RE: [U2] UniObject.Net error
Hello Jason For us, this usually happens when you close a session that's not open. Typically this happens because an I/O step fails in a way that causes the session to close. I think, but I'm not sure, that in some cases UniObjects does not throw an error. Or, it could be that we're catching the error and not re-throwing it if it's an unexpected condition. I think there is a property on the session you can test, I believe it's .IsActive. (I'm answering this from home, so I'm going from memory.) But in any case, find the code where this error is being thrown, and check to see if the session object is still valid when it tries to close Hope this helps Victor St. Clair -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 3:37 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] UniObject.Net error Hi all. I started doing some testing on UniObject .Net and Visual Basic 2005. Everything in my program works fine except I get the following run-time error upon exiting the program: --- System.Exception was unhandled Message="Safe handle has been closed Source: System Method: System.Net.Sockets.SocketError shutdown(System.Net.SafeCloseSocket, Int32) at System.Net.UnsafeNclNativeMethods.OSSOCK.shutdown(SafeCloseSocket socketHandle, Int32 how)\r\n at System.Net.Sockets.Socket.Shutdown(SocketShutdown how)\r\n at IBMU2.UODOTNET.UniRPCConnection.Close()\r\n at IBMU2.UODOTNET.UniSession.Disconnect()\r\n at IBMU2.UODOTNET.UniObjects.CloseSession(UniSession us)" Source="UODOTNET" StackTrace: at IBMU2.UODOTNET.UniObjects.CloseSession(UniSession us) at IBMU2.UODOTNET.UniSession.Finalize() --- This error can not be trapped using VB's try-catch statement so I suspect it's a run-time issue between UniObject and .Net Framework 2.0 which is used by Visual Studio 2005. Does anyone know if there are compatibility issues between UniObject .Net and .Net 2.0 Framework? And is there a solution resolve the issue? Thanks. Jason --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
[U2] UniObject.Net error
Hi all. I started doing some testing on UniObject .Net and Visual Basic 2005. Everything in my program works fine except I get the following run-time error upon exiting the program: --- System.Exception was unhandled Message="Safe handle has been closed Source: System Method: System.Net.Sockets.SocketError shutdown(System.Net.SafeCloseSocket, Int32) at System.Net.UnsafeNclNativeMethods.OSSOCK.shutdown(SafeCloseSocket socketHandle, Int32 how)\r\n at System.Net.Sockets.Socket.Shutdown(SocketShutdown how)\r\n at IBMU2.UODOTNET.UniRPCConnection.Close()\r\n at IBMU2.UODOTNET.UniSession.Disconnect()\r\n at IBMU2.UODOTNET.UniObjects.CloseSession(UniSession us)" Source="UODOTNET" StackTrace: at IBMU2.UODOTNET.UniObjects.CloseSession(UniSession us) at IBMU2.UODOTNET.UniSession.Finalize() --- This error can not be trapped using VB's try-catch statement so I suspect it's a run-time issue between UniObject and .Net Framework 2.0 which is used by Visual Studio 2005. Does anyone know if there are compatibility issues between UniObject .Net and .Net 2.0 Framework? And is there a solution resolve the issue? Thanks. Jason --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] UV 10.2 Data encryption/ Unidata Soon?
Don, In the meantime, if you need secure encryption for SSN or Credit Card numbers in Unidata NOW, I have an RC4 encryption algorithm in UniBasic that is pretty easy to implement. Since RC4 can generate characters all across the ASCII spectrum, I also have a base64 encode/decode routine so the encrypted data can be stored safely in a multi-valued file. Let me know if you're interested. Larry Hiscock Western Computer Services > Are they plans to include this in a Unidata release anytime soon? I have > a few hundred thousand SSN numbers that are feeling a bit > unprotected in the big bad cold world of ours. =) --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] SSH on Windows Server
The way SSH works there doesn't allow 'straight' through TCL access, however I believe there's a file you can put in the home directory which can contain the following DOS-equivalent commands: cd /path/to/UV/account /path/to/UV/bin/dir/UVSH.exe which will essentially accomplish the same thing. I'm a Unix person so don't have the real name of the file which is executed on login, so can't help further. You could just put those lines in a batch file: LOGIN.BAT @echo off D: cd \uv\accounts\PRODACCT \uv\bin\uvsh.exe exit HTH, Karl > We have installed UniVerse 10.1 on a Windows 2003 Server and have set up > an account in UniVerse. We are able to telnet to the server and get to > TCL in that account. > > We have also installed SSH Server from SSH.COM and we are able to SSH to > the box and get to the command prompt (C:\). > > > > What we are trying to find out is how do we set up SSH so that the SSH > client will access UniVerse. > > > > Karen Huntington > > Aztec Shops, Ltd. > > > > > > > > - > > Aztec Shops LTD - 29/9/2006 > --- > u2-users mailing list > u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ > -- karl _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ __o _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _-\<._ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ (_)/ (_) _/ _/ _/ _/ .. _/ _/ arl _/_/_/ _/ earson[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- IT Director, ATS Industrial Supply, Inc. http://www.atsindustrial.com Toll-free: 800-789-9300 x29 Direct2Desk: 801-978-4429 Facsimile: 801-972-3888 -- --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] UV 10.2 Data encryption/ Unidata Soon?
UniData is next up with the same round of updates - I bet 2007Q1 This year UniData was second... Next year (like list year) UniData will be first. It's IBM's way to make everyone feel equally downtrodden DW -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Verhagen Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 2:55 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] UV 10.2 Data encryption/ Unidata Soon? Steve, Are they plans to include this in a Unidata release anytime soon? I have a few hundred thousand SSN numbers that are feeling a bit unprotected in the big bad cold world of ours. =) Thanks, -- Donald Verhagen Application Development Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tandem Staffing Solutions, Inc. 5901 Broken Sound Parkway NW, Suite 450 Boca Raton, FL 33487 USA Voice Phone: 561.226.8261 Fax Phone: 561.226.8115 >>> On 9/29/2006 at 10:14 am, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > OK Gals & Guys! This has a really big feature in it... Data encryption at > rest! > > Stated another way... You can encrypt individual fields of a file, like > the CREDIT CARD NUMBER, with little or no programming changes! > > From the announcement "UniVerse 10.2 automates encryption of data at rest, > protecting important information and meeting government standards. This > advanced technology utilizes today's modern cryptology techniques to > secure data at rest with little to zero changes to applications. Utilizing > a new graphical interface, administrators can create the security rules > needed for their organization, thus protecting sensitive information at > the field or record level." > > FYI... >Steve > >Stephen M. O'Neal >Lab Services Sales for U2 >IBM SWG Information Management Lab Services > > > > > > "Hennessey, Mark F." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 09/29/2006 06:56 AM > Please respond to > u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > > > To > u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > cc > > Subject > [U2] UV 10.2 has been announced > > > > > > > Did everyone get their marketing-gram from Janet Oswald? > --- > We are pleased to announce that IBM UniVerse. 10.2 will be generally > available on September 29, 2006. This release protects personal data, > supports U2 Web Services, strengthens and streamlines high availability, > and more! > > > Read the full product announcement at > http://www.ibm.com/software/data/u2/universe/universe10-2.html > > If you have any questions on the information, please send them to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- > > It appears that the product availability page has not been updated yet > > Mark Hennessey > --- > u2-users mailing list > u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ > --- > u2-users mailing list > u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
[U2] SSH on Windows Server
We have installed UniVerse 10.1 on a Windows 2003 Server and have set up an account in UniVerse. We are able to telnet to the server and get to TCL in that account. We have also installed SSH Server from SSH.COM and we are able to SSH to the box and get to the command prompt (C:\). What we are trying to find out is how do we set up SSH so that the SSH client will access UniVerse. Karen Huntington Aztec Shops, Ltd. - Aztec Shops LTD - 29/9/2006 --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
[U2] UV 10.2 Data encryption/ Unidata Soon?
Steve, Are they plans to include this in a Unidata release anytime soon? I have a few hundred thousand SSN numbers that are feeling a bit unprotected in the big bad cold world of ours. =) Thanks, -- Donald Verhagen Application Development Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tandem Staffing Solutions, Inc. 5901 Broken Sound Parkway NW, Suite 450 Boca Raton, FL 33487 USA Voice Phone: 561.226.8261 Fax Phone: 561.226.8115 >>> On 9/29/2006 at 10:14 am, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > OK Gals & Guys! This has a really big feature in it... Data encryption at > rest! > > Stated another way... You can encrypt individual fields of a file, like > the CREDIT CARD NUMBER, with little or no programming changes! > > From the announcement "UniVerse 10.2 automates encryption of data at rest, > protecting important information and meeting government standards. This > advanced technology utilizes today's modern cryptology techniques to > secure data at rest with little to zero changes to applications. Utilizing > a new graphical interface, administrators can create the security rules > needed for their organization, thus protecting sensitive information at > the field or record level." > > FYI... >Steve > >Stephen M. O'Neal >Lab Services Sales for U2 >IBM SWG Information Management Lab Services > > > > > > "Hennessey, Mark F." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 09/29/2006 06:56 AM > Please respond to > u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > > > To > u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > cc > > Subject > [U2] UV 10.2 has been announced > > > > > > > Did everyone get their marketing-gram from Janet Oswald? > --- > We are pleased to announce that IBM UniVerse. 10.2 will be generally > available on September 29, 2006. This release protects personal data, > supports U2 Web Services, strengthens and streamlines high availability, > and more! > > > Read the full product announcement at > http://www.ibm.com/software/data/u2/universe/universe10-2.html > > If you have any questions on the information, please send them to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- > > It appears that the product availability page has not been updated yet > > Mark Hennessey > --- > u2-users mailing list > u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ > --- > u2-users mailing list > u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Oh for pity sake!
I have received several private responses, some directly on-topic, some tangential to that "incubator" post. Either way, don't feel that you must respond privately just because I said I didn't mean to post that roughest of drafts publicly. It wasn't a big secret, just too much ruffage for human consumption. I enjoy the private correspondence, but don't feel compelled. Most comments were worthy of public posting. Chuck Stevenson --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] UV 10.2 has been announced - Read This - Includes data encryption little or no programming changes
OK Gals & Guys! This has a really big feature in it... Data encryption at rest! Stated another way... You can encrypt individual fields of a file, like the CREDIT CARD NUMBER, with little or no programming changes! That's one of the things that's got me excited. I'd love to see the documentation for this. (Not online yet...) I'm confused - it seems to me that either programming changes are required or not... --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] Oh for pity sake!
Crap...sorry about that! On 9/29/06, jpb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: No apology necessary, it's nice to see that the board is being proactive. However, I don't think that only the developers should have access to the knowledgebase we in-house developers also need the information. Although we don't sell any developed software built on the uniVerse database we do develop software for our company's own use. It would help if we also got the information other developers have access to. - Original Message - From: "Stevenson, Charles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 8:26 PM Subject: [U2] Oh for pity sake! >I sent a really reeally rough 1st draft to the u2-list where I was > supposed to send it to the U2UG board. > It was one of those cases where I realized what I was doing as my finger > descended on the mouse button to SEND, but not soon enough to get the > message to my finger to back off. I made a dive to rip the cable out > of the modem, but too late. > > So if & when you read it, don't put much stock in it. > > It's not that it's a big secret, but it was just a few first > impressions from a free-form brainstorm in yesterday's U2UG board > meeting. > Not ready for public. Heck, I didn't even use spell-checker on it. > Let alone thought-checker. Just a scribble for others to add to & > correct. > > We are just tossing some ideas around about how we can help new > developers consider using U2 as a platform. > It's not bad that the idea is now open to the public, but this is a > lousy way to do it. That email was not really representative of even > what went on in the meeting, just my limited understanding through a > flakey cell phone. > > My apologies to all, > > Chuck Stevenson > U2UG board member. > --- > u2-users mailing list > u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] Incubator proposal
Hmmm...sounds like responsibility to me. Something like... "We have to consider requests from many potential users being met in a timely fashion and also that users whose requests do not get met in this timely fashion are free to broadcast dissatisfaction to the entire group. This unhappiness may in turn reflect badly on IBM or the software, when in fact is is the usergroup that the unhappiness is broadcast toward." Just...misplaced resentment...? I don't see timeliness truly being a problem, but some potential people are weird when they don't get an answer within half an hour. On 9/28/06, Stevenson, Charles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I promised to get something out there. Not very good yet so letter rip. Don't worry about hurting my feelings. I am not sure I fully grasped some of the complaints or suggestions so start filling in the holes. cds Problem: Software developers who have limited exposure to U2 have obstacles to choosing it. Difficulties: * installing a trial or PE version * finding technical resources * learning the environment * finding technical help * packaging their application for sale * reselling the U2 platform with their product. Proposal: U2UG serve as an incubator to bring developers to the point of IBM-partnership. * Portal to IBM's free U2UG versions * Negotiating the IBM's (cob)web-site can be difficult. * We intend to make links to IBM's U2-related web-sites, thus becoming an easy way for U2 users to find relevant info. * Access to downloadable software, white papers, for would-be-developers fits this existing goal. * Agreement with IBM to be responsible for support for those acquiring s/w via U2UG * U2UG lacks any legal status, it cannot resell or be a partner, but that should not prevent IBM from acknowledging it and working with U2UG to distribute software or rely on U2UG to service these users. * Implies a formal mechanism where developers could get free or cheap development software and IBM recognizes these as U2UG as the responsible middleman, similar to a partner reseller who supports the product. * Provide support via our forums (web &/or email-based) for installation, learning, problem-solving. * This is consistent with what already exists and our desire to expand it. * There is a chicken&egg effect where the more it is used, the more relevant the forums are, which increases its use. Officially adding support for would-be developers adds to that mass. Discussion: This fits nicely with U2UG's reason for being: * Education and mutual aid for users * Promotion of U2 products, environment, & culture * Work with IBM Charles Stevenson DBA ICTO Getronics 836 North Street Tewksbury, MA 01876 714-685-1004 desk 714-396-2771 cell 978-858-8631 fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.getronics.com/us The information transmitted is intended only for use by the addressee and may contain confidential and /or privileged material. Any review, re-transmission, dissemination or other use of it, or the taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons an/or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please inform the sender and/or addressee immediately and delete the material. Thank you. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] UV 10.2 has been announced - Read This - Includes data encryption little or no programming changes
OK Gals & Guys! This has a really big feature in it... Data encryption at rest! Stated another way... You can encrypt individual fields of a file, like the CREDIT CARD NUMBER, with little or no programming changes! >From the announcement "UniVerse 10.2 automates encryption of data at rest, protecting important information and meeting government standards. This advanced technology utilizes today's modern cryptology techniques to secure data at rest with little to zero changes to applications. Utilizing a new graphical interface, administrators can create the security rules needed for their organization, thus protecting sensitive information at the field or record level." FYI... Steve Stephen M. O'Neal Lab Services Sales for U2 IBM SWG Information Management Lab Services "Hennessey, Mark F." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/29/2006 06:56 AM Please respond to u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org cc Subject [U2] UV 10.2 has been announced Did everyone get their marketing-gram from Janet Oswald? --- We are pleased to announce that IBM UniVerse. 10.2 will be generally available on September 29, 2006. This release protects personal data, supports U2 Web Services, strengthens and streamlines high availability, and more! Read the full product announcement at http://www.ibm.com/software/data/u2/universe/universe10-2.html If you have any questions on the information, please send them to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- It appears that the product availability page has not been updated yet Mark Hennessey --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] UV 10.2 has been announced
When is 11 due ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hennessey, Mark F. Sent: 29 September 2006 13:56 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] UV 10.2 has been announced Did everyone get their marketing-gram from Janet Oswald? --- We are pleased to announce that IBM UniVerse. 10.2 will be generally available on September 29, 2006. This release protects personal data, supports U2 Web Services, strengthens and streamlines high availability, and more! Read the full product announcement at http://www.ibm.com/software/data/u2/universe/universe10-2.html If you have any questions on the information, please send them to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- It appears that the product availability page has not been updated yet Mark Hennessey --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] UV 10.2 has been announced
> Did everyone get their marketing-gram from Janet Oswald? > --- > We are pleased to announce that IBM UniVerse. 10.2 will be generally > available on September 29, 2006. This release protects personal data, > supports U2 Web Services, strengthens and streamlines high availability, > and more! > > > Read the full product announcement at > http://www.ibm.com/software/data/u2/universe/universe10-2.html Am I correct that the SSL enhancements only apply if your server is a Microsoft solution? Hmmm? Karl > > If you have any questions on the information, please send them to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- > > It appears that the product availability page has not been updated yet > > Mark Hennessey > --- > u2-users mailing list > u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ > -- karl _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ __o _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _-\<._ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ (_)/ (_) _/ _/ _/ _/ .. _/ _/ arl _/_/_/ _/ earson[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- IT Director, ATS Industrial Supply, Inc. http://www.atsindustrial.com Toll-free: 800-789-9300 x29 Direct2Desk: 801-978-4429 Facsimile: 801-972-3888 -- --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] Oh for pity sake!
No apology necessary, it's nice to see that the board is being proactive. However, I don't think that only the developers should have access to the knowledgebase we in-house developers also need the information. Although we don't sell any developed software built on the uniVerse database we do develop software for our company's own use. It would help if we also got the information other developers have access to. - Original Message - From: "Stevenson, Charles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 8:26 PM Subject: [U2] Oh for pity sake! I sent a really reeally rough 1st draft to the u2-list where I was supposed to send it to the U2UG board. It was one of those cases where I realized what I was doing as my finger descended on the mouse button to SEND, but not soon enough to get the message to my finger to back off. I made a dive to rip the cable out of the modem, but too late. So if & when you read it, don't put much stock in it. It's not that it's a big secret, but it was just a few first impressions from a free-form brainstorm in yesterday's U2UG board meeting. Not ready for public. Heck, I didn't even use spell-checker on it. Let alone thought-checker. Just a scribble for others to add to & correct. We are just tossing some ideas around about how we can help new developers consider using U2 as a platform. It's not bad that the idea is now open to the public, but this is a lousy way to do it. That email was not really representative of even what went on in the meeting, just my limited understanding through a flakey cell phone. My apologies to all, Chuck Stevenson U2UG board member. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
[U2] UV 10.2 has been announced
Did everyone get their marketing-gram from Janet Oswald? --- We are pleased to announce that IBM UniVerse. 10.2 will be generally available on September 29, 2006. This release protects personal data, supports U2 Web Services, strengthens and streamlines high availability, and more! Read the full product announcement at http://www.ibm.com/software/data/u2/universe/universe10-2.html If you have any questions on the information, please send them to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- It appears that the product availability page has not been updated yet Mark Hennessey --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Oh for pity sake!
Chuck Stevenson wrote: > So if & when you read it, don't put much stock in it. This was obviously a ploy to see if anyone is paying attention to your confidentiality disclaimer at the bottom of the note. ;) Anyone who did abide by your wishes would have deleted the note as directed, and thus wouldn't have any idea what you're beating yourself up about. Of course they probably would have read the whole note before they got to the bottom to find out that they shouldn't have (re)viewed it in the first place - do you sue for breach of terms? :) Seriously - I didn't look at the doc but it's good to know you guys are actively working on ideas. Power to ya! --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
