Re: [U2] [OT] Interview Questions

2013-10-09 Thread Kevin King 
For everyone else who responded and that I didn't respond personally, thank
you so much.  I've come to the conclusion that not only have I been lax in
testing technical knowledge, Brian is right, I didn't really have a vision
for where to slot someone and therefore the interview was a little washed
out.  Thanks to everyone who has (and will) respond to this.  It's most
helpful.


On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 8:11 PM, Kevin King  wrote:

> Rex, copious thanks.  Great information.
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Rex Gozar  wrote:
>
>> Kevin,
>>
>> You want people who are smart and get things done --
>> http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog73.html
>>
>> rex
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 4:39 AM, Brian Leach 
>> wrote:
>> > Kevin
>> >
>> > I remember a long time back working for a consultancy in Oxford we had
>> long
>> > and ineffective interview processes.
>> > Then we took on a client that was an institute of personnel directors,
>> and
>> > found they published some very good materials on how to conduct
>> interviews.
>> >
>> > The main lesson was to have a very clear set of goals and criteria
>> drawn up
>> > and agreed before you go in, and a clear way to assess against that.
>> Sounds
>> > obvious, but we weren't doing that.
>> >
>> > When we did it was much easier to decide whether they had demonstrated
>> that
>> > they had met those criteria and we could be more analytical especially
>> at
>> > the first interview stage.
>> >
>> > That was more valuable than trying to come up with clever questions.
>> >
>> > Technical assessment is a different story. For that, a clear task to
>> perform
>> > with measurable criteria for correctness.
>> >
>> > Brian
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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Re: [U2] [OT] Interview Questions

2013-10-09 Thread Kevin King 
Rex, copious thanks.  Great information.


On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Rex Gozar  wrote:

> Kevin,
>
> You want people who are smart and get things done --
> http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog73.html
>
> rex
>
> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 4:39 AM, Brian Leach 
> wrote:
> > Kevin
> >
> > I remember a long time back working for a consultancy in Oxford we had
> long
> > and ineffective interview processes.
> > Then we took on a client that was an institute of personnel directors,
> and
> > found they published some very good materials on how to conduct
> interviews.
> >
> > The main lesson was to have a very clear set of goals and criteria drawn
> up
> > and agreed before you go in, and a clear way to assess against that.
> Sounds
> > obvious, but we weren't doing that.
> >
> > When we did it was much easier to decide whether they had demonstrated
> that
> > they had met those criteria and we could be more analytical especially at
> > the first interview stage.
> >
> > That was more valuable than trying to come up with clever questions.
> >
> > Technical assessment is a different story. For that, a clear task to
> perform
> > with measurable criteria for correctness.
> >
> > Brian
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [U2] [OT] Interview Questions

2013-10-09 Thread Kevin King 
TG, I hired a guy with copious MV skill.  He came on strong and then just
one day decided that he was smarter than everyone else and didn't want to
do the tasks that he was assigned.  Unbelievable waste of an otherwise
talented resource.


On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Tony Gravagno <3xk547...@sneakemail.com>wrote:

> I wrote a short blog series on the ineffectiveness of 98% of the
> companies recruiting for MV positions, I just haven't published it yet.
> In short, they don't know what questions to ask and most end-users don't
> know either. That's why we see a high percentage of failed hires in
> this industry, and Kevin is just confirming that.
>
> Kevin, don't forget PickJobs.net.
>
>
> In addition to some of the suggestions here, I'd give a candidate a set of
> hands-on tests. Their resources: The command line and a browser. We're all
> going to have varying degrees of success coughing up a solution on the
> spot, in a verbal interview, or in writing. But if we can put it to the
> keyboard, most of us are going to have much better success. The browser is
> there for a touch of the real world. I might not know the exact syntax to
> get something done, but if I screw up and fall into debug, I will still get
> the job done quickly if I can access the product documentation, wiki's, and
> these valuable forums. Rather than asking a person for a fish, just make
> sure they know where to fish and that they know how to use the fishing
> pole. If they don't know where to find solutions then they're going to
> flounder (pun wasn't intended, but I'll take it). If they know where the
> industry/community resources are then they'll be able to respond to dynamic
>  requirements even if they don't know a solution off-hand.
>
> And I'm going to alienate about 70% of our colleagues here, but I think a
> modern interview needs to favor those who have current knowledge of a
> variety of technologies. A BASIC-only developer isn't going to cut it
> anymore and people who are BASIC-only are holding onto their jobs because
> they know their current applications, not for their technical skills. If
> you're going to hire someone who isn't familiar with your app, they Must be
> on top of technologies, only one of which is MV. So depending on your
> company/client directions, the modern candidate must know MV + (Java and/or
> .NET and/or PHP and/or MySQL and/or SQL Server). They must have a solid
> grasp on XML and/or JSON. They must have a working knowledge of web
> services with SOAP and/or REST - and sending/receiving transactions with
> MV. A new hire must understand how MV behaves as a component in an
> enterprise, not as the one and only server in an office.
>
> Yeah, we're going to pay more for this person, but the person who
> differentiates themselves by knowing more than just Pick has already
> distinguished themselves in their ability to adapt to change - and that's
> really the kind of person we need to hire these days. Unfortunately it's
> going to be a lot easier to train someone to use Pick if they already know
> other technologies, than it will be to train a MV-only person to use other
> technologies. The people who haven't picked up on technology from this
> millennium demonstrate a long-term lack of drive and initiative - that's
> the kind of person we do Not want to hire these days.
>
> (One of the services I "passively" offer is assistance with hiring,
> interviewing, etc. Please feel free to contact me for assistance in
> creating job ads which attract the right people, and evaluating the people
> who respond.)
>
>
> Tony Gravagno
> Nebula Research and Development
> TG@ remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com
> http://Nebula-RnD.com/blog
> http://LinkedIn.com/in/TonyGravagno
> http://Twitter.com/TonyGravagno
> http://PickWiki.com
> http://groups.google.com/group/MVDBMS
> http://www.LinkedIn.com/groups/Pick-Users-Group-64935
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Re: [U2] [OT] Interview Questions

2013-10-09 Thread Kevin King 
David, I'm a company of < 10.  HR, technology, hell, even vacuuming the
facility falls to moi.


On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 2:27 PM, David A. Green wrote:

> Why not let HR handle the personality questions and background checks,
> that's what they do.  That leaves you to concentrate on their technical
> abilities.
>
> David A. Green
> (480) 813-1725
> DAG Consulting
>
> -Original Message-
> From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
> [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Susan Joslyn
> Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 12:54 PM
> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Subject: Re: [U2] [OT] Interview Questions
>
> Kevin,
>
> Not that I have any real experience - at least not for what seems like a
> lifetime - with hiring.  But my instinct might be to let the applicant tell
> me whatever they want.  You know, just an open ended "Tell me what you
> would
> like me to know about your skills, your ambitions and your work ethic."
> Probably that's an approach you've already tried.
>
> Susan
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
>
> From:  
> u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [
> 
> mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Leverett,
> Brendon
>
> Sent: Tuesday, 8 October 2013 1:40 PM
>
> To: U2 Users List
>
> Subject: Re: [U2] [OT] Interview Questions
>
>
>
> Interviewer: What is one of your weak points?
>
> Applicant: My honesty.
>
> Interviewer: I would have thought that was a strong point.
>
> Applicant: I don't give a %^&* what you think you stupid ^&^%$
>
>
>
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Re: [U2] [OT] Interview Questions

2013-10-09 Thread Kevin King 
Susan, yes.  I've been very open in my interviews, and it's netted
significantly regrettable results.  So this time I'm going for people who
can get behind and contribute to the common cause as soon after hire as
possible.  I don't have any aspirations of hiring for life, though I
certainly do endeavor to have that kind of an environment for a person who
wants that sort of thing.  I just need to quit hiring backstabbing chaff
with their own agendas.


On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Susan Joslyn  wrote:

> Kevin,
>
> Not that I have any real experience - at least not for what seems like a
> lifetime - with hiring.  But my instinct might be to let the applicant tell
> me whatever they want.  You know, just an open ended "Tell me what you
> would
> like me to know about your skills, your ambitions and your work ethic."
> Probably that's an approach you've already tried.
>
> Susan
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
>
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> u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [
> 
> mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Leverett,
> Brendon
>
> Sent: Tuesday, 8 October 2013 1:40 PM
>
> To: U2 Users List
>
> Subject: Re: [U2] [OT] Interview Questions
>
>
>
> Interviewer: What is one of your weak points?
>
> Applicant: My honesty.
>
> Interviewer: I would have thought that was a strong point.
>
> Applicant: I don't give a %^&* what you think you stupid ^&^%$
>
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Re: [U2] [OT] Interview Questions

2013-10-09 Thread Kevin King 
Hey man, it was funny!  Thanks for the levity.


On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 8:43 PM, Leverett, Brendon <
brendon.lever...@spotless.com.au> wrote:

> Kevin,
> Sorry if I was making light of your serious request but this rather bad
> joke came back to me as soon as I read your post.
>
> Good luck with the tech & non-tech Qs
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:
> u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Leverett, Brendon
> Sent: Tuesday, 8 October 2013 1:40 PM
> To: U2 Users List
> Subject: Re: [U2] [OT] Interview Questions
>
> Interviewer: What is one of your weak points?
> Applicant: My honesty.
> Interviewer: I would have thought that was a strong point.
> Applicant: I don't give a %^&* what you think you stupid ^&^%$
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:
> u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Kevin King
> Sent: Tuesday, 8 October 2013 1:36 PM
> To: U2 Users List
> Subject: [U2] [OT] Interview Questions
>
> This is not specifically a job posting, but I do have ads up on Monster
> and LinkedIn looking for talent.
>
> At the risk of confessing too much, I have historically been far too easy
> in the interview process.  As a result, I have had some less-than-excellent
> hires and spent far too much time and money trying to rescue
> underperforming and/or recalcitrant staff.  Therefore, I'm planning to be
> much more discriminating this time around, and am building a series of
> technical questions to help quickly identify those that have the right
> skills, abilities, and attitude for our team compared to those who may not.
>
> That being said, I have a question for the group:
>
> Technical questions aside, what are the best interview questions you've
> asked, been asked, or otherwise heard about that help differentiate between
> the candidates worthy of additional consideration vs. those that are not?
>
> Each company is different of course, but that aside I'm hoping to get some
> ideas to cut to the heart of the matter as quickly and efficiently as
> possible, both for the sake of the interviewer and the interviewee.  (My
> technical interview is bordering on 200 questions and growing at an
> alarming pace.) If there were a half dozen questions to open with that
> could help set the stage for what may be to come, that could be very
> beneficial for everyone in this mix.
>
> Also, in an effort to keep the OT to a minimum, please don't ask me
> questions about the positions here.  If you have questions, email me
> directly or through LinkedIn.  I'd prefer to keep this topic on point of
> your recommended interview questions.
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Re: [U2] [OT] Interview Questions

2013-10-09 Thread Tony Gravagno 
We're actually on the same page, Doug, thanks. What was on my mind is that 
while everyone "knows" they need to diversify, too many do not actually 
diversify. I know some very smart, highly expert BASIC people who have known 
for many years that they need to do something beyond BASIC, but they don't. 
With the recession at its peak people were being sacked everywhere and 
BASIC-only people were in a panic about what they would do if they lost their 
job. What did they do? Some went looking for more BASIC-only jobs, though some 
people cross-trained, and others took the opportunity to retrain themselves 
completely out of the industry. I don't want to be anecdotal, I'm citing a 
general flaw that many of us share to some degree. My last four blogs discuss 
in various ways how MV people cling so dearly to MV-only, to their own 
detriment and that of this industry. http://Nebula-RnD.com/blog/

Keeping this on-topic, it's not enough for an individual to know that they need 
to cross-train. A valued employee will do some of it on their own, off-hours, 
because that's how professionals hone their craft. And they'll ask their 
company for classes and time to practice on app modernization that the company 
values. They'll get books and spend time on websites for JavaScript and .NET 
and HTML5, etc. They'll mention other technologies
 that can be used to satisfy current business requirements. They'll take 
initiative on their own behalf,
 as a matter of their own
 survival. When they get a new job they'll ask about how they're going to 
improve their skills in addition to how they're going to use their current 
skills to help the company. This is the kind of person who distinguishes 
themselves as a long-term contributor compared to someone who's just selling 
time for money. Unfortunately our industry doesn't have enough of these people, 
both in end-user shops and in the VAR channel, and this is why we have a high 
attrition of end-users leaving to other technologies. (I'm hoping some of our 
colleagues out there are now thinking about how to open a new discussion with 
their managers.. If you'd like some help with that, please feel free to email 
me off-list. TG at-remove-this-anti-spam-mungeNebula-RnD.com.)

Best,
T


On Tuesday, October 8, 2013 3:56 PM, doug chanco wrote:
 
Tony,
    I agree with everything you said
 except one thing .

"And I'm going to alienate about 70% of our colleagues
 here, but I think 
a modern interview needs to favor those who have current knowledge of a 
variety of technologies. A BASIC-only developer isn't going to cut it 
anymore and people who are BASIC-only are holding onto their jobs 
because they know
 their current applications, not for their technical 
skills .."

I think you have it wrong
 and that 70% agree with you and 30% will disagree, I don't want to get to far 
off topic on this off topic topic, but most if not all know that just being a 
pick basic developer doesn't cut it anymore, pick talks to all kinds of 
"modern" technologies and the "green screen apps" are going the way of the 
dinosaurs, so one would have to have their head in the sand to not see that you 
need more skills than just knowing pick basic and how to create dictionaries 
and write prok's, having said that your post was well said "as usual"

dougc
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Re: [U2] [OT] Interview Questions

2013-10-09 Thread Rex Gozar 
Kevin,

You want people who are smart and get things done --
http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog73.html

rex

On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 4:39 AM, Brian Leach  wrote:
> Kevin
>
> I remember a long time back working for a consultancy in Oxford we had long
> and ineffective interview processes.
> Then we took on a client that was an institute of personnel directors, and
> found they published some very good materials on how to conduct interviews.
>
> The main lesson was to have a very clear set of goals and criteria drawn up
> and agreed before you go in, and a clear way to assess against that. Sounds
> obvious, but we weren't doing that.
>
> When we did it was much easier to decide whether they had demonstrated that
> they had met those criteria and we could be more analytical especially at
> the first interview stage.
>
> That was more valuable than trying to come up with clever questions.
>
> Technical assessment is a different story. For that, a clear task to perform
> with measurable criteria for correctness.
>
> Brian
>
>
>
>
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Re: [U2] UV and Mount -t CIFS

2013-10-09 Thread George Gallen 
Yes, when I setup the server, I added each user and manually assigned them the 
uid/gid from the other server,

This way when I overlay the data from the other system, everything works as 
planned (at least I keep telling
Myself that).

George

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On 09/10/13 16:59, George Gallen wrote:
> No, it's not - it's a 0.
> 
> But...I didn't have it set to 1 on the old server either, and it worked.
> 
> If I change it.I assume I would need to bring UV down and restart?
> 
> What I essentially do is I backup the /uv directory on the old system,
> Did a fresh install of UV on the new server, then overwrite the /uv directory
>>From the old system 

Are your user numbers the same on the new system as the old - check who
owns the files by listing them on the machine the disk is physically in.

Cheers,
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Re: [U2] UV and Mount -t CIFS

2013-10-09 Thread Wols Lists 
On 09/10/13 16:59, George Gallen wrote:
> No, it's not - it's a 0.
> 
> But...I didn't have it set to 1 on the old server either, and it worked.
> 
> If I change it.I assume I would need to bring UV down and restart?
> 
> What I essentially do is I backup the /uv directory on the old system,
> Did a fresh install of UV on the new server, then overwrite the /uv directory
>>From the old system 

Are your user numbers the same on the new system as the old - check who
owns the files by listing them on the machine the disk is physically in.

Cheers,
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Re: [U2] UV and Mount -t CIFS

2013-10-09 Thread George Gallen 
No that was the first thing I disabled!

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Is SELINUX enabled?  That's caused me headaches in the past.

bob little
applications architect
independent contractor
market america, inc.
1302 pleasant ridge rd.
greensboro, nc  27409
Phone: 336-698-4367
Cell: 248-675-5515
Skype: boblittle904



From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] on behalf of George Gallen 
[ggal...@wyanokegroup.com]
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Thanks...

I tried all the variations of sec - most mounted - some failed - but none 
allowed UV to LIST the directory
I also added ver=1.0

I may need to setup a ftp server on the printwizard machine, and work around 
that way until I figure it out.

We will be upgrading the RHEL5 to RHEL6 once our server issues are fixed - so 
maybe RHEL6 will be ok (or not)
Found a bunch of things different from RHEL5 to Fedora19  (switches in ftp, 
mailx and attachments and
Few others I forget at the moment).

George

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I had to add the sec=ntlm to the line in my /etc/fstab since about FC18 or so:

//shareName   mountPointcifs
rw,credentials=.myCredentials,_netdev,sec=ntlm,users,nounix,nosetuids,file_mode=0644,dir_mode=0775
   0 0

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Cell: 248-675-5515
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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] on behalf of George Gallen 
[ggal...@wyanokegroup.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 10:16 AM
To: U2 Users
Subject: [U2] UV and Mount -t CIFS

Ok...

When I had RHEL5 and UV 10.0.2 running, If I did a mount using type cifs
   All I needed to do in UV was <1>F , <2>/mnt/mountname, <3>D_SOURCE

And I could list the directory, no problem.


Due to a server issue, we had to put an emergency server in place that is
Running Fedora19 (64 bit) and installed the UV 10.0.2 - which appears to
Run fine.

EXCEPT - when I mount the share

Now when I attempt to LIST the File (or OPENPATH /mnt/sharename) it bombs out
Gives me "Unable to open -filename-"

I can as non-root, go into this share, create files, delete files and modify 
files so it
Also works as root.

So, I'm not sure if this is a UV related issue or a Fedora19/Windows machine 
share problem.

Any ideas?

I'm currently doing:
mount -t cifs -o rw,username=windowsloginname 
"//Sharename",file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777,cifsacl /mnt/printwizard

What we do is use lpd to print our PCL to printwizard (which works)
Printwizard then produces a PDF (which works)
Then we read the PDF from the share on the printwizard machine (which is what 
is not working).
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Re: [U2] UV and Mount -t CIFS

2013-10-09 Thread Bob Little 
Is SELINUX enabled?  That's caused me headaches in the past.

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independent contractor
market america, inc.
1302 pleasant ridge rd.
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Phone: 336-698-4367
Cell: 248-675-5515
Skype: boblittle904



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Subject: Re: [U2] UV and Mount -t CIFS

Thanks...

I tried all the variations of sec - most mounted - some failed - but none 
allowed UV to LIST the directory
I also added ver=1.0

I may need to setup a ftp server on the printwizard machine, and work around 
that way until I figure it out.

We will be upgrading the RHEL5 to RHEL6 once our server issues are fixed - so 
maybe RHEL6 will be ok (or not)
Found a bunch of things different from RHEL5 to Fedora19  (switches in ftp, 
mailx and attachments and
Few others I forget at the moment).

George

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bob Little
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 10:31 AM
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Subject: Re: [U2] UV and Mount -t CIFS

I had to add the sec=ntlm to the line in my /etc/fstab since about FC18 or so:

//shareName   mountPointcifs
rw,credentials=.myCredentials,_netdev,sec=ntlm,users,nounix,nosetuids,file_mode=0644,dir_mode=0775
   0 0

bob little
applications architect
independent contractor
market america, inc.
1302 pleasant ridge rd.
greensboro, nc  27409
Phone: 336-698-4367
Cell: 248-675-5515
Skype: boblittle904



From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] on behalf of George Gallen 
[ggal...@wyanokegroup.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 10:16 AM
To: U2 Users
Subject: [U2] UV and Mount -t CIFS

Ok...

When I had RHEL5 and UV 10.0.2 running, If I did a mount using type cifs
   All I needed to do in UV was <1>F , <2>/mnt/mountname, <3>D_SOURCE

And I could list the directory, no problem.


Due to a server issue, we had to put an emergency server in place that is
Running Fedora19 (64 bit) and installed the UV 10.0.2 - which appears to
Run fine.

EXCEPT - when I mount the share

Now when I attempt to LIST the File (or OPENPATH /mnt/sharename) it bombs out
Gives me "Unable to open -filename-"

I can as non-root, go into this share, create files, delete files and modify 
files so it
Also works as root.

So, I'm not sure if this is a UV related issue or a Fedora19/Windows machine 
share problem.

Any ideas?

I'm currently doing:
mount -t cifs -o rw,username=windowsloginname 
"//Sharename",file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777,cifsacl /mnt/printwizard

What we do is use lpd to print our PCL to printwizard (which works)
Printwizard then produces a PDF (which works)
Then we read the PDF from the share on the printwizard machine (which is what 
is not working).
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Re: [U2] UV and Mount -t CIFS

2013-10-09 Thread George Gallen 
Thanks...

I tried all the variations of sec - most mounted - some failed - but none 
allowed UV to LIST the directory
I also added ver=1.0

I may need to setup a ftp server on the printwizard machine, and work around 
that way until I figure it out.

We will be upgrading the RHEL5 to RHEL6 once our server issues are fixed - so 
maybe RHEL6 will be ok (or not)
Found a bunch of things different from RHEL5 to Fedora19  (switches in ftp, 
mailx and attachments and
Few others I forget at the moment).

George

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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bob Little
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 10:31 AM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] UV and Mount -t CIFS

I had to add the sec=ntlm to the line in my /etc/fstab since about FC18 or so:

//shareName   mountPointcifs
rw,credentials=.myCredentials,_netdev,sec=ntlm,users,nounix,nosetuids,file_mode=0644,dir_mode=0775
   0 0

bob little
applications architect
independent contractor
market america, inc.
1302 pleasant ridge rd.
greensboro, nc  27409
Phone: 336-698-4367
Cell: 248-675-5515
Skype: boblittle904



From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] on behalf of George Gallen 
[ggal...@wyanokegroup.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 10:16 AM
To: U2 Users
Subject: [U2] UV and Mount -t CIFS

Ok...

When I had RHEL5 and UV 10.0.2 running, If I did a mount using type cifs
   All I needed to do in UV was <1>F , <2>/mnt/mountname, <3>D_SOURCE

And I could list the directory, no problem.


Due to a server issue, we had to put an emergency server in place that is
Running Fedora19 (64 bit) and installed the UV 10.0.2 - which appears to
Run fine.

EXCEPT - when I mount the share

Now when I attempt to LIST the File (or OPENPATH /mnt/sharename) it bombs out
Gives me "Unable to open -filename-"

I can as non-root, go into this share, create files, delete files and modify 
files so it
Also works as root.

So, I'm not sure if this is a UV related issue or a Fedora19/Windows machine 
share problem.

Any ideas?

I'm currently doing:
mount -t cifs -o rw,username=windowsloginname 
"//Sharename",file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777,cifsacl /mnt/printwizard

What we do is use lpd to print our PCL to printwizard (which works)
Printwizard then produces a PDF (which works)
Then we read the PDF from the share on the printwizard machine (which is what 
is not working).
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Re: [U2] UV and Mount -t CIFS

2013-10-09 Thread George Gallen 
No, it's not - it's a 0.

But...I didn't have it set to 1 on the old server either, and it worked.

If I change it.I assume I would need to bring UV down and restart?

What I essentially do is I backup the /uv directory on the old system,
Did a fresh install of UV on the new server, then overwrite the /uv directory
>From the old system 

It's worked fine in the past - and UV seems to be running healthy on F19

For now, I'm going to use an ftp workaround - I can't bring down UV at the 
moment.

George


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Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 11:46 AM
To: 'U2 Users List'
Subject: Re: [U2] UV and Mount -t CIFS

Have you got the ALLOWNFS setting in your uvconfig set to 1 ?

Brian

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Sent: 09 October 2013 15:16
To: U2 Users
Subject: [U2] UV and Mount -t CIFS

Ok...

When I had RHEL5 and UV 10.0.2 running, If I did a mount using type cifs
   All I needed to do in UV was <1>F , <2>/mnt/mountname, <3>D_SOURCE

And I could list the directory, no problem.


Due to a server issue, we had to put an emergency server in place that is
Running Fedora19 (64 bit) and installed the UV 10.0.2 - which appears to Run
fine.

EXCEPT - when I mount the share

Now when I attempt to LIST the File (or OPENPATH /mnt/sharename) it bombs
out Gives me "Unable to open -filename-"

I can as non-root, go into this share, create files, delete files and modify
files so it Also works as root.

So, I'm not sure if this is a UV related issue or a Fedora19/Windows machine
share problem.

Any ideas?

I'm currently doing:
mount -t cifs -o rw,username=windowsloginname
"//Sharename",file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777,cifsacl /mnt/printwizard

What we do is use lpd to print our PCL to printwizard (which works)
Printwizard then produces a PDF (which works) Then we read the PDF from the
share on the printwizard machine (which is what is not working).
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Re: [U2] UV and Mount -t CIFS

2013-10-09 Thread Brian Leach 
Have you got the ALLOWNFS setting in your uvconfig set to 1 ?

Brian

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Sent: 09 October 2013 15:16
To: U2 Users
Subject: [U2] UV and Mount -t CIFS

Ok...

When I had RHEL5 and UV 10.0.2 running, If I did a mount using type cifs
   All I needed to do in UV was <1>F , <2>/mnt/mountname, <3>D_SOURCE

And I could list the directory, no problem.


Due to a server issue, we had to put an emergency server in place that is
Running Fedora19 (64 bit) and installed the UV 10.0.2 - which appears to Run
fine.

EXCEPT - when I mount the share

Now when I attempt to LIST the File (or OPENPATH /mnt/sharename) it bombs
out Gives me "Unable to open -filename-"

I can as non-root, go into this share, create files, delete files and modify
files so it Also works as root.

So, I'm not sure if this is a UV related issue or a Fedora19/Windows machine
share problem.

Any ideas?

I'm currently doing:
mount -t cifs -o rw,username=windowsloginname
"//Sharename",file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777,cifsacl /mnt/printwizard

What we do is use lpd to print our PCL to printwizard (which works)
Printwizard then produces a PDF (which works) Then we read the PDF from the
share on the printwizard machine (which is what is not working).
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Re: [U2] UV and Mount -t CIFS

2013-10-09 Thread Bob Little 
I had to add the sec=ntlm to the line in my /etc/fstab since about FC18 or so:

//shareName   mountPointcifs
rw,credentials=.myCredentials,_netdev,sec=ntlm,users,nounix,nosetuids,file_mode=0644,dir_mode=0775
   0 0

bob little
applications architect
independent contractor
market america, inc.
1302 pleasant ridge rd.
greensboro, nc  27409
Phone: 336-698-4367
Cell: 248-675-5515
Skype: boblittle904



From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] on behalf of George Gallen 
[ggal...@wyanokegroup.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 10:16 AM
To: U2 Users
Subject: [U2] UV and Mount -t CIFS

Ok...

When I had RHEL5 and UV 10.0.2 running, If I did a mount using type cifs
   All I needed to do in UV was <1>F , <2>/mnt/mountname, <3>D_SOURCE

And I could list the directory, no problem.


Due to a server issue, we had to put an emergency server in place that is
Running Fedora19 (64 bit) and installed the UV 10.0.2 - which appears to
Run fine.

EXCEPT - when I mount the share

Now when I attempt to LIST the File (or OPENPATH /mnt/sharename) it bombs out
Gives me "Unable to open -filename-"

I can as non-root, go into this share, create files, delete files and modify 
files so it
Also works as root.

So, I'm not sure if this is a UV related issue or a Fedora19/Windows machine 
share problem.

Any ideas?

I'm currently doing:
mount -t cifs -o rw,username=windowsloginname 
"//Sharename",file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777,cifsacl /mnt/printwizard

What we do is use lpd to print our PCL to printwizard (which works)
Printwizard then produces a PDF (which works)
Then we read the PDF from the share on the printwizard machine (which is what 
is not working).
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[U2] UV and Mount -t CIFS

2013-10-09 Thread George Gallen 
Ok...

When I had RHEL5 and UV 10.0.2 running, If I did a mount using type cifs
   All I needed to do in UV was <1>F , <2>/mnt/mountname, <3>D_SOURCE

And I could list the directory, no problem.


Due to a server issue, we had to put an emergency server in place that is
Running Fedora19 (64 bit) and installed the UV 10.0.2 - which appears to
Run fine.

EXCEPT - when I mount the share

Now when I attempt to LIST the File (or OPENPATH /mnt/sharename) it bombs out
Gives me "Unable to open -filename-"

I can as non-root, go into this share, create files, delete files and modify 
files so it
Also works as root.

So, I'm not sure if this is a UV related issue or a Fedora19/Windows machine 
share problem.

Any ideas?

I'm currently doing:
mount -t cifs -o rw,username=windowsloginname 
"//Sharename",file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777,cifsacl /mnt/printwizard

What we do is use lpd to print our PCL to printwizard (which works)
Printwizard then produces a PDF (which works)
Then we read the PDF from the share on the printwizard machine (which is what 
is not working).
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Re: [U2] [OT] Interview Questions

2013-10-09 Thread Brian Leach 
Kevin

I remember a long time back working for a consultancy in Oxford we had long
and ineffective interview processes.
Then we took on a client that was an institute of personnel directors, and
found they published some very good materials on how to conduct interviews. 

The main lesson was to have a very clear set of goals and criteria drawn up
and agreed before you go in, and a clear way to assess against that. Sounds
obvious, but we weren't doing that. 

When we did it was much easier to decide whether they had demonstrated that
they had met those criteria and we could be more analytical especially at
the first interview stage.

That was more valuable than trying to come up with clever questions.

Technical assessment is a different story. For that, a clear task to perform
with measurable criteria for correctness.

Brian





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Re: [U2] uvbackup and uvrestore

2013-10-09 Thread Manu Fernandes 
Hi Anna,


UVBACKUP will read uvfiles's records one by one and push it into a "device" or 
stdout.
Your command do not create a backup, it performs a integrity control of uv 
files.

Details of your options :
-v = verbose
-f = full (not incremental)
-notag = do not switch the uvbackup flag of records
-l = label of the job is Co %DAY %
-cmdfil = do the job for uvfiles listed into %Pdir%\bin\COPY\list _ % SAVE %.txt
-s = log the verbosity into  %Pdir %\bin\COPY\LOG _ % SAVE %.txt
-t = sent the data into the device named "nul" . (do nothing)
2> nul = echo the errors to 2nul" (do nothing)


The good command to perform a uvrestore'able uvbackup must be :

 uvbackup -v -f -notag -cmdfil %Pdir%\bin\COPY\list _ %SAVE%.txt -s 
%Pdir%\bin\COPY\LOG _ %SAVE%.txt -l " Co %DAY% " > %Pdir%\bin\COPY\list _ 
%SAVE%.uvb 

Then you'll receive files 
%Pdir%\bin\COPY\%SAVE%.uvb recoverable with uvbackup
%Pdir%\bin\COPY\LOG _ %SAVE%.txt where you can read the log of uvbackup

I hope this help.
manu

> -Message d'origine-
> De : u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-
> boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] De la part de Anna
> Envoyé : lundi 7 octobre 2013 22:56
> À : u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Objet : [U2] uvbackup and uvrestore
> 
> Hi, I am new here,
> 
> abouts between one of my new tasks it is to take charge of a computer with
> Universe, with Open Suse, that I leave another company of service.
> Of universe do not know anything, for what I have seen at least safety copies
> are done in a file copia.bk. I have not even idea if other day I have to 
> restore
> the safety copy, someone can help me. The command that does the copy is this:
> 
> %uvdir %\bin\UVBACKUP-v-f-notag-l " Co %DAY % "-cmdfil %Pdir
> %\bin\COPY\list _ % SAVE %.txt-s %Pdir %\bin\COPY\LOG _ % SAVE %.txt-t nul
> 2> nul
> 
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