Re: [U2] Why use U2, was Interesting Article

2011-07-13 Thread Jeff Schasny
It scales well. I benchmarked 20K concurrent users for a wholesale 
distribution application on a single (HP Superdome) server and that was 
10 years ago.


The database structure can be painlessly modified which makes it much 
easier for new applications development. Need a new field, slap it on 
the end of the table and go on with your day, try that with your 
favorite relational environment.


Not so important today as it once was when disk was more expensive,but 
it uses significantly less disk space than a relational database storing 
the equivalent data. This also contributes to needing significantly less 
overall computing power to support X number of users for a given 
application due to more efficient IO, i.e. less disk reads required.


You can use SQL, but you don't have to. This, above all, is the MY most 
significant reason to use U2.


Holt, Jake wrote:

I'm not sure being cheaper than Oracle can really be touted as an advantage, 
there aren't many things out there that are more expensive than oracle =D.  And 
all of those things you just mentioned are also true of many FREE databases, so 
again, why pick U2?

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Subject: Re: [U2] Interesting Article

You may have answered your own question.  Why do YOU like it?

It is easy to develop, quick to code, fairly robust query language, and a lot 
cheaper than the BIG databases (Oracle, DB2, etc).


John Israel
Senior Programmer/Analyst
Dayton Superior Corporation
1125 Byers Road
Miamisburg, OH  45342


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Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 10:26 AM
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Subject: Re: [U2] Interesting Article

I have come to like U2 over the past few years but an honest question:

Why would anyone ever pick U2 beyond familiarity and personal preference?  Can 
anyone think of any situation that another (and in a lot of cases a *far* 
cheaper) database isn't a better fit?

Maybe if U2 had it's own niche like MySQL has with web hosting, there would be 
a market Rocket could focus on ?
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Re: [U2] Why use U2, was Interesting Article

2011-07-13 Thread Rob Sobers
Wait, why can't you add a new column to a table in MySQL or SQL Server?

Putting aside the RDMS arguments, (*apart from familiarity*) why wouldn't
you use something like MongoDB or CouchDB, which are accessible from more
programming environments, over U2?  They offer the same schema flexibility
and disk space benefits you cite with U2 and so much more.

MongoDB, for instance, has built-in mechanisms for auto-sharding,
replication, REST API, full-text index, and I can go on and on.  And it's
FREE! :-)

I can't speak to performance, but I'd love to benchmark MongoDB versus U2.
 Maybe I will.

I know I sound like a MongoDB fanboy, but I think it's a straight-up U2
killer.  I challenge anyone to find an area where U2 beats it.

-Rob

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Jeff Schasny jscha...@gmail.com wrote:

 It scales well. I benchmarked 20K concurrent users for a wholesale
 distribution application on a single (HP Superdome) server and that was 10
 years ago.

 The database structure can be painlessly modified which makes it much
 easier for new applications development. Need a new field, slap it on the
 end of the table and go on with your day, try that with your favorite
 relational environment.

 Not so important today as it once was when disk was more expensive,but it
 uses significantly less disk space than a relational database storing the
 equivalent data. This also contributes to needing significantly less overall
 computing power to support X number of users for a given application due to
 more efficient IO, i.e. less disk reads required.

 You can use SQL, but you don't have to. This, above all, is the MY most
 significant reason to use U2.

 Holt, Jake wrote:

 I'm not sure being cheaper than Oracle can really be touted as an
 advantage, there aren't many things out there that are more expensive than
 oracle =D.  And all of those things you just mentioned are also true of many
 FREE databases, so again, why pick U2?

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 Subject: Re: [U2] Interesting Article

 You may have answered your own question.  Why do YOU like it?

 It is easy to develop, quick to code, fairly robust query language, and a
 lot cheaper than the BIG databases (Oracle, DB2, etc).


 John Israel
 Senior Programmer/Analyst
 Dayton Superior Corporation
 1125 Byers Road
 Miamisburg, OH  45342


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 Why would anyone ever pick U2 beyond familiarity and personal preference?
  Can anyone think of any situation that another (and in a lot of cases a
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Re: [U2] Why use U2, was Interesting Article

2011-07-13 Thread Symeon Breen
I am a bit of a mongo DB fanboy myself, I think regarding performance,
because of its autosharding any large scale application will definitely beat
u2.  Mongo db powers many mainstream enterprise solutions, and high profile
websites, - bit.ly comes to mind, so it certainly has a pedigree as well.

However i am also a u2 fanboy  for many many reasons.



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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Rob Sobers
Sent: 13 July 2011 16:52
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] Why use U2, was Interesting Article

Wait, why can't you add a new column to a table in MySQL or SQL Server?

Putting aside the RDMS arguments, (*apart from familiarity*) why wouldn't
you use something like MongoDB or CouchDB, which are accessible from more
programming environments, over U2?  They offer the same schema flexibility
and disk space benefits you cite with U2 and so much more.

MongoDB, for instance, has built-in mechanisms for auto-sharding,
replication, REST API, full-text index, and I can go on and on.  And it's
FREE! :-)

I can't speak to performance, but I'd love to benchmark MongoDB versus U2.
 Maybe I will.

I know I sound like a MongoDB fanboy, but I think it's a straight-up U2
killer.  I challenge anyone to find an area where U2 beats it.

-Rob

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Jeff Schasny jscha...@gmail.com wrote:

 It scales well. I benchmarked 20K concurrent users for a wholesale
 distribution application on a single (HP Superdome) server and that was 10
 years ago.

 The database structure can be painlessly modified which makes it much
 easier for new applications development. Need a new field, slap it on the
 end of the table and go on with your day, try that with your favorite
 relational environment.

 Not so important today as it once was when disk was more expensive,but it
 uses significantly less disk space than a relational database storing the
 equivalent data. This also contributes to needing significantly less
overall
 computing power to support X number of users for a given application due
to
 more efficient IO, i.e. less disk reads required.

 You can use SQL, but you don't have to. This, above all, is the MY most
 significant reason to use U2.

 Holt, Jake wrote:

 I'm not sure being cheaper than Oracle can really be touted as an
 advantage, there aren't many things out there that are more expensive
than
 oracle =D.  And all of those things you just mentioned are also true of
many
 FREE databases, so again, why pick U2?

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 On Behalf Of Israel, John R.
 Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 9:31 AM
 To: 'U2 Users List'
 Subject: Re: [U2] Interesting Article

 You may have answered your own question.  Why do YOU like it?

 It is easy to develop, quick to code, fairly robust query language, and a
 lot cheaper than the BIG databases (Oracle, DB2, etc).


 John Israel
 Senior Programmer/Analyst
 Dayton Superior Corporation
 1125 Byers Road
 Miamisburg, OH  45342


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 I have come to like U2 over the past few years but an honest question:

 Why would anyone ever pick U2 beyond familiarity and personal preference?
  Can anyone think of any situation that another (and in a lot of cases a
 *far* cheaper) database isn't a better fit?

 Maybe if U2 had it's own niche like MySQL has with web hosting, there
 would be a market Rocket could focus on ?
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Re: [U2] Why use U2, was Interesting Article

2011-07-13 Thread Steve Romanow
Shutterfly also has moved to mongo in production.
On Jul 13, 2011 1:56 PM, Symeon Breen syme...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am a bit of a mongo DB fanboy myself, I think regarding performance,
 because of its autosharding any large scale application will definitely
beat
 u2. Mongo db powers many mainstream enterprise solutions, and high profile
 websites, - bit.ly comes to mind, so it certainly has a pedigree as well.

 However i am also a u2 fanboy for many many reasons.



 -Original Message-
 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
 [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Rob Sobers
 Sent: 13 July 2011 16:52
 To: U2 Users List
 Subject: Re: [U2] Why use U2, was Interesting Article

 Wait, why can't you add a new column to a table in MySQL or SQL Server?

 Putting aside the RDMS arguments, (*apart from familiarity*) why wouldn't
 you use something like MongoDB or CouchDB, which are accessible from more
 programming environments, over U2? They offer the same schema flexibility
 and disk space benefits you cite with U2 and so much more.

 MongoDB, for instance, has built-in mechanisms for auto-sharding,
 replication, REST API, full-text index, and I can go on and on. And it's
 FREE! :-)

 I can't speak to performance, but I'd love to benchmark MongoDB versus U2.
 Maybe I will.

 I know I sound like a MongoDB fanboy, but I think it's a straight-up U2
 killer. I challenge anyone to find an area where U2 beats it.

 -Rob

 On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Jeff Schasny jscha...@gmail.com wrote:

 It scales well. I benchmarked 20K concurrent users for a wholesale
 distribution application on a single (HP Superdome) server and that was
10
 years ago.

 The database structure can be painlessly modified which makes it much
 easier for new applications development. Need a new field, slap it on the
 end of the table and go on with your day, try that with your favorite
 relational environment.

 Not so important today as it once was when disk was more expensive,but it
 uses significantly less disk space than a relational database storing the
 equivalent data. This also contributes to needing significantly less
 overall
 computing power to support X number of users for a given application due
 to
 more efficient IO, i.e. less disk reads required.

 You can use SQL, but you don't have to. This, above all, is the MY most
 significant reason to use U2.

 Holt, Jake wrote:

 I'm not sure being cheaper than Oracle can really be touted as an
 advantage, there aren't many things out there that are more expensive
 than
 oracle =D. And all of those things you just mentioned are also true of
 many
 FREE databases, so again, why pick U2?

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 On Behalf Of Israel, John R.
 Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 9:31 AM
 To: 'U2 Users List'
 Subject: Re: [U2] Interesting Article

 You may have answered your own question. Why do YOU like it?

 It is easy to develop, quick to code, fairly robust query language, and
a
 lot cheaper than the BIG databases (Oracle, DB2, etc).


 John Israel
 Senior Programmer/Analyst
 Dayton Superior Corporation
 1125 Byers Road
 Miamisburg, OH 45342


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 I have come to like U2 over the past few years but an honest question:

 Why would anyone ever pick U2 beyond familiarity and personal
preference?
 Can anyone think of any situation that another (and in a lot of cases a
 *far* cheaper) database isn't a better fit?

 Maybe if U2 had it's own niche like MySQL has with web hosting, there
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Re: [U2] Why use U2, was Interesting Article

2011-07-13 Thread Bill Brutzman
Is Mongo a persistent database?  That is, does Mongo save the data to disk, 
or just RAM?

If it is RAM, then that is ok for tweets between high school chicks... but not 
so good for bank accounts.

--Bill

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Subject: Re: [U2] Why use U2, was Interesting Article

I am a bit of a mongo DB fanboy myself, I think regarding performance, because 
of its autosharding any large scale application will definitely beat u2.  Mongo 
db powers many mainstream enterprise solutions, and high profile websites, - 
bit.ly comes to mind, so it certainly has a pedigree as well.

However i am also a u2 fanboy  for many many reasons.

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Re: [U2] Why use U2, was Interesting Article

2011-07-13 Thread Steve Romanow
It saves to disk, and iirc you can specify how many replicants it is written
to to be considered written.

You may be confusing it with memcached or redis, but even they have
persistence.
On Jul 13, 2011 2:02 PM, Bill Brutzman bi...@hkmetalcraft.com wrote:
 Is Mongo a persistent database? That is, does Mongo save the data to
disk, or just RAM?

 If it is RAM, then that is ok for tweets between high school chicks... but
not so good for bank accounts.

 --Bill

 -Original Message-
 Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 1:56 PM
 Subject: Re: [U2] Why use U2, was Interesting Article

 I am a bit of a mongo DB fanboy myself, I think regarding performance,
because of its autosharding any large scale application will definitely beat
u2. Mongo db powers many mainstream enterprise solutions, and high profile
websites, - bit.ly comes to mind, so it certainly has a pedigree as well.

 However i am also a u2 fanboy for many many reasons.

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Re: [U2] Why use U2, was Interesting Article

2011-07-13 Thread Rob Sobers
Let's see if I can draw a response from you, Symeon :-)...

What exactly makes you a U2 fanboy?  What features in U2 are you happy to
pay for?

-Rob

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Symeon Breen syme...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am a bit of a mongo DB fanboy myself, I think regarding performance,
 because of its autosharding any large scale application will definitely
 beat
 u2.  Mongo db powers many mainstream enterprise solutions, and high profile
 websites, - bit.ly comes to mind, so it certainly has a pedigree as well.

 However i am also a u2 fanboy  for many many reasons.



 -Original Message-
 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
 [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Rob Sobers
 Sent: 13 July 2011 16:52
 To: U2 Users List
 Subject: Re: [U2] Why use U2, was Interesting Article

 Wait, why can't you add a new column to a table in MySQL or SQL Server?

 Putting aside the RDMS arguments, (*apart from familiarity*) why wouldn't
 you use something like MongoDB or CouchDB, which are accessible from more
 programming environments, over U2?  They offer the same schema flexibility
 and disk space benefits you cite with U2 and so much more.

 MongoDB, for instance, has built-in mechanisms for auto-sharding,
 replication, REST API, full-text index, and I can go on and on.  And it's
 FREE! :-)

 I can't speak to performance, but I'd love to benchmark MongoDB versus U2.
  Maybe I will.

 I know I sound like a MongoDB fanboy, but I think it's a straight-up U2
 killer.  I challenge anyone to find an area where U2 beats it.

 -Rob

 On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Jeff Schasny jscha...@gmail.com wrote:

  It scales well. I benchmarked 20K concurrent users for a wholesale
  distribution application on a single (HP Superdome) server and that was
 10
  years ago.
 
  The database structure can be painlessly modified which makes it much
  easier for new applications development. Need a new field, slap it on the
  end of the table and go on with your day, try that with your favorite
  relational environment.
 
  Not so important today as it once was when disk was more expensive,but it
  uses significantly less disk space than a relational database storing the
  equivalent data. This also contributes to needing significantly less
 overall
  computing power to support X number of users for a given application due
 to
  more efficient IO, i.e. less disk reads required.
 
  You can use SQL, but you don't have to. This, above all, is the MY most
  significant reason to use U2.
 
  Holt, Jake wrote:
 
  I'm not sure being cheaper than Oracle can really be touted as an
  advantage, there aren't many things out there that are more expensive
 than
  oracle =D.  And all of those things you just mentioned are also true of
 many
  FREE databases, so again, why pick U2?
 
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  Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 9:31 AM
  To: 'U2 Users List'
  Subject: Re: [U2] Interesting Article
 
  You may have answered your own question.  Why do YOU like it?
 
  It is easy to develop, quick to code, fairly robust query language, and
 a
  lot cheaper than the BIG databases (Oracle, DB2, etc).
 
 
  John Israel
  Senior Programmer/Analyst
  Dayton Superior Corporation
  1125 Byers Road
  Miamisburg, OH  45342
 
 
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  Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 10:26 AM
  To: U2 Users List
  Subject: Re: [U2] Interesting Article
 
  I have come to like U2 over the past few years but an honest question:
 
  Why would anyone ever pick U2 beyond familiarity and personal
 preference?
   Can anyone think of any situation that another (and in a lot of cases a
  *far* cheaper) database isn't a better fit?
 
  Maybe if U2 had it's own niche like MySQL has with web hosting, there
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Re: [U2] Why use U2, was Interesting Article

2011-07-13 Thread Symeon Breen
Primarily the mv data structure - is simple yet powerfull (to a point i
agree) 
Databasic feels like you are really in the data when programming, and not
divorced via layers and api's - i know you could correlate to stored
procedures, but it is not the same.
I like the way you open a udt shell and then inside it can do lots of
things, or pass things into it. It all follows the normal linux shell ethos.
Obviously i use high level (vs2010) tools sets as well, but the ability to
go command line, at linux and at u2 is great.
Similarly the way the database tables are os files - bit of a plus and minus
point for some - but gives you massive flexibility.
Being able to write databasic in ED with one eye closed, a beer in one hand,
a cat on my knee, holding a conversation with the kids and watching tv - all
at the same time - even with Visual Studios being a fantastic ide, and my
experience of using .net from the start and java for many years, i still
seem to need to concentrate much more on these other languages, and t-sql -
well its the manual out every time i venture in there.

Many more things as well - these are not really tangible business case
things but personal usage things.



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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Rob Sobers
Sent: 13 July 2011 21:12
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] Why use U2, was Interesting Article

Let's see if I can draw a response from you, Symeon :-)...

What exactly makes you a U2 fanboy?  What features in U2 are you happy to
pay for?

-Rob

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Symeon Breen syme...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am a bit of a mongo DB fanboy myself, I think regarding performance,
 because of its autosharding any large scale application will definitely
 beat
 u2.  Mongo db powers many mainstream enterprise solutions, and high
profile
 websites, - bit.ly comes to mind, so it certainly has a pedigree as well.

 However i am also a u2 fanboy  for many many reasons.



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 [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Rob Sobers
 Sent: 13 July 2011 16:52
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 Subject: Re: [U2] Why use U2, was Interesting Article

 Wait, why can't you add a new column to a table in MySQL or SQL Server?

 Putting aside the RDMS arguments, (*apart from familiarity*) why wouldn't
 you use something like MongoDB or CouchDB, which are accessible from more
 programming environments, over U2?  They offer the same schema flexibility
 and disk space benefits you cite with U2 and so much more.

 MongoDB, for instance, has built-in mechanisms for auto-sharding,
 replication, REST API, full-text index, and I can go on and on.  And it's
 FREE! :-)

 I can't speak to performance, but I'd love to benchmark MongoDB versus U2.
  Maybe I will.

 I know I sound like a MongoDB fanboy, but I think it's a straight-up U2
 killer.  I challenge anyone to find an area where U2 beats it.

 -Rob

 On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Jeff Schasny jscha...@gmail.com wrote:

  It scales well. I benchmarked 20K concurrent users for a wholesale
  distribution application on a single (HP Superdome) server and that was
 10
  years ago.
 
  The database structure can be painlessly modified which makes it much
  easier for new applications development. Need a new field, slap it on
the
  end of the table and go on with your day, try that with your favorite
  relational environment.
 
  Not so important today as it once was when disk was more expensive,but
it
  uses significantly less disk space than a relational database storing
the
  equivalent data. This also contributes to needing significantly less
 overall
  computing power to support X number of users for a given application due
 to
  more efficient IO, i.e. less disk reads required.
 
  You can use SQL, but you don't have to. This, above all, is the MY most
  significant reason to use U2.
 
  Holt, Jake wrote:
 
  I'm not sure being cheaper than Oracle can really be touted as an
  advantage, there aren't many things out there that are more expensive
 than
  oracle =D.  And all of those things you just mentioned are also true of
 many
  FREE databases, so again, why pick U2?
 
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  Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 9:31 AM
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  You may have answered your own question.  Why do YOU like it?
 
  It is easy to develop, quick to code, fairly robust query language, and
 a
  lot cheaper than the BIG databases (Oracle, DB2, etc).
 
 
  John Israel
  Senior Programmer/Analyst
  Dayton Superior Corporation
  1125 Byers Road
  Miamisburg, OH  45342
 
 
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Re: [U2] Why use U2, was Interesting Article

2011-07-13 Thread Hona, David
Always...use the right tool, for the right job...one size doesn't fit all, 
etc., etc.

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Symeon Breen
Sent: Thursday, 14 July 2011 3:56 AM
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Subject: Re: [U2] Why use U2, was Interesting Article

I am a bit of a mongo DB fanboy myself, I think regarding performance,
because of its autosharding any large scale application will definitely beat
u2.  Mongo db powers many mainstream enterprise solutions, and high profile
websites, - bit.ly comes to mind, so it certainly has a pedigree as well.

However i am also a u2 fanboy  for many many reasons.



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