RE: [U2] [UV] RAID debugger

2005-02-02 Thread Maresh, Mel
Talking of debuggers,

is everyone aware that RAID will now display the values of individual elements 
in a dynamic array

:: D.CHART<10>/
STRING: T r L=114 `34321035593806859869452618551232605421692343520675401124
5611372190936940279115843867302197542611598000'
:: D.CHART<10,1>/
STRING: T r L=10 `3432103559'

This is really cool, something I requested from microdata 25 years ago.

Mel



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Talking of debuggers, can anyone remind me how the $INCLUDE s can mess
up the line numbers displayed within the RAID debugger.

I had a solution to this once which I seem to remember had something to
do with the configuration or placement of the $INCLUDE lines in the
source code.

I look forward to any response

Thanks

Mike Farrant
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RE: [U2] [UV] RAID debugger

2005-02-02 Thread Marilyn Hilb
Mike,

I look forward to hearing your solution!! I never took time to specifically 
diagnose this, but when I have like 10 includes, when in the debugger the line 
being shown could be actually 10 lines off from the actual line being run at 
that point. Not really consistent tho, as when I have only 1 include it isn't 
off. I have just learned to live with this and to use crts when needed to 
'debug' the program when it has lots of includes in it.  

When I reported it, of course the answer was to upgrade, which we aren't 
prepared to do at this time. 

Thanks,

Marilyn A. Hilb 
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Subject:[U2] [UV] RAID debugger

Talking of debuggers, can anyone remind me how the $INCLUDE s can mess
up the line numbers displayed within the RAID debugger.

I had a solution to this once which I seem to remember had something to
do with the configuration or placement of the $INCLUDE lines in the
source code.

I look forward to any response

Thanks

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RE: [U2] [UV] RAID debugger

2005-02-02 Thread Brenda Price
What version of Universe allows this?

Brenda

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Talking of debuggers,

is everyone aware that RAID will now display the values of individual elements 
in a dynamic array

:: D.CHART<10>/
STRING: T r L=114 `34321035593806859869452618551232605421692343520675401124
5611372190936940279115843867302197542611598000'
:: D.CHART<10,1>/
STRING: T r L=10 `3432103559'

This is really cool, something I requested from microdata 25 years ago.

Mel



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Talking of debuggers, can anyone remind me how the $INCLUDE s can mess
up the line numbers displayed within the RAID debugger.

I had a solution to this once which I seem to remember had something to
do with the configuration or placement of the $INCLUDE lines in the
source code.

I look forward to any response

Thanks

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RE: [U2] [UV] RAID debugger

2005-02-02 Thread Maresh, Mel
we're on 10.1.4 and I just accidentally discovered it, I think it was 
introduced at 10.0.  It was kept rather quiet.  As Dr. Strangelove said, "What 
good is a doomsday machine if you don't tell anyone about it?"

Mel

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What version of Universe allows this?

Brenda

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Talking of debuggers,

is everyone aware that RAID will now display the values of individual elements 
in a dynamic array

:: D.CHART<10>/
STRING: T r L=114 `34321035593806859869452618551232605421692343520675401124
5611372190936940279115843867302197542611598000'
:: D.CHART<10,1>/
STRING: T r L=10 `3432103559'

This is really cool, something I requested from microdata 25 years ago.

Mel



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Subject: [U2] [UV] RAID debugger


Talking of debuggers, can anyone remind me how the $INCLUDE s can mess
up the line numbers displayed within the RAID debugger.

I had a solution to this once which I seem to remember had something to
do with the configuration or placement of the $INCLUDE lines in the
source code.

I look forward to any response

Thanks

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RE: [U2] [UV] RAID debugger

2005-02-02 Thread Bill H.
Great!  Now if only the runtime engine would tell me a little more about the
"Variable Not Assigned a Value, Zero Used" (and other such) error(s); like
what variable and what value!  Seems this was requested from Microdata 25
years ago too.  :-)

Bill

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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Maresh, Mel
> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 7:20 AM
> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Subject: RE: [U2] [UV] RAID debugger
>
>
> Talking of debuggers,
>
> is everyone aware that RAID will now display the values of
> individual elements in a dynamic array
>
> :: D.CHART<10>/
> STRING: T r L=114
> `34321035593806859869452618551232605421692343520675401124
> 5611372190936940279115843867302197542611598000'
> :: D.CHART<10,1>/
> STRING: T r L=10 `3432103559'
>
> This is really cool, something I requested from microdata 25 years ago.
>
> Mel
>
>
>
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> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 8:58 AM
> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Subject: [U2] [UV] RAID debugger
>
>
> Talking of debuggers, can anyone remind me how the $INCLUDE s can mess
> up the line numbers displayed within the RAID debugger.
>
> I had a solution to this once which I seem to remember had something to
> do with the configuration or placement of the $INCLUDE lines in the
> source code.
>
> I look forward to any response
>
> Thanks
>
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RE: [U2] [UV] RAID debugger

2005-02-02 Thread Peter D Olson
i think 10+

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RE: [U2] [UV] RAID debugger

2005-02-02 Thread Mitchell, Stewart
Mike,

The line numbers get messed up in RAID if you have an inline comment after
the include.

This buggers the line numbers

$INCLUDE ARINCLUDE AR.MASTER  ;*In line comment

and this doesn't

$INCLUDE ARINCLUDE AR.MASTER


Get rid of the in line comment and the line numbers will be correct.

Regards,
Stewart

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Talking of debuggers, can anyone remind me how the $INCLUDE s can mess
up the line numbers displayed within the RAID debugger.

I had a solution to this once which I seem to remember had something to
do with the configuration or placement of the $INCLUDE lines in the
source code.

I look forward to any response

Thanks

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RE: [U2] [UV] RAID debugger

2005-02-02 Thread Leroy Dreyfuss
Upgrade to the most current release for your platform and you'll find that
is no longer a problem.


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Mike,

The line numbers get messed up in RAID if you have an inline comment after
the include.

This buggers the line numbers

$INCLUDE ARINCLUDE AR.MASTER  ;*In line comment

and this doesn't

$INCLUDE ARINCLUDE AR.MASTER


Get rid of the in line comment and the line numbers will be correct.

Regards,
Stewart

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Subject: [U2] [UV] RAID debugger


Talking of debuggers, can anyone remind me how the $INCLUDE s can mess
up the line numbers displayed within the RAID debugger.

I had a solution to this once which I seem to remember had something to
do with the configuration or placement of the $INCLUDE lines in the
source code.

I look forward to any response

Thanks

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RE: [U2] [UV] RAID debugger

2005-02-02 Thread Stewart Leicester
is everyone aware that RAID will now display the 
values of individual elements in a dynamic array

:: D.CHART<10>/
STRING: T r L=114 
`34321035593806859869452618551232605421692343520675401124
5611372190936940279115843867302197542611598000'
:: D.CHART<10,1>/
STRING: T r L=10 `3432103559'

This is really cool, something I requested from microdata 25 years ago.
Mel


Great!  Now if only the runtime engine would tell me a little more about the
"Variable Not Assigned a Value, Zero Used" (and other such) error(s); like
what variable and what value!  Seems this was requested from Microdata 25
years ago too.  :-)
Bill
Microdata had in internal design doc in the mid 
'80s for completely revamping the BASIC debugger. 
It included both the above as well as much more. 
Unfortunately never saw the light of day. Ah 
well...

Stewart
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Re: [U2] [UV] RAID debugger

2005-02-02 Thread Mark Johnson
Microdata dropped the ball on the INCLUDE 20 years ago which offers this
solution that I use for all of my MCD clients today. Here's the source
snippet

***
* PROGRAM NAME
* MARK JOHNSON 020205
***
GOSUB GET.INCLUDES
OPEN "CUSTOMER" ETC

GET.INCLUDES:*
INCLUDE THING1
INCLUDE THING2
INCLUDE THING3
RETURN
END (of source code)

Since MCD doesn't allow RUN and external SUBROUTINE programs to intermingle,
I write my handy subs from other clients as INCLUDES and include them at the
end. Just be careful of an imbedded RETURN on THING2 above preventing THING3
from executing.

My 1 cent.
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Subject: [U2] [UV] RAID debugger


> Talking of debuggers, can anyone remind me how the $INCLUDE s can mess
> up the line numbers displayed within the RAID debugger.
>
> I had a solution to this once which I seem to remember had something to
> do with the configuration or placement of the $INCLUDE lines in the
> source code.
>
> I look forward to any response
>
> Thanks
>
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RE: [U2] [UV] RAID debugger

2005-02-03 Thread Marilyn Hilb
Ohoh! I was thinking to move them to the bottom of the program when this 
discussion first came up, as that would not mess up the line count. But 
couldn't think how to do it!. This is good!! So now we have two solutions.  
Thanks folks! I should have asked this of you 2 years ago :). Special thanks to 
whoever brought up this conversation! 

Thanks,

Marilyn A. Hilb 
Value Part, Inc
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Sent:   Wednesday, February 02, 2005 8:35 PM
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Microdata dropped the ball on the INCLUDE 20 years ago which offers this
solution that I use for all of my MCD clients today. Here's the source
snippet

***
* PROGRAM NAME
* MARK JOHNSON 020205
***
GOSUB GET.INCLUDES
OPEN "CUSTOMER" ETC

GET.INCLUDES:*
INCLUDE THING1
INCLUDE THING2
INCLUDE THING3
RETURN
END (of source code)

Since MCD doesn't allow RUN and external SUBROUTINE programs to intermingle,
I write my handy subs from other clients as INCLUDES and include them at the
end. Just be careful of an imbedded RETURN on THING2 above preventing THING3
from executing.

My 1 cent.
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> Talking of debuggers, can anyone remind me how the $INCLUDE s can mess
> up the line numbers displayed within the RAID debugger.
>
> I had a solution to this once which I seem to remember had something to
> do with the configuration or placement of the $INCLUDE lines in the
> source code.
>
> I look forward to any response
>
> Thanks
>
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Re: [U2] [UV] RAID debugger

2005-02-03 Thread Jerry Banker
I guess it does depend on the type of include it is but you could put the 
includes near the bottom of the program and use a gosub to reference them if 
they are needed at the top.

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Talking of debuggers, can anyone remind me how the $INCLUDE s can mess
up the line numbers displayed within the RAID debugger.

I had a solution to this once which I seem to remember had something to
do with the configuration or placement of the $INCLUDE lines in the
source code.

I look forward to any response

Thanks

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Re: [U2] [UV] RAID debugger

2005-02-03 Thread Jerry Banker
Check the errlog file in your uv directory. If you don't have one then 
create one. It will log any runtime errors in your programs. You can view it 
with more or print it out. The number of lines in this file are controlled 
by the MAXERRLOGENT parameter.

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Great!  Now if only the runtime engine would tell me a little more about the
"Variable Not Assigned a Value, Zero Used" (and other such) error(s); like
what variable and what value!  Seems this was requested from Microdata 25
years ago too.  :-)

Bill

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> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 7:20 AM
> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Subject: RE: [U2] [UV] RAID debugger
>
>
> Talking of debuggers,
>
> is everyone aware that RAID will now display the values of
> individual elements in a dynamic array
>
> :: D.CHART<10>/
> STRING: T r L=114
> `34321035593806859869452618551232605421692343520675401124
> 5611372190936940279115843867302197542611598000'
> :: D.CHART<10,1>/
> STRING: T r L=10 `3432103559'
>
> This is really cool, something I requested from microdata 25 years ago.
>
> Mel
>
>
>
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> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 8:58 AM
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> Subject: [U2] [UV] RAID debugger
>
>
> Talking of debuggers, can anyone remind me how the $INCLUDE s can mess
> up the line numbers displayed within the RAID debugger.
>
> I had a solution to this once which I seem to remember had something to
> do with the configuration or placement of the $INCLUDE lines in the
> source code.
>
> I look forward to any response
>
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RE: [U2] [UV] RAID debugger

2005-02-04 Thread Mike Farrant
That's the one I was looking for!  Thanks very much Stuart.


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Mike,

The line numbers get messed up in RAID if you have an inline comment
after the include.

This buggers the line numbers

$INCLUDE ARINCLUDE AR.MASTER  ;*In line comment

and this doesn't

$INCLUDE ARINCLUDE AR.MASTER


Get rid of the in line comment and the line numbers will be correct.

Regards,
Stewart

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Subject: [U2] [UV] RAID debugger


Talking of debuggers, can anyone remind me how the $INCLUDE s can mess
up the line numbers displayed within the RAID debugger.

I had a solution to this once which I seem to remember had something to
do with the configuration or placement of the $INCLUDE lines in the
source code.

I look forward to any response

Thanks

Mike Farrant
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RE: [U2] [UV] RAID debugger

2005-02-04 Thread Mike Farrant
Does everyone find upgrading so easy?  Personally, I find to upgrade a
system supporting over 1000 users world-wide quite a daunting task and
not a decision that can be taken lightly.

Mike

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Upgrade to the most current release for your platform and you'll find
that is no longer a problem.


Regards,

LeRoy F. Dreyfuss
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Mike,

The line numbers get messed up in RAID if you have an inline comment
after the include.

This buggers the line numbers

$INCLUDE ARINCLUDE AR.MASTER  ;*In line comment

and this doesn't

$INCLUDE ARINCLUDE AR.MASTER


Get rid of the in line comment and the line numbers will be correct.

Regards,
Stewart

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Talking of debuggers, can anyone remind me how the $INCLUDE s can mess
up the line numbers displayed within the RAID debugger.

I had a solution to this once which I seem to remember had something to
do with the configuration or placement of the $INCLUDE lines in the
source code.

I look forward to any response

Thanks

Mike Farrant
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RE: [U2] [UV] RAID debugger

2005-02-04 Thread Donald Kibbey
I think if I were supporting that many users, I'd want to insure the system had 
the most reliable code base I could.  Does not mean you do every upgrade, but 
it does requrie an effort to stay fairly current.  With that many users, you 
probably have a test environment where upgrades could be evaluated prior to 
rollout to the live system.




Don Kibbey
Financial Systems Manager
Finnegan, Henderson, Farabow, Garrett & Dunner LLP
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RE: [U2] [UV] RAID debugger

2005-02-04 Thread Kevin P Lynch
I have found Universe upgrades to be extremely clean.
We upgrade our customers on a consistent basis and I've never
had a real problem because of it. Now application upgrades
those can be a little dicier ;) 

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I think if I were supporting that many users, I'd want to insure the system
had the most reliable code base I could.  Does not mean you do every
upgrade, but it does requrie an effort to stay fairly current.  With that
many users, you probably have a test environment where upgrades could be
evaluated prior to rollout to the live system.




Don Kibbey
Financial Systems Manager
Finnegan, Henderson, Farabow, Garrett & Dunner LLP
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