Re: [OT][U2] Wintegrate

2006-12-14 Thread Mark Johnson
If you must get wintegrate, it should still be available from IBM.

I would strongly go with Accuterm as it wins hands down on many comparisons.
Unless your apps are married to wintegrate's gui components.

Accuterm's GUI designer is huge. 2 of my clients have dictated that all new
programs are done with it and it works perfectly side by side in a green
screen environment.

Best of all, Accuterm is $1,000 for 50 licenses versus $225 each from IBM.
You do the math.

My 1,000 cents
Mark Johnson
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 Does anyone know where I can get a copy of Wintegrate?

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Re: [OT][U2] Wintegrate

2006-12-14 Thread vance . alspach
Have you checked into Dynamic Connect?  It is the default supplied with 
Unidata/Universe PE version.

Vance Alspach




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If you must get wintegrate, it should still be available from IBM.

I would strongly go with Accuterm as it wins hands down on many 
comparisons.
Unless your apps are married to wintegrate's gui components.

Accuterm's GUI designer is huge. 2 of my clients have dictated that all 
new
programs are done with it and it works perfectly side by side in a green
screen environment.

Best of all, Accuterm is $1,000 for 50 licenses versus $225 each from IBM.
You do the math.

My 1,000 cents
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RE: [OT][U2] Wintegrate

2006-12-14 Thread Nick Cipollina
I want wIntegrate because of the tie-in to unidebugger, which can then
be tied into PRC which we are going to be purchasing soon.

Thanks,
 
Nick Cipollina
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Have you checked into Dynamic Connect?  It is the default supplied with 
Unidata/Universe PE version.

Vance Alspach




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If you must get wintegrate, it should still be available from IBM.

I would strongly go with Accuterm as it wins hands down on many 
comparisons.
Unless your apps are married to wintegrate's gui components.

Accuterm's GUI designer is huge. 2 of my clients have dictated that all 
new
programs are done with it and it works perfectly side by side in a green
screen environment.

Best of all, Accuterm is $1,000 for 50 licenses versus $225 each from
IBM.
You do the math.

My 1,000 cents
Mark Johnson



 Does anyone know where I can get a copy of Wintegrate?

 Thanks,

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Re: [OT][U2] Wintegrate

2006-12-14 Thread Symeon Breen
No No No- Wintegrate wins against Accuterm any day .

On 14/12/06, Mark Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you must get wintegrate, it should still be available from IBM.

 I would strongly go with Accuterm as it wins hands down on many
 comparisons.
 Unless your apps are married to wintegrate's gui components.

 Accuterm's GUI designer is huge. 2 of my clients have dictated that all
 new
 programs are done with it and it works perfectly side by side in a green
 screen environment.

 Best of all, Accuterm is $1,000 for 50 licenses versus $225 each from IBM.
 You do the math.

 My 1,000 cents
 Mark Johnson
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 Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 11:47 AM
 Subject: [OT][U2] Wintegrate


  Does anyone know where I can get a copy of Wintegrate?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Nick Cipollina
 
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  Richmond, VA 23294
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RE: [OT][U2] Wintegrate

2006-12-14 Thread colin.alfke
Strange. You actually need to install Dynamic Connect to use
UniDebugger.  With Wintgrate you may not need to, but it seems to be a
bit of overkill just for UniDebugger.

I'd make sure that Dynamic Connect won't work for you before buying
Wintegrate. If you already have then please disregard

Hth
Colin Alfke
Calgary Canada

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I want wIntegrate because of the tie-in to unidebugger, which 
can then be tied into PRC which we are going to be purchasing soon.

Thanks,
 
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Re: [OT][U2] Wintegrate

2006-12-14 Thread jpb
If I remember correctly Dynamic Connect is a dumbed down version of 
Wintegrate.
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Strange. You actually need to install Dynamic Connect to use
UniDebugger.  With Wintgrate you may not need to, but it seems to be a
bit of overkill just for UniDebugger.

I'd make sure that Dynamic Connect won't work for you before buying
Wintegrate. If you already have then please disregard

Hth
Colin Alfke
Calgary Canada


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I want wIntegrate because of the tie-in to unidebugger, which
can then be tied into PRC which we are going to be purchasing soon.

Thanks,

Nick Cipollina

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RE: [OT][U2] Wintegrate

2006-12-14 Thread David Jordan
When you install unidebugger, it first looks for Wintegrate and if that's
not available it sets up to work with dynamic connect.   However if
afterwards wintegrate is uninstalled or a demo versio has expired, then
unidebugger will not start with an error message related to wintegrate.  If
you uninstall and reinstall the unidebugger without wintegrate on the
client, it wil work with dynamic connect.

Regards

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Re: [OT][U2] Wintegrate

2006-12-14 Thread Mark Johnson
I'm all ears. I've been using Wintegrate for 10 years (most recent is W98)
and was Pro-Wintegrate up until 2 years ago when a client wanted to get out
from under VE-Client (that's another disaster).

I wrote up my side of the story and another consultant posted his side about
Accuterm 2K2 (The latest). Side, by side things were equal until we got to
WED, GED and, best of all (although no flames for being only price
conscious), the price. IBM wanted $225 per seat for my client's 40 user
system and Accuterm was $1,000 for 50 seats. The best IBM would do is a 5%
discount.

Considering the immense support that I've personally received from Peter
Schellenbach and the wonderful features of Accuterm, compared to the stoic
corporate stonewall from IBM it was more of a no brainer.

Perhaps if you're remembering Accuterm only as a terminal emulator then
that's not fair to accuterm. The WED program editor is the best I've seen in
my 3 decades of MV programming and the GED environment allows VB-looking
forms to work directly with the MV database without any ODBC or other
middleware. Plus, there's a whole boatload of VB-Scripting capabilities that
make every PC and network resource available to a MV program.

As an emulator, accuterm can have multiple sessions in split windows, bridge
copy/paste between different systems, copy/paste to MS apps, detect PC
elements like last window opened etc plus all the expected keyboard mapping,
emulations and other emulator stuff.

For us programmers, WED is worth the price of admission by itself. Words
cannot fully describe how wonderful editing MV programs with a notepad
editor that understands MV concepts as compared to just using notepad.

My 2 cents for Accuterm.
Mark Johnson

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From: Symeon Breen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 3:43 PM
Subject: Re: [OT][U2] Wintegrate


 No No No- Wintegrate wins against Accuterm any day .

 On 14/12/06, Mark Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  If you must get wintegrate, it should still be available from IBM.
 
  I would strongly go with Accuterm as it wins hands down on many
  comparisons.
  Unless your apps are married to wintegrate's gui components.
 
  Accuterm's GUI designer is huge. 2 of my clients have dictated that all
  new
  programs are done with it and it works perfectly side by side in a green
  screen environment.
 
  Best of all, Accuterm is $1,000 for 50 licenses versus $225 each from
IBM.
  You do the math.
 
  My 1,000 cents
  Mark Johnson
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  To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
  Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 11:47 AM
  Subject: [OT][U2] Wintegrate
 
 
   Does anyone know where I can get a copy of Wintegrate?
  
   Thanks,
  
   Nick Cipollina
  
   MCTS, MCP
   ACS Heritage, Inc.
   2810 North Parham Road, Suite 210
   Richmond, VA 23294
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Re: [U2] UniVerse Personal Edition

2006-12-14 Thread Francis Bennett
It can be done - I once imported a huge corrupted file for investigation and
was able to resize it.

Francis

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 You would need to think about how to restore data over 10,007 mod as
uvrestore won't create the file and you can't open the file to resize it on
the PE version either.

 Brian

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 My version 10.0.4 has maximum modulo 10,007

 Francis

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  Yes I think there is a modulo limit of 1000.
  Jerry
 
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removed
  their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that
these
  liberties are the gift of God?
 
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RE: [OT][U2] Wintegrate

2006-12-14 Thread Bill Haskett
Mark:

The usual rule for technologists is we want what we want because someone
else is paying for it.  The usual rule for business people is we want what
works as long as it's cost effective (or cheap).  :-)

The cost difference isn't really fair for a side-by-side comparison of the
benefits of the products.

To me the cost is of paramount importance because whatever wIntegrate has
that AccuTerm doesn't have can't possibly justify wIntegrate costing $11,250
for a 50 user operation vs $1,000 for AccuTerm when I'm paying for it.  It's
like U2 costing $75,000 for a 100 user license while DB2 or SQL Server costs
$5,000 - $7,500 for an unlimited single CPU license.  It makes it hard to
compete.

Bill

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Subject: Re: [OT][U2] Wintegrate

I'm all ears. I've been using Wintegrate for 10 years (most recent is W98)
and was Pro-Wintegrate up until 2 years ago when a client wanted to get out
from under VE-Client (that's another disaster).

I wrote up my side of the story and another consultant posted his side about
Accuterm 2K2 (The latest). Side, by side things were equal until we got to
WED, GED and, best of all (although no flames for being only price
conscious), the price. IBM wanted $225 per seat for my client's 40 user
system and Accuterm was $1,000 for 50 seats. The best IBM would do is a 5%
discount.

Considering the immense support that I've personally received from Peter
Schellenbach and the wonderful features of Accuterm, compared to the stoic
corporate stonewall from IBM it was more of a no brainer.

Perhaps if you're remembering Accuterm only as a terminal emulator then
that's not fair to accuterm. The WED program editor is the best I've seen in
my 3 decades of MV programming and the GED environment allows VB-looking
forms to work directly with the MV database without any ODBC or other
middleware. Plus, there's a whole boatload of VB-Scripting capabilities that
make every PC and network resource available to a MV program.

As an emulator, accuterm can have multiple sessions in split windows, bridge
copy/paste between different systems, copy/paste to MS apps, detect PC
elements like last window opened etc plus all the expected keyboard mapping,
emulations and other emulator stuff.

For us programmers, WED is worth the price of admission by itself. Words
cannot fully describe how wonderful editing MV programs with a notepad
editor that understands MV concepts as compared to just using notepad.

My 2 cents for Accuterm.
Mark Johnson

- Original Message -
From: Symeon Breen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 3:43 PM
Subject: Re: [OT][U2] Wintegrate


 No No No- Wintegrate wins against Accuterm any day .

 On 14/12/06, Mark Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  If you must get wintegrate, it should still be available from IBM.
 
  I would strongly go with Accuterm as it wins hands down on many
  comparisons.
  Unless your apps are married to wintegrate's gui components.
 
  Accuterm's GUI designer is huge. 2 of my clients have dictated that all
  new
  programs are done with it and it works perfectly side by side in a green
  screen environment.
 
  Best of all, Accuterm is $1,000 for 50 licenses versus $225 each from
IBM.
  You do the math.
 
  My 1,000 cents
  Mark Johnson
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  To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
  Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 11:47 AM
  Subject: [OT][U2] Wintegrate
 
 
   Does anyone know where I can get a copy of Wintegrate?
  
   Thanks,
  
   Nick Cipollina
  
   MCTS, MCP
   ACS Heritage, Inc.
   2810 North Parham Road, Suite 210
   Richmond, VA 23294
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RE: [U2] Managing open files

2006-12-14 Thread John Jenkins
Susan

On Unix at least you can use the fuser -u filename command.

e.g. 
find dir_path -exec fuser -u {} \;/work/pidlog

The pidlog file will contain an entry for every file and each file will have
the list of PIDs that have the file open. You can use the text file to
collate a counted total of files open by each process. The PID then relates
to the UV (or UDT) process in the usual way.

The usual culprits for too many files if you have kept an eye on the
kernel 9MFILES/MAXFILES/maximum inodes etc) and udtconfig are:

1. Failing to close O/S level files (OPENSEQ etc or file handles for API
calls (e.g. socket))

2. Program recursion via EXECUTEs or similar

3. (not in your case) setting the maximum number of files  240 or
thereabouts on Sun. (Solaris has a hard upper limit of 256 file handles for
a 32-bit application.

4. GCI//CALLC functions leaking memory handles

5. Message queues take file handles too

Take a look at the output from kp and match it against the kernel and your
udtconfig (post them if you want and we can look): 

/etc/system
kp output
udtconfig

Hope some of this helps.

Regards

JayJay

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Subject: [U2] Managing open files

Greetings group,

I have a problem at a new installation of PRC on a Unidata/Windows system.
There are a couple of occasions where I get an announcement that too many
files are open, and my program bombs.  I think it's the combination of
files that the application software has open as well as the ones I have open
at that moment, plus SB+.

The most helpful thing for me would be some function that will tell me at
any given time how many files I have open and what files they are.  I can't
find anything like that.  I have ways that I can determine what files I have
open, and SB+ keeps a list of the ones it has open.  But I don't know what
the limit is.

I guess I'm going to have to take the known places where this is occurring
(as they occur) and close all of my files that I don't need and hope it's
enough.

Anyone know of anything that will help me solve this problem?  All advice
appreciated!  

Cheers,
Susan Joslyn
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[U2] RE: IBM PartnerWorld Gets Big Praise - off-list

2006-12-14 Thread Tony Gravagno
Chuck wrote:
  We'll had a lot of discussion here about IBM's quality of
 communication with all of us. I thought this piece from the eWeek
 Channel Insider was worth repeating here:
 
 An independent study of Vendor ISV programs put IBM's Partner World
 Industry Networks atop a list of the top 10, besting rival Microsoft
 and others in metrics measuring technical, sales and marketing
 enablement. Full story at:
 

http://www.channelinsider.com/article/IBM+Tops+IDC+ISV+Program+Study+Micros
oft+SAP+Follow/196198_1.aspx?kc=CITCIEMNL121306EOAD

That article does nothing to address a point that I've been making for
years.  There's no doubt that IBM 1) takes care of its reseller channel,
and 2) has shown a great deal of interest in the U2 products.  But as an
observer with no business relationship directly with IBM, I have never seen
IBM include their U2 resellers in their ISV efforts as they do with their
DB2 channel.  Am I simply uninformed?  Does IBM _ever_ include U2
developers in their education, promotions, DeveloperWorks efforts, or any
other initiatives which serve to promote and profile their value-add
resellers?  It seems to me that U2 is still the unmentioned stepchild while
those VARs who have come in by birth or adoption have been given all of
the praise and support that IBM can muster.

In the time that IBM has owned U2 and held it back from inclusion with its
mainstream offerings (and commensurate benefits to the reseller channel),
two companies have come out of the blue to offer completely new solutions:
- LadyBridge offers a low-cost prime-derivative.  If IBM doesn't
acknowledge U2 in public, the marketing benefits of doing business with a
large company like IBM aren't worth the high cost of the DBMS licensing,
and many sites might find more marketability in lower-cost alternatives
like QM.
- InterSystems has developed MV Cache' from scratch and is now treating
this offering as a first-class citizen with its primary Cache' database
environment.  Consider what this massive marketing machine is doing for its
reseller channel, and compare that to the invisibility that IBM offers its
U2 channel.

Again, I welcome someone to tell me how uninformed I am, how IBM _does_
include U2 apps and information about the MV model in its offerings to
mainstream prospects, and how IBM does offer training, marketing
assistance, and other support services to their U2 channel.  I don't want
to sound overly critical because I do appreciate what IBM (specifically U2
management) has done for this market.  But along with the Big Praise IBM
gets for the initiative called PartnerWorld, I think it's important to
re-emphasize that their world doesn't yet seem to include this vibrant (and
apparently profitable) U2 market.

Tony Gravagno
Nebula Research and Development
TG@ removethispartNebula-RnD.com

Note Outlook users: I've updated my free macros with more U2-specific
filters:
http://
removethisNebula-RnD.com/blog/general/2006/11/outlooksubjects1.html
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