Re: Ubuntu 14.04 and accessebility
On 25 feb 2014, at 08:55, Krishnakant Mane wrote: Ok, so we won't have a separate iso of Ubuntu 14.04 for gnome. Yes, take a look at http://ubuntugnome.org/ . I don't know about the version of Gnome or status of accessibility in the release. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Ubuntu 14.04 and accessebility
> On 24 feb 2014, at 13:15, Petra Ritter wrote: > > Hello, > > On 27th February the Beta 1 should be released > Has this version accessibility build in all ready or have we to waiting for > a later build of Ubuntu 14.04? > I know it is a beta version and I won't run it on a working machine. I'm just > wondering whether the accessibility will be available in this version. As the feature freeze was on the 20th of Feb everything that are to be included in the final version should already be there. AFAIK the main Ubuntu is accessible from start, I just added accessibility to Ubuntu Studio just before FF using the same repos as Ubuntu. /Jimmy -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: XpLike Ubuntu
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 5:20 PM, Lenny wrote: > Hi, > Has anyone ever ran Orca in XpLike Ubuntu? > I burned an image of the 11.04 version, but I was not able to get speech > going. > I am not sure if I actually got booted into it, as I don't know if this > flavor uses a Ubuntu boot-up sound. > Thanks for any insight. > Glenn > I'm not sure what you mean with XPlike unless you mean "something else than Unity"? 11.04 is quite old and I would suggest using another flavor of Ubuntu like Kubuntu, Xubuntu or Lubuntu. I'm not sure on how accessible their ISOs are so perhaps you're best bet is to install plain Ubuntu 12.04 or 13.10 and then replace Unity with another Desktop Environment. Or just install Vinux (http://vinuxproject.org/) right away which is based on Ubuntu 12.04. /Jimmy -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: What happened with Firefox 25?
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 8:19 PM, Nolan Darilek wrote: > On 10/30/2013 11:19 AM, Luke Yelavich wrote: > > If there were more resources, more effort could be put into supporting > > interim releases. Luke > > I agree. It's a shame that Canonical is so focused on replacing GNOME > with Unity, replacing Wayland with Mir, building its own cloud > deployment solution, putting Ubuntu on every device, that it only has a > single developer to spare for access, which is why I've asked for years > what meaningful action can be done about that. Even Android pushes out > accessibility improvements faster than does Ubuntu these days. But there > just doesn't seem like enough interest from Canonical--too busy > pandering to their able-bodied users I suppose--so I'm at a loss. > > The issue isn't resources. It's priorities. > > There are more people than Canonical working with the different Ubuntu based distributions. One way is to get engaged in the communities. As for most of the community driven projects I would say that resources is a main factor that one need to prioritise the work you put in. Myself, I got a full time job, learning the ropes on how to be a parent and juggle my time with a lot of activities. When I get the opportunity to contribute to a project (Ubuntu Studio in my case) I have to prioritise where to put my small contribution. For the 13.10 release I tried to get in accessibility in the ISOs, but due to not having enough time (resource) I could not do enough testing to make it work and the result was that speech with orca was not supported on the ISOs (though brltty and orca are). /Jimmy -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: 13.10 problems
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Krishnakant Mane wrote: > This time around when 13.10 came out, I was a bit more hopefull that this > will be a fine precursor to the next lts release which will have wonderful > progress since 12.04. > But Now my worries are getting more and more grave as to how long will we > have to stay with 12.04 as the most accessible distro of Ubuntu? > People like me can still use Arch, because we understand some commandline > stuff and fix things here and there. > But what about absolute end users? > For them some thing like Ubuntu perfectly fits the bill. > I only hope we have a sharp turn around and 14.04 LTS comes out with great > accessibility. > >From what I have heard, historically the aim for accessibility are often focused on the LTS releases, so hopefully the 14.04 release will be spot on. As for the goal for Ubuntu Studio is to make the installation accessible with braille and speech. We didn't get it fixed all the way for the 13.10 release, only braille support was included. For 14.04 the hope is to have it all up an running. There are some issues still since Ubuntu Studio as default use Xfce. But for 14.04 Ubuntu Studio is also aiming for being DE agnostic so it wouldn't matter which desktop you prefer to run. /Jimmy -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Orca in Xfce?
Thanks for all your tips and suggestions! I will start to look into Peter's instructions as well as sign up for the Orca mailing list. I started out here as Ubuntu Studio is, well Ubuntu. So far I have had best success on Xfce 4.8 (Ubuntu Studio 12.04 & Debian Wheezy) rather than 4.10 (Ubuntu Studio/Xubuntu 13.04/13.10). As the next release of Ubuntu Studio 13.10 will use Xfce 4.10 that's what I'm pushing for. The version of Orca in the Ubuntu repos for 13.xx is 3.8. Debian Wheezy ran 3.4 and I suppose Ubuntu Studio 12.04 did the same, but I don't have that computer available at the moment to check. Kind regards Jimmy On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 10:20 PM, Peter Vágner wrote: > Hello, > I recommend xfce 4.10 as there were some accessibility related fixes > during its development cycle. > When it comes to orca I know it is working well with orca 3.6 and also > 3.8. I haven't tested xfce with other versions of orca. > However I guess even orca 3.4 might work because there is nothing in xfce > what communicates directly to orca and all the accessibility related > packages are installed as orca dependencies so hopefully there is nothing > that might cause conflicts. > I would suggest install the recent stuff provided by your distro of choice > and then tweak from there if some tweaking is needed indeed. > > -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Orca in Xfce?
Hi, I'm part of the devel-team for Ubuntu Studio and we received a request to include Orca and brltty in the next releases to further support visually impaired users. I have been doing some tests to include Orca but not very successfully. The aim is to include Orca already during installation. However, I'm not sure where to address my questions and issues. My first thought was the Ubuntu Accessibility team but I'm not sure the team is still active? I've tried the #ubuntu-accessibility channel on IRC. Since I'm uncertain if the issue is because I'm setting it up wrong, or it's an issue since Ubuntu Studio use Xfce as default or if it's an issue with Orca in general in 13.04 and 13.10 I'm not sure where to turn? Any pointers? Kind regards Jimmy cub on irc.freenode -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility