Re: [U2] Red Hat Enterprise Linux 64 bit and Universe 11.1.4 - Experiences?

2011-09-02 Thread John Thompson
I believe with EXT4, JFS, or XFS filesystems you can expand them only -
while it is mounted.

However if you are running RHEL 5 with EXT3, then you have to unmount the
partition before you expand.  JFS is of course what AIX uses.  You can use
JFS in Linux, if you set your filesystems up that way originally.

I also assume you are using LVM along with a filesystem to manage things...

See these notes:

http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/LVM
http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/extendlv.html
http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Storage_Administration_Guide/ext4grow.html

By the way, I've always thought Gentoo and Ubuntu had great documentation.
 Red Hat is getting better...

In this case, the filesystem and lvm2 utilities should be 99% the same
across all Linux distro's, so you can find out what you need to know on
Gentoo or Ubuntu docs, even though its RHEL.  That is not always the case...

As far as the cost goes... you are probably right, since, I don't have the
guts to not pay for Linux support and just download CentOS.
http://www.centos.org/

However, for us, its more a matter of flexibility and standardization.  I
have Linux machines (mainly Ubuntu) doing critical business functions
already, and if I can have one less operating system to worry about, thats
less headache for me.

Plus its way cheaper for me to set up a development machine on the fly on my
workstation using CentOS.  Its nigh impossible to do that with AIX.

AIX is great, until you need to use an open source piece of software, then
things get tricky.

The best answer I found to that problem was this:

http://pware.hvcc.edu/

But its maintained by a fellow at a college university, and if he ever gets
sick of doing that... then I'm stuck with going through rpm hell.

We have a pretty barebones AIX setup with zero LPAR's and local disk on one
P550.
So yeah I agree, on paper the cost is almost a wash, but, for us its all of
the costs that I can't really show on paper very well...


On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:48 PM, Dan Fitzgerald dangf...@hotmail.comwrote:


 I work with both RHEL  AIX, and I'm not sure that you save a whole bunch
 of money by going Linux anymore. I won't p0ut [AD/} in here, because I'm not
 a vendor, nor do I have a business relationship with one (anymore). But I
 was recently investigating making this same move, and my IBM vendor proposed
 replacing my 2 p570's (4 LPARS each) with a Blade H center, populated with 2
 PS701 Blades, for a little under $75K, including 3-year hardwarew warranty 
 3 year AIX software 24x7 4Hr onsite maintenance. Additional Power blades
 were $14K, but wintel blades could be had for about $7K each, fitting in the
 same enclosure. Membership for a comparable RH installation over 3 years
 was about that same $75K, before you even buy hardware. Of course, you can
 go without software support on linux, but you'd better be very good at it,
 especially if your implementation is at all non-standard (um, U2).

 I also note that one of the most common sysadmin procedures I execute is
 expanding file systems as data footprints grow. On AIX, I allocate the
 storage, do a cfgmgr, then issue the appropriate chfs command. In Linux, to
 expand a file system means taking the volume offline: downtime. P.S.: If I'm
 wrong about that, please tell me how to do it, thanks.

  Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 00:28:57 +0200
  From: u...@glennsallis.de
  To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
  Subject: Re: [U2] Red Hat Enterprise Linux 64 bit and Universe 11.1.4 -
 Experiences?
 
  Hi John,
 
  I think you will find it to be a positive move, both technically and
  financially!
 
  Recently I have done a fair bit of testing for a customer who are going
  to be migrating to 64 Bit Red Hat from a non-AIX variant of Unix and I
  cannot say I stumbled across any big issues. I was using previous
  versions of 11.1 for the tests.
 
  Do plenty of trials and tests to identify any potential issues, and I am
  pretty confident you will report back with positive news.
 
  Regards
  Glenn
 
 
 
  Am 02.09.2011 00:02, schrieb John Thompson:
   I'm looking to migrate from AIX 5.3 to RHEL.  Basically because IBM is
   putting the hatchet to regular support on AIX 5.3 in May 2012.
  
   Has anyone had any experiences/challenges running Universe 11.1.4 on
 Red Hat
   Enterprise 6 - 64bit?
  
   I'm guessing I may get crickets on this one, since accroding to U2
   Techconnect, 11.1.4 has only been out about a week...
  
   https://u2tc.rocketsoftware.com/buildmatrix.asp
  
   Kudos to Rocket for getting it to run on RHEL 6.
  
   I'm just scared if I go with RHEL 5, then I'll be in the obsolescence
 boat
   two years from now.
  
 
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Re: [U2] Red Hat Enterprise Linux 64 bit and Universe 11.1.4 - Experiences?

2011-09-02 Thread Michael Pflugfelder
With RedHat 5, LVM  EXT3 filesystems, you can do online resizing.

First, you need to increase the size of the logical volume with lvextend.
Then you need to resize the filesystem with resize2fs.

I did it a few weeks ago on a virtual machine without users noticing any 
difference.



-Original Message-
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of John Thompson
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 9:34 AM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] Red Hat Enterprise Linux 64 bit and Universe 11.1.4 - 
Experiences?

I believe with EXT4, JFS, or XFS filesystems you can expand them only - while 
it is mounted.

However if you are running RHEL 5 with EXT3, then you have to unmount the 
partition before you expand.  JFS is of course what AIX uses.  You can use JFS 
in Linux, if you set your filesystems up that way originally.

I also assume you are using LVM along with a filesystem to manage things...

See these notes:

http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/LVM
http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/extendlv.html
http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Storage_Administration_Guide/ext4grow.html

By the way, I've always thought Gentoo and Ubuntu had great documentation.
 Red Hat is getting better...

In this case, the filesystem and lvm2 utilities should be 99% the same across 
all Linux distro's, so you can find out what you need to know on Gentoo or 
Ubuntu docs, even though its RHEL.  That is not always the case...

As far as the cost goes... you are probably right, since, I don't have the guts 
to not pay for Linux support and just download CentOS.
http://www.centos.org/

However, for us, its more a matter of flexibility and standardization.  I have 
Linux machines (mainly Ubuntu) doing critical business functions already, and 
if I can have one less operating system to worry about, thats less headache for 
me.

Plus its way cheaper for me to set up a development machine on the fly on my 
workstation using CentOS.  Its nigh impossible to do that with AIX.

AIX is great, until you need to use an open source piece of software, then 
things get tricky.

The best answer I found to that problem was this:

http://pware.hvcc.edu/

But its maintained by a fellow at a college university, and if he ever gets 
sick of doing that... then I'm stuck with going through rpm hell.

We have a pretty barebones AIX setup with zero LPAR's and local disk on one 
P550.
So yeah I agree, on paper the cost is almost a wash, but, for us its all of the 
costs that I can't really show on paper very well...


On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:48 PM, Dan Fitzgerald dangf...@hotmail.comwrote:


 I work with both RHEL  AIX, and I'm not sure that you save a whole 
 bunch of money by going Linux anymore. I won't p0ut [AD/} in here, 
 because I'm not a vendor, nor do I have a business relationship with 
 one (anymore). But I was recently investigating making this same move, 
 and my IBM vendor proposed replacing my 2 p570's (4 LPARS each) with a 
 Blade H center, populated with 2
 PS701 Blades, for a little under $75K, including 3-year hardwarew 
 warranty 
 3 year AIX software 24x7 4Hr onsite maintenance. Additional Power 
 blades were $14K, but wintel blades could be had for about $7K each, 
 fitting in the same enclosure. Membership for a comparable RH 
 installation over 3 years was about that same $75K, before you even 
 buy hardware. Of course, you can go without software support on linux, 
 but you'd better be very good at it, especially if your implementation is at 
 all non-standard (um, U2).

 I also note that one of the most common sysadmin procedures I execute 
 is expanding file systems as data footprints grow. On AIX, I allocate 
 the storage, do a cfgmgr, then issue the appropriate chfs command. In 
 Linux, to expand a file system means taking the volume offline: 
 downtime. P.S.: If I'm wrong about that, please tell me how to do it, thanks.

  Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 00:28:57 +0200
  From: u...@glennsallis.de
  To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
  Subject: Re: [U2] Red Hat Enterprise Linux 64 bit and Universe 
  11.1.4 -
 Experiences?
 
  Hi John,
 
  I think you will find it to be a positive move, both technically and 
  financially!
 
  Recently I have done a fair bit of testing for a customer who are 
  going to be migrating to 64 Bit Red Hat from a non-AIX variant of 
  Unix and I cannot say I stumbled across any big issues. I was using 
  previous versions of 11.1 for the tests.
 
  Do plenty of trials and tests to identify any potential issues, and 
  I am pretty confident you will report back with positive news.
 
  Regards
  Glenn
 
 
 
  Am 02.09.2011 00:02, schrieb John Thompson:
   I'm looking to migrate from AIX 5.3 to RHEL.  Basically because 
   IBM is putting the hatchet to regular support on AIX 5.3 in May 2012.
  
   Has anyone had any experiences/challenges running Universe 11.1.4 
   on
 Red Hat
   Enterprise 6 - 64bit?
  
   I'm guessing I may get

Re: [U2] Red Hat Enterprise Linux 64 bit and Universe 11.1.4 - Experiences?

2011-09-02 Thread John Thompson
Well there ya go.  I stand corrected.  I was probably getting confused with
shrinking vs. extending.  I think to shrink you have to unmount.

My mistake.

On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Michael Pflugfelder mpflugfel...@ratex.com
 wrote:

 With RedHat 5, LVM  EXT3 filesystems, you can do online resizing.

 First, you need to increase the size of the logical volume with lvextend.
 Then you need to resize the filesystem with resize2fs.

 I did it a few weeks ago on a virtual machine without users noticing any
 difference.



 -Original Message-
 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:
 u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of John Thompson
 Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 9:34 AM
 To: U2 Users List
 Subject: Re: [U2] Red Hat Enterprise Linux 64 bit and Universe 11.1.4 -
 Experiences?

 I believe with EXT4, JFS, or XFS filesystems you can expand them only -
 while it is mounted.

 However if you are running RHEL 5 with EXT3, then you have to unmount the
 partition before you expand.  JFS is of course what AIX uses.  You can use
 JFS in Linux, if you set your filesystems up that way originally.

 I also assume you are using LVM along with a filesystem to manage things...

 See these notes:

 http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/LVM
 http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/extendlv.html

 http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Storage_Administration_Guide/ext4grow.html

 By the way, I've always thought Gentoo and Ubuntu had great documentation.
  Red Hat is getting better...

 In this case, the filesystem and lvm2 utilities should be 99% the same
 across all Linux distro's, so you can find out what you need to know on
 Gentoo or Ubuntu docs, even though its RHEL.  That is not always the case...

 As far as the cost goes... you are probably right, since, I don't have the
 guts to not pay for Linux support and just download CentOS.
 http://www.centos.org/

 However, for us, its more a matter of flexibility and standardization.  I
 have Linux machines (mainly Ubuntu) doing critical business functions
 already, and if I can have one less operating system to worry about, thats
 less headache for me.

 Plus its way cheaper for me to set up a development machine on the fly on
 my workstation using CentOS.  Its nigh impossible to do that with AIX.

 AIX is great, until you need to use an open source piece of software, then
 things get tricky.

 The best answer I found to that problem was this:

 http://pware.hvcc.edu/

 But its maintained by a fellow at a college university, and if he ever gets
 sick of doing that... then I'm stuck with going through rpm hell.

 We have a pretty barebones AIX setup with zero LPAR's and local disk on one
 P550.
 So yeah I agree, on paper the cost is almost a wash, but, for us its all of
 the costs that I can't really show on paper very well...


 On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:48 PM, Dan Fitzgerald dangf...@hotmail.com
 wrote:

 
  I work with both RHEL  AIX, and I'm not sure that you save a whole
  bunch of money by going Linux anymore. I won't p0ut [AD/} in here,
  because I'm not a vendor, nor do I have a business relationship with
  one (anymore). But I was recently investigating making this same move,
  and my IBM vendor proposed replacing my 2 p570's (4 LPARS each) with a
  Blade H center, populated with 2
  PS701 Blades, for a little under $75K, including 3-year hardwarew
  warranty 
  3 year AIX software 24x7 4Hr onsite maintenance. Additional Power
  blades were $14K, but wintel blades could be had for about $7K each,
  fitting in the same enclosure. Membership for a comparable RH
  installation over 3 years was about that same $75K, before you even
  buy hardware. Of course, you can go without software support on linux,
  but you'd better be very good at it, especially if your implementation is
 at all non-standard (um, U2).
 
  I also note that one of the most common sysadmin procedures I execute
  is expanding file systems as data footprints grow. On AIX, I allocate
  the storage, do a cfgmgr, then issue the appropriate chfs command. In
  Linux, to expand a file system means taking the volume offline:
  downtime. P.S.: If I'm wrong about that, please tell me how to do it,
 thanks.
 
   Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 00:28:57 +0200
   From: u...@glennsallis.de
   To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
   Subject: Re: [U2] Red Hat Enterprise Linux 64 bit and Universe
   11.1.4 -
  Experiences?
  
   Hi John,
  
   I think you will find it to be a positive move, both technically and
   financially!
  
   Recently I have done a fair bit of testing for a customer who are
   going to be migrating to 64 Bit Red Hat from a non-AIX variant of
   Unix and I cannot say I stumbled across any big issues. I was using
   previous versions of 11.1 for the tests.
  
   Do plenty of trials and tests to identify any potential issues, and
   I am pretty confident you will report back with positive news.
  
   Regards
   Glenn
  
  
  
   Am 02.09.2011 00:02

Re: [U2] Red Hat Enterprise Linux 64 bit and Universe 11.1.4 - Experiences?

2011-09-02 Thread John Thompson
Thanks for pointing that out.  I've dealt with too many filesystems over the
years, and they are all starting to blur together :(

On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 12:37 PM, John Thompson jthompson...@gmail.comwrote:

 Well there ya go.  I stand corrected.  I was probably getting confused with
 shrinking vs. extending.  I think to shrink you have to unmount.

 My mistake.


 On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Michael Pflugfelder 
 mpflugfel...@ratex.com wrote:

 With RedHat 5, LVM  EXT3 filesystems, you can do online resizing.

 First, you need to increase the size of the logical volume with
 lvextend.
 Then you need to resize the filesystem with resize2fs.

 I did it a few weeks ago on a virtual machine without users noticing any
 difference.



 -Original Message-
 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:
 u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of John Thompson
 Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 9:34 AM
 To: U2 Users List
 Subject: Re: [U2] Red Hat Enterprise Linux 64 bit and Universe 11.1.4 -
 Experiences?

 I believe with EXT4, JFS, or XFS filesystems you can expand them only -
 while it is mounted.

 However if you are running RHEL 5 with EXT3, then you have to unmount the
 partition before you expand.  JFS is of course what AIX uses.  You can use
 JFS in Linux, if you set your filesystems up that way originally.

 I also assume you are using LVM along with a filesystem to manage
 things...

 See these notes:

 http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/LVM
 http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/extendlv.html

 http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Storage_Administration_Guide/ext4grow.html

 By the way, I've always thought Gentoo and Ubuntu had great documentation.
  Red Hat is getting better...

 In this case, the filesystem and lvm2 utilities should be 99% the same
 across all Linux distro's, so you can find out what you need to know on
 Gentoo or Ubuntu docs, even though its RHEL.  That is not always the case...

 As far as the cost goes... you are probably right, since, I don't have the
 guts to not pay for Linux support and just download CentOS.
 http://www.centos.org/

 However, for us, its more a matter of flexibility and standardization.  I
 have Linux machines (mainly Ubuntu) doing critical business functions
 already, and if I can have one less operating system to worry about, thats
 less headache for me.

 Plus its way cheaper for me to set up a development machine on the fly on
 my workstation using CentOS.  Its nigh impossible to do that with AIX.

 AIX is great, until you need to use an open source piece of software, then
 things get tricky.

 The best answer I found to that problem was this:

 http://pware.hvcc.edu/

 But its maintained by a fellow at a college university, and if he ever
 gets sick of doing that... then I'm stuck with going through rpm hell.

 We have a pretty barebones AIX setup with zero LPAR's and local disk on
 one P550.
 So yeah I agree, on paper the cost is almost a wash, but, for us its all
 of the costs that I can't really show on paper very well...


 On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:48 PM, Dan Fitzgerald dangf...@hotmail.com
 wrote:

 
  I work with both RHEL  AIX, and I'm not sure that you save a whole
  bunch of money by going Linux anymore. I won't p0ut [AD/} in here,
  because I'm not a vendor, nor do I have a business relationship with
  one (anymore). But I was recently investigating making this same move,
  and my IBM vendor proposed replacing my 2 p570's (4 LPARS each) with a
  Blade H center, populated with 2
  PS701 Blades, for a little under $75K, including 3-year hardwarew
  warranty 
  3 year AIX software 24x7 4Hr onsite maintenance. Additional Power
  blades were $14K, but wintel blades could be had for about $7K each,
  fitting in the same enclosure. Membership for a comparable RH
  installation over 3 years was about that same $75K, before you even
  buy hardware. Of course, you can go without software support on linux,
  but you'd better be very good at it, especially if your implementation
 is at all non-standard (um, U2).
 
  I also note that one of the most common sysadmin procedures I execute
  is expanding file systems as data footprints grow. On AIX, I allocate
  the storage, do a cfgmgr, then issue the appropriate chfs command. In
  Linux, to expand a file system means taking the volume offline:
  downtime. P.S.: If I'm wrong about that, please tell me how to do it,
 thanks.
 
   Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 00:28:57 +0200
   From: u...@glennsallis.de
   To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
   Subject: Re: [U2] Red Hat Enterprise Linux 64 bit and Universe
   11.1.4 -
  Experiences?
  
   Hi John,
  
   I think you will find it to be a positive move, both technically and
   financially!
  
   Recently I have done a fair bit of testing for a customer who are
   going to be migrating to 64 Bit Red Hat from a non-AIX variant of
   Unix and I cannot say I stumbled across any big issues. I was using
   previous versions of 11.1

Re: [U2] Red Hat Enterprise Linux 64 bit and Universe 11.1.4 - Experiences?

2011-09-02 Thread Dan Fitzgerald

Well, I'm gonna start asking my linux questions HERE. Every linux geek I asked 
said it couldn't be done...
 
 Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 12:37:28 -0400
 From: jthompson...@gmail.com
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: Re: [U2] Red Hat Enterprise Linux 64 bit and Universe 11.1.4 -   
 Experiences?
 
 Well there ya go.  I stand corrected.  I was probably getting confused with
 shrinking vs. extending.  I think to shrink you have to unmount.
 
 My mistake.
 
 On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Michael Pflugfelder mpflugfel...@ratex.com
  wrote:
 
  With RedHat 5, LVM  EXT3 filesystems, you can do online resizing.
 
  First, you need to increase the size of the logical volume with lvextend.
  Then you need to resize the filesystem with resize2fs.
 
  I did it a few weeks ago on a virtual machine without users noticing any
  difference.
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:
  u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of John Thompson
  Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 9:34 AM
  To: U2 Users List
  Subject: Re: [U2] Red Hat Enterprise Linux 64 bit and Universe 11.1.4 -
  Experiences?
 
  I believe with EXT4, JFS, or XFS filesystems you can expand them only -
  while it is mounted.
 
  However if you are running RHEL 5 with EXT3, then you have to unmount the
  partition before you expand.  JFS is of course what AIX uses.  You can use
  JFS in Linux, if you set your filesystems up that way originally.
 
  I also assume you are using LVM along with a filesystem to manage things...
 
  See these notes:
 
  http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/LVM
  http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/extendlv.html
 
  http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Storage_Administration_Guide/ext4grow.html
 
  By the way, I've always thought Gentoo and Ubuntu had great documentation.
   Red Hat is getting better...
 
  In this case, the filesystem and lvm2 utilities should be 99% the same
  across all Linux distro's, so you can find out what you need to know on
  Gentoo or Ubuntu docs, even though its RHEL.  That is not always the case...
 
  As far as the cost goes... you are probably right, since, I don't have the
  guts to not pay for Linux support and just download CentOS.
  http://www.centos.org/
 
  However, for us, its more a matter of flexibility and standardization.  I
  have Linux machines (mainly Ubuntu) doing critical business functions
  already, and if I can have one less operating system to worry about, thats
  less headache for me.
 
  Plus its way cheaper for me to set up a development machine on the fly on
  my workstation using CentOS.  Its nigh impossible to do that with AIX.
 
  AIX is great, until you need to use an open source piece of software, then
  things get tricky.
 
  The best answer I found to that problem was this:
 
  http://pware.hvcc.edu/
 
  But its maintained by a fellow at a college university, and if he ever gets
  sick of doing that... then I'm stuck with going through rpm hell.
 
  We have a pretty barebones AIX setup with zero LPAR's and local disk on one
  P550.
  So yeah I agree, on paper the cost is almost a wash, but, for us its all of
  the costs that I can't really show on paper very well...
 
 
  On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:48 PM, Dan Fitzgerald dangf...@hotmail.com
  wrote:
 
  
   I work with both RHEL  AIX, and I'm not sure that you save a whole
   bunch of money by going Linux anymore. I won't p0ut [AD/} in here,
   because I'm not a vendor, nor do I have a business relationship with
   one (anymore). But I was recently investigating making this same move,
   and my IBM vendor proposed replacing my 2 p570's (4 LPARS each) with a
   Blade H center, populated with 2
   PS701 Blades, for a little under $75K, including 3-year hardwarew
   warranty 
   3 year AIX software 24x7 4Hr onsite maintenance. Additional Power
   blades were $14K, but wintel blades could be had for about $7K each,
   fitting in the same enclosure. Membership for a comparable RH
   installation over 3 years was about that same $75K, before you even
   buy hardware. Of course, you can go without software support on linux,
   but you'd better be very good at it, especially if your implementation is
  at all non-standard (um, U2).
  
   I also note that one of the most common sysadmin procedures I execute
   is expanding file systems as data footprints grow. On AIX, I allocate
   the storage, do a cfgmgr, then issue the appropriate chfs command. In
   Linux, to expand a file system means taking the volume offline:
   downtime. P.S.: If I'm wrong about that, please tell me how to do it,
  thanks.
  
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 00:28:57 +0200
From: u...@glennsallis.de
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] Red Hat Enterprise Linux 64 bit and Universe
11.1.4 -
   Experiences?
   
Hi John,
   
I think you will find it to be a positive move, both technically and
financially!
   
Recently I have done

[U2] Red Hat Enterprise Linux 64 bit and Universe 11.1.4 - Experiences?

2011-09-01 Thread John Thompson
I'm looking to migrate from AIX 5.3 to RHEL.  Basically because IBM is
putting the hatchet to regular support on AIX 5.3 in May 2012.

Has anyone had any experiences/challenges running Universe 11.1.4 on Red Hat
Enterprise 6 - 64bit?

I'm guessing I may get crickets on this one, since accroding to U2
Techconnect, 11.1.4 has only been out about a week...

https://u2tc.rocketsoftware.com/buildmatrix.asp

Kudos to Rocket for getting it to run on RHEL 6.

I'm just scared if I go with RHEL 5, then I'll be in the obsolescence boat
two years from now.

-- 
John Thompson
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Re: [U2] Red Hat Enterprise Linux 64 bit and Universe 11.1.4 - Experiences?

2011-09-01 Thread Perry Taylor
I can't speak to 11.1 but we are running 10.2.7 just fine on RHEL 64bit.

Perry

- Original Message -
From: John Thompson [mailto:jthompson...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 06:02 PM
To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] Red Hat Enterprise Linux 64 bit and Universe 11.1.4 - 
Experiences?

I'm looking to migrate from AIX 5.3 to RHEL.  Basically because IBM is
putting the hatchet to regular support on AIX 5.3 in May 2012.

Has anyone had any experiences/challenges running Universe 11.1.4 on Red Hat
Enterprise 6 - 64bit?

I'm guessing I may get crickets on this one, since accroding to U2
Techconnect, 11.1.4 has only been out about a week...

https://u2tc.rocketsoftware.com/buildmatrix.asp

Kudos to Rocket for getting it to run on RHEL 6.

I'm just scared if I go with RHEL 5, then I'll be in the obsolescence boat
two years from now.

-- 
John Thompson
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Re: [U2] Red Hat Enterprise Linux 64 bit and Universe 11.1.4 - Experiences?

2011-09-01 Thread Glenn Sallis

Hi John,

I think you will find it to be a positive move, both technically and 
financially!


Recently I have done a fair bit of testing for a customer who are going 
to be migrating to 64 Bit Red Hat from a non-AIX variant of Unix and I 
cannot say I stumbled across any big issues. I was using previous 
versions of 11.1 for the tests.


Do plenty of trials and tests to identify any potential issues, and I am 
pretty confident you will report back with positive news.


Regards
Glenn



Am 02.09.2011 00:02, schrieb John Thompson:

I'm looking to migrate from AIX 5.3 to RHEL.  Basically because IBM is
putting the hatchet to regular support on AIX 5.3 in May 2012.

Has anyone had any experiences/challenges running Universe 11.1.4 on Red Hat
Enterprise 6 - 64bit?

I'm guessing I may get crickets on this one, since accroding to U2
Techconnect, 11.1.4 has only been out about a week...

https://u2tc.rocketsoftware.com/buildmatrix.asp

Kudos to Rocket for getting it to run on RHEL 6.

I'm just scared if I go with RHEL 5, then I'll be in the obsolescence boat
two years from now.



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Re: [U2] Red Hat Enterprise Linux 64 bit and Universe 11.1.4 - Experiences?

2011-09-01 Thread Dan Fitzgerald

I work with both RHEL  AIX, and I'm not sure that you save a whole bunch of 
money by going Linux anymore. I won't p0ut [AD/} in here, because I'm not a 
vendor, nor do I have a business relationship with one (anymore). But I was 
recently investigating making this same move, and my IBM vendor proposed 
replacing my 2 p570's (4 LPARS each) with a Blade H center, populated with 2 
PS701 Blades, for a little under $75K, including 3-year hardwarew warranty  3 
year AIX software 24x7 4Hr onsite maintenance. Additional Power blades were 
$14K, but wintel blades could be had for about $7K each, fitting in the same 
enclosure. Membership for a comparable RH installation over 3 years was about 
that same $75K, before you even buy hardware. Of course, you can go without 
software support on linux, but you'd better be very good at it, especially if 
your implementation is at all non-standard (um, U2).
 
I also note that one of the most common sysadmin procedures I execute is 
expanding file systems as data footprints grow. On AIX, I allocate the storage, 
do a cfgmgr, then issue the appropriate chfs command. In Linux, to expand a 
file system means taking the volume offline: downtime. P.S.: If I'm wrong about 
that, please tell me how to do it, thanks.
 
 Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 00:28:57 +0200
 From: u...@glennsallis.de
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: Re: [U2] Red Hat Enterprise Linux 64 bit and Universe 11.1.4 -   
 Experiences?
 
 Hi John,
 
 I think you will find it to be a positive move, both technically and 
 financially!
 
 Recently I have done a fair bit of testing for a customer who are going 
 to be migrating to 64 Bit Red Hat from a non-AIX variant of Unix and I 
 cannot say I stumbled across any big issues. I was using previous 
 versions of 11.1 for the tests.
 
 Do plenty of trials and tests to identify any potential issues, and I am 
 pretty confident you will report back with positive news.
 
 Regards
 Glenn
 
 
 
 Am 02.09.2011 00:02, schrieb John Thompson:
  I'm looking to migrate from AIX 5.3 to RHEL.  Basically because IBM is
  putting the hatchet to regular support on AIX 5.3 in May 2012.
 
  Has anyone had any experiences/challenges running Universe 11.1.4 on Red Hat
  Enterprise 6 - 64bit?
 
  I'm guessing I may get crickets on this one, since accroding to U2
  Techconnect, 11.1.4 has only been out about a week...
 
  https://u2tc.rocketsoftware.com/buildmatrix.asp
 
  Kudos to Rocket for getting it to run on RHEL 6.
 
  I'm just scared if I go with RHEL 5, then I'll be in the obsolescence boat
  two years from now.
 
 
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