We have moved several Mikrotik 2.4 towers to the ePMP 2.4 and see huge 
increases in performance. The stuff just works. We will be elevating our 
remaining 2.4 UBNT gear very soon. 


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Tommy A.
Digitex.com

817.558.6230 V
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> On Nov 18, 2017, at 7:11 PM, David Jones <d...@nglconnection.com> wrote:
> 
> It's an ePMP 1000 2ghz with sync connected to a ubnt 2ghz sector. We elevated 
> the people connect to the old rocket and swapped the Rocket with the ePMP. 
> Signals were about the same maybe a bit less but performance was greatly 
> increased.
> 
> On Nov 18, 2017 12:55 PM, "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> David, What AP did you use for the NS2's?
> 
> On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 12:46 PM, David Jones <d...@nglconnection.com> wrote:
>> That was a 5ghz. I have elevated some NS2's. Here is a NS2 with a reflector 
>> dish at 14.8 miles getting about 62mbps down. I am really impressed with 
>> what I can now get from the 2ghz.
>> 
>>> On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 7:18 PM, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Ha-vent had any issues with the Rocket Prism 5GHz but the "XM" firmware 
>>> 2.4GHz CPE not so much ;(
>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 6:33 PM, David Jones <d...@nglconnection.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> We tried an AC with MM sync And the performance is worse than just mixed 
>>>> mode. It may have to do with the clients that have poor signal. With an 
>>>> elevated XM I can pull 70mbps at a -73 signal with 60 other people 
>>>> connected to the AP on a 40mhz channel. with a - 64 signal I can pull 
>>>> 94mbps maxing out the 100mbps port. an XW on the same sector can pull 
>>>> about 127mbps tcp throughput.
>>>> No matter what I tried with UBNT I could not get my legacy devices to pull 
>>>> more than 40mbps TCP on a sector with more than 35 devices connected. sure 
>>>> its udp test showed 85mbps+ but the TCP was barely half that. With the 
>>>> cambium tests the TCP is usually within 5% of it.
>>>> 
>>>> We have also had problems with random UDP packets going missing and it 
>>>> causes problems with VOIP and gamers. its not the connection quality 
>>>> because we can use a VPN and magically the udp didn't disappear. adding 
>>>> the latency and overhead improved the VOIP and UDP based games.
>>>> 
>>>> Going Forward we may have places that pure AC may work well but for any of 
>>>> the old M equipment nothing beats an ePMP2000 with elevated firmware.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 1:38 PM, J Portman <ba...@baron.com> wrote:
>>>>> Just as a data point, we upgraded one of our towers to run sync in mixed 
>>>>> mode a few weeks ago and it has performed flawlessly. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> We are getting ready to roll sync out to the entire network (60+ APS). I 
>>>>> will report on our progress. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> YMMV, 
>>>>> JP 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, 17 Nov 2017 19:56:17 +0000, Rory Conaway wrote 
>>>>> > Understood.  With the [UTF-8?]Prism’s handling multi-mode, have you 
>>>>> > considered that option? 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > Rory 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
>>>>> > [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David Jones 
>>>>> > Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 12:21 PM 
>>>>> > To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org> 
>>>>> > Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > Well for us it is because we are elevating our units. I also hate the 
>>>>> > locked firmware at and after 6.0.6 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 10:21 AM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net> 
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > Why are you still running 6.0.4? 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > Rory 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org 
>>>>> > [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Troy Gibson, 
>>>>> > Byhalia.net,LLC 
>>>>> > Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 5:31 AM 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org> 
>>>>> > Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > Beta 6 or 7 still does not find 6.0.4.  I have had to go through my 
>>>>> > system to find missing CPE's or APs that were on 6.0.4  Downgraded to 
>>>>> > 5.6.15 for them to be found as I was unsure of the higher 6.0 firmware 
>>>>> > at the time. 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > Troy Gibson 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > -------- Original message -------- 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > From: RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > Date: 11/17/17 4:51 AM (GMT-05:00) 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org> 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > The beta works better. 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 1:48 PM, Phil Curnutt <pcurn...@gmail.com> 
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > AirControl2 2.0.3 is found on Ubnt.com, 
>>>>> > Support>Downloads>AirMax>Utilities.  Your have choices of Linux or 
>>>>> > Windows10 Servers and Clients and Mac Clients.  I found our 900 radios 
>>>>> > on 5.6.9, but not the one on 6.0.4, but I was able to add the device 
>>>>> > manually using v 2.0.2. 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > Phil 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 11:18 AM, Jan Van Kort 
>>>>> > <j.vank...@oregononline.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > I had an earlier version of air control installed and gave up trying to 
>>>>> > make it work over 2 years ago.  Where do i go to get a current version 
>>>>> > of air control so I can try it again?  I'm wandering around the 
>>>>> > ubnt.com website and can't find it.  Does the current version have the 
>>>>> > 6.04 issue? 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > On 08/31/2017 11:05 AM, James Craig via Ubnt_users wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > Hi Guys, 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > This is most likely due to this change in discovery in 6.0.4.  We're 
>>>>> > adding CGN address space in 6.0.7, so moving forward, you will only be 
>>>>> > able to discover from RFC1918 and RFC6598 address. IP range scanning 
>>>>> > should still work. 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> >
>>>>> - Fix: Limit discovery response to queries from private 
>>>>> subnets or 
>>>>> multicast/broadcast
>>>>> 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Troy Gibson, Byhalia.net,LLC 
>>>>> > <t...@byhalia.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > I'm on AC2.1 beta 7 and it won't find any 6.0.4 radios, XW or XM.  I 
>>>>> > had some being monitored on beta 6, so those are still monitored, but 
>>>>> > show in devices not found column of discovery.  TCP scan only showed 
>>>>> > prism radios too. 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > I downgraded to 5.6.15 and it was discovered.  I had to downgrade AP 
>>>>> > and CPE for it to discover the devices on AC. Now to search for the 
>>>>> > missing radios!! 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > Troy 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > -------- Original message -------- 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > From: CBB - Jay Fuller <par...@cyberbroadband.net> 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > Date: 8/31/17 1:25 PM (GMT-05:00) 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org> 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > Subject: [Ubnt_users] aircontrol won't find 6.0.4 devices 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > Been reading all about it in the ubnt forums - but anyone have any 
>>>>> > suggestions around this? 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > Thought I'd post it here too - 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > Haven't run aircontrol since about 18 months ago.  About nine months 
>>>>> > ago I attempted to upgrade to the then current beta but it basically 
>>>>> > corrupted my database and would not even start the server service.  
>>>>> > Last night late I started over again from scratch.  Ran into the 6.0.4 
>>>>> > problem as one of my network segments (from a recent purchase) we have 
>>>>> > manually changed the ip addresses and put them all on  6.0.4 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > A different segment is still running 5.6.3.  I was planning to move 
>>>>> > them all to 6.0.4 and also make a mass change of the username / 
>>>>> > password. 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > Left discovering overnight, found all the devices on 5.6.3 on that 
>>>>> > particular network segment but did not find any 6.0.4 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > Today once googling and discovering this issue I downgraded an AP from 
>>>>> > 6.0.4 to 5.6.3 and discovery found it immediately. 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > I don't want to do this to 300 devices. 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > Aircontrol v.2.0.2.2874.170719.18353 is running on a public IP within 
>>>>> > our network. 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > I tried to new feature tcp scan but no luck (probably because the 
>>>>> > server is in public ip space). 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > I thought about temporarily changing the IP but then radios would be 
>>>>> > reporting to the wrong IP. 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > I can manually add the device but have not found a way to do that in 
>>>>> > bulk. 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > I don't know if it is easier for me to upgrade to something higher than 
>>>>> > 6.0.4 on all of my devices and use discovery or to manually add 300+ 
>>>>> > devices.  I am hoping for another option. 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > Bueller?  Bueller? 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > Thanks 
>>>>> > 
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>>>>> 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > -- 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > -RickG 
>>>>> > 
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>>>>> 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > -- 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > David Jones 
>>>>> > NGL Connection 
>>>>> > 307-288-5491 ext 702 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Joe Portman 
>>>>> Alamo Broadband Inc. 
>>>>> www.alamobroadband.com 
>>>>> 
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