[U2] Microdata Conversion
To All: The day is finally approaching. One of my Microdata clients is now wanting to switch to a contemporary platform. Because of being a Microdata, I have a fork in the road: 1) Do I pursue a system that can run in Microdata Flavor, ie Unidata or 2) do I endeavour on the path of either programatically or manually changing the true-PQN procs to more traditional PQ procs to end up on a D3 system. Also, I recall one of my other clients having switched from MCD to UD before me and there must have been a dictionary converter to go from the 10 line items to the 7 line items. That converter put the original 10 line dict (attributed) on line 10 of the new dict item, replacing @am with @vm's. I would like to gather opinions from anyone who has done such a conversion as well as from VAR's that could facilitate either the specific sale and/or the conversion. You may contact me directly at m.john...@jaydeetrucking.com Thanks Mark Johnson ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Microdata Conversion
It's been a long time since I did one of these, but UniData has a conversion tool to switch DICTs. It's pretty good, but as always, you need to verify. John Israel Senior Programmer/Analyst Dayton Superior Corporation 721 Richard St. Miamisburg, OH 45342 937-866-0711 x44380 -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of MAJ Programming Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 10:10 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Microdata Conversion To All: The day is finally approaching. One of my Microdata clients is now wanting to switch to a contemporary platform. Because of being a Microdata, I have a fork in the road: 1) Do I pursue a system that can run in Microdata Flavor, ie Unidata or 2) do I endeavour on the path of either programatically or manually changing the true-PQN procs to more traditional PQ procs to end up on a D3 system. Also, I recall one of my other clients having switched from MCD to UD before me and there must have been a dictionary converter to go from the 10 line items to the 7 line items. That converter put the original 10 line dict (attributed) on line 10 of the new dict item, replacing @am with @vm's. I would like to gather opinions from anyone who has done such a conversion as well as from VAR's that could facilitate either the specific sale and/or the conversion. You may contact me directly at m.john...@jaydeetrucking.com Thanks Mark Johnson ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Microdata Conversion
Hi, we did Reality to Universe years ago. The reality flavour supports PQN and 10 item dicts, and most of the nice reality features. Les Sherlock Hewkin Project Manager Group Financial Systems I.T. Department Ryehill House Ryehill Close, Lodge Way Industrial Estate, Northampton. NN5 7UA T 01604 592289 M 07917 856195 -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of MAJ Programming Sent: 03 November 2009 15:10 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Microdata Conversion To All: The day is finally approaching. One of my Microdata clients is now wanting to switch to a contemporary platform. Because of being a Microdata, I have a fork in the road: 1) Do I pursue a system that can run in Microdata Flavor, ie Unidata or 2) do I endeavour on the path of either programatically or manually changing the true-PQN procs to more traditional PQ procs to end up on a D3 system. Also, I recall one of my other clients having switched from MCD to UD before me and there must have been a dictionary converter to go from the 10 line items to the 7 line items. That converter put the original 10 line dict (attributed) on line 10 of the new dict item, replacing @am with @vm's. I would like to gather opinions from anyone who has done such a conversion as well as from VAR's that could facilitate either the specific sale and/or the conversion. You may contact me directly at m.john...@jaydeetrucking.com Thanks Mark Johnson ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users html head meta http-equiv=Content-type content=text/html; charset=UTF-8 /head body P style=MARGIN-TOP: 0pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0ptSPAN style=FONT-SIZE: 8.2pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'MS Sans Serif'This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and intended solely for the use of the addressee only. If you have received this message in error, you must not copy, distribute or disclose the contents; please notify the sender immediately and delete the message. /SPAN/P P style=MARGIN-TOP: 0pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0ptSPAN style=FONT-SIZE: 8.2pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'MS Sans Serif'This message is attributed to the sender and may not necessarily reflect the view of Travis Perkins plc or its subsidiaries (Travis Perkins). Agreements binding Travis Perkins may not be concluded by means of e-mail communication. /SPAN/P P style=MARGIN-TOP: 0pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0ptSPAN style=FONT-SIZE: 8.2pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'MS Sans Serif'E-mail transmissions are not secure and Travis Perkins accepts no responsibility for changes made to this message after it was sent. Whilst steps have been taken to ensure that this message is virus free, Travis Perkins accepts no liability for infection and recommends that you scan this e-mail and any attachments. /SPAN/P P style=MARGIN-TOP: 0pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0ptSPAN style=FONT-SIZE: 8.2pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'MS Sans Serif'Part of Travis Perkins plc. Registered Office: Lodge Way House, Lodge Way, Harlestone Road, Northampton, NN5 7UG. /SPAN/P /BODY /HTML ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Microdata Conversion
Basically, the road ahead is wide open and the future is bright. I've heard good things about Reality. They seem to be making a comeback. That would be an easy move. jbase has a reality emulation and was written by microdata people. Both universe and unidata have reality/microdata flavors. Cache has a Reality emulation, and Reality applications migrate to it easily. I'm biased, but you should really look at Cache. With all those options, there's no reason to consider D3 if you rely on PQN procs. mvBase does a form of PQN proc, but I don't know how compatable it is. From the documentation, it looks like it's all there. On Nov 3, 2009, at 10:09 AM, MAJ Programming wrote: To All: The day is finally approaching. One of my Microdata clients is now wanting to switch to a contemporary platform. Because of being a Microdata, I have a fork in the road: 1) Do I pursue a system that can run in Microdata Flavor, ie Unidata or 2) do I endeavour on the path of either programatically or manually changing the true-PQN procs to more traditional PQ procs to end up on a D3 system. Also, I recall one of my other clients having switched from MCD to UD before me and there must have been a dictionary converter to go from the 10 line items to the 7 line items. That converter put the original 10 line dict (attributed) on line 10 of the new dict item, replacing @am with @vm's. I would like to gather opinions from anyone who has done such a conversion as well as from VAR's that could facilitate either the specific sale and/or the conversion. You may contact me directly at m.john...@jaydeetrucking.com Thanks Mark Johnson ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Microdata Conversion
From: Ed Clark With all those options, there's no reason to consider D3 if you rely on PQN procs. I'll agree with all of Ed's other comments - except that one. You can get RPL for D3, which is essentially compiled PQN. All of your F-OPEN, F-READ, and /!/%/# buffers are there, plus more. So D3 is as much on the table as any other platform. I don't think anyone has mentioned QM yet, but I believe there is strong support for PQN there as well. One of my clients, a regular here, took several months to migrate dicts from Pick-style A/S correlatives to Unidata. Major pain. Of all of the platforms available, I'd think Unidata is the most difficult for migration of a really full-featured app. Reality probably supports Microdata better than anyone - including full PQN support. Unless you feel compelled to move from a Pick-based platform to a Prime-based platform with support for Pick flavors, there's really no need to go that route. Bottom line is that you can go anywhere you want with relative equal pain or lack thereof. Given that technically most of the options are equivalent, my inclination would be to go with the strongest vendor, best product support, best options for the future, etc. HTH Tony Gravagno Nebula Research and Development TG@ remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com Nebula RD sells mv.NET and other Pick/MultiValue products worldwide, and provides related development services remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com/blog Visit PickWiki.com! Contribute! NEW: Follow TonyGravagno on Twitter ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Microdata Conversion
Mark, How tightly is spooler manipulation integrated into the application? I'm wondering if compatibility will affect your decision. Aren't there some significant differences amongst the various choices? Russ Watson Asynchron Systems Inc. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of MAJ Programming Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 10:10 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Microdata Conversion To All: The day is finally approaching. One of my Microdata clients is now wanting to switch to a contemporary platform. Because of being a Microdata, I have a fork in the road: 1) Do I pursue a system that can run in Microdata Flavor, ie Unidata or 2) do I endeavour on the path of either programatically or manually changing the true-PQN procs to more traditional PQ procs to end up on a D3 system. Also, I recall one of my other clients having switched from MCD to UD before me and there must have been a dictionary converter to go from the 10 line items to the 7 line items. That converter put the original 10 line dict (attributed) on line 10 of the new dict item, replacing @am with @vm's. I would like to gather opinions from anyone who has done such a conversion as well as from VAR's that could facilitate either the specific sale and/or the conversion. You may contact me directly at m.john...@jaydeetrucking.com Thanks Mark Johnson ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] u2ug website down
Jeff Kicked, thanks! (Why do these things NEVER happen when I'm IN the office...) Brian On 03 November 2009 at 21:22 Jeff Butera jbut...@hampshire.edu wrote: Can anyone kick the tires on the u2ug website: mvScript Error The following error has been reported 1006þNo active connections available at this time Jeff Butera, Ph.D. Administrative Systems Hampshire College jbut...@hampshire.edu 413-559-5556 I'm just having a conversation with myself - it's about that time. Catherine Butera ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
[U2] unidata err
Unidata 7.1.x on Windows 2003. When trying to access AE, we get the following: can't get to msgq in U_tosbcs I found one limited email thread from 2005 on this, but the solution (correcting CTLGTB VOC pointer) was already addressed. Any ideas? Jeff Butera, Ph.D. Administrative Systems Hampshire College jbut...@hampshire.edu 413-559-5556 I'm just having a conversation with myself - it's about that time. Catherine Butera ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] unidata err
I don't think I've ever seen that reported on Windows. Typically - the sbcs daemon (Shared Basic Code Server) is not running. On Windows, literally sbcs.exe. It could also indicate a problem with Windows memory mapped files - that we've used to mimic UNIX shared memory as well as message queues. AE is a globally cataloged UniBasic program. Your udt process is trying to send a message to the sbcs daemon asking that AE be loaded into shared memory (or confirmed to already be loaded) and then send back the address of the object so it can be run. 'to msgq' refers to the sbcs request queue (sbcs listens on this queue for requests from udt processes). There is also an sbcs reply queue that udt processes listen on for responses from sbcs. Regards, Wally Terhune U2 Support Architect Rocket Software 4700 S. Syracuse Street, Suite 400 **Denver, CO 80237 **USA Tel: +1.720.475.8055 Email: wterh...@rs.com Web: www.rocketsoftware.com/u2 -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Butera Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 9:03 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] unidata err Unidata 7.1.x on Windows 2003. When trying to access AE, we get the following: can't get to msgq in U_tosbcs I found one limited email thread from 2005 on this, but the solution (correcting CTLGTB VOC pointer) was already addressed. Any ideas? Jeff Butera, Ph.D. Administrative Systems Hampshire College jbut...@hampshire.edu 413-559-5556 I'm just having a conversation with myself - it's about that time. Catherine Butera ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
