Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports

2016-12-10 Thread Mike Hammett 
I suspect it'll be back in AC at some point, given that with each generation, 
the built-in beamforming gets more robust. 




- 
Mike Hammett 

Intelligent Computing Solutions 


Midwest Internet Exchange 


The Brothers WISP 

- Original Message -

From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org> 
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 11:24:25 AM 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports 


Pretty sure Ubnt ditched beamforming a while ago. 






Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 

On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 12:22 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller < par...@cyberbroadband.net 
> wrote: 





wonder if beamforming is coming for 2.4 ? 



- Original Message - 
From: Josh Luthman 
To: Ubiquiti Users Group 


Sent: Friday, December 9, 2016 7:50 PM 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports 


Replace beam and ubnt ap 


With beam running epmp on epmp ap 


Licensed 27 per sm. 


Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 


On Dec 9, 2016 8:31 PM, "RickG" < rgunder...@gmail.com > wrote: 



With that said, I'm assuming that the elevate! firmware buys you motorola 
proprietary protocol or am I missing something? 


On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 8:26 PM, Josh Luthman < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
wrote: 



Wi-Fi and epmp tdd 


Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 


On Dec 9, 2016 8:18 PM, "RickG" < rgunder...@gmail.com > wrote: 



I'm assuming that's with Airmax off? 


On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Josh Luthman < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
wrote: 



2.4 is Q1 2017 


XM and XW both work 






Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 



On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Blair Davis < the...@wmwisp.net > wrote: 




So, ePMP AP to UBNT CPE... 
Sorta like what Bitlomat was promising a year or two ago?? 
in 2.4GHz? 
Support for XM and XW hardware? 
-- 




On 12/8/2016 10:52 PM, RickG wrote: 



"If you're thinking Ubnt CPE + license to keep costs down I wouldn't waste the 
effort, it's the same price and every db counts." 


The problem is I cant afford the time or dollars for a forklift upgrade. 



On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Josh Luthman < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
wrote: 



Nothing on the AP side. 


The Beam CPE isn't as good as a Force110 or Force200 CPE. I can say for sure a 
couple of db in the antenna. I've heard better filtering/eth protection/etc 
stuff, but that's kind of hard to measure from my point of view. 


If you're thinking Ubnt CPE + license to keep costs down I wouldn't waste the 
effort, it's the same price and every db counts. 






Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 

On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:01 PM, RickG < rgunder...@gmail.com > wrote: 



Yes on one tower. Didnt see any difference. The elevate! program is 
interesting. What do you lose by using a ePMP AP and UBNT CPE? 




On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 8:21 AM, Josh Luthman < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
wrote: 



Have you not deployed any epmp? 


Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 


On Dec 8, 2016 2:05 AM, "RickG" < rgunder...@gmail.com > wrote: 



So, does it fix the problem? 


On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Josh Luthman < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
wrote: 



$30 to fix the problem or $120 + $50 truck roll to fix the problem 






Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 



On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:57 AM, Mike Hammett < wispaubntus...@ics-il.net > 
wrote: 




That's a lot cheaper than a whole CPE plus a truck roll. 




- 
Mike Hammett 

Intelligent Computing Solutions 


Midwest Internet Exchange 


The Brothers WISP 



From: "Stuart Pierce" < spie...@avolve.net > 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" < ubnt_users@wispa.org > 
Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 4:43:50 AM 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports 



Course you have to pay a half to a third per cpe for this option. 

On Tue, December 6, 2016 11:26 pm, RickG wrote: 
> I'm just waiting to hear how well it's working out from all you guinea 
> pigs :P 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 11:13 PM, Josh Luthman 
> < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
> wrote: 
> 
> 
>> Epmp elevate! AP swap done in an hour then go hook up other customers. 
>> 
>> 
>> Sorry I felt obligated since you pointed me out ;) 
>> 
>> 
>> Josh Luthman 
>> Office: 937-552-2340 
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 
>> 1100 Wayne St 
>> Suite 13

Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports

2016-12-09 Thread Stuart Pierce 
Well there won't be any Ubiquiti software on it, it's totally different
firmware. That's why I was asking if the Elevate firmware did something
different to the wireless characteristics.

On Fri, December 9, 2016 8:18 pm, RickG wrote:
> I'm assuming that's with Airmax off?
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Josh Luthman
> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>> 2.4 is Q1 2017
>>
>>
>> XM and XW both work
>>
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Blair Davis <the...@wmwisp.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> So, ePMP AP to UBNT CPE...
>>>
>>>
>>> Sorta like what Bitlomat was promising a year or two ago??
>>>
>>>
>>> in 2.4GHz?
>>>
>>> Support for XM and XW hardware?
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/8/2016 10:52 PM, RickG wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "If you're thinking Ubnt CPE + license to keep costs down I wouldn't
>>> waste the effort, it's the same price and every db counts."
>>>
>>> The problem is I cant afford the time or dollars for a forklift
>>> upgrade.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Josh Luthman
>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>>> Nothing on the AP side.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The Beam CPE isn't as good as a Force110 or Force200 CPE.  I can
>>>> say for sure a couple of db in the antenna.  I've heard better
>>>> filtering/eth protection/etc stuff, but that's kind of hard to
>>>> measure from my point of view.
>>>>
>>>> If you're thinking Ubnt CPE + license to keep costs down I wouldn't
>>>>  waste the effort, it's the same price and every db counts.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:01 PM, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Yes on one tower. Didnt see any difference. The elevate! program
>>>>> is interesting. What do you lose by using a ePMP AP and UBNT CPE?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 8:21 AM, Josh Luthman <
>>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Have you not deployed any epmp?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <%28937%29%20552-2340>
>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <%28937%29%20552-2343>
>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Dec 8, 2016 2:05 AM, "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, does it fix the problem?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Josh Luthman <
>>>>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> $30 to fix the problem or $120 + $50 truck roll to fix the
>>>>>>>> problem
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <%28937%29%20552-2340>
>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <%28937%29%20552-2343>
>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:57 AM, Mike Hammett <
>>>>>>>> wispaubntus...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That's a lot cheaper than a whole CPE plus a truck roll.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>> Mike H

Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports

2016-12-09 Thread RickG 
With that said, I'm assuming that the elevate! firmware buys you motorola
proprietary protocol or am I missing something?

On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 8:26 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
wrote:

> Wi-Fi and epmp tdd
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Dec 9, 2016 8:18 PM, "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm assuming that's with Airmax off?
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> 2.4 is Q1 2017
>>>
>>> XM and XW both work
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Blair Davis <the...@wmwisp.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> So, ePMP AP to UBNT CPE...
>>>>
>>>> Sorta like what Bitlomat was promising a year or two ago??
>>>>
>>>> in 2.4GHz?
>>>>
>>>> Support for XM and XW hardware?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> On 12/8/2016 10:52 PM, RickG wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "If you're thinking Ubnt CPE + license to keep costs down I wouldn't
>>>> waste the effort, it's the same price and every db counts."
>>>>
>>>> The problem is I cant afford the time or dollars for a forklift upgrade.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Josh Luthman <
>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Nothing on the AP side.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Beam CPE isn't as good as a Force110 or Force200 CPE.  I can say
>>>>> for sure a couple of db in the antenna.  I've heard better filtering/eth
>>>>> protection/etc stuff, but that's kind of hard to measure from my point of
>>>>> view.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you're thinking Ubnt CPE + license to keep costs down I wouldn't
>>>>> waste the effort, it's the same price and every db counts.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:01 PM, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes on one tower. Didnt see any difference. The elevate! program is
>>>>>> interesting. What do you lose by using a ePMP AP and UBNT CPE?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 8:21 AM, Josh Luthman <
>>>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Have you not deployed any epmp?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <%28937%29%20552-2340>
>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <%28937%29%20552-2343>
>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Dec 8, 2016 2:05 AM, "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So, does it fix the problem?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Josh Luthman <
>>>>>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> $30 to fix the problem or $120 + $50 truck roll to fix the problem
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <%28937%29%20552-2340>
>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <%28937%29%20552-2343>
>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:57 AM, Mike Hammett <
>>>>>>>>> wispaubntus...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>

Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports

2016-12-09 Thread RickG 
I'm assuming that's with Airmax off?

On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
wrote:

> 2.4 is Q1 2017
>
> XM and XW both work
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Blair Davis <the...@wmwisp.net> wrote:
>
>> So, ePMP AP to UBNT CPE...
>>
>> Sorta like what Bitlomat was promising a year or two ago??
>>
>> in 2.4GHz?
>>
>> Support for XM and XW hardware?
>>
>> --
>>
>> On 12/8/2016 10:52 PM, RickG wrote:
>>
>> "If you're thinking Ubnt CPE + license to keep costs down I wouldn't
>> waste the effort, it's the same price and every db counts."
>>
>> The problem is I cant afford the time or dollars for a forklift upgrade.
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Nothing on the AP side.
>>>
>>> The Beam CPE isn't as good as a Force110 or Force200 CPE.  I can say for
>>> sure a couple of db in the antenna.  I've heard better filtering/eth
>>> protection/etc stuff, but that's kind of hard to measure from my point of
>>> view.
>>>
>>> If you're thinking Ubnt CPE + license to keep costs down I wouldn't
>>> waste the effort, it's the same price and every db counts.
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:01 PM, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes on one tower. Didnt see any difference. The elevate! program is
>>>> interesting. What do you lose by using a ePMP AP and UBNT CPE?
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 8:21 AM, Josh Luthman <
>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Have you not deployed any epmp?
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <%28937%29%20552-2340>
>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <%28937%29%20552-2343>
>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 8, 2016 2:05 AM, "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> So, does it fix the problem?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Josh Luthman <
>>>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> $30 to fix the problem or $120 + $50 truck roll to fix the problem
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <%28937%29%20552-2340>
>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <%28937%29%20552-2343>
>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:57 AM, Mike Hammett <
>>>>>>> wispaubntus...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's a lot cheaper than a whole CPE plus a truck roll.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>>>>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>>>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>>>>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>>>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>>>>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>>>&

Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports

2016-12-09 Thread Josh Luthman 
2.4 is Q1 2017

XM and XW both work


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Blair Davis <the...@wmwisp.net> wrote:

> So, ePMP AP to UBNT CPE...
>
> Sorta like what Bitlomat was promising a year or two ago??
>
> in 2.4GHz?
>
> Support for XM and XW hardware?
>
> --
>
> On 12/8/2016 10:52 PM, RickG wrote:
>
> "If you're thinking Ubnt CPE + license to keep costs down I wouldn't waste
> the effort, it's the same price and every db counts."
>
> The problem is I cant afford the time or dollars for a forklift upgrade.
>
> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Nothing on the AP side.
>>
>> The Beam CPE isn't as good as a Force110 or Force200 CPE.  I can say for
>> sure a couple of db in the antenna.  I've heard better filtering/eth
>> protection/etc stuff, but that's kind of hard to measure from my point of
>> view.
>>
>> If you're thinking Ubnt CPE + license to keep costs down I wouldn't waste
>> the effort, it's the same price and every db counts.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:01 PM, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes on one tower. Didnt see any difference. The elevate! program is
>>> interesting. What do you lose by using a ePMP AP and UBNT CPE?
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 8:21 AM, Josh Luthman <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Have you not deployed any epmp?
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <%28937%29%20552-2340>
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <%28937%29%20552-2343>
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 8, 2016 2:05 AM, "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So, does it fix the problem?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Josh Luthman <
>>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> $30 to fix the problem or $120 + $50 truck roll to fix the problem
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <%28937%29%20552-2340>
>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <%28937%29%20552-2343>
>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:57 AM, Mike Hammett <
>>>>>> wispaubntus...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's a lot cheaper than a whole CPE plus a truck roll.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>>>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>>>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>>>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> *From: *"Stuart Pierce" <spie...@avolve.net>
>>>>>>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
>>>>>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, December 7, 2016 4:43:50 AM
>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Course you have t

Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports

2016-12-09 Thread Blair Davis 

So, ePMP AP to UBNT CPE...

Sorta like what Bitlomat was promising a year or two ago??

in 2.4GHz?

Support for XM and XW hardware?

--


On 12/8/2016 10:52 PM, RickG wrote:
"If you're thinking Ubnt CPE + license to keep costs down I wouldn't 
waste the effort, it's the same price and every db counts."


The problem is I cant afford the time or dollars for a forklift upgrade.

On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Josh Luthman 
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:


Nothing on the AP side.

The Beam CPE isn't as good as a Force110 or Force200 CPE.  I can
say for sure a couple of db in the antenna.  I've heard better
filtering/eth protection/etc stuff, but that's kind of hard to
measure from my point of view.

If you're thinking Ubnt CPE + license to keep costs down I
wouldn't waste the effort, it's the same price and every db counts.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:01 PM, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com
<mailto:rgunder...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Yes on one tower. Didnt see any difference. The elevate!
program is interesting. What do you lose by using a ePMP AP
and UBNT CPE?

On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 8:21 AM, Josh Luthman
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:

Have you not deployed any epmp?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:%28937%29%20552-2340>
Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:%28937%29%20552-2343>
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Dec 8, 2016 2:05 AM, "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com
<mailto:rgunder...@gmail.com>> wrote:

So, does it fix the problem?

On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Josh Luthman
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:

$30 to fix the problem or $120 + $50 truck roll to
fix the problem


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:%28937%29%20552-2340>
Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:%28937%29%20552-2343>
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:57 AM, Mike Hammett
<wispaubntus...@ics-il.net
<mailto:wispaubntus...@ics-il.net>> wrote:

That's a lot cheaper than a whole CPE plus a
truck roll.



-
Mike Hammett

Intelligent Computing Solutions
<http://www.ics-il.com/>

<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>

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*From: *"Stuart Pierce" <spie...@avolve.net
<mailto:spie...@avolve.net>>
*To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group"
            <ubnt_users@wispa.org
<mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>>
*Sent: *Wednesday, December 7, 2016 4:43:50 AM
*Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports


Course you have to pay a half to a third per
cpe for this option.

On Tue, December 6, 2016 11:26 pm, RickG wrote:
> I'm just waiting to hear how well it's
working out from all you guinea
> pigs :P
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 11:13 PM, Josh Luthman
> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>
> wrote:
>

Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports

2016-12-09 Thread Stuart Pierce 
The latest betas of each branch have been working pretty good for me, the
RC's not so good, to many drops.

On Fri, December 9, 2016 12:08 pm, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:
>

>
> We are still on 5.6.3 because of these reports
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Justin Wilson
> To: Ubiquiti Users Group
> Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 3:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports
>
>
>
> Some folks have reported this with 5.6.9. Some folks are going back to
> 5.6.5.
>
>
> Justin Wilson
> j...@mtin.net
>
> ---
> http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO
> xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth
>
> http://www.midwest-ix.com  COO/Chairman
> Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric
>
>
>> On Dec 6, 2016, at 4:30 PM, Steve Barnes <st...@pcswin.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Since all our customer facing stuff was running 10MHz channels and
>> Airmax we had not applied Wireless Security.  We decided to start
>> adding security to all clients.  (backhauls already had security)
>>
>> Since applying WPA2-AES to all our Rocket M5 APs and CPEs (5.6.9 ALL)
>> we have been getting lots of Crash reports on the AP side an some one
>> the CPE.  Also have had several AP’s just stop passing traffic till
>> they were rebooted.  Funky communication with AC2 and all around
>> goofiness of our network that we never had without security.
>>
>> Giving lots of consideration to reversing this decision.  Any thoughts
>> or ideas?
>>
>> P.S.  ePMP is not an answer Josh.  ☺
>>
>>
>> Steve Barnes
>> Wireless Operations Manager
>> New Lisbon Broadband
>> NLBC.COM
>> PCSWIN.COM
>> 765-584-2288 ext:1101
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports

2016-12-09 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller 

I think with the 3.2 upgraded EPMP could be an answer lol
That being said, we run maybe 40 EPMP radios and probably 300 ubnt airmax 
radios in 2.4 ;)

  - Original Message - 
  From: Steve Barnes 
  To: 'Ubiquiti Users Group (ubnt_users@wispa.org)' 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 3:30 PM
  Subject: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports


  Since all our customer facing stuff was running 10MHz channels and Airmax we 
had not applied Wireless Security.  We decided to start adding security to all 
clients.  (backhauls already had security)

  Since applying WPA2-AES to all our Rocket M5 APs and CPEs (5.6.9 ALL) we have 
been getting lots of Crash reports on the AP side an some one the CPE.  Also 
have had several AP’s just stop passing traffic till they were rebooted.  Funky 
communication with AC2 and all around goofiness of our network that we never 
had without security.

  Giving lots of consideration to reversing this decision.  Any thoughts or 
ideas?

  P.S.  ePMP is not an answer Josh.  ☺

  Steve Barnes
  Wireless Operations Manager
  New Lisbon Broadband
  NLBC.COM
  PCSWIN.COM
  765-584-2288 ext:1101



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Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports

2016-12-09 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller 


We are still on 5.6.3 because of these reports

  - Original Message - 
  From: Justin Wilson 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 3:38 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports


  Some folks have reported this with 5.6.9. Some folks are going back to 5.6.5.

  Justin Wilson
  j...@mtin.net

  ---
  http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO
  xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth

  http://www.midwest-ix.com  COO/Chairman
  Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric

  > On Dec 6, 2016, at 4:30 PM, Steve Barnes <st...@pcswin.com> wrote:
  > 
  > Since all our customer facing stuff was running 10MHz channels and Airmax 
we had not applied Wireless Security.  We decided to start adding security to 
all clients.  (backhauls already had security)
  > 
  > Since applying WPA2-AES to all our Rocket M5 APs and CPEs (5.6.9 ALL) we 
have been getting lots of Crash reports on the AP side an some one the CPE.  
Also have had several AP’s just stop passing traffic till they were rebooted.  
Funky communication with AC2 and all around goofiness of our network that we 
never had without security.
  > 
  > Giving lots of consideration to reversing this decision.  Any thoughts or 
ideas?
  > 
  > P.S.  ePMP is not an answer Josh.  ☺
  > 
  > Steve Barnes
  > Wireless Operations Manager
  > New Lisbon Broadband
  > NLBC.COM
  > PCSWIN.COM
  > 765-584-2288 ext:1101
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports

2016-12-09 Thread Josh Luthman 
;>> problem
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
> >>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> >>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> >>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
> >>>>>>>> Suite 1337
> >>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:57 AM, Mike Hammett <
> >>>>>>>> wispaubntus...@ics-il.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> That's a lot cheaper than a whole CPE plus a truck roll.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> -
> >>>>>>>>> Mike Hammett
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> >>>>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> >>>>>>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeK
> >>>>>>>>> alb>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-s
> >>>>>>>>> olut ions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> >>>>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> >>>>>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchang
> >>>>>>>>> e> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> >>>>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
> >>>>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> >>>>>>>>>  --
> >>>>>>>>> *From: *"Stuart Pierce" <spie...@avolve.net>
> >>>>>>>>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
> >>>>>>>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, December 7, 2016 4:43:50 AM
> >>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Course you have to pay a half to a third per cpe for this
> >>>>>>>>>  option.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, December 6, 2016 11:26 pm, RickG wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I'm just waiting to hear how well it's working out from
> >>>>>>>>>> all you
> >>>>>>>>> guinea
> >>>>>>>>>> pigs :P
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 11:13 PM, Josh Luthman
> >>>>>>>>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Epmp elevate!  AP swap done in an hour then go hook
> >>>>>>>>>>> up other
> >>>>>>>>> customers.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Sorry I felt obligated since you pointed me out ;)
> >>>>&

Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports

2016-12-09 Thread Mike Hammett 
It turns a UBNT CPE into an ePMP CPE. 




- 
Mike Hammett 

Intelligent Computing Solutions 


Midwest Internet Exchange 


The Brothers WISP 

- Original Message -

From: "Stuart Pierce" <spie...@avolve.net> 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org> 
Sent: Friday, December 9, 2016 4:39:15 AM 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports 

Does Elevate change the wireless aspect of the UBNT device so that it 
makes it perform better? 

Besides the sync of the AP of which you have to have two of to enter into 
any performance question, if Elevate doesn't help the wireless performance 
of the UBNT device, then why put it on? 

I thought you could already put the Cambium in wifi mode and connect 
Ubiquiti devices, or maybe it's the 'Airmax' function or as I like to call 
it the 'moderator' function at a debate. 


On Thu, December 8, 2016 10:52 pm, RickG wrote: 
> "If you're thinking Ubnt CPE + license to keep costs down I wouldn't 
> waste the effort, it's the same price and every db counts." 
> 
> The problem is I cant afford the time or dollars for a forklift upgrade. 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Josh Luthman 
> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> 
> wrote: 
> 
> 
>> Nothing on the AP side. 
>> 
>> 
>> The Beam CPE isn't as good as a Force110 or Force200 CPE. I can say 
>> for sure a couple of db in the antenna. I've heard better filtering/eth 
>> protection/etc stuff, but that's kind of hard to measure from my point 
>> of view. 
>> 
>> If you're thinking Ubnt CPE + license to keep costs down I wouldn't 
>> waste the effort, it's the same price and every db counts. 
>> 
>> 
>> Josh Luthman 
>> Office: 937-552-2340 
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 
>> 1100 Wayne St 
>> Suite 1337 
>> Troy, OH 45373 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:01 PM, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>> 
>> 
>>> Yes on one tower. Didnt see any difference. The elevate! program is 
>>> interesting. What do you lose by using a ePMP AP and UBNT CPE? 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 8:21 AM, Josh Luthman 
>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
>>> 
>>>> wrote: 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Have you not deployed any epmp? 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Josh Luthman 
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340> 
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343> 
>>>> 1100 Wayne St 
>>>> Suite 1337 
>>>> Troy, OH 45373 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Dec 8, 2016 2:05 AM, "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> So, does it fix the problem? 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Josh Luthman < 
>>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> $30 to fix the problem or $120 + $50 truck roll to fix the 
>>>>>> problem 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Josh Luthman 
>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340> 
>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343> 
>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St 
>>>>>> Suite 1337 
>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:57 AM, Mike Hammett < 
>>>>>> wispaubntus...@ics-il.net> wrote: 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> That's a lot cheaper than a whole CPE plus a truck roll. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> - 
>>>>>>> Mike Hammett 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> 
>>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> 
>>>>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solut 
>>>>>>> ions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> 
>>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> 
>>>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> 
>>>>>&

Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports

2016-12-09 Thread Stuart Pierce 
Does Elevate change the wireless aspect of the UBNT device so that it
makes it perform better?

Besides the sync of the AP of which you have to have two of to enter into
any performance question, if Elevate doesn't help the wireless performance
of the UBNT device, then why put it on?

I thought you could already put the Cambium in wifi mode and connect
Ubiquiti devices, or maybe it's the 'Airmax' function or as I like to call
it the 'moderator' function at a debate.


On Thu, December 8, 2016 10:52 pm, RickG wrote:
> "If you're thinking Ubnt CPE + license to keep costs down I wouldn't
> waste the effort, it's the same price and every db counts."
>
> The problem is I cant afford the time or dollars for a forklift upgrade.
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Josh Luthman
> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>> Nothing on the AP side.
>>
>>
>> The Beam CPE isn't as good as a Force110 or Force200 CPE.  I can say
>> for sure a couple of db in the antenna.  I've heard better filtering/eth
>>  protection/etc stuff, but that's kind of hard to measure from my point
>> of view.
>>
>> If you're thinking Ubnt CPE + license to keep costs down I wouldn't
>> waste the effort, it's the same price and every db counts.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:01 PM, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Yes on one tower. Didnt see any difference. The elevate! program is
>>> interesting. What do you lose by using a ePMP AP and UBNT CPE?
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 8:21 AM, Josh Luthman
>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>>> Have you not deployed any epmp?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 8, 2016 2:05 AM, "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> So, does it fix the problem?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Josh Luthman <
>>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> $30 to fix the problem or $120 + $50 truck roll to fix the
>>>>>> problem
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:57 AM, Mike Hammett <
>>>>>> wispaubntus...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's a lot cheaper than a whole CPE plus a truck roll.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>>>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solut
>>>>>>> ions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>>>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> *From: *"Stuart Pierce" <

Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports

2016-12-08 Thread RickG 
"If you're thinking Ubnt CPE + license to keep costs down I wouldn't waste
the effort, it's the same price and every db counts."

The problem is I cant afford the time or dollars for a forklift upgrade.

On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
wrote:

> Nothing on the AP side.
>
> The Beam CPE isn't as good as a Force110 or Force200 CPE.  I can say for
> sure a couple of db in the antenna.  I've heard better filtering/eth
> protection/etc stuff, but that's kind of hard to measure from my point of
> view.
>
> If you're thinking Ubnt CPE + license to keep costs down I wouldn't waste
> the effort, it's the same price and every db counts.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:01 PM, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes on one tower. Didnt see any difference. The elevate! program is
>> interesting. What do you lose by using a ePMP AP and UBNT CPE?
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 8:21 AM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Have you not deployed any epmp?
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Dec 8, 2016 2:05 AM, "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> So, does it fix the problem?
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Josh Luthman <
>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> $30 to fix the problem or $120 + $50 truck roll to fix the problem
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:57 AM, Mike Hammett <
>>>>> wispaubntus...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> That's a lot cheaper than a whole CPE plus a truck roll.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -
>>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> *From: *"Stuart Pierce" <spie...@avolve.net>
>>>>>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
>>>>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, December 7, 2016 4:43:50 AM
>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Course you have to pay a half to a third per cpe for this option.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, December 6, 2016 11:26 pm, RickG wrote:
>>>>>> > I'm just waiting to hear how well it's working out from all you
>>>>>> guinea
>>>>>> > pigs :P
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 11:13 PM, Josh Luthman
>>>>>> > <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> Epmp elevate!  AP swap done in an hour then go hook up other
>>>>>> customers.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Sorry I felt obligated since you p

Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports

2016-12-08 Thread Josh Luthman 
Nothing on the AP side.

The Beam CPE isn't as good as a Force110 or Force200 CPE.  I can say for
sure a couple of db in the antenna.  I've heard better filtering/eth
protection/etc stuff, but that's kind of hard to measure from my point of
view.

If you're thinking Ubnt CPE + license to keep costs down I wouldn't waste
the effort, it's the same price and every db counts.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:01 PM, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes on one tower. Didnt see any difference. The elevate! program is
> interesting. What do you lose by using a ePMP AP and UBNT CPE?
>
> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 8:21 AM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Have you not deployed any epmp?
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Dec 8, 2016 2:05 AM, "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> So, does it fix the problem?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Josh Luthman <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> $30 to fix the problem or $120 + $50 truck roll to fix the problem
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:57 AM, Mike Hammett <wispaubntus...@ics-il.net
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> That's a lot cheaper than a whole CPE plus a truck roll.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -
>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>>
>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>>>
>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>>>
>>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>>>> --
>>>>> *From: *"Stuart Pierce" <spie...@avolve.net>
>>>>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
>>>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, December 7, 2016 4:43:50 AM
>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Course you have to pay a half to a third per cpe for this option.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, December 6, 2016 11:26 pm, RickG wrote:
>>>>> > I'm just waiting to hear how well it's working out from all you
>>>>> guinea
>>>>> > pigs :P
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 11:13 PM, Josh Luthman
>>>>> > <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> Epmp elevate!  AP swap done in an hour then go hook up other
>>>>> customers.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Sorry I felt obligated since you pointed me out ;)
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Josh Luthman
>>>>> >> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>>>>> >> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>>>>> >> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>> >> Suite 1337
>>>>> >> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On Dec 6, 2016 11:10 PM, "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> +1!
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>

Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports

2016-12-08 Thread RickG 
Yes on one tower. Didnt see any difference. The elevate! program is
interesting. What do you lose by using a ePMP AP and UBNT CPE?

On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 8:21 AM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
wrote:

> Have you not deployed any epmp?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Dec 8, 2016 2:05 AM, "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> So, does it fix the problem?
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> $30 to fix the problem or $120 + $50 truck roll to fix the problem
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:57 AM, Mike Hammett <wispaubntus...@ics-il.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> That's a lot cheaper than a whole CPE plus a truck roll.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>>
>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>>
>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>>> --
>>>> *From: *"Stuart Pierce" <spie...@avolve.net>
>>>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
>>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, December 7, 2016 4:43:50 AM
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Course you have to pay a half to a third per cpe for this option.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, December 6, 2016 11:26 pm, RickG wrote:
>>>> > I'm just waiting to hear how well it's working out from all you guinea
>>>> > pigs :P
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 11:13 PM, Josh Luthman
>>>> > <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >> Epmp elevate!  AP swap done in an hour then go hook up other
>>>> customers.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Sorry I felt obligated since you pointed me out ;)
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Josh Luthman
>>>> >> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>>>> >> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>>>> >> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> >> Suite 1337
>>>> >> Troy, OH 45373
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Dec 6, 2016 11:10 PM, "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> +1!
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Steve Barnes <st...@pcswin.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> Since all our customer facing stuff was running 10MHz channels and
>>>> >>> Airmax
>>>> >>> we had not applied Wireless Security.  We decided to start adding
>>>> >>> security to all clients.  (backhauls already had security)
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Since applying WPA2-AES to all our Rocket M5 APs and CPEs (5.6.9
>>>> ALL)
>>>> >>> we have been getting lots of Crash reports on the AP side an some
>>>> one
>>>> >>> the CPE.  Also have had several AP’s just stop passing traffic till
>>>> >>> they were rebooted.  Funky communication with AC2 and all around
>>>> >

Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports

2016-12-07 Thread RickG 
So, does it fix the problem?

On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
wrote:

> $30 to fix the problem or $120 + $50 truck roll to fix the problem
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:57 AM, Mike Hammett <wispaubntus...@ics-il.net>
> wrote:
>
>> That's a lot cheaper than a whole CPE plus a truck roll.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>>
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>
>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>
>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>> --
>> *From: *"Stuart Pierce" <spie...@avolve.net>
>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
>> *Sent: *Wednesday, December 7, 2016 4:43:50 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports
>>
>>
>> Course you have to pay a half to a third per cpe for this option.
>>
>> On Tue, December 6, 2016 11:26 pm, RickG wrote:
>> > I'm just waiting to hear how well it's working out from all you guinea
>> > pigs :P
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 11:13 PM, Josh Luthman
>> > <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >> Epmp elevate!  AP swap done in an hour then go hook up other customers.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Sorry I felt obligated since you pointed me out ;)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Josh Luthman
>> >> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>> >> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>> >> 1100 Wayne St
>> >> Suite 1337
>> >> Troy, OH 45373
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Dec 6, 2016 11:10 PM, "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> +1!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Steve Barnes <st...@pcswin.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> Since all our customer facing stuff was running 10MHz channels and
>> >>> Airmax
>> >>> we had not applied Wireless Security.  We decided to start adding
>> >>> security to all clients.  (backhauls already had security)
>> >>>
>> >>> Since applying WPA2-AES to all our Rocket M5 APs and CPEs (5.6.9 ALL)
>> >>> we have been getting lots of Crash reports on the AP side an some one
>> >>> the CPE.  Also have had several AP’s just stop passing traffic till
>> >>> they were rebooted.  Funky communication with AC2 and all around
>> >>> goofiness of our network that we never had without security.
>> >>>
>> >>> Giving lots of consideration to reversing this decision.  Any
>> >>> thoughts or ideas?
>> >>>
>> >>> P.S.  ePMP is not an answer Josh.  ☺
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Steve Barnes
>> >>> Wireless Operations Manager
>> >>> New Lisbon Broadband
>> >>> NLBC.COM
>> >>> PCSWIN.COM
>> >>> 765-584-2288 ext:1101 <(765)%20584-2288> <(765)%20584-2288>
>> >>>
>> >>>
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>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
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>> >>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports

2016-12-07 Thread Josh Luthman 
$30 to fix the problem or $120 + $50 truck roll to fix the problem


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:57 AM, Mike Hammett <wispaubntus...@ics-il.net>
wrote:

> That's a lot cheaper than a whole CPE plus a truck roll.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
>
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> --
> *From: *"Stuart Pierce" <spie...@avolve.net>
> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
> *Sent: *Wednesday, December 7, 2016 4:43:50 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports
>
>
> Course you have to pay a half to a third per cpe for this option.
>
> On Tue, December 6, 2016 11:26 pm, RickG wrote:
> > I'm just waiting to hear how well it's working out from all you guinea
> > pigs :P
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 11:13 PM, Josh Luthman
> > <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Epmp elevate!  AP swap done in an hour then go hook up other customers.
> >>
> >>
> >> Sorry I felt obligated since you pointed me out ;)
> >>
> >>
> >> Josh Luthman
> >> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> >> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> >> 1100 Wayne St
> >> Suite 1337
> >> Troy, OH 45373
> >>
> >>
> >> On Dec 6, 2016 11:10 PM, "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> +1!
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Steve Barnes <st...@pcswin.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Since all our customer facing stuff was running 10MHz channels and
> >>> Airmax
> >>> we had not applied Wireless Security.  We decided to start adding
> >>> security to all clients.  (backhauls already had security)
> >>>
> >>> Since applying WPA2-AES to all our Rocket M5 APs and CPEs (5.6.9 ALL)
> >>> we have been getting lots of Crash reports on the AP side an some one
> >>> the CPE.  Also have had several AP’s just stop passing traffic till
> >>> they were rebooted.  Funky communication with AC2 and all around
> >>> goofiness of our network that we never had without security.
> >>>
> >>> Giving lots of consideration to reversing this decision.  Any
> >>> thoughts or ideas?
> >>>
> >>> P.S.  ePMP is not an answer Josh.  ☺
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Steve Barnes
> >>> Wireless Operations Manager
> >>> New Lisbon Broadband
> >>> NLBC.COM
> >>> PCSWIN.COM
> >>> 765-584-2288 ext:1101 <(765)%20584-2288> <(765)%20584-2288>
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
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> >>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports

2016-12-07 Thread Mike Hammett 
That's a lot cheaper than a whole CPE plus a truck roll. 




- 
Mike Hammett 

Intelligent Computing Solutions 


Midwest Internet Exchange 


The Brothers WISP 

- Original Message -

From: "Stuart Pierce" <spie...@avolve.net> 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org> 
Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 4:43:50 AM 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports 

Course you have to pay a half to a third per cpe for this option. 

On Tue, December 6, 2016 11:26 pm, RickG wrote: 
> I'm just waiting to hear how well it's working out from all you guinea 
> pigs :P 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 11:13 PM, Josh Luthman 
> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> 
> wrote: 
> 
> 
>> Epmp elevate! AP swap done in an hour then go hook up other customers. 
>> 
>> 
>> Sorry I felt obligated since you pointed me out ;) 
>> 
>> 
>> Josh Luthman 
>> Office: 937-552-2340 
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 
>> 1100 Wayne St 
>> Suite 1337 
>> Troy, OH 45373 
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 6, 2016 11:10 PM, "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>> 
>> 
>> +1! 
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Steve Barnes <st...@pcswin.com> wrote: 
>> 
>> 
>>> Since all our customer facing stuff was running 10MHz channels and 
>>> Airmax 
>>> we had not applied Wireless Security. We decided to start adding 
>>> security to all clients. (backhauls already had security) 
>>> 
>>> Since applying WPA2-AES to all our Rocket M5 APs and CPEs (5.6.9 ALL) 
>>> we have been getting lots of Crash reports on the AP side an some one 
>>> the CPE. Also have had several AP’s just stop passing traffic till 
>>> they were rebooted. Funky communication with AC2 and all around 
>>> goofiness of our network that we never had without security. 
>>> 
>>> Giving lots of consideration to reversing this decision. Any 
>>> thoughts or ideas? 
>>> 
>>> P.S. ePMP is not an answer Josh. ☺ 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Steve Barnes 
>>> Wireless Operations Manager 
>>> New Lisbon Broadband 
>>> NLBC.COM 
>>> PCSWIN.COM 
>>> 765-584-2288 ext:1101 <(765)%20584-2288> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
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>> 
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports

2016-12-07 Thread Stuart Pierce 
Course you have to pay a half to a third per cpe for this option.

On Tue, December 6, 2016 11:26 pm, RickG wrote:
> I'm just waiting to hear how well it's working out from all you guinea
> pigs :P
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 11:13 PM, Josh Luthman
> 
> wrote:
>
>
>> Epmp elevate!  AP swap done in an hour then go hook up other customers.
>>
>>
>> Sorry I felt obligated since you pointed me out ;)
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>> On Dec 6, 2016 11:10 PM, "RickG"  wrote:
>>
>>
>> +1!
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Steve Barnes  wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Since all our customer facing stuff was running 10MHz channels and
>>> Airmax
>>> we had not applied Wireless Security.  We decided to start adding
>>> security to all clients.  (backhauls already had security)
>>>
>>> Since applying WPA2-AES to all our Rocket M5 APs and CPEs (5.6.9 ALL)
>>> we have been getting lots of Crash reports on the AP side an some one
>>> the CPE.  Also have had several AP’s just stop passing traffic till
>>> they were rebooted.  Funky communication with AC2 and all around
>>> goofiness of our network that we never had without security.
>>>
>>> Giving lots of consideration to reversing this decision.  Any
>>> thoughts or ideas?
>>>
>>> P.S.  ePMP is not an answer Josh.  ☺
>>>
>>>
>>> Steve Barnes
>>> Wireless Operations Manager
>>> New Lisbon Broadband
>>> NLBC.COM
>>> PCSWIN.COM
>>> 765-584-2288 ext:1101 <(765)%20584-2288>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>
>>
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>>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports

2016-12-06 Thread RickG 
If I had a dollar for every time I heard that! Are you swapping out your
whole network?

On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 11:57 PM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> The guinea pigs did that before announcement and public availability.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Dec 6, 2016 11:26 PM, "RickG"  wrote:
>
>> I'm just waiting to hear how well it's working out from all you guinea
>> pigs :P
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 11:13 PM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Epmp elevate!  AP swap done in an hour then go hook up other customers.
>>>
>>> Sorry I felt obligated since you pointed me out ;)
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Dec 6, 2016 11:10 PM, "RickG"  wrote:
>>>
>>> +1!
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Steve Barnes  wrote:
>>>
 Since all our customer facing stuff was running 10MHz channels and
 Airmax we had not applied Wireless Security.  We decided to start adding
 security to all clients.  (backhauls already had security)

 Since applying WPA2-AES to all our Rocket M5 APs and CPEs (5.6.9 ALL)
 we have been getting lots of Crash reports on the AP side an some one the
 CPE.  Also have had several AP’s just stop passing traffic till they were
 rebooted.  Funky communication with AC2 and all around goofiness of our
 network that we never had without security.

 Giving lots of consideration to reversing this decision.  Any thoughts
 or ideas?

 P.S.  ePMP is not an answer Josh.  ☺

 Steve Barnes
 Wireless Operations Manager
 New Lisbon Broadband
 NLBC.COM
 PCSWIN.COM
 765-584-2288 ext:1101 <(765)%20584-2288>

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Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports

2016-12-06 Thread Josh Luthman 
The guinea pigs did that before announcement and public availability.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Dec 6, 2016 11:26 PM, "RickG"  wrote:

> I'm just waiting to hear how well it's working out from all you guinea
> pigs :P
>
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 11:13 PM, Josh Luthman  > wrote:
>
>> Epmp elevate!  AP swap done in an hour then go hook up other customers.
>>
>> Sorry I felt obligated since you pointed me out ;)
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Dec 6, 2016 11:10 PM, "RickG"  wrote:
>>
>> +1!
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Steve Barnes  wrote:
>>
>>> Since all our customer facing stuff was running 10MHz channels and
>>> Airmax we had not applied Wireless Security.  We decided to start adding
>>> security to all clients.  (backhauls already had security)
>>>
>>> Since applying WPA2-AES to all our Rocket M5 APs and CPEs (5.6.9 ALL) we
>>> have been getting lots of Crash reports on the AP side an some one the
>>> CPE.  Also have had several AP’s just stop passing traffic till they were
>>> rebooted.  Funky communication with AC2 and all around goofiness of our
>>> network that we never had without security.
>>>
>>> Giving lots of consideration to reversing this decision.  Any thoughts
>>> or ideas?
>>>
>>> P.S.  ePMP is not an answer Josh.  ☺
>>>
>>> Steve Barnes
>>> Wireless Operations Manager
>>> New Lisbon Broadband
>>> NLBC.COM
>>> PCSWIN.COM
>>> 765-584-2288 ext:1101 <(765)%20584-2288>
>>>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports

2016-12-06 Thread Josh Luthman 
Epmp elevate!  AP swap done in an hour then go hook up other customers.

Sorry I felt obligated since you pointed me out ;)

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Dec 6, 2016 11:10 PM, "RickG"  wrote:

+1!

On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Steve Barnes  wrote:

> Since all our customer facing stuff was running 10MHz channels and Airmax
> we had not applied Wireless Security.  We decided to start adding security
> to all clients.  (backhauls already had security)
>
> Since applying WPA2-AES to all our Rocket M5 APs and CPEs (5.6.9 ALL) we
> have been getting lots of Crash reports on the AP side an some one the
> CPE.  Also have had several AP’s just stop passing traffic till they were
> rebooted.  Funky communication with AC2 and all around goofiness of our
> network that we never had without security.
>
> Giving lots of consideration to reversing this decision.  Any thoughts or
> ideas?
>
> P.S.  ePMP is not an answer Josh.  ☺
>
> Steve Barnes
> Wireless Operations Manager
> New Lisbon Broadband
> NLBC.COM
> PCSWIN.COM
> 765-584-2288 ext:1101 <(765)%20584-2288>
>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports

2016-12-06 Thread RickG 
+1!

On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Steve Barnes  wrote:

> Since all our customer facing stuff was running 10MHz channels and Airmax
> we had not applied Wireless Security.  We decided to start adding security
> to all clients.  (backhauls already had security)
>
> Since applying WPA2-AES to all our Rocket M5 APs and CPEs (5.6.9 ALL) we
> have been getting lots of Crash reports on the AP side an some one the
> CPE.  Also have had several AP’s just stop passing traffic till they were
> rebooted.  Funky communication with AC2 and all around goofiness of our
> network that we never had without security.
>
> Giving lots of consideration to reversing this decision.  Any thoughts or
> ideas?
>
> P.S.  ePMP is not an answer Josh.  ☺
>
> Steve Barnes
> Wireless Operations Manager
> New Lisbon Broadband
> NLBC.COM
> PCSWIN.COM
> 765-584-2288 ext:1101
>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports

2016-12-06 Thread James Craig via Ubnt_users 
Hey Steve,

We've resolved most of these in the airOS6 branch.  I'd like to get a few
.sup files to see if this has already been addressed.  Sending a follow-up
email.

On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Steve Barnes  wrote:

> Since all our customer facing stuff was running 10MHz channels and Airmax
> we had not applied Wireless Security.  We decided to start adding security
> to all clients.  (backhauls already had security)
>
> Since applying WPA2-AES to all our Rocket M5 APs and CPEs (5.6.9 ALL) we
> have been getting lots of Crash reports on the AP side an some one the
> CPE.  Also have had several AP’s just stop passing traffic till they were
> rebooted.  Funky communication with AC2 and all around goofiness of our
> network that we never had without security.
>
> Giving lots of consideration to reversing this decision.  Any thoughts or
> ideas?
>
> P.S.  ePMP is not an answer Josh.  ☺
>
> Steve Barnes
> Wireless Operations Manager
> New Lisbon Broadband
> NLBC.COM
> PCSWIN.COM
> 765-584-2288 ext:1101
>
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