New to ubuntu - some problems/questions
Hi, I'm currently a vision impaired user of debian, but I'm trying out ubuntu and potentially looking to make a switch. However I've ran into some problems: 1. How do I see the list of all my applications? I press the windows key and then attempt to arrow around, but this does not work. I read that this is the method to view the entire application list with unity... So how to do this with orca? Also, on a bit of a side note, what is a better choice from an accessibility point of view, gnome-shell or unity? Is there some reason why unity is the default on ubuntu? 2. In Some applications are not working quite right. In Libreoffice calc when I use the arrow keys to navigate the spread sheet I do not get any spoken feedback from orca. Also in both writer and calc (possibly other apps, but that's all I've tested so far) I can not access the menu bar by using alt or alt+f. Is there a solution to this one? 3. I've just installed emacspeak from source on ubuntu, using espeak. When I run emacspeak with espeak I experience regular crashes on average one every few minutes. Obviously this is quite annoying, so I was hoping there might be a fix around. I'm also experiencing almost identical problem on debian, but my best solution so far is to revert back to alsa. Is this also the best solution for ubuntu? I'm presuming this will also be an issue when I get around to installing speakup, as it was on debian also. 4. My final problem: I'm attempting to build and install speakup as kernel modules. First I tried installing module-assistant and doing the following as root: m-a prepare m-a a-i speakup The build process failed though. Is my best option for now to build the modules from source out of git? If anyone can help with any of this I'd grately appreciate it. Thanks in advance, Daniel -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: New to ubuntu - some problems/questions
Hi Daniel,
I'll try to answer some questions, but first I've some questions.
What version of ubuntu are you running?
Are you running unity 2d or unity 3d?
See my answers below your questions.
1. How do I see the list of all my applications? I press the windows key
and then attempt to arrow around, but this does not work. I read that
this is the method to view the entire application list with unity...
So how to do this with orca?
The win key or the alt+f1 is used to see the list of the prefered
applications or the running applications.
I never found how to se all applications using unity 2d.
Also, on a bit of a side note, what is a better choice from an
accessibility point of view, gnome-shell or unity? Is there some reason
why unity is the default on ubuntu?
Personally I prefer gnome-shell, but canonical decided to adopt unity as
the default.
2. In Some applications are not working quite right. In Libreoffice calc
when I use the arrow keys to navigate the spread sheet I do not get any
spoken feedback from orca.
Also in both writer and calc (possibly other apps, but that's all I've
tested so far) I can not access the menu bar by using alt or alt+f.
Is there a solution to this one?
Did you try the f10 key to access the menu bar?
3. I've just installed emacspeak from source on ubuntu, using
espeak. When I run emacspeak with espeak I experience regular crashes on
average one every few minutes.
Obviously this is quite annoying, so I was hoping there might be a fix
around.
I'm also experiencing almost identical problem on debian, but my best
solution so far is to revert back to alsa. Is this also the best
solution for ubuntu?
I can not say about this topic, but I think that it is not so easy
revert to alsa in ubuntu.
I'm presuming this will also be an issue when I get around to installing
speakup, as it was on debian also.
4. My final problem: I'm attempting to build and install speakup as
kernel modules.
First I tried installing module-assistant and doing the following as
root:
m-a prepare
m-a a-i speakup
The build process failed though. Is my best option for now to build the
modules from source out of git?
you do not need build speakup in ubuntu because there is a package.
sudo apt-get install speakup espeakup
This will generate some errors but you can ignore them.
The problem is that you can not use speakup and the gui environment
using the same login.
What I do in general is to login in the console as root and su - my real
login.
If anyone can help with any of this I'd grately appreciate it.
I hope this can help in some way.
Thanks in advance,
Daniel
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Re: New to ubuntu - some problems/questions
To get a list of all of the applications installed on a system using Unity 2D on a Ubuntu 12.04 system, tap the Super key to bring up the dash. Now arrow down and over and press the enter key on the applications button. Now down arrow and press the enter key on the installed node in the tree and then arrow around to see the applications installed on your system. On 21/11/12 07:36, José Vilmar Estácio de Souza wrote: Hi Daniel, I'll try to answer some questions, but first I've some questions. What version of ubuntu are you running? Are you running unity 2d or unity 3d? See my answers below your questions. 1. How do I see the list of all my applications? I press the windows key and then attempt to arrow around, but this does not work. I read that this is the method to view the entire application list with unity... So how to do this with orca? The win key or the alt+f1 is used to see the list of the prefered applications or the running applications. I never found how to se all applications using unity 2d. Also, on a bit of a side note, what is a better choice from an accessibility point of view, gnome-shell or unity? Is there some reason why unity is the default on ubuntu? Personally I prefer gnome-shell, but canonical decided to adopt unity as the default. 2. In Some applications are not working quite right. In Libreoffice calc when I use the arrow keys to navigate the spread sheet I do not get any spoken feedback from orca. Also in both writer and calc (possibly other apps, but that's all I've tested so far) I can not access the menu bar by using alt or alt+f. Is there a solution to this one? Did you try the f10 key to access the menu bar? 3. I've just installed emacspeak from source on ubuntu, using espeak. When I run emacspeak with espeak I experience regular crashes on average one every few minutes. Obviously this is quite annoying, so I was hoping there might be a fix around. I'm also experiencing almost identical problem on debian, but my best solution so far is to revert back to alsa. Is this also the best solution for ubuntu? I can not say about this topic, but I think that it is not so easy revert to alsa in ubuntu. I'm presuming this will also be an issue when I get around to installing speakup, as it was on debian also. 4. My final problem: I'm attempting to build and install speakup as kernel modules. First I tried installing module-assistant and doing the following as root: m-a prepare m-a a-i speakup The build process failed though. Is my best option for now to build the modules from source out of git? you do not need build speakup in ubuntu because there is a package. sudo apt-get install speakup espeakup This will generate some errors but you can ignore them. The problem is that you can not use speakup and the gui environment using the same login. What I do in general is to login in the console as root and su - my real login. If anyone can help with any of this I'd grately appreciate it. I hope this can help in some way. Thanks in advance, Daniel -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: New to ubuntu - some problems/questions
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 09:02:34AM -0600, Christopher Chaltain wrote: To get a list of all of the applications installed on a system using Unity 2D on a Ubuntu 12.04 system, tap the Super key to bring up the dash. Now arrow down and over and press the enter key on the applications button. Now down arrow and press the enter key on the installed node in the tree and then arrow around to see the applications installed on your system. Hmm didn't quite work for me - I'm running 12.10 though. I might try gnome-shell first anyway, otherwise I'l keep trying :) Thanks for your help. Dan -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: New to ubuntu - some problems/questions
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 11:36:43AM -0200, José Vilmar Estácio de Souza wrote: Hi Daniel, Hi José, What version of ubuntu are you running? 12.10 Are you running unity 2d or unity 3d? Not sure, is there a method to check? I just installed straight from the livecd as of last night, so what would that likely mean? 1. How do I see the list of all my applications? I press the windows key and then attempt to arrow around, but this does not work. I read that this is the method to view the entire application list with unity... So how to do this with orca? The win key or the alt+f1 is used to see the list of the prefered applications or the running applications. I never found how to se all applications using unity 2d. Yes I'm finding the same can find common application, but not all. Oh well that's not a huge problem for me atm. Also, on a bit of a side note, what is a better choice from an accessibility point of view, gnome-shell or unity? Is there some reason why unity is the default on ubuntu? Personally I prefer gnome-shell, but canonical decided to adopt unity as the default. I suppose I'll try gnome-shell on ubuntu then I can decide which one to go with easily. I'm use to gnome-shell so maybe that's why I'm having some bad luck with unity. 2. In Some applications are not working quite right. In Libreoffice calc when I use the arrow keys to navigate the spread sheet I do not get any spoken feedback from orca. Also in both writer and calc (possibly other apps, but that's all I've tested so far) I can not access the menu bar by using alt or alt+f. Is there a solution to this one? Did you try the f10 key to access the menu bar? Does not work. If I press alt by itself I hear somethin hud or hub. Using arrows does not do anything here though. I'll try gnome-shell though and hopefully this problem might disappear. 3. I've just installed emacspeak from source on ubuntu, using espeak. When I run emacspeak with espeak I experience regular crashes on average one every few minutes. Obviously this is quite annoying, so I was hoping there might be a fix around. I'm also experiencing almost identical problem on debian, but my best solution so far is to revert back to alsa. Is this also the best solution for ubuntu? I can not say about this topic, but I think that it is not so easy revert to alsa in ubuntu. Yes, your probably right. I'm presuming this will also be an issue when I get around to installing speakup, as it was on debian also. 4. My final problem: I'm attempting to build and install speakup as kernel modules. First I tried installing module-assistant and doing the following as root: m-a prepare m-a a-i speakup The build process failed though. Is my best option for now to build the modules from source out of git? you do not need build speakup in ubuntu because there is a package. sudo apt-get install speakup espeakup Thanks for clarifying made it a lot easier!:) The problem is that you can not use speakup and the gui environment using the same login. What I do in general is to login in the console as root and su - my real login. Hmm, this is very interesting. Do we know why yet? Because would speakup/espeakup be running as root anyway? Maybe this is a pulseaudio issue again similar to what I found on debian, but then again it also seems quite different. I shall keep investigating anyway. I hope this can help in some way. It is very helpful, thank you very much. Daniel -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
