Re: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices

[RickG]

Thanks Gents!

On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 9:51 PM, Tommy Adams  wrote:

> We have moved several Mikrotik 2.4 towers to the ePMP 2.4 and see huge
> increases in performance. The stuff just works. We will be elevating our
> remaining 2.4 UBNT gear very soon.
>
>
> 
> Tommy A.
> Digitex.com
>
> 817.558.6230 V
> 817.558.1204 F
>
> On Nov 18, 2017, at 7:11 PM, David Jones  wrote:
>
> It's an ePMP 1000 2ghz with sync connected to a ubnt 2ghz sector. We
> elevated the people connect to the old rocket and swapped the Rocket with
> the ePMP. Signals were about the same maybe a bit less but performance was
> greatly increased.
>
> On Nov 18, 2017 12:55 PM, "RickG"  wrote:
>
> David, What AP did you use for the NS2's?
>
> On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 12:46 PM, David Jones 
> wrote:
>
>> That was a 5ghz. I have elevated some NS2's. Here is a NS2 with a
>> reflector dish at 14.8 miles getting about 62mbps down. I am really
>> impressed with what I can now get from the 2ghz.
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 7:18 PM, RickG  wrote:
>>
>>> Ha-vent had any issues with the Rocket Prism 5GHz but the "XM" firmware
>>> 2.4GHz CPE not so much ;(
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 6:33 PM, David Jones 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 We tried an AC with MM sync And the performance is worse than just
 mixed mode. It may have to do with the clients that have poor signal. With
 an elevated XM I can pull 70mbps at a -73 signal with 60 other people
 connected to the AP on a 40mhz channel. with a - 64 signal I can pull
 94mbps maxing out the 100mbps port. an XW on the same sector can pull about
 127mbps tcp throughput.
 No matter what I tried with UBNT I could not get my legacy devices to
 pull more than 40mbps TCP on a sector with more than 35 devices connected.
 sure its udp test showed 85mbps+ but the TCP was barely half that. With the
 cambium tests the TCP is usually within 5% of it.

 We have also had problems with random UDP packets going missing and it
 causes problems with VOIP and gamers. its not the connection quality
 because we can use a VPN and magically the udp didn't disappear. adding the
 latency and overhead improved the VOIP and UDP based games.

 Going Forward we may have places that pure AC may work well but for any
 of the old M equipment nothing beats an ePMP2000 with elevated firmware.

 On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 1:38 PM, J Portman  wrote:

> Just as a data point, we upgraded one of our towers to run sync in
> mixed mode a few weeks ago and it has performed flawlessly.
>
> We are getting ready to roll sync out to the entire network (60+ APS).
> I will report on our progress.
>
> YMMV,
> JP
>
>
> *On Fri, 17 Nov 2017 19:56:17 +, Rory Conaway wrote*
> > Understood.  With the [UTF-8?]Prism’s handling multi-mode, have
> you considered that option?
> >
> > Rory
> >
> > *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-bounces@wis
> pa.org] *On Behalf Of *David Jones
> > *Sent:* Friday, November 17, 2017 12:21 PM
> > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group 
> > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices
> >
> >
> > Well for us it is because we are elevating our units. I also hate
> the locked firmware at and after 6.0.6
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 10:21 AM, Rory Conaway <
> r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:
>
>
> >
> > Why are you still running 6.0.4?
> >
> > Rory
> >
> >
> > *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-bounces@wis
> pa.org] *On Behalf Of *Troy Gibson, Byhalia.net,LLC
> > *Sent:* Friday, November 17, 2017 5:31 AM
> >
> > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group 
> > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices
> >
> >
> >
> > Beta 6 or 7 still does not find 6.0.4.  I have had to go through my
> system to find missing CPE's or APs that were on 6.0.4  Downgraded to
> 5.6.15 for them to be found as I was unsure of the higher 6.0 firmware at
> the time.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Troy Gibson
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> >
> >
> >
> >  Original message 
> >
> > From: RickG 
> >
> > Date: 11/17/17 4:51 AM (GMT-05:00)
> >
> > To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
> >
> > Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices
> >
> >
> >
> > The beta works better.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 1:48 PM, Phil Curnutt 
> wrote:
>

Re: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices

[Tommy Adams]

We have moved several Mikrotik 2.4 towers to the ePMP 2.4 and see huge 
increases in performance. The stuff just works. We will be elevating our 
remaining 2.4 UBNT gear very soon. 



Tommy A.
Digitex.com

817.558.6230 V
817.558.1204 F

> On Nov 18, 2017, at 7:11 PM, David Jones  wrote:
> 
> It's an ePMP 1000 2ghz with sync connected to a ubnt 2ghz sector. We elevated 
> the people connect to the old rocket and swapped the Rocket with the ePMP. 
> Signals were about the same maybe a bit less but performance was greatly 
> increased.
> 
> On Nov 18, 2017 12:55 PM, "RickG"  wrote:
> David, What AP did you use for the NS2's?
> 
> On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 12:46 PM, David Jones  wrote:
>> That was a 5ghz. I have elevated some NS2's. Here is a NS2 with a reflector 
>> dish at 14.8 miles getting about 62mbps down. I am really impressed with 
>> what I can now get from the 2ghz.
>> 
>>> On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 7:18 PM, RickG  wrote:
>>> Ha-vent had any issues with the Rocket Prism 5GHz but the "XM" firmware 
>>> 2.4GHz CPE not so much ;(
>>> 
 On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 6:33 PM, David Jones  
 wrote:
>>> 
 We tried an AC with MM sync And the performance is worse than just mixed 
 mode. It may have to do with the clients that have poor signal. With an 
 elevated XM I can pull 70mbps at a -73 signal with 60 other people 
 connected to the AP on a 40mhz channel. with a - 64 signal I can pull 
 94mbps maxing out the 100mbps port. an XW on the same sector can pull 
 about 127mbps tcp throughput.
 No matter what I tried with UBNT I could not get my legacy devices to pull 
 more than 40mbps TCP on a sector with more than 35 devices connected. sure 
 its udp test showed 85mbps+ but the TCP was barely half that. With the 
 cambium tests the TCP is usually within 5% of it.
 
 We have also had problems with random UDP packets going missing and it 
 causes problems with VOIP and gamers. its not the connection quality 
 because we can use a VPN and magically the udp didn't disappear. adding 
 the latency and overhead improved the VOIP and UDP based games.
 
 Going Forward we may have places that pure AC may work well but for any of 
 the old M equipment nothing beats an ePMP2000 with elevated firmware.
 
> On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 1:38 PM, J Portman  wrote:
> Just as a data point, we upgraded one of our towers to run sync in mixed 
> mode a few weeks ago and it has performed flawlessly. 
> 
> We are getting ready to roll sync out to the entire network (60+ APS). I 
> will report on our progress. 
> 
> YMMV, 
> JP 
> 
> 
> On Fri, 17 Nov 2017 19:56:17 +, Rory Conaway wrote 
> > Understood.  With the [UTF-8?]Prism’s handling multi-mode, have you 
> > considered that option? 
> >   
> > Rory 
> >   
> > From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
> > [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David Jones 
> > Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 12:21 PM 
> > To: Ubiquiti Users Group  
> > Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices 
> >   
> > 
> > Well for us it is because we are elevating our units. I also hate the 
> > locked firmware at and after 6.0.6 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 10:21 AM, Rory Conaway  
> > wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Why are you still running 6.0.4? 
> >   
> > Rory 
> >   
> > 
> > From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
> > [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Troy Gibson, 
> > Byhalia.net,LLC 
> > Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 5:31 AM 
> > 
> > To: Ubiquiti Users Group  
> > Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > Beta 6 or 7 still does not find 6.0.4.  I have had to go through my 
> > system to find missing CPE's or APs that were on 6.0.4  Downgraded to 
> > 5.6.15 for them to be found as I was unsure of the higher 6.0 firmware 
> > at the time. 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> >   
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > Troy Gibson 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> >  Original message  
> > 
> > From: RickG  
> > 
> > Date: 11/17/17 4:51 AM (GMT-05:00) 
> > 
> > To: Ubiquiti Users Group  
> > 
> > Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > The beta works better. 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 1:48 PM, Phil Curnutt  
> > 

Re: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices

[David Jones]

It's an ePMP 1000 2ghz with sync connected to a ubnt 2ghz sector. We
elevated the people connect to the old rocket and swapped the Rocket with
the ePMP. Signals were about the same maybe a bit less but performance was
greatly increased.

On Nov 18, 2017 12:55 PM, "RickG"  wrote:

David, What AP did you use for the NS2's?

On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 12:46 PM, David Jones 
wrote:

> That was a 5ghz. I have elevated some NS2's. Here is a NS2 with a
> reflector dish at 14.8 miles getting about 62mbps down. I am really
> impressed with what I can now get from the 2ghz.
>
> On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 7:18 PM, RickG  wrote:
>
>> Ha-vent had any issues with the Rocket Prism 5GHz but the "XM" firmware
>> 2.4GHz CPE not so much ;(
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 6:33 PM, David Jones 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> We tried an AC with MM sync And the performance is worse than just mixed
>>> mode. It may have to do with the clients that have poor signal. With an
>>> elevated XM I can pull 70mbps at a -73 signal with 60 other people
>>> connected to the AP on a 40mhz channel. with a - 64 signal I can pull
>>> 94mbps maxing out the 100mbps port. an XW on the same sector can pull about
>>> 127mbps tcp throughput.
>>> No matter what I tried with UBNT I could not get my legacy devices to
>>> pull more than 40mbps TCP on a sector with more than 35 devices connected.
>>> sure its udp test showed 85mbps+ but the TCP was barely half that. With the
>>> cambium tests the TCP is usually within 5% of it.
>>>
>>> We have also had problems with random UDP packets going missing and it
>>> causes problems with VOIP and gamers. its not the connection quality
>>> because we can use a VPN and magically the udp didn't disappear. adding the
>>> latency and overhead improved the VOIP and UDP based games.
>>>
>>> Going Forward we may have places that pure AC may work well but for any
>>> of the old M equipment nothing beats an ePMP2000 with elevated firmware.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 1:38 PM, J Portman  wrote:
>>>
 Just as a data point, we upgraded one of our towers to run sync in
 mixed mode a few weeks ago and it has performed flawlessly.

 We are getting ready to roll sync out to the entire network (60+ APS).
 I will report on our progress.

 YMMV,
 JP


 *On Fri, 17 Nov 2017 19:56:17 +, Rory Conaway wrote*
 > Understood.  With the [UTF-8?]Prism’s handling multi-mode, have you
 considered that option?
 >
 > Rory
 >
 > *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-bounces@wis
 pa.org] *On Behalf Of *David Jones
 > *Sent:* Friday, November 17, 2017 12:21 PM
 > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group 
 > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices
 >
 >
 > Well for us it is because we are elevating our units. I also hate the
 locked firmware at and after 6.0.6
 >
 >
 >
 > On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 10:21 AM, Rory Conaway <
 r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:


 >
 > Why are you still running 6.0.4?
 >
 > Rory
 >
 >
 > *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-bounces@wis
 pa.org] *On Behalf Of *Troy Gibson, Byhalia.net,LLC
 > *Sent:* Friday, November 17, 2017 5:31 AM
 >
 > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group 
 > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices
 >
 >
 >
 > Beta 6 or 7 still does not find 6.0.4.  I have had to go through my
 system to find missing CPE's or APs that were on 6.0.4  Downgraded to
 5.6.15 for them to be found as I was unsure of the higher 6.0 firmware at
 the time.
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 > Troy Gibson
 >
 >
 >
 > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 >
 >
 >
 >  Original message 
 >
 > From: RickG 
 >
 > Date: 11/17/17 4:51 AM (GMT-05:00)
 >
 > To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
 >
 > Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices
 >
 >
 >
 > The beta works better.
 >
 >
 >
 > On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 1:48 PM, Phil Curnutt 
 wrote:


 >
 > AirControl2 2.0.3 is found on Ubnt.com, 
 > Support>Downloads>AirMax>Utilities.
 Your have choices of Linux or Windows10 Servers and Clients and Mac
 Clients.  I found our 900 radios on 5.6.9, but not the one on 6.0.4, but I
 was able to add the device manually using v 2.0.2.
 >
 >
 >
 > Phil
 >
 >
 >
 > On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 11:18 AM, Jan Van Kort <
 j.vank...@oregononline.net> wrote:


 >
 > I had an earlier version of air control installed and gave up trying
 to make it work over 2 years ago.  

Re: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices

[RickG]

David, What AP did you use for the NS2's?

On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 12:46 PM, David Jones 
wrote:

> That was a 5ghz. I have elevated some NS2's. Here is a NS2 with a
> reflector dish at 14.8 miles getting about 62mbps down. I am really
> impressed with what I can now get from the 2ghz.
>
> On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 7:18 PM, RickG  wrote:
>
>> Ha-vent had any issues with the Rocket Prism 5GHz but the "XM" firmware
>> 2.4GHz CPE not so much ;(
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 6:33 PM, David Jones 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> We tried an AC with MM sync And the performance is worse than just mixed
>>> mode. It may have to do with the clients that have poor signal. With an
>>> elevated XM I can pull 70mbps at a -73 signal with 60 other people
>>> connected to the AP on a 40mhz channel. with a - 64 signal I can pull
>>> 94mbps maxing out the 100mbps port. an XW on the same sector can pull about
>>> 127mbps tcp throughput.
>>> No matter what I tried with UBNT I could not get my legacy devices to
>>> pull more than 40mbps TCP on a sector with more than 35 devices connected.
>>> sure its udp test showed 85mbps+ but the TCP was barely half that. With the
>>> cambium tests the TCP is usually within 5% of it.
>>>
>>> We have also had problems with random UDP packets going missing and it
>>> causes problems with VOIP and gamers. its not the connection quality
>>> because we can use a VPN and magically the udp didn't disappear. adding the
>>> latency and overhead improved the VOIP and UDP based games.
>>>
>>> Going Forward we may have places that pure AC may work well but for any
>>> of the old M equipment nothing beats an ePMP2000 with elevated firmware.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 1:38 PM, J Portman  wrote:
>>>
 Just as a data point, we upgraded one of our towers to run sync in
 mixed mode a few weeks ago and it has performed flawlessly.

 We are getting ready to roll sync out to the entire network (60+ APS).
 I will report on our progress.

 YMMV,
 JP


 *On Fri, 17 Nov 2017 19:56:17 +, Rory Conaway wrote*
 > Understood.  With the [UTF-8?]Prism’s handling multi-mode, have you
 considered that option?
 >
 > Rory
 >
 > *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-bounces@wis
 pa.org] *On Behalf Of *David Jones
 > *Sent:* Friday, November 17, 2017 12:21 PM
 > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group 
 > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices
 >
 >
 > Well for us it is because we are elevating our units. I also hate the
 locked firmware at and after 6.0.6
 >
 >
 >
 > On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 10:21 AM, Rory Conaway <
 r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:


 >
 > Why are you still running 6.0.4?
 >
 > Rory
 >
 >
 > *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-bounces@wis
 pa.org] *On Behalf Of *Troy Gibson, Byhalia.net,LLC
 > *Sent:* Friday, November 17, 2017 5:31 AM
 >
 > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group 
 > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices
 >
 >
 >
 > Beta 6 or 7 still does not find 6.0.4.  I have had to go through my
 system to find missing CPE's or APs that were on 6.0.4  Downgraded to
 5.6.15 for them to be found as I was unsure of the higher 6.0 firmware at
 the time.
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 > Troy Gibson
 >
 >
 >
 > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 >
 >
 >
 >  Original message 
 >
 > From: RickG 
 >
 > Date: 11/17/17 4:51 AM (GMT-05:00)
 >
 > To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
 >
 > Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices
 >
 >
 >
 > The beta works better.
 >
 >
 >
 > On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 1:48 PM, Phil Curnutt 
 wrote:


 >
 > AirControl2 2.0.3 is found on Ubnt.com, 
 > Support>Downloads>AirMax>Utilities.
 Your have choices of Linux or Windows10 Servers and Clients and Mac
 Clients.  I found our 900 radios on 5.6.9, but not the one on 6.0.4, but I
 was able to add the device manually using v 2.0.2.
 >
 >
 >
 > Phil
 >
 >
 >
 > On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 11:18 AM, Jan Van Kort <
 j.vank...@oregononline.net> wrote:


 >
 > I had an earlier version of air control installed and gave up trying
 to make it work over 2 years ago.  Where do i go to get a current version
 of air control so I can try it again?  I'm wandering around the
 ubnt.com website and can't find it.  Does the current version have the
 6.04 issue?
 >
 >
 > On 08/31/2017 11:05 AM, James Craig via Ubnt_users wrote:


 >
 

Re: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices

[RickG]

Wow!

On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 12:46 PM, David Jones 
wrote:

> That was a 5ghz. I have elevated some NS2's. Here is a NS2 with a
> reflector dish at 14.8 miles getting about 62mbps down. I am really
> impressed with what I can now get from the 2ghz.
>
> On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 7:18 PM, RickG  wrote:
>
>> Ha-vent had any issues with the Rocket Prism 5GHz but the "XM" firmware
>> 2.4GHz CPE not so much ;(
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 6:33 PM, David Jones 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> We tried an AC with MM sync And the performance is worse than just mixed
>>> mode. It may have to do with the clients that have poor signal. With an
>>> elevated XM I can pull 70mbps at a -73 signal with 60 other people
>>> connected to the AP on a 40mhz channel. with a - 64 signal I can pull
>>> 94mbps maxing out the 100mbps port. an XW on the same sector can pull about
>>> 127mbps tcp throughput.
>>> No matter what I tried with UBNT I could not get my legacy devices to
>>> pull more than 40mbps TCP on a sector with more than 35 devices connected.
>>> sure its udp test showed 85mbps+ but the TCP was barely half that. With the
>>> cambium tests the TCP is usually within 5% of it.
>>>
>>> We have also had problems with random UDP packets going missing and it
>>> causes problems with VOIP and gamers. its not the connection quality
>>> because we can use a VPN and magically the udp didn't disappear. adding the
>>> latency and overhead improved the VOIP and UDP based games.
>>>
>>> Going Forward we may have places that pure AC may work well but for any
>>> of the old M equipment nothing beats an ePMP2000 with elevated firmware.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 1:38 PM, J Portman  wrote:
>>>
 Just as a data point, we upgraded one of our towers to run sync in
 mixed mode a few weeks ago and it has performed flawlessly.

 We are getting ready to roll sync out to the entire network (60+ APS).
 I will report on our progress.

 YMMV,
 JP


 *On Fri, 17 Nov 2017 19:56:17 +, Rory Conaway wrote*
 > Understood.  With the [UTF-8?]Prism’s handling multi-mode, have you
 considered that option?
 >
 > Rory
 >
 > *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-bounces@wis
 pa.org] *On Behalf Of *David Jones
 > *Sent:* Friday, November 17, 2017 12:21 PM
 > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group 
 > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices
 >
 >
 > Well for us it is because we are elevating our units. I also hate the
 locked firmware at and after 6.0.6
 >
 >
 >
 > On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 10:21 AM, Rory Conaway <
 r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:


 >
 > Why are you still running 6.0.4?
 >
 > Rory
 >
 >
 > *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-bounces@wis
 pa.org] *On Behalf Of *Troy Gibson, Byhalia.net,LLC
 > *Sent:* Friday, November 17, 2017 5:31 AM
 >
 > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group 
 > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices
 >
 >
 >
 > Beta 6 or 7 still does not find 6.0.4.  I have had to go through my
 system to find missing CPE's or APs that were on 6.0.4  Downgraded to
 5.6.15 for them to be found as I was unsure of the higher 6.0 firmware at
 the time.
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 > Troy Gibson
 >
 >
 >
 > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 >
 >
 >
 >  Original message 
 >
 > From: RickG 
 >
 > Date: 11/17/17 4:51 AM (GMT-05:00)
 >
 > To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
 >
 > Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices
 >
 >
 >
 > The beta works better.
 >
 >
 >
 > On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 1:48 PM, Phil Curnutt 
 wrote:


 >
 > AirControl2 2.0.3 is found on Ubnt.com, 
 > Support>Downloads>AirMax>Utilities.
 Your have choices of Linux or Windows10 Servers and Clients and Mac
 Clients.  I found our 900 radios on 5.6.9, but not the one on 6.0.4, but I
 was able to add the device manually using v 2.0.2.
 >
 >
 >
 > Phil
 >
 >
 >
 > On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 11:18 AM, Jan Van Kort <
 j.vank...@oregononline.net> wrote:


 >
 > I had an earlier version of air control installed and gave up trying
 to make it work over 2 years ago.  Where do i go to get a current version
 of air control so I can try it again?  I'm wandering around the
 ubnt.com website and can't find it.  Does the current version have the
 6.04 issue?
 >
 >
 > On 08/31/2017 11:05 AM, James Craig via Ubnt_users wrote:


 >
 > Hi Guys,
 >
 >
 >
 

Re: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices

[David Jones]

That was a 5ghz. I have elevated some NS2's. Here is a NS2 with a reflector
dish at 14.8 miles getting about 62mbps down. I am really impressed with
what I can now get from the 2ghz.

On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 7:18 PM, RickG  wrote:

> Ha-vent had any issues with the Rocket Prism 5GHz but the "XM" firmware
> 2.4GHz CPE not so much ;(
>
> On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 6:33 PM, David Jones 
> wrote:
>
>> We tried an AC with MM sync And the performance is worse than just mixed
>> mode. It may have to do with the clients that have poor signal. With an
>> elevated XM I can pull 70mbps at a -73 signal with 60 other people
>> connected to the AP on a 40mhz channel. with a - 64 signal I can pull
>> 94mbps maxing out the 100mbps port. an XW on the same sector can pull about
>> 127mbps tcp throughput.
>> No matter what I tried with UBNT I could not get my legacy devices to
>> pull more than 40mbps TCP on a sector with more than 35 devices connected.
>> sure its udp test showed 85mbps+ but the TCP was barely half that. With the
>> cambium tests the TCP is usually within 5% of it.
>>
>> We have also had problems with random UDP packets going missing and it
>> causes problems with VOIP and gamers. its not the connection quality
>> because we can use a VPN and magically the udp didn't disappear. adding the
>> latency and overhead improved the VOIP and UDP based games.
>>
>> Going Forward we may have places that pure AC may work well but for any
>> of the old M equipment nothing beats an ePMP2000 with elevated firmware.
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 1:38 PM, J Portman  wrote:
>>
>>> Just as a data point, we upgraded one of our towers to run sync in mixed
>>> mode a few weeks ago and it has performed flawlessly.
>>>
>>> We are getting ready to roll sync out to the entire network (60+ APS). I
>>> will report on our progress.
>>>
>>> YMMV,
>>> JP
>>>
>>>
>>> *On Fri, 17 Nov 2017 19:56:17 +, Rory Conaway wrote*
>>> > Understood.  With the [UTF-8?]Prism’s handling multi-mode, have you
>>> considered that option?
>>> >
>>> > Rory
>>> >
>>> > *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-bounces@wis
>>> pa.org] *On Behalf Of *David Jones
>>> > *Sent:* Friday, November 17, 2017 12:21 PM
>>> > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group 
>>> > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Well for us it is because we are elevating our units. I also hate the
>>> locked firmware at and after 6.0.6
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 10:21 AM, Rory Conaway 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> >
>>> > Why are you still running 6.0.4?
>>> >
>>> > Rory
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-bounces@wis
>>> pa.org] *On Behalf Of *Troy Gibson, Byhalia.net,LLC
>>> > *Sent:* Friday, November 17, 2017 5:31 AM
>>> >
>>> > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group 
>>> > *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Beta 6 or 7 still does not find 6.0.4.  I have had to go through my
>>> system to find missing CPE's or APs that were on 6.0.4  Downgraded to
>>> 5.6.15 for them to be found as I was unsure of the higher 6.0 firmware at
>>> the time.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Troy Gibson
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >  Original message 
>>> >
>>> > From: RickG 
>>> >
>>> > Date: 11/17/17 4:51 AM (GMT-05:00)
>>> >
>>> > To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
>>> >
>>> > Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > The beta works better.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 1:48 PM, Phil Curnutt 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> >
>>> > AirControl2 2.0.3 is found on Ubnt.com, 
>>> > Support>Downloads>AirMax>Utilities.
>>> Your have choices of Linux or Windows10 Servers and Clients and Mac
>>> Clients.  I found our 900 radios on 5.6.9, but not the one on 6.0.4, but I
>>> was able to add the device manually using v 2.0.2.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Phil
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 11:18 AM, Jan Van Kort <
>>> j.vank...@oregononline.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> >
>>> > I had an earlier version of air control installed and gave up trying
>>> to make it work over 2 years ago.  Where do i go to get a current version
>>> of air control so I can try it again?  I'm wandering around the ubnt.com
>>> website and can't find it.  Does the current version have the 6.04 issue?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On 08/31/2017 11:05 AM, James Craig via Ubnt_users wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> >
>>> > Hi Guys,
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > This is most likely due to this change in discovery in 6.0.4.  We're
>>> adding CGN address space in 6.0.7, so moving forward, you will only be able
>>> to discover from RFC1918 and RFC6598 address. IP range scanning should
>>> still work.
>>> >