Re: [OT][U2] Wintegrate
If you must get wintegrate, it should still be available from IBM. I would strongly go with Accuterm as it wins hands down on many comparisons. Unless your apps are married to wintegrate's gui components. Accuterm's GUI designer is huge. 2 of my clients have dictated that all new programs are done with it and it works perfectly side by side in a green screen environment. Best of all, Accuterm is $1,000 for 50 licenses versus $225 each from IBM. You do the math. My 1,000 cents Mark Johnson - Original Message - From: Nick Cipollina [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 11:47 AM Subject: [OT][U2] Wintegrate Does anyone know where I can get a copy of Wintegrate? Thanks, Nick Cipollina MCTS, MCP ACS Heritage, Inc. 2810 North Parham Road, Suite 210 Richmond, VA 23294 (804) 965-8294 --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [OT][U2] Wintegrate
Have you checked into Dynamic Connect? It is the default supplied with Unidata/Universe PE version. Vance Alspach Mark Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/14/2006 12:03 PM Please respond to u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org cc Subject Re: [OT][U2] Wintegrate If you must get wintegrate, it should still be available from IBM. I would strongly go with Accuterm as it wins hands down on many comparisons. Unless your apps are married to wintegrate's gui components. Accuterm's GUI designer is huge. 2 of my clients have dictated that all new programs are done with it and it works perfectly side by side in a green screen environment. Best of all, Accuterm is $1,000 for 50 licenses versus $225 each from IBM. You do the math. My 1,000 cents Mark Johnson Does anyone know where I can get a copy of Wintegrate? Thanks, Nick Cipollina --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [OT][U2] Wintegrate
I want wIntegrate because of the tie-in to unidebugger, which can then be tied into PRC which we are going to be purchasing soon. Thanks, Nick Cipollina -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 1:13 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [OT][U2] Wintegrate Have you checked into Dynamic Connect? It is the default supplied with Unidata/Universe PE version. Vance Alspach Mark Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/14/2006 12:03 PM Please respond to u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org cc Subject Re: [OT][U2] Wintegrate If you must get wintegrate, it should still be available from IBM. I would strongly go with Accuterm as it wins hands down on many comparisons. Unless your apps are married to wintegrate's gui components. Accuterm's GUI designer is huge. 2 of my clients have dictated that all new programs are done with it and it works perfectly side by side in a green screen environment. Best of all, Accuterm is $1,000 for 50 licenses versus $225 each from IBM. You do the math. My 1,000 cents Mark Johnson Does anyone know where I can get a copy of Wintegrate? Thanks, Nick Cipollina --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [OT][U2] Wintegrate
No No No- Wintegrate wins against Accuterm any day . On 14/12/06, Mark Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you must get wintegrate, it should still be available from IBM. I would strongly go with Accuterm as it wins hands down on many comparisons. Unless your apps are married to wintegrate's gui components. Accuterm's GUI designer is huge. 2 of my clients have dictated that all new programs are done with it and it works perfectly side by side in a green screen environment. Best of all, Accuterm is $1,000 for 50 licenses versus $225 each from IBM. You do the math. My 1,000 cents Mark Johnson - Original Message - From: Nick Cipollina [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 11:47 AM Subject: [OT][U2] Wintegrate Does anyone know where I can get a copy of Wintegrate? Thanks, Nick Cipollina MCTS, MCP ACS Heritage, Inc. 2810 North Parham Road, Suite 210 Richmond, VA 23294 (804) 965-8294 --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [OT][U2] Wintegrate
Strange. You actually need to install Dynamic Connect to use UniDebugger. With Wintgrate you may not need to, but it seems to be a bit of overkill just for UniDebugger. I'd make sure that Dynamic Connect won't work for you before buying Wintegrate. If you already have then please disregard Hth Colin Alfke Calgary Canada -Original Message- From: Nick Cipollina I want wIntegrate because of the tie-in to unidebugger, which can then be tied into PRC which we are going to be purchasing soon. Thanks, Nick Cipollina --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [OT][U2] Wintegrate
If I remember correctly Dynamic Connect is a dumbed down version of Wintegrate. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 3:07 PM Subject: RE: [OT][U2] Wintegrate Strange. You actually need to install Dynamic Connect to use UniDebugger. With Wintgrate you may not need to, but it seems to be a bit of overkill just for UniDebugger. I'd make sure that Dynamic Connect won't work for you before buying Wintegrate. If you already have then please disregard Hth Colin Alfke Calgary Canada -Original Message- From: Nick Cipollina I want wIntegrate because of the tie-in to unidebugger, which can then be tied into PRC which we are going to be purchasing soon. Thanks, Nick Cipollina --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [OT][U2] Wintegrate
When you install unidebugger, it first looks for Wintegrate and if that's not available it sets up to work with dynamic connect. However if afterwards wintegrate is uninstalled or a demo versio has expired, then unidebugger will not start with an error message related to wintegrate. If you uninstall and reinstall the unidebugger without wintegrate on the client, it wil work with dynamic connect. Regards David Jordan --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [OT][U2] Wintegrate
I'm all ears. I've been using Wintegrate for 10 years (most recent is W98) and was Pro-Wintegrate up until 2 years ago when a client wanted to get out from under VE-Client (that's another disaster). I wrote up my side of the story and another consultant posted his side about Accuterm 2K2 (The latest). Side, by side things were equal until we got to WED, GED and, best of all (although no flames for being only price conscious), the price. IBM wanted $225 per seat for my client's 40 user system and Accuterm was $1,000 for 50 seats. The best IBM would do is a 5% discount. Considering the immense support that I've personally received from Peter Schellenbach and the wonderful features of Accuterm, compared to the stoic corporate stonewall from IBM it was more of a no brainer. Perhaps if you're remembering Accuterm only as a terminal emulator then that's not fair to accuterm. The WED program editor is the best I've seen in my 3 decades of MV programming and the GED environment allows VB-looking forms to work directly with the MV database without any ODBC or other middleware. Plus, there's a whole boatload of VB-Scripting capabilities that make every PC and network resource available to a MV program. As an emulator, accuterm can have multiple sessions in split windows, bridge copy/paste between different systems, copy/paste to MS apps, detect PC elements like last window opened etc plus all the expected keyboard mapping, emulations and other emulator stuff. For us programmers, WED is worth the price of admission by itself. Words cannot fully describe how wonderful editing MV programs with a notepad editor that understands MV concepts as compared to just using notepad. My 2 cents for Accuterm. Mark Johnson - Original Message - From: Symeon Breen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 3:43 PM Subject: Re: [OT][U2] Wintegrate No No No- Wintegrate wins against Accuterm any day . On 14/12/06, Mark Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you must get wintegrate, it should still be available from IBM. I would strongly go with Accuterm as it wins hands down on many comparisons. Unless your apps are married to wintegrate's gui components. Accuterm's GUI designer is huge. 2 of my clients have dictated that all new programs are done with it and it works perfectly side by side in a green screen environment. Best of all, Accuterm is $1,000 for 50 licenses versus $225 each from IBM. You do the math. My 1,000 cents Mark Johnson - Original Message - From: Nick Cipollina [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 11:47 AM Subject: [OT][U2] Wintegrate Does anyone know where I can get a copy of Wintegrate? Thanks, Nick Cipollina MCTS, MCP ACS Heritage, Inc. 2810 North Parham Road, Suite 210 Richmond, VA 23294 (804) 965-8294 --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] UniVerse Personal Edition
It can be done - I once imported a huge corrupted file for investigation and was able to resize it. Francis - Original Message - From: Brian Leach [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 3:38 AM Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Personal Edition You would need to think about how to restore data over 10,007 mod as uvrestore won't create the file and you can't open the file to resize it on the PE version either. Brian -Original Message- From: Francis Bennett[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13/12/06 01:15:43 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.orgu2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Personal Edition My version 10.0.4 has maximum modulo 10,007 Francis - Original Message - From: jpb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 9:51 AM Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Personal Edition Yes I think there is a modulo limit of 1000. Jerry And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are the gift of God? -Thomas Jefferson - Original Message - From: Brutzman, Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 5:19 PM Subject: RE: [U2] UniVerse Personal Edition [Message truncated. Tap Edit-Mark for Download to get remaining portion.] --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [OT][U2] Wintegrate
Mark: The usual rule for technologists is we want what we want because someone else is paying for it. The usual rule for business people is we want what works as long as it's cost effective (or cheap). :-) The cost difference isn't really fair for a side-by-side comparison of the benefits of the products. To me the cost is of paramount importance because whatever wIntegrate has that AccuTerm doesn't have can't possibly justify wIntegrate costing $11,250 for a 50 user operation vs $1,000 for AccuTerm when I'm paying for it. It's like U2 costing $75,000 for a 100 user license while DB2 or SQL Server costs $5,000 - $7,500 for an unlimited single CPU license. It makes it hard to compete. Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Johnson Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 2:45 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [OT][U2] Wintegrate I'm all ears. I've been using Wintegrate for 10 years (most recent is W98) and was Pro-Wintegrate up until 2 years ago when a client wanted to get out from under VE-Client (that's another disaster). I wrote up my side of the story and another consultant posted his side about Accuterm 2K2 (The latest). Side, by side things were equal until we got to WED, GED and, best of all (although no flames for being only price conscious), the price. IBM wanted $225 per seat for my client's 40 user system and Accuterm was $1,000 for 50 seats. The best IBM would do is a 5% discount. Considering the immense support that I've personally received from Peter Schellenbach and the wonderful features of Accuterm, compared to the stoic corporate stonewall from IBM it was more of a no brainer. Perhaps if you're remembering Accuterm only as a terminal emulator then that's not fair to accuterm. The WED program editor is the best I've seen in my 3 decades of MV programming and the GED environment allows VB-looking forms to work directly with the MV database without any ODBC or other middleware. Plus, there's a whole boatload of VB-Scripting capabilities that make every PC and network resource available to a MV program. As an emulator, accuterm can have multiple sessions in split windows, bridge copy/paste between different systems, copy/paste to MS apps, detect PC elements like last window opened etc plus all the expected keyboard mapping, emulations and other emulator stuff. For us programmers, WED is worth the price of admission by itself. Words cannot fully describe how wonderful editing MV programs with a notepad editor that understands MV concepts as compared to just using notepad. My 2 cents for Accuterm. Mark Johnson - Original Message - From: Symeon Breen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 3:43 PM Subject: Re: [OT][U2] Wintegrate No No No- Wintegrate wins against Accuterm any day . On 14/12/06, Mark Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you must get wintegrate, it should still be available from IBM. I would strongly go with Accuterm as it wins hands down on many comparisons. Unless your apps are married to wintegrate's gui components. Accuterm's GUI designer is huge. 2 of my clients have dictated that all new programs are done with it and it works perfectly side by side in a green screen environment. Best of all, Accuterm is $1,000 for 50 licenses versus $225 each from IBM. You do the math. My 1,000 cents Mark Johnson - Original Message - From: Nick Cipollina [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 11:47 AM Subject: [OT][U2] Wintegrate Does anyone know where I can get a copy of Wintegrate? Thanks, Nick Cipollina MCTS, MCP ACS Heritage, Inc. 2810 North Parham Road, Suite 210 Richmond, VA 23294 (804) 965-8294 --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Managing open files
Susan On Unix at least you can use the fuser -u filename command. e.g. find dir_path -exec fuser -u {} \;/work/pidlog The pidlog file will contain an entry for every file and each file will have the list of PIDs that have the file open. You can use the text file to collate a counted total of files open by each process. The PID then relates to the UV (or UDT) process in the usual way. The usual culprits for too many files if you have kept an eye on the kernel 9MFILES/MAXFILES/maximum inodes etc) and udtconfig are: 1. Failing to close O/S level files (OPENSEQ etc or file handles for API calls (e.g. socket)) 2. Program recursion via EXECUTEs or similar 3. (not in your case) setting the maximum number of files 240 or thereabouts on Sun. (Solaris has a hard upper limit of 256 file handles for a 32-bit application. 4. GCI//CALLC functions leaking memory handles 5. Message queues take file handles too Take a look at the output from kp and match it against the kernel and your udtconfig (post them if you want and we can look): /etc/system kp output udtconfig Hope some of this helps. Regards JayJay -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Joslyn Sent: 13 December 2006 15:30 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Managing open files Greetings group, I have a problem at a new installation of PRC on a Unidata/Windows system. There are a couple of occasions where I get an announcement that too many files are open, and my program bombs. I think it's the combination of files that the application software has open as well as the ones I have open at that moment, plus SB+. The most helpful thing for me would be some function that will tell me at any given time how many files I have open and what files they are. I can't find anything like that. I have ways that I can determine what files I have open, and SB+ keeps a list of the ones it has open. But I don't know what the limit is. I guess I'm going to have to take the known places where this is occurring (as they occur) and close all of my files that I don't need and hope it's enough. Anyone know of anything that will help me solve this problem? All advice appreciated! Cheers, Susan Joslyn p.s. I'm a digest subscriber so I'll either see responses later (which is fine, I'm in no hurry) or you can copy me directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you like. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
[U2] RE: IBM PartnerWorld Gets Big Praise - off-list
Chuck wrote: We'll had a lot of discussion here about IBM's quality of communication with all of us. I thought this piece from the eWeek Channel Insider was worth repeating here: An independent study of Vendor ISV programs put IBM's Partner World Industry Networks atop a list of the top 10, besting rival Microsoft and others in metrics measuring technical, sales and marketing enablement. Full story at: http://www.channelinsider.com/article/IBM+Tops+IDC+ISV+Program+Study+Micros oft+SAP+Follow/196198_1.aspx?kc=CITCIEMNL121306EOAD That article does nothing to address a point that I've been making for years. There's no doubt that IBM 1) takes care of its reseller channel, and 2) has shown a great deal of interest in the U2 products. But as an observer with no business relationship directly with IBM, I have never seen IBM include their U2 resellers in their ISV efforts as they do with their DB2 channel. Am I simply uninformed? Does IBM _ever_ include U2 developers in their education, promotions, DeveloperWorks efforts, or any other initiatives which serve to promote and profile their value-add resellers? It seems to me that U2 is still the unmentioned stepchild while those VARs who have come in by birth or adoption have been given all of the praise and support that IBM can muster. In the time that IBM has owned U2 and held it back from inclusion with its mainstream offerings (and commensurate benefits to the reseller channel), two companies have come out of the blue to offer completely new solutions: - LadyBridge offers a low-cost prime-derivative. If IBM doesn't acknowledge U2 in public, the marketing benefits of doing business with a large company like IBM aren't worth the high cost of the DBMS licensing, and many sites might find more marketability in lower-cost alternatives like QM. - InterSystems has developed MV Cache' from scratch and is now treating this offering as a first-class citizen with its primary Cache' database environment. Consider what this massive marketing machine is doing for its reseller channel, and compare that to the invisibility that IBM offers its U2 channel. Again, I welcome someone to tell me how uninformed I am, how IBM _does_ include U2 apps and information about the MV model in its offerings to mainstream prospects, and how IBM does offer training, marketing assistance, and other support services to their U2 channel. I don't want to sound overly critical because I do appreciate what IBM (specifically U2 management) has done for this market. But along with the Big Praise IBM gets for the initiative called PartnerWorld, I think it's important to re-emphasize that their world doesn't yet seem to include this vibrant (and apparently profitable) U2 market. Tony Gravagno Nebula Research and Development TG@ removethispartNebula-RnD.com Note Outlook users: I've updated my free macros with more U2-specific filters: http:// removethisNebula-RnD.com/blog/general/2006/11/outlooksubjects1.html --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/