > > Depending on the number of interested peoples, we will either send > individual emails or use another mailing list. > -- > francois.pie...@overbyte.be > The author of the freeware multi-tier middleware MidWare > The author of the freeware Internet Component Suite (ICS) > http://www.overbyte.be > > -- > To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list > please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket > Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be > -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] SVN update notifications
On 17-02-2011 15:17, Francois PIETTE wrote: Depending on the number of interested peoples, we will either send individual emails or use another mailing list. How about an RSS feed and a Twitter ICSSVN account? :-) -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be