Re: [U2] WORKING WITH PROMPTS
Jim, You don't say, so I'm going to assume UniVerse here. Yes, there are two ways you can do this in BASIC. EXECUTE creates a new workspace, so you need to either change to using PERFORM (which doesn't) or pass the prompt answers into that workspace. Here are the two syntaxes. Given the following test program: PROGRAM testWithPrompts Crt 'Enter something : ': Input Something Crt 'And something else : ': Input SomethingElse Crt 'You entered ':Something: ' ' : SomethingElse Crt That's All Folks STOP 1. Using DATA with Perform: DATA Hello DATA World PERFORM testWithPrompts STOP 2. Redirecting input to the new workspace: Prompts = 'Hello' : @FM :'World' Execute 'testWithPrompts', IN. Prompts STOP Result: RUN test.bp testPrompts Enter something : And something else : You entered Hello World That's All Folks Brian -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of James Patrick Volkman Sent: 13 May 2010 6:13 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] WORKING WITH PROMPTS I'd like to start off by saying I'm not a programmer. I'm trying to automate the running of a terminal program using the EXECUTE command in BASIC. When the program initiates a prompt comes up. I want to gain control of the prompt and send keys to the terminal. Is there a means in BASIC to gain control of the Prompt the way you would using WinActivate? I use a scripting language that allows you to send keys to the terminal using TERMKEY. Is there a way to do this in BASIC? I don't want to use Sendkeys because of the risk involved. This doesn't work. DATA Y DATA N EXECUTE PROGRAM Jim Volkman San Rafael, CA http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamesvolkman ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2868 - Release Date: 05/11/10 19:40:00 ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
[U2] [UD] Running out of LCTs
Hello all. I'm running a batch job which after a number of iterations fails with a 'no more LCTs' error. I'm able to track the memory usage with sms -L process number and I can see the number in the Memory Info section moving slowly up from 2 or 3 up to 31 as the batch job runs. I know I could increase the number of slots available but I'd rather understand how I can change the batch routine to stop it using all these lcts in the first place. Each iteration calls through to a set of (large) routines that do file opens, reads, writes and a bunch of business logic - nothing really outside of what generic 'pick' code would do though. It's not accumulating the results of each iteration in memory (at least not in a significant way) - any output is written to disk. So can anyone suggest what, specifically, causes LCTs to be used up? Are there any tools I can use to tell what's in them? (My current theory is file opens that are not balanced by a close - but we have loads of other batch routines that process many thousands of records without any problems and are generally careless about opening files each time round the loop... Thanks Ed Edward Brown Senior Analyst Civica UK Limited Tel: 01246 267918 E-mail: edward.br...@civica.co.uk mailto:david.car...@civica.co.uk Website: www.civica.co.uk http://www.civica.co.uk/ --- This e-mail and any attachment(s), is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the addressee, dissemination, copying or use of this e-mail or any of its content is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient please inform the sender immediately and destroy the e-mail, any attachment(s) and any copies. All liability for viruses is excluded to the fullest extent permitted by law. It is your responsibility to scan or otherwise check this email and any attachment(s). Unless otherwise stated (i) views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender (ii) no contract may be construed by this e-mail. Emails may be monitored and you are taken to consent to this monitoring. Civica Services Limited, Company No. 02374268; Civica UK Limited, Company No. 01628868 Both companies are registered in England and Wales and each has its registered office at 2 Burston Road, Putney, London, SW15 6AR. --- ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [UD] Running out of LCTs
'no more lcts' means udtconfig NUSERS is too small to handle all of the udt processes you want to spawn concurrently on a system. Default is 25% license - but may be insufficient if you run a lot of phantoms. Based on your sms -L review, it sounds more like you are getting 'no more entries in MI table' error. If that is the case: 1) increase SHM_LMINENTS (max is 255) and/or increase SHM_GPAGESZ (assuming the entries in the MI table are for global pages - vs self-created segments). 2) You may also need to implement an occasional GARBAGECOLLECT in your app to defrag application memory use (storage for UniBasic variable contents). More detailed discussions would be best handled by opening a support case with the U2 UK support staff (based on your email address...). Would need to see your udtconfig settings, specific output of sms -L, etc. Regards, Wally Terhune U2 Support Architect Rocket Software 4700 S. Syracuse Street, Suite 400 **Denver, CO 80237 **USA Tel: +1.720.475.8055 Email: wterh...@rs.com Web: www.rocketsoftware.com/u2 -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Edward Brown Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 7:55 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] [UD] Running out of LCTs Hello all. I'm running a batch job which after a number of iterations fails with a 'no more LCTs' error. I'm able to track the memory usage with sms -L process number and I can see the number in the Memory Info section moving slowly up from 2 or 3 up to 31 as the batch job runs. I know I could increase the number of slots available but I'd rather understand how I can change the batch routine to stop it using all these lcts in the first place. Each iteration calls through to a set of (large) routines that do file opens, reads, writes and a bunch of business logic - nothing really outside of what generic 'pick' code would do though. It's not accumulating the results of each iteration in memory (at least not in a significant way) - any output is written to disk. So can anyone suggest what, specifically, causes LCTs to be used up? Are there any tools I can use to tell what's in them? (My current theory is file opens that are not balanced by a close - but we have loads of other batch routines that process many thousands of records without any problems and are generally careless about opening files each time round the loop... Thanks Ed Edward Brown Senior Analyst Civica UK Limited Tel: 01246 267918 E-mail: edward.br...@civica.co.uk mailto:david.car...@civica.co.uk Website: www.civica.co.uk http://www.civica.co.uk/ --- This e-mail and any attachment(s), is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the addressee, dissemination, copying or use of this e-mail or any of its content is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient please inform the sender immediately and destroy the e-mail, any attachment(s) and any copies. All liability for viruses is excluded to the fullest extent permitted by law. It is your responsibility to scan or otherwise check this email and any attachment(s). Unless otherwise stated (i) views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender (ii) no contract may be construed by this e-mail. Emails may be monitored and you are taken to consent to this monitoring. Civica Services Limited, Company No. 02374268; Civica UK Limited, Company No. 01628868 Both companies are registered in England and Wales and each has its registered office at 2 Burston Road, Putney, London, SW15 6AR. --- ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [UD] Running out of LCTs
Interesting. I've added GARBAGECOLLECT as advised and memory usage seems stable now. fwiw, this is on a machine with just two sessions (out of 3) active, no phantoms or other connections. All settings are as default for a ud 7.1.2 install - at least, I've not changed them since installing. The LCT message popped up a couple of times when the batch job died although most times there was no message at all. (At least I think it was the lct message, unfortunately don't have enough back pages to prove it either way). Ed -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wally Terhune Sent: 13 May 2010 15:08 To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] [UD] Running out of LCTs 'no more lcts' means udtconfig NUSERS is too small to handle all of the udt processes you want to spawn concurrently on a system. Default is 25% license - but may be insufficient if you run a lot of phantoms. Based on your sms -L review, it sounds more like you are getting 'no more entries in MI table' error. If that is the case: 1) increase SHM_LMINENTS (max is 255) and/or increase SHM_GPAGESZ (assuming the entries in the MI table are for global pages - vs self-created segments). 2) You may also need to implement an occasional GARBAGECOLLECT in your app to defrag application memory use (storage for UniBasic variable contents). More detailed discussions would be best handled by opening a support case with the U2 UK support staff (based on your email address...). Would need to see your udtconfig settings, specific output of sms -L, etc. Regards, Wally Terhune U2 Support Architect Rocket Software 4700 S. Syracuse Street, Suite 400 **Denver, CO 80237 **USA Tel: +1.720.475.8055 Email: wterh...@rs.com Web: www.rocketsoftware.com/u2 -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Edward Brown Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 7:55 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] [UD] Running out of LCTs Hello all. I'm running a batch job which after a number of iterations fails with a 'no more LCTs' error. I'm able to track the memory usage with sms -L process number and I can see the number in the Memory Info section moving slowly up from 2 or 3 up to 31 as the batch job runs. I know I could increase the number of slots available but I'd rather understand how I can change the batch routine to stop it using all these lcts in the first place. Each iteration calls through to a set of (large) routines that do file opens, reads, writes and a bunch of business logic - nothing really outside of what generic 'pick' code would do though. It's not accumulating the results of each iteration in memory (at least not in a significant way) - any output is written to disk. So can anyone suggest what, specifically, causes LCTs to be used up? Are there any tools I can use to tell what's in them? (My current theory is file opens that are not balanced by a close - but we have loads of other batch routines that process many thousands of records without any problems and are generally careless about opening files each time round the loop... Thanks Ed Edward Brown Senior Analyst Civica UK Limited Tel: 01246 267918 E-mail: edward.br...@civica.co.uk mailto:david.car...@civica.co.uk Website: www.civica.co.uk http://www.civica.co.uk/ --- This e-mail and any attachment(s), is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the addressee, dissemination, copying or use of this e-mail or any of its content is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient please inform the sender immediately and destroy the e-mail, any attachment(s) and any copies. All liability for viruses is excluded to the fullest extent permitted by law. It is your responsibility to scan or otherwise check this email and any attachment(s). Unless otherwise stated (i) views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender (ii) no contract may be construed by this e-mail. Emails may be monitored and you are taken to consent to this monitoring. Civica Services Limited, Company No. 02374268; Civica UK Limited, Company No. 01628868 Both companies are registered in England and Wales and each has its registered office at 2 Burston Road, Putney, London, SW15 6AR. --- ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org
[U2] fnuxi problem
Hi all,
I am on a UniVerse client site trying to move an application with a vast
number of dynamic files, some indexed, from UV 10.1.18 on a Sun Solaris box
to UV 10.3.6 on a Red Hat Linux Intel box.
The data files were moved with tar and byte order conversion was done using
find . -type f -exec fnuxi {} \;
This appeared to work but, on testing the application today, it now seems
that it skipped quite a few files along the way. Given that fnuxi is
supposed to ignore files that don't need conversion, I simply ran the
process again. It hung after converting a number of files, looping at 100%
cp.
In an attempt to make this restartable, I created a shell script with each
file as a separate fnuxi command. Again, this works for a while and then
hangs. At each hang, I note the failing file, remove everything down to that
point from the script and try again. The hangs are so often that this has
become unworkable (there are about 400,000 files in the list).
Repeating the fnuxi for a failing file sometimes fails again and sometimes
works ok. I have also seen it fail with a segmentation fault.
Some of the hangs are on the data files, some are on indices. I have even
used filepeek to walk through a failing file looking for ideas about why it
hangs.
So, has anyone experienced the same problem and, far more importantly, has
anyone got a fix or an alternative suggestion of how to move this system?
Thanks.
Martin Phillips
Ladybridge Systems Ltd
17b Coldstream Lane, Hardingstone, Northampton, NN4 6DB
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[U2] XML format question
I'm importing some XML, and a question came up with the following: I'm writing a small xml extraction program to setup a dynamic array, what is the difference between putting a field inside the label vs putting the field between the tags of the label? Aren't they both a subset of the label? I always thought that if the field was a single value field, it would be quoted and inside the label, but if it could be a multivaled field, it would go between the field tags, with it's own field/tags. Result precision=addressLatitude39.931085/Latitude Longitude-77.387943/LongitudeAddress1001 N Some Rd/Address CitySomewhere/CityStatePA/StateZip15063-1404/ZipCountryUS/Country /Result Could this have formatted just as well as: Resultprecisionaddress/precisionLatitude39.931085/Latitude Longitude-77.387943/LongitudeAddress1001 N Some Rd/Address CitySomewhere/CityStatePA/StateZip19063-1404/ZipCountryUS/Country /Result or Result precision=address Latitude=39.931085 Longitude=-77.387943 Address=1001 N Some Rd City=Somewhere State=PA Zip=19063-1404 Country=US/Result George Gallen Senior Programmer/Analyst Accounting/Data Division, EDI Administrator ggal...@wyanokegroup.com ph:856.848.9005 Ext 220 The Wyanoke Group http://www.wyanokegroup.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] XML format question
George, either way will work. The by product of making xml attribute centric (fields inside the label) is that it produces smaller files (about half the size of element centric). If your producing small files that may be read by an admin, then go with element centric as it is easier to read. Otherwise attribute centric is much better for storage and transfer. Norm On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 11:06 AM, George Gallen ggal...@wyanokegroup.comwrote: I'm importing some XML, and a question came up with the following: I'm writing a small xml extraction program to setup a dynamic array, what is the difference between putting a field inside the label vs putting the field between the tags of the label? Aren't they both a subset of the label? I always thought that if the field was a single value field, it would be quoted and inside the label, but if it could be a multivaled field, it would go between the field tags, with it's own field/tags. Result precision=addressLatitude39.931085/Latitude Longitude-77.387943/LongitudeAddress1001 N Some Rd/Address CitySomewhere/CityStatePA/StateZip15063-1404/ZipCountryUS/Country /Result Could this have formatted just as well as: Resultprecisionaddress/precisionLatitude39.931085/Latitude Longitude-77.387943/LongitudeAddress1001 N Some Rd/Address CitySomewhere/CityStatePA/StateZip19063-1404/ZipCountryUS/Country /Result or Result precision=address Latitude=39.931085 Longitude=-77.387943 Address=1001 N Some Rd City=Somewhere State=PA Zip=19063-1404 Country=US/Result George Gallen Senior Programmer/Analyst Accounting/Data Division, EDI Administrator ggal...@wyanokegroup.com ph:856.848.9005 Ext 220 The Wyanoke Group http://www.wyanokegroup.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] XML format question
I'm not producing the file, I'm reading the file and was trying to figure out why some of the field were inside the result label, and others were between the result /result tags. I was trying to setup the structure of the dynamic array I am putting the data into. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users- boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Norman Bauer Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 11:15 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] XML format question George, either way will work. The by product of making xml attribute centric (fields inside the label) is that it produces smaller files (about half the size of element centric). If your producing small files that may be read by an admin, then go with element centric as it is easier to read. Otherwise attribute centric is much better for storage and transfer. Norm On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 11:06 AM, George Gallen ggal...@wyanokegroup.comwrote: I'm importing some XML, and a question came up with the following: I'm writing a small xml extraction program to setup a dynamic array, what is the difference between putting a field inside the label vs putting the field between the tags of the label? Aren't they both a subset of the label? I always thought that if the field was a single value field, it would be quoted and inside the label, but if it could be a multivaled field, it would go between the field tags, with it's own field/tags. Result precision=addressLatitude39.931085/Latitude Longitude-77.387943/LongitudeAddress1001 N Some Rd/Address CitySomewhere/CityStatePA/StateZip15063- 1404/ZipCountryUS/Country /Result Could this have formatted just as well as: Resultprecisionaddress/precisionLatitude39.931085/Latitude Longitude-77.387943/LongitudeAddress1001 N Some Rd/Address CitySomewhere/CityStatePA/StateZip19063- 1404/ZipCountryUS/Country /Result or Result precision=address Latitude=39.931085 Longitude=- 77.387943 Address=1001 N Some Rd City=Somewhere State=PA Zip=19063- 1404 Country=US/Result George Gallen Senior Programmer/Analyst Accounting/Data Division, EDI Administrator ggal...@wyanokegroup.com ph:856.848.9005 Ext 220 The Wyanoke Group http://www.wyanokegroup.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] XML format question
George So to paraphrase, when do you use attributes to hold data and when do you elements.. The problem is, there is no clear answer to this, and everyone who designs XML schema has to grapple with this question. The only simple answer is that if a value could legitimately have an attribute associated with it to qualify it, it should be an element. So in your example, the precision attribute is qualifying the type/content of the Latitude element. But that is really just a design and not a technical choice. The real answer is more pragmatic - it generally depends on what the consumer of that data wants. In parsing terms, attributes and elements are not the same so if the contract calls for an element, use an element; and if it calls for an attribute, use an attribute. It's a question I've asked lots of times and never really had a solid or consistent answer. Brian -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen Sent: 13 May 2010 4:06 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] XML format question I'm importing some XML, and a question came up with the following: I'm writing a small xml extraction program to setup a dynamic array, what is the difference between putting a field inside the label vs putting the field between the tags of the label? Aren't they both a subset of the label? I always thought that if the field was a single value field, it would be quoted and inside the label, but if it could be a multivaled field, it would go between the field tags, with it's own field/tags. Result precision=addressLatitude39.931085/Latitude Longitude-77.387943/LongitudeAddress1001 N Some Rd/Address CitySomewhere/CityStatePA/StateZip15063-1404/ZipCountryUS/Cou ntry /Result Could this have formatted just as well as: Resultprecisionaddress/precisionLatitude39.931085/Latitude Longitude-77.387943/LongitudeAddress1001 N Some Rd/Address CitySomewhere/CityStatePA/StateZip19063-1404/ZipCountryUS/Cou ntry /Result or Result precision=address Latitude=39.931085 Longitude=-77.387943 Address=1001 N Some Rd City=Somewhere State=PA Zip=19063-1404 Country=US/Result George Gallen Senior Programmer/Analyst Accounting/Data Division, EDI Administrator ggal...@wyanokegroup.com ph:856.848.9005 Ext 220 The Wyanoke Group http://www.wyanokegroup.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2870 - Release Date: 05/12/10 19:26:00 ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] XML format question
Ahh the old attribute/element discussion - much to be said on this in various quarters, you may want to google on xml elements or attributes to gain some insight. If space is of concern then attributes take less room, but then again if space is of concern don't do xml, do json/csv/edi etc Personally i do as much as poss in elements, and keep the attribute for simple standard things like id, date etc. It then means you can place things like cdata into all your fields and so limits you less in some regard Rgds Symeon. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen Sent: 13 May 2010 16:06 To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] XML format question I'm importing some XML, and a question came up with the following: I'm writing a small xml extraction program to setup a dynamic array, what is the difference between putting a field inside the label vs putting the field between the tags of the label? Aren't they both a subset of the label? I always thought that if the field was a single value field, it would be quoted and inside the label, but if it could be a multivaled field, it would go between the field tags, with it's own field/tags. Result precision=addressLatitude39.931085/Latitude Longitude-77.387943/LongitudeAddress1001 N Some Rd/Address CitySomewhere/CityStatePA/StateZip15063-1404/ZipCountryUS/Cou ntry /Result Could this have formatted just as well as: Resultprecisionaddress/precisionLatitude39.931085/Latitude Longitude-77.387943/LongitudeAddress1001 N Some Rd/Address CitySomewhere/CityStatePA/StateZip19063-1404/ZipCountryUS/Cou ntry /Result or Result precision=address Latitude=39.931085 Longitude=-77.387943 Address=1001 N Some Rd City=Somewhere State=PA Zip=19063-1404 Country=US/Result George Gallen Senior Programmer/Analyst Accounting/Data Division, EDI Administrator ggal...@wyanokegroup.com ph:856.848.9005 Ext 220 The Wyanoke Group http://www.wyanokegroup.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] XML format question
If space is of concern then attributes take less room, but then again if space is of concern don't do xml, do json/csv/edi etc excellent advice. norm On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Symeon Breen syme...@gmail.com wrote: Ahh the old attribute/element discussion - much to be said on this in various quarters, you may want to google on xml elements or attributes to gain some insight. If space is of concern then attributes take less room, but then again if space is of concern don't do xml, do json/csv/edi etc Personally i do as much as poss in elements, and keep the attribute for simple standard things like id, date etc. It then means you can place things like cdata into all your fields and so limits you less in some regard Rgds Symeon. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen Sent: 13 May 2010 16:06 To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] XML format question I'm importing some XML, and a question came up with the following: I'm writing a small xml extraction program to setup a dynamic array, what is the difference between putting a field inside the label vs putting the field between the tags of the label? Aren't they both a subset of the label? I always thought that if the field was a single value field, it would be quoted and inside the label, but if it could be a multivaled field, it would go between the field tags, with it's own field/tags. Result precision=addressLatitude39.931085/Latitude Longitude-77.387943/LongitudeAddress1001 N Some Rd/Address CitySomewhere/CityStatePA/StateZip15063-1404/ZipCountryUS/Cou ntry /Result Could this have formatted just as well as: Resultprecisionaddress/precisionLatitude39.931085/Latitude Longitude-77.387943/LongitudeAddress1001 N Some Rd/Address CitySomewhere/CityStatePA/StateZip19063-1404/ZipCountryUS/Cou ntry /Result or Result precision=address Latitude=39.931085 Longitude=-77.387943 Address=1001 N Some Rd City=Somewhere State=PA Zip=19063-1404 Country=US/Result George Gallen Senior Programmer/Analyst Accounting/Data Division, EDI Administrator ggal...@wyanokegroup.com ph:856.848.9005 Ext 220 The Wyanoke Group http://www.wyanokegroup.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] fnuxi problem
In the past when I had done fnuxi I always used the following syntax:
find . -name * -exec fnuxi {} \;
This takes and tries to fnuxi all files in the current directory and below.
If the file is not a U2 file it will not harm anything.
-Dan
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Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 11:23 AM
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Subject: Re: [U2] fnuxi problem
Hi all,
A follow up to my own query.
This site uses entirely dynamic files. The recommended way to do fnuxi
recursively over a whole application is to use find as in my previous email.
This will end up doing the fnuxi against the DATA.30 and OVER.30 files. The
OVER.30 file reports that it is not a UV file and is skipped.
If I do the fnuxi against the directory that represents the dynamic file, it
appears to work. If I do it against the DATA.30 file it sometimes hangs.
So, it now sounds as though I need to construct a find that will produce all
the files that don't end .30 (so I get the dictionaries and indices) and a
second pass to do all directories.
Once again, anyone had experience of this?
Martin Phillips
Ladybridge Systems Ltd
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Re: [U2] XML format question
since space concerns do not fall into place for my part, the xml has already been done, I had no control over that. I'm just trying to interpret the data correctly. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users- boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Norman Bauer Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 11:27 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] XML format question If space is of concern then attributes take less room, but then again if space is of concern don't do xml, do json/csv/edi etc excellent advice. norm On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Symeon Breen syme...@gmail.com wrote: Ahh the old attribute/element discussion - much to be said on this in various quarters, you may want to google on xml elements or attributes to gain some insight. If space is of concern then attributes take less room, but then again if space is of concern don't do xml, do json/csv/edi etc Personally i do as much as poss in elements, and keep the attribute for simple standard things like id, date etc. It then means you can place things like cdata into all your fields and so limits you less in some regard Rgds Symeon. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen Sent: 13 May 2010 16:06 To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] XML format question I'm importing some XML, and a question came up with the following: I'm writing a small xml extraction program to setup a dynamic array, what is the difference between putting a field inside the label vs putting the field between the tags of the label? Aren't they both a subset of the label? I always thought that if the field was a single value field, it would be quoted and inside the label, but if it could be a multivaled field, it would go between the field tags, with it's own field/tags. Result precision=addressLatitude39.931085/Latitude Longitude-77.387943/LongitudeAddress1001 N Some Rd/Address CitySomewhere/CityStatePA/StateZip15063- 1404/ZipCountryUS/Cou ntry /Result Could this have formatted just as well as: Resultprecisionaddress/precisionLatitude39.931085/Latitude Longitude-77.387943/LongitudeAddress1001 N Some Rd/Address CitySomewhere/CityStatePA/StateZip19063- 1404/ZipCountryUS/Cou ntry /Result or Result precision=address Latitude=39.931085 Longitude=- 77.387943 Address=1001 N Some Rd City=Somewhere State=PA Zip=19063- 1404 Country=US/Result George Gallen Senior Programmer/Analyst Accounting/Data Division, EDI Administrator ggal...@wyanokegroup.com ph:856.848.9005 Ext 220 The Wyanoke Group http://www.wyanokegroup.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] XML format question
It makes no difference for your extraction, there are no hard/fast rules as to why they have done it that way, if it is an attribute it will only be single valued, whereas if it is an element, it may be multivalued. A dtd or xsd will define if it is a multiple occurring element. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen Sent: 13 May 2010 16:22 To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] XML format question I'm not producing the file, I'm reading the file and was trying to figure out why some of the field were inside the result label, and others were between the result /result tags. I was trying to setup the structure of the dynamic array I am putting the data into. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users- boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Norman Bauer Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 11:15 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] XML format question George, either way will work. The by product of making xml attribute centric (fields inside the label) is that it produces smaller files (about half the size of element centric). If your producing small files that may be read by an admin, then go with element centric as it is easier to read. Otherwise attribute centric is much better for storage and transfer. Norm On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 11:06 AM, George Gallen ggal...@wyanokegroup.comwrote: I'm importing some XML, and a question came up with the following: I'm writing a small xml extraction program to setup a dynamic array, what is the difference between putting a field inside the label vs putting the field between the tags of the label? Aren't they both a subset of the label? I always thought that if the field was a single value field, it would be quoted and inside the label, but if it could be a multivaled field, it would go between the field tags, with it's own field/tags. Result precision=addressLatitude39.931085/Latitude Longitude-77.387943/LongitudeAddress1001 N Some Rd/Address CitySomewhere/CityStatePA/StateZip15063- 1404/ZipCountryUS/Country /Result Could this have formatted just as well as: Resultprecisionaddress/precisionLatitude39.931085/Latitude Longitude-77.387943/LongitudeAddress1001 N Some Rd/Address CitySomewhere/CityStatePA/StateZip19063- 1404/ZipCountryUS/Country /Result or Result precision=address Latitude=39.931085 Longitude=- 77.387943 Address=1001 N Some Rd City=Somewhere State=PA Zip=19063- 1404 Country=US/Result George Gallen Senior Programmer/Analyst Accounting/Data Division, EDI Administrator ggal...@wyanokegroup.com ph:856.848.9005 Ext 220 The Wyanoke Group http://www.wyanokegroup.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] XML format question
Looking at the schema didn't shed any extra light either! -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users- boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 11:29 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] XML format question since space concerns do not fall into place for my part, the xml has already been done, I had no control over that. I'm just trying to interpret the data correctly. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users- boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Norman Bauer Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 11:27 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] XML format question If space is of concern then attributes take less room, but then again if space is of concern don't do xml, do json/csv/edi etc excellent advice. norm ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] fnuxi problem
Hi Dan,
Sadly, this doesn't help as it will try to process the DATA.30 files that
cause the hang.
Thanks anyway.
Martin Phillips
Ladybridge Systems Ltd
17b Coldstream Lane, Hardingstone, Northampton, NN4 6DB
+44-(0)1604-709200
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Subject: Re: [U2] fnuxi problem
In the past when I had done fnuxi I always used the following syntax:
find . -name * -exec fnuxi {} \;
This takes and tries to fnuxi all files in the current directory and
below. If the file is not a U2 file it will not harm anything.
-Dan
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Re: [U2] XML format question
I like to think of elements are as file folders. You can create a specific file folder for every tiny piece of data and make locating those pieces easy in a DOM based on node name. SAX, on the other hand, fires off events for every node and attribute it encounters at all levels. So, your format choice is a combination of considerations. The parser is one major thing if you're dealing with raw parsing, but if you are going to need validation then which design will be easier to write/manage an xsd for? If you aren't doing validation and the parsing method is irrelevant then the main thing to consider is readability. As Norman said earlier, an attribute-centric file will be smaller. Keep in mind, though, that attributes define properties of an element/node. They are not root nodes and therefore can not have child nodes. Therefore, no relative multi-value/nested data can be stored. The element, which said attribute is in, can have child nodes but those nodes inherit all of the parent's attributes at once. IMO, common data should be included as attributes to a root element or as elements within a container that is defined as a single, large entity by the container. Hopefully that makes sense? Glen Batchelor IT Director All-Spec Industries phone: (910) 332-0424 fax: (910) 763-5664 E-mail: webmas...@all-spec.com Web: http://www.all-spec.com Blog: http://blog.all-spec.com -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users- boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Brian Leach Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 11:24 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] XML format question George So to paraphrase, when do you use attributes to hold data and when do you elements.. The problem is, there is no clear answer to this, and everyone who designs XML schema has to grapple with this question. The only simple answer is that if a value could legitimately have an attribute associated with it to qualify it, it should be an element. So in your example, the precision attribute is qualifying the type/content of the Latitude element. But that is really just a design and not a technical choice. The real answer is more pragmatic - it generally depends on what the consumer of that data wants. In parsing terms, attributes and elements are not the same so if the contract calls for an element, use an element; and if it calls for an attribute, use an attribute. It's a question I've asked lots of times and never really had a solid or consistent answer. Brian -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen Sent: 13 May 2010 4:06 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] XML format question I'm importing some XML, and a question came up with the following: I'm writing a small xml extraction program to setup a dynamic array, what is the difference between putting a field inside the label vs putting the field between the tags of the label? Aren't they both a subset of the label? I always thought that if the field was a single value field, it would be quoted and inside the label, but if it could be a multivaled field, it would go between the field tags, with it's own field/tags. Result precision=addressLatitude39.931085/Latitude Longitude-77.387943/LongitudeAddress1001 N Some Rd/Address CitySomewhere/CityStatePA/StateZip15063- 1404/ZipCountryUS/Cou ntry /Result Could this have formatted just as well as: Resultprecisionaddress/precisionLatitude39.931085/Latitude Longitude-77.387943/LongitudeAddress1001 N Some Rd/Address CitySomewhere/CityStatePA/StateZip19063- 1404/ZipCountryUS/Cou ntry /Result or Result precision=address Latitude=39.931085 Longitude=-77.387943 Address=1001 N Some Rd City=Somewhere State=PA Zip=19063-1404 Country=US/Result George Gallen Senior Programmer/Analyst Accounting/Data Division, EDI Administrator ggal...@wyanokegroup.com ph:856.848.9005 Ext 220 The Wyanoke Group http://www.wyanokegroup.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2870 - Release Date: 05/12/10 19:26:00 ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] fnuxi problem
Martin
The obvious choice would be uvbackup and uvrestore, but failing that you're
going to have to do some scripting.
How about:
Run a find for all the VOC files - that will get you all the account
directories. Redirect that to file. Edit it to remove all the /VOC so you're
left with the paths.
Edit the file (or cat it into a script). You want to run fnuxi against each
of those top level account directories for all files and directories
contained, but not recursively.
From memory a for..done loop should that, something like:
for file in account_directory/*; do; fnuxi $file; done
Sorry it's been a while since I've had to do this: I use my own packaging
tools.
Brian
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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Martin Phillips
Sent: 13 May 2010 3:48 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] fnuxi problem
Hi all,
I am on a UniVerse client site trying to move an application with a vast
number of dynamic files, some indexed, from UV 10.1.18 on a Sun Solaris box
to UV 10.3.6 on a Red Hat Linux Intel box.
The data files were moved with tar and byte order conversion was done using
find . -type f -exec fnuxi {} \;
This appeared to work but, on testing the application today, it now seems
that it skipped quite a few files along the way. Given that fnuxi is
supposed to ignore files that don't need conversion, I simply ran the
process again. It hung after converting a number of files, looping at 100%
cp.
In an attempt to make this restartable, I created a shell script with each
file as a separate fnuxi command. Again, this works for a while and then
hangs. At each hang, I note the failing file, remove everything down to that
point from the script and try again. The hangs are so often that this has
become unworkable (there are about 400,000 files in the list).
Repeating the fnuxi for a failing file sometimes fails again and sometimes
works ok. I have also seen it fail with a segmentation fault.
Some of the hangs are on the data files, some are on indices. I have even
used filepeek to walk through a failing file looking for ideas about why it
hangs.
So, has anyone experienced the same problem and, far more importantly, has
anyone got a fix or an alternative suggestion of how to move this system?
Thanks.
Martin Phillips
Ladybridge Systems Ltd
17b Coldstream Lane, Hardingstone, Northampton, NN4 6DB
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Re: [U2] XML format question
George: If I understand your question, all you are trying to do is figure out how to get the value of the element attributes in an XML file you are receiving. If this is what you need to accomplish, the following is an example of a portion of an extract file that shows the format to do this. For a normal element like Money currency=USD285.72/Money it would be field_extraction field=DICTNAME1 path=Money/text()/ For an element with attributes like OrderRequestHeader orderDate=2010-04-13T09:35:27-0400 orderID=EW244267 type=new it would be field_extraction field=DICTNAME2 path=OrderRequestHeader/@orderID/ field_extraction field=DICTNAME3 path=OrderRequestHeader/@orderDate/ Note the use of the @ symbol and the lack of /text() on the end of the line. Hope that helps -- Carl Dula Voice: 973-227-8440 X111 Pulsar Systems, Inc.Fax: 973-227-8440 271 Route 46 West, Suite H209 email:c...@pulsarsystems.com Fairfield, NJ 07004-2474http://www.pulsarsystems.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] fnuxi problem
The following worked for me when we did a UV migration from unix to linux about 7 years ago: fnuxi * I wrote a script that descended into the directory for each account and executed the prior command at that level. We have a mix of dynamic and standard hashed files, and the command worked for both simultaneously. It seems to be smart enough to look one level down in directories to determine if they represent a dynamic file. -John -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Martin Phillips Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 8:23 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] fnuxi problem Hi all, A follow up to my own query. This site uses entirely dynamic files. The recommended way to do fnuxi recursively over a whole application is to use find as in my previous email. This will end up doing the fnuxi against the DATA.30 and OVER.30 files. The OVER.30 file reports that it is not a UV file and is skipped. If I do the fnuxi against the directory that represents the dynamic file, it appears to work. If I do it against the DATA.30 file it sometimes hangs. So, it now sounds as though I need to construct a find that will produce all the files that don't end .30 (so I get the dictionaries and indices) and a second pass to do all directories. Once again, anyone had experience of this? Martin Phillips Ladybridge Systems Ltd 17b Coldstream Lane, Hardingstone, Northampton, NN4 6DB +44-(0)1604-709200 ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] fnuxi problem
Hi. What about doing it at UniVerse level? You can get the list of files with SELECTFL, saving the list and execute a FORMAT.CONV for each file. Regards -- Augusto 2010/5/13 John Hester jhes...@momtex.com The following worked for me when we did a UV migration from unix to linux about 7 years ago: fnuxi * I wrote a script that descended into the directory for each account and executed the prior command at that level. We have a mix of dynamic and standard hashed files, and the command worked for both simultaneously. It seems to be smart enough to look one level down in directories to determine if they represent a dynamic file. -John -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Martin Phillips Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 8:23 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] fnuxi problem Hi all, A follow up to my own query. This site uses entirely dynamic files. The recommended way to do fnuxi recursively over a whole application is to use find as in my previous email. This will end up doing the fnuxi against the DATA.30 and OVER.30 files. The OVER.30 file reports that it is not a UV file and is skipped. If I do the fnuxi against the directory that represents the dynamic file, it appears to work. If I do it against the DATA.30 file it sometimes hangs. So, it now sounds as though I need to construct a find that will produce all the files that don't end .30 (so I get the dictionaries and indices) and a second pass to do all directories. Once again, anyone had experience of this? Martin Phillips Ladybridge Systems Ltd 17b Coldstream Lane, Hardingstone, Northampton, NN4 6DB +44-(0)1604-709200 ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] fnuxi problem
In message 9ea3c4a038d14a2fa37a2ea3c801a...@lbs8, Martin Phillips martinphill...@ladybridge.com writes Hi all, A follow up to my own query. This site uses entirely dynamic files. The recommended way to do fnuxi recursively over a whole application is to use find as in my previous email. This will end up doing the fnuxi against the DATA.30 and OVER.30 files. The OVER.30 file reports that it is not a UV file and is skipped. If I do the fnuxi against the directory that represents the dynamic file, it appears to work. If I do it against the DATA.30 file it sometimes hangs. So, it now sounds as though I need to construct a find that will produce all the files that don't end .30 (so I get the dictionaries and indices) and a second pass to do all directories. Once again, anyone had experience of this? not being on my linux system I can't do a quick man, but has find got an option to say how deep to search? Off the top of my head I think it has. If you can say only search the current directory, and run it in the account directory, it sounds like that'll do exactly what you want. That's assuming you're only converting one account. If you're converting multiple accounts, Brian's search for VOCs and process each in turn in a script sounds like the route you want. Cheers, Wol -- Anthony W. Youngman pi...@thewolery.demon.co.uk 'Yings, yow graley yin! Suz ae rikt dheu,' said the blue man, taking the thimble. 'What *is* he?' said Magrat. 'They're gnomes,' said Nanny. The man lowered the thimble. 'Pictsies!' Carpe Jugulum, Terry Pratchett 1998 Visit the MaVerick web-site - http://www.maverick-dbms.org Open Source Pick ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Printing images
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Re: [U2] XML format question
XML, as suggested, is a flexible container but I think that the pundits suggest that you use elements for data and attributes for metadata which is used to refine or modify the default behaviour of an element. For example: Money currency=aud12.99/Money Then if you needed to store or convert the currency in your application - you have the option to do so. In your example the Result is described by the precision attribute as an address and the address data is contained in nested elements within the Result element. Pretty logical (though the precision nomenclature seems weird). So, depending on how and where you want to use the result would determine how you convert it to a dynamic array. I'd probably just convert the XML into: a [U2]attribute for the precision and one each for the address elements. However, you could easily put the precision into one [U2]attribute and the address elements into another [U2]attribute as multi-values. It really depends on how and where you want to use the result. Stuart Boydell -Original Message- since space concerns do not fall into place for my part, the xml has already been done, I had no control over that. I'm just trying to interpret the data correctly. Result precision=addressLatitude39.931085/Latitude Longitude-77.387943/LongitudeAddress1001 N Some Rd/Address CitySomewhere/CityStatePA/StateZip15063- 1404/ZipCountryUS/Cou ntry /Result ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
