Re: [U2] converting D3 to UniData
I can share that it depends on a lot on the application. Many years ago (now) there was an outsourced computer logistics company that wanted to install our R5 ERP product only problem was, we used D3 but the company had Unidata, and would NOT contemplate a change. So, the client contracted Unidata (Australia) to undertake the conversion. They had a look at some of the code and came up with a "quote" of "less than a week". The week passed, and the timeframe had grown to a month. They were having issues with some of the dictionary items we had, and they advised client it would take another week, then a month, then 2 months, then our prospect said "too hard". Interestingly enough, the company DID end up installing a new ERP system running jBase (from Citadel). I'm sure things have progressed a lot since then, and yet . (like I said, this was quite a few years ago, and I'm sure their interoperability will have improved. Why, I bet any day now even Universe conversions will be a snap ;-) Ross Ferris Stamina Software Visage > Better by Design! -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Ruckel Sent: Thursday, 22 November 2012 2:59 PM To: U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] converting D3 to UniData Can I convince someone in this group to share their experience/s converting D3 to UniData? Thanks, Danny ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
[U2] converting D3 to UniData
Can I convince someone in this group to share their experience/s converting D3 to UniData? Thanks, Danny ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] UV11.1.9 uvconfig issue
Glad to hear you have been successful with uvregen. Also thanks for the advice about 11.1.10 Regards, Colin Lucas desk +61 7 3166 4930 fax +61 7 5443 8106 web youi.com.au youi abbr. you.insured verb. state of being where you save money by taking control of your insurance yourself. youi.com.au noun. place to reach state of being -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Gregor Scott Sent: Thursday, 22 November 2012 12:51 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] UV11.1.9 uvconfig issue > I would not consider those values as large. I did ask via our > supplier in Australia ( Meier Business Systems) to lodge a case with > Rocket to remove the limitation of 32MB particularly in view of our system > having 512GB of main memory. Not sure if this will get a look in the upcoming > release 11.1.10. Just had feedback from Rocket Support that this issue should be addressed in 11.1.10, due November-30. In the mean time, adjusting the NUSERS setting (as a result of reducing our Phantom Loading%), and reducing our locking table has finally resulted in a successful uvregen! Thanks Colin This email and any attachments to it are confidential. You must not use, disclose or act on the email if you are not the intended recipient. Liability limited by a scheme approved under Professional Standards Legislation. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users This email message and any files attaching to it has been transmitted by Youi Pty Ltd and they are intended only for the addressee(s) and contain information which may be privileged, confidential and/or subject to copyright. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy this e-mail immediately. For full terms and conditions of this e-mail communication please visit http://www.youi.com.au/terms-and-conditions/email-disclaimer .Youi Pty Ltd is committed to responsible environmental management in carrying out its operations. Please consider the environment before printing this email. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] UV11.1.9 uvconfig issue
> I would not consider those values as large. I did ask via our supplier in > Australia ( Meier Business Systems) to lodge a case with Rocket to > remove the limitation of 32MB particularly in view of our system having 512GB > of main memory. Not sure if this will get a look in the upcoming > release 11.1.10. Just had feedback from Rocket Support that this issue should be addressed in 11.1.10, due November-30. In the mean time, adjusting the NUSERS setting (as a result of reducing our Phantom Loading%), and reducing our locking table has finally resulted in a successful uvregen! Thanks Colin This email and any attachments to it are confidential. You must not use, disclose or act on the email if you are not the intended recipient. Liability limited by a scheme approved under Professional Standards Legislation. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] UV11.1.9 uvconfig issue
Why would 800 users need such an enormous number of locks? -Original Message- From: Colin Lucas To: U2 Users List Sent: Wed, Nov 21, 2012 5:19 pm Subject: Re: [U2] UV11.1.9 uvconfig issue I would not consider those values as large. I did ask via our supplier in Australia ( Meier Business Systems) to lodge a case with Rocket to remove the limitation of 32MB particularly in view of our system having 512GB of main memory. Not sure if this will get a look in the upcoming release 11.1.10. Your current values give about 27,000 concurrent locks. Perhaps you can trim the width down and shorten the depth of GSEMNUM if your system doesn't need the possibility of as many locks being set. Colin Lucas desk +61 7 3166 4930 fax +61 7 5443 8106 web youi.com.au youi abbr. you.insured verb. state of being where you save money by taking control of your insurance yourself. youi.com.au noun. place to reach state of being -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Gregor Scott Sent: Thursday, 22 November 2012 11:03 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] UV11.1.9 uvconfig issue Interesting - a fixed ceiling of 32mb. Would you consider the following to be a large lock table: GSEMNUM 193 GLTABSZ 150 RLTABSZ 150 -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Colin Lucas Sent: Thursday, 22 November 2012 11:53 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] UV11.1.9 uvconfig issue At UV11.1.9 the shared memory segment cannot be greater than 32 megabytes. When I tried to set the various values for approximately 800 users and have a huge record/group lock table I blew the limit. Suggest you try to pare down as much as possible the lock table if it is large. Colin Lucas Youi Pty Ltd This email and any attachments to it are confidential. You must not use, disclose or act on the email if you are not the intended recipient. Liability limited by a scheme approved under Professional Standards Legislation. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users This email message and any files attaching to it has been transmitted by Youi Pty Ltd and they are intended only for the addressee(s) and contain information which may be privileged, confidential and/or subject to copyright. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy this e-mail immediately. For full terms and conditions of this e-mail communication please visit http://www.youi.com.au/terms-and-conditions/email-disclaimer .Youi Pty Ltd is committed to responsible environmental management in carrying out its operations. Please consider the environment before printing this email. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] UV11.1.9 uvconfig issue
I would not consider those values as large. I did ask via our supplier in Australia ( Meier Business Systems) to lodge a case with Rocket to remove the limitation of 32MB particularly in view of our system having 512GB of main memory. Not sure if this will get a look in the upcoming release 11.1.10. Your current values give about 27,000 concurrent locks. Perhaps you can trim the width down and shorten the depth of GSEMNUM if your system doesn't need the possibility of as many locks being set. Colin Lucas desk +61 7 3166 4930 fax +61 7 5443 8106 web youi.com.au youi abbr. you.insured verb. state of being where you save money by taking control of your insurance yourself. youi.com.au noun. place to reach state of being -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Gregor Scott Sent: Thursday, 22 November 2012 11:03 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] UV11.1.9 uvconfig issue Interesting - a fixed ceiling of 32mb. Would you consider the following to be a large lock table: GSEMNUM 193 GLTABSZ 150 RLTABSZ 150 -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Colin Lucas Sent: Thursday, 22 November 2012 11:53 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] UV11.1.9 uvconfig issue At UV11.1.9 the shared memory segment cannot be greater than 32 megabytes. When I tried to set the various values for approximately 800 users and have a huge record/group lock table I blew the limit. Suggest you try to pare down as much as possible the lock table if it is large. Colin Lucas Youi Pty Ltd This email and any attachments to it are confidential. You must not use, disclose or act on the email if you are not the intended recipient. Liability limited by a scheme approved under Professional Standards Legislation. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users This email message and any files attaching to it has been transmitted by Youi Pty Ltd and they are intended only for the addressee(s) and contain information which may be privileged, confidential and/or subject to copyright. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy this e-mail immediately. For full terms and conditions of this e-mail communication please visit http://www.youi.com.au/terms-and-conditions/email-disclaimer .Youi Pty Ltd is committed to responsible environmental management in carrying out its operations. Please consider the environment before printing this email. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] UV11.1.9 uvconfig issue
Interesting - a fixed ceiling of 32mb. Would you consider the following to be a large lock table: GSEMNUM 193 GLTABSZ 150 RLTABSZ 150 -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Colin Lucas Sent: Thursday, 22 November 2012 11:53 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] UV11.1.9 uvconfig issue At UV11.1.9 the shared memory segment cannot be greater than 32 megabytes. When I tried to set the various values for approximately 800 users and have a huge record/group lock table I blew the limit. Suggest you try to pare down as much as possible the lock table if it is large. Colin Lucas Youi Pty Ltd This email and any attachments to it are confidential. You must not use, disclose or act on the email if you are not the intended recipient. Liability limited by a scheme approved under Professional Standards Legislation. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] UV11.1.9 uvconfig issue
At UV11.1.9 the shared memory segment cannot be greater than 32 megabytes. When I tried to set the various values for approximately 800 users and have a huge record/group lock table I blew the limit. Suggest you try to pare down as much as possible the lock table if it is large. Colin Lucas Youi Pty Ltd fax +61 7 5443 8106 web youi.com.au youi abbr. you.insured verb. state of being where you save money by taking control of your insurance yourself. youi.com.au noun. place to reach state of being -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Gregor Scott Sent: Thursday, 22 November 2012 10:48 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] UV11.1.9 uvconfig issue I need guidance from those who have battled (and hopefully won!) the UV11 shared memory setup. I am configuring a RHEL6 server with UV11.1.9 to perform some load testing, and am getting an issue with uvregen processing the uvconfig settings. The error is: # uvregen Disk shared memory size of 44759272 exceeds maximum allowed size of 33554432 uvregen: error during regen, process aborted uvregen: error during regen, process aborted # The question is: What setting(s) in the uvconfig file (or in unix) control the "maximum allowed size" value of 33554432 (32768k, 32mb)? We are tuning for 1040 uv processes (with 10 device licenses per proc, and 2 connection pool licenses and possible 45% phantom process loading), so the following uvconfig settings are in place: NUSERS 15083 SHM_GNTBLS 32 SHM_GNPAGES 480 SHM_GPAGESZ 512 Thanks Gregor This email and any attachments to it are confidential. You must not use, disclose or act on the email if you are not the intended recipient. Liability limited by a scheme approved under Professional Standards Legislation. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users This email message and any files attaching to it has been transmitted by Youi Pty Ltd and they are intended only for the addressee(s) and contain information which may be privileged, confidential and/or subject to copyright. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy this e-mail immediately. For full terms and conditions of this e-mail communication please visit http://www.youi.com.au/terms-and-conditions/email-disclaimer .Youi Pty Ltd is committed to responsible environmental management in carrying out its operations. Please consider the environment before printing this email. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
[U2] UV11.1.9 uvconfig issue
I need guidance from those who have battled (and hopefully won!) the UV11 shared memory setup. I am configuring a RHEL6 server with UV11.1.9 to perform some load testing, and am getting an issue with uvregen processing the uvconfig settings. The error is: # uvregen Disk shared memory size of 44759272 exceeds maximum allowed size of 33554432 uvregen: error during regen, process aborted uvregen: error during regen, process aborted # The question is: What setting(s) in the uvconfig file (or in unix) control the "maximum allowed size" value of 33554432 (32768k, 32mb)? We are tuning for 1040 uv processes (with 10 device licenses per proc, and 2 connection pool licenses and possible 45% phantom process loading), so the following uvconfig settings are in place: NUSERS 15083 SHM_GNTBLS 32 SHM_GNPAGES 480 SHM_GPAGESZ 512 Thanks Gregor This email and any attachments to it are confidential. You must not use, disclose or act on the email if you are not the intended recipient. Liability limited by a scheme approved under Professional Standards Legislation. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] UniVerse on a Windows Virtual Server
Our customers have been running universe 10.3 on Windows 2008 R2 without any issues. On the virtualisation side we have had customers who moved to a virtual environment and experienced a drop in the performance of universe database. We ran our own test internally and could not get the same performance out of the same machine virtualized compared to bare metal. In some processes on large files the time to complete the process doubled. I would suggest that you run some performance tests on your virtual environment first to see if you are happy with the results and that your application runs at an acceptable level. Measure your processes in a virtual environment and then measure in a non virtual. It is up to you and your customers to what an acceptable level of performance is. Regards Adrian Halid -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Doug Averch Sent: Thursday, 22 November 2012 3:13 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse on a Windows Virtual Server Hi Jerry: We have been running internally Universe on Windows 2008R2 using the 32 bit version for years. We have found that occasionally we have a run away uv process that consumes the machine. We keep either a Process Explorer window open or Window Task Manager to kill the run away processes, because you cannot get them to start on the Windows VM side. We have not used 10.3 release in so long we cannot say except it is better to be current. We have client that is using Universe 11.3 on Windows 2008R2 and is not experiencing any issues. Disk I/O is shared so their is a speed hit which we notice on large files. We have just configured a replacement machine with a SSD on it. We think the speed increase will more than offset the VM shared resource issues. Good Luck, Doug www.u2logic.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] UniVerse on a Windows Virtual Server
Hi Jerry: We have been running internally Universe on Windows 2008R2 using the 32 bit version for years. We have found that occasionally we have a run away uv process that consumes the machine. We keep either a Process Explorer window open or Window Task Manager to kill the run away processes, because you cannot get them to start on the Windows VM side. We have not used 10.3 release in so long we cannot say except it is better to be current. We have client that is using Universe 11.3 on Windows 2008R2 and is not experiencing any issues. Disk I/O is shared so their is a speed hit which we notice on large files. We have just configured a replacement machine with a SSD on it. We think the speed increase will more than offset the VM shared resource issues. Good Luck, Doug www.u2logic.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
[U2] UniVerse on a Windows Virtual Server
We have two virtual servers with UniVerse on them, one for testing and another for development both used just for that purpose and not tuned for production. We are thinking of going virtual with our production environment. We are using Windows as the operating system and don't plan on switching.I've been asked to get opinions from the users group from people that have gone into using virtualization with their production environment.What are the pro's and con's?Any suggestions on how to set the systems up?We have less than 75 users with device licenses using the apps on a regular basis, plus web users.Our current UV release is 10.3.3 32 bit on Windows 2008 sp2 64 bit, should we switch to a more current version and/or 64 bit Universe?Any experiences would be helpful. Thank you, Jerry Banker Sr Software Engineer T 800.233.8483 | F 573.374.9972 | WWW.AFFILIATED.ORG ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
