With that said, I'm assuming that the elevate! firmware buys you motorola
proprietary protocol or am I missing something?

On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 8:26 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
wrote:

> Wi-Fi and epmp tdd
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
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>
> On Dec 9, 2016 8:18 PM, "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm assuming that's with Airmax off?
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> 2.4 is Q1 2017
>>>
>>> XM and XW both work
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Blair Davis <the...@wmwisp.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> So, ePMP AP to UBNT CPE...
>>>>
>>>> Sorta like what Bitlomat was promising a year or two ago??
>>>>
>>>> in 2.4GHz?
>>>>
>>>> Support for XM and XW hardware?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> On 12/8/2016 10:52 PM, RickG wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "If you're thinking Ubnt CPE + license to keep costs down I wouldn't
>>>> waste the effort, it's the same price and every db counts."
>>>>
>>>> The problem is I cant afford the time or dollars for a forklift upgrade.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Josh Luthman <
>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Nothing on the AP side.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Beam CPE isn't as good as a Force110 or Force200 CPE.  I can say
>>>>> for sure a couple of db in the antenna.  I've heard better filtering/eth
>>>>> protection/etc stuff, but that's kind of hard to measure from my point of
>>>>> view.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you're thinking Ubnt CPE + license to keep costs down I wouldn't
>>>>> waste the effort, it's the same price and every db counts.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:01 PM, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes on one tower. Didnt see any difference. The elevate! program is
>>>>>> interesting. What do you lose by using a ePMP AP and UBNT CPE?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 8:21 AM, Josh Luthman <
>>>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Have you not deployed any epmp?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <%28937%29%20552-2340>
>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <%28937%29%20552-2343>
>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Dec 8, 2016 2:05 AM, "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So, does it fix the problem?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Josh Luthman <
>>>>>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> $30 to fix the problem or $120 + $50 truck roll to fix the problem
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <%28937%29%20552-2340>
>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <%28937%29%20552-2343>
>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:57 AM, Mike Hammett <
>>>>>>>>> wispaubntus...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That's a lot cheaper than a whole CPE plus a truck roll.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>>>>>>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>>>>>>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>>>>>>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>> *From: *"Stuart Pierce" <spie...@avolve.net>
>>>>>>>>>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
>>>>>>>>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, December 7, 2016 4:43:50 AM
>>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] Crash reports
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Course you have to pay a half to a third per cpe for this option.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, December 6, 2016 11:26 pm, RickG wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> > I'm just waiting to hear how well it's working out from all you
>>>>>>>>>> guinea
>>>>>>>>>> > pigs :P
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 11:13 PM, Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>>>> > <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >> Epmp elevate!  AP swap done in an hour then go hook up other
>>>>>>>>>> customers.
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >> Sorry I felt obligated since you pointed me out ;)
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>>>> >> Office: 937-552-2340 <%28937%29%20552-2340>
>>>>>>>>>> >> Direct: 937-552-2343 <%28937%29%20552-2343>
>>>>>>>>>> >> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>>>>> >> Suite 1337
>>>>>>>>>> >> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >> On Dec 6, 2016 11:10 PM, "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >> +1!
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Steve Barnes <st...@pcswin.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >>> Since all our customer facing stuff was running 10MHz
>>>>>>>>>> channels and
>>>>>>>>>> >>> Airmax
>>>>>>>>>> >>> we had not applied Wireless Security.  We decided to start
>>>>>>>>>> adding
>>>>>>>>>> >>> security to all clients.  (backhauls already had security)
>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>> Since applying WPA2-AES to all our Rocket M5 APs and CPEs
>>>>>>>>>> (5.6.9 ALL)
>>>>>>>>>> >>> we have been getting lots of Crash reports on the AP side an
>>>>>>>>>> some one
>>>>>>>>>> >>> the CPE.  Also have had several AP’s just stop passing
>>>>>>>>>> traffic till
>>>>>>>>>> >>> they were rebooted.  Funky communication with AC2 and all
>>>>>>>>>> around
>>>>>>>>>> >>> goofiness of our network that we never had without security.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>> Giving lots of consideration to reversing this decision.  Any
>>>>>>>>>> >>> thoughts or ideas?
>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>> P.S.  ePMP is not an answer Josh.  ☺
>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>> Steve Barnes
>>>>>>>>>> >>> Wireless Operations Manager
>>>>>>>>>> >>> New Lisbon Broadband
>>>>>>>>>> >>> NLBC.COM
>>>>>>>>>> >>> PCSWIN.COM
>>>>>>>>>> >>> 765-584-2288 ext:1101 <%28765%29%20584-2288>
>>>>>>>>>> <(765)%20584-2288>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>
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>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >>
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>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >
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