upgrade failure
Greetings,
I seem to have run into trouble upgrading from Ubuntu8.04 to Ubuntu10.04. The
other night, I figured I would try the upgrade process while the internet
trafic should be low.
I logged into my administrator account and ran sudo aptitude update followed by
sudo aptitude safe-upgrade. There were about 8 packages that were updated and
none listed as "NOT UPGRADABLE."
After the standard update process completed, from the gnome-terminal, I ran
sudo do-release-upgrade. Every thing started off fine. It took about half an
hour to download the necessary packages from the repositories. I monitored the
process for a little while (10-15 minutes) after that: It looked like the
standard update messages to me ("preparing to replace package version x with
package version y ..."). Since the entire process might take afew hours
(Before downloading, it said there were over 600 packages to instal and well
over 1,000 to upgrade) I decided to stretch my legs a little and came back to
check on the progress every 15-30 minutes.
After about 2 hours, orca stopped speaking and I found a small rectangular
dialog box in the middle of the screen. I wasn't sure if orca just lost focus
so first I tried altTabbing to give the dialog focus. Nothing seemed to
happen. I tried bringing up the run dialog to re-launch orca (I'm still in
gnome-2.22, orca randomly stops and I find re-launching it manually appears to
work), but the run dialog didn't appear to pop up.
Before I could try anything else, the screen went almost blank. To me it
looked deep blue, and I saw some stuff an the extreme top and bottom of the
screen which I assume was the outline of the top and bottom panels. I wasn't
sure what was going on, but the processor sounded like it was still chugging
along, so I left everything alone until it slowed down.
When the processor sounded like it stopped cranking, I waited about fifteen
minutes and nothing happened. i switched to text console 1 and logged in. I
connected my braillenote and attempted to launch brltty. I never recieved any
output on the braille display, but I noticed the screen filled with messages.
They kept coming and coming. Visually, it looked like when I run an update
process; They had a little bit of variation in length and some popped up
quickly while others took longer before the next message joined the queue. I
hoped the release process was still going. I stepped back before my
impationtce got the better of me. I came back about every half hour and
pressed the control key to reactivate the screen (I'm on a laptop and every
thirty or so minutes of inactivity and the screen goes to sleep i guess).
Eventually, the screen appeared to stop scrolling. All the messages stacked up
in columns. It took another hour before I could get sighted assistance to
review what was going on (about 7 hours from the start of do-release-upgrade).
I was getting an infinite loop of messagesstating brltty could't open device.
I had disconnected the braillenote a while back to keep it from getting
dropped. I tried reconnecting it, but it didn't appear to have any effect.
After another 15 or so minutes, I just gave up and pressed the power button on
the laptop and killed everything.
When i came back to reboot, I got the regular grub menu (I duel boot with
windows XP). Sighted assistance says the ubunntu entry is 8.04. When I trie
to launch buntu I'm not surprised to get a static screen full of messages.
>From talking with sighted assistance (who doesn't know linux) it appears a
>basic shell is launched after several modues nd devices fail to load. There's
>no log-in so I presume the users aren't being initialized. help age a long
>list of commands that appear to be standard shell commands "cat, mount,
>umount, &c).
Before I do anything drastic, is there a way to recover? from the basic shell,
can i remount my root an home partitions and either re-start or continue the
installation process? or is there at least a way to capture the messages (or
any other relevant information) say to a text file on a USB stick?
thanks in advance for any suggestions.
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RE: upgrading to lucid
Thanks Tim, I was leaning towards do-release-upgrade because I'm a little more comfortable with the comand-line than graphical applications. I think I'm going to wait a couple of days before attempting the upgrade to let the traffic through the repositories slow down. thanks:-) > Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 13:34:41 +1000 > To: aerospace1...@hotmail.com > CC: ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: Re:upgrading to lucid > From: tcr...@rapttech.com.au > > > I have always used do-release-upgrade. This morning, I used it to upgrade to > lucid and all looks OK so far. > > I'm a bit old fashioned though. My main interface is based on emacspeak. I've > not used orca that much. Therefore, I tend to use text based apps over > graphics based ones, despite the fact I run under X. > > Tim > > aerospace1...@hotmail.com writes: > > greetings, > > I did some more research on how to update ubuntu distributions from the > command line. The two options appear to be: > > > > (1) sudo update-manager > > > > (2) sudo do-release-upgrade -m desktop > > > > method 1 would just launch the graphical application from the command line > (gnome-terminal) and in general is the recommended distribution upgrade > method from the ubuntu wiki. I can't find much doccumentation on > do-release-upgrade, are there any drastic differences btween what these two > programs do? > > > > Does anyone have any advice on which is the better (faster? more > accessible?) method for updateing my Ubuntu system to lucid? > > > > Thanks:-) > > > > > > _ > > The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. > > > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 > > -- > > -- > > Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list > > Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility > > -- > Tim Cross > tcr...@rapttech.com.au > > There are two types of people in IT - those who do not manage what they > understand and those who do not understand what they manage. > -- > Tim Cross > tcr...@rapttech.com.au > > There are two types of people in IT - those who do not manage what they > understand and those who do not understand what they manage. _ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5-- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
RE: upgrading to lucid
Hi Bill, Sorry, I forgot to mention I was way back on Hardy (8.04 LTS). I had origianally considered apt-get dist-upgrade, but some one else on the list claimed it provided problems. I scavenged the ubuntu wiki and found a couple passing references to do-release-upgrade. I don't think I have much hacks on my system. I built atk, at-spi and orca--for the 2.22 desktop--from git (so i could build against liblouis). > Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 08:17:21 -0400 > Subject: Re: upgrading to lucid > From: waywardg...@gmail.com > To: aerospace1...@hotmail.com > CC: ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com > > I always ran > > $ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade > > But I've had trouble most times with this. More often than not, I > have not been able to boot my machine into Gnome after a dist-upgrade > from a full release back. However, I hack my system pretty heavily, > so my experience is probably not the norm. If you're running a recent > Lucid Beta or release candidate, it will probably work. Be sure to do > a full backup before the upgrade, and be prepared to do a full > reinstall if things don't work out. > > Bill > > On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 7:46 AM, wrote: > > greetings, > > I did some more research on how to update ubuntu distributions from the > > command line. The two options appear to be: > > > > (1) sudo update-manager > > > > (2) sudo do-release-upgrade -m desktop > > > > method 1 would just launch the graphical application from the command line > > (gnome-terminal) and in general is the recommended distribution upgrade > > method from the ubuntu wiki. I can't find much doccumentation on > > do-release-upgrade, are there any drastic differences btween what these two > > programs do? > > > > Does anyone have any advice on which is the better (faster? more > > accessible?) method for updateing my Ubuntu system to lucid? > > > > Thanks:-) > > > > > > > > The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. > > Get started. > > -- > > Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list > > Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility > > > > _ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5-- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
upgrading to lucid
greetings, I did some more research on how to update ubuntu distributions from the command line. The two options appear to be: (1) sudo update-manager (2) sudo do-release-upgrade -m desktop method 1 would just launch the graphical application from the command line (gnome-terminal) and in general is the recommended distribution upgrade method from the ubuntu wiki. I can't find much doccumentation on do-release-upgrade, are there any drastic differences btween what these two programs do? Does anyone have any advice on which is the better (faster? more accessible?) method for updateing my Ubuntu system to lucid? Thanks:-) _ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3-- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
re: upgrading ubuntu
Greetings, I'm still in the process of researching the upgrade options myself for migrating from 8.04 to 10.04. I am a little nervous about the sparse documentation for do-release-upgrade. In fact, the only documentation I have found is the do-release-upgrade --help flag. The help flag syas there are four (4) valid options to pass to do-release-upgrade: -d for upgradng to development versions -h for the help list -p [I forget what this on is, I'm not at my ubutu machine at the oment] -m mode to determine which upgrade path to take [mode = server | desktop] Since it appears you are trying to get to the current development version of lucid, the command you would use is: #do-release-upgrade -d -m desktop (I assume this is ment to be run with elovated privilages, hence "#") I haven't tried this yet myself. If you decide to attempt this, I would apreciate a report of any errors/success you encounter. good luck, and hopefully you getyour upgrade to work soon:-) >Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 21:32:54 +0100 >From: michael weaver >Subject: upgrading ubuntu >To: ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com >Message-ID: <4bb10c85.27f98e0a.4e52.4...@mx.google.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed > >i looked at the instructions for upgrading from hardy or karmic >to lucid and it states to do an upgrade do alt plus f2, >update-manager dash d, enter and follow the instructions to do a >desktop upgrade. >i looked at the instructions i typed and i think the sudo >do-upgrade-release dash d does a server upgrade which might have >been the reason why my attepts to upgrade crash. >if i am going to have to do any upgrade via the up-date manager, >after i have typed my password after chosing the ok button to >upgrade, do i need to press space or enter again after i have >been asked for my password and okayed the password as i am >assuming that it doesn't start straight away after doing okay >after typing my admin password. >i am guessing that after entering or spacing on okay to accept my >password i need to find the actual button to start the upgrade. >is the button that starts the actual upgrade the default button >in the dialogue box which is unaccessible because of the sudo >problem or how many times do i need to press tab before i can >.accept and beginn my upgrade? > _ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID27925::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:032010_1-- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
re:[orca-list] upgrading from hardy
>Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 19:35:14 + >From: Michael Weaver >To: ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com, orca-l...@gnome.org >Subject: [orca-list] upgrading from hardy >Message-ID: <94117.24461...@smtp818.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed > >i did a sudo do-release upgrade in hardy and got the error >message "no upgrade found" >how do i resolve this so i can get the next version? >do i need to edit the sourcesddlist file and change any line with >deb http at the beginning to the next distribution name before i >do my sudo-do-release-upgrade? > try checking /etc/update-maneger/release-upgrades (I know /etc/update-maneger/ is the correct directory, I might have the file name off). The setting Prompt should be set to "normal" and not "lts." Otherwise, you won't get a valid release until lucid is "Officially" published in April. My understanding is that if you wish to upgrade from a stable distribution to a development release, you should append the -d flag to either do-release-upgrade or update-manager (which ever update method you prefer). _ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID27925::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:032010_2-- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
upgrade preperations
Greetings, I am in the process of making my plan to upgrade to lucid when it is officially released in April. I am currently using Ubuntu 8.04 LTS and I want to make sure everything is set for the transition to go as smooth as possible. Some potentially useful background: I'm using a laptop: duel-booting Ubuntu and Windows XP. I HAVE Ubuntu split over two partitions (One for / and one for /home). I maintain regular (monthly) backups of my rootsystem and home directories (each partition gets its own backup). under the settings for software sources and preferences (found under the administration menu of the top pannel: I don't recall the exact name), I currently have my system set to only upgrade to LTS versions of Ubuntu. (A) configuration files? Will my settings in configuration files (I.E. those found in /etc/) remain preserved across the upgrade? Also will anything I added to ~.bashrc be preserved as well? Or will I need to re-tweek these files upon upgrade. (B) custom-builds? I built the git editions of orca, at-spi and atk for the gnome-2.22 system. Will apt-get dist-upgrade automatically replace these with the default versions for lucid, or should I uninstall the git-builds and re-install the repository versions? (C) best upgrade method? I've been switching from apt-get to aptitude for my package-management uses, but from reading the documentation in man, it looks like apt-get dist-upgrade is the recommended method for upgrading distribution releases from the command-line: is this correct? (D) anything else? Are there any other concerns I should be looking at? Useful tidbits to keep in mind? Thank you in advance for your assistance:-) I look forward to getting caught back up with the linux community. _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/210850553/direct/01/-- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
re: accessible backup program
greetings, Do to technical difficulties I have fallen behind with the ubuntu and orca mailing lists. I noticed no one had responded to this yet. I'm not sure what your needs are, but I just use tar to make a compressed archive of my system. I even restored from tar once too. An explination of how to use tar for backing up can be found here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem/TAR >Does anyone know if there is an accessible backup program which is easy >to use? >I tried Sbackup but I had a few problems. >It would only allow you to navigate the program if you were already >logged in as administrator in the Sbackup configuration program and I >couldn't seem to be able to use the restore app because of this admin >problem. >The other thing was I found I couldn't get a status on progress of >backups when I tried it. _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469230/direct/01/-- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
re: Anyone know how to increase the console font size
>In Ubuntu Lucid Alpha, the fonts on the console are really tiny. In >Karmic, they were nice and large. Does anyone know how to modify the >console font size? > Just exploring my system the other day, I noticed a file, /etc/default/console-settings. There is a section to set font face and font size. The preceding comments doccument available fonts and their respective size options. Not sure if this is of any use or not. _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469227/direct/01/-- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
intltool
Greetings, I recently ran into an insident, whereby I BROKE DOWN AND RE-INSTALLED MY UBUNTU SYSTEM. I am in the process of reconfiguring my system but I have run into a problem compiling at-spi for orca. I am using the LTS release of ubuntu (8.04 hardy harron). The default orca that comes with this release is 2.22. I successfully built atk from git using the origin/gnome-2-22 branch. However now when I run ./autogen.sh (with the appropriate prefix and libexecdir flags) to compile the origin/2-22 branch of at-spi, I get an error message that my intltool is obsolete. I tried installing intltool through apt-get, but it tells me that the version installed is up-to-date. Is there any way of upgrading intltool on ubuntu.04 so i can finish upgrading at-spi and orca? Post script: yes I know i *COULD* download and install ubuntu9.10. I'm holding out for the next LTS release. _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/-- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
RE: Ubuntu-accessibility Digest, Vol 47, Issue 12re: gnuchess
greetings, It's difficult for me to thell from your post exacctly what your problem is. (a) if it's dealing with the display: gnuchess by default has a textual display, and there are several graphical overlays that can be obtained. I can not comment on the graphical front-ends because I have never used them. The simple text display of the board uses capital letters for player 1 (the light colored pieces), so "R" for player 1's rook; and lower case letter for player 2 (the dark colored pieces), so "r" for player 2's rook. It might be difficult to notice these differences with orca/speakup/etc, many vissually impared users of gnuchess typically use a braille display to review the board. (b) if you are having a problem entering in your moves: Again, I can not comment of the various graphical over-lays. Running gnuchess from the commandline in text mode, standard algebraic notation works. I.E. RA1-a5 would move a rook from square a1 to a5 (assuming this is a legal move). If you are trying to caputre a rook with a rook, Ra1xRa8 (or whaterver the case may be). As long as you include the starting and ending square, there should never be any confusion. If you still have trouble with this, e-mail me off-list and i'll try and help you as best I can:-) _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/-- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
re: Getting Login Prompt to Speak
>Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 23:42:02 -0400 >From: "Peter Torpey" >Subject: Getting Login Prompt to Speak >To: >Message-ID: <002101ca196c$86448400$92cd8c...@rr.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >Hi, > >I am using Ubuntu 9.04 and Orca. > >Currently when I boot the computer, braille shows "screen not in text mode" >and there is no speech prompt to tell me when to log in. > Greetings, have you tried the directions found at the orca wiki (http://live.gnome.org/Orca/AccessibleLogin)? The directions were written durring Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy Herrin, but to my knowledge the procedure has not changed. >Is there any way of making Ubuntu speak the login prompt or having Orca >start immediately after boot? > You will need to press a key sequence (provided on the orka wiki) to activate orca at the prompt. I'm not sure if there's a way to bring orca up automatically. You can modify the key combination (and the time requirement if you don't want to hold the keys for a full second). >I know that the "bongo" souond should let me know when it's okay to login >in. However, I have a problem with this. I am using multiple USB audio >devices on my PC. I have Orca speaking out of sound car A, but the bongos >sound comes out of sound card B (which I don't usually have turned on). Is >there some way of forcing the bongo sound to come out of sound card A? > No idea, someone else might be abl to let you know. hope this helps:-) _ Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you. http://www.bing.com/cashback?form=MSHYCB&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MSHYCB_BackToSchool_Cashback_BTSCashback_1x1-- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
accessibility of synce?
greetings, I am interested in transfering files between my Ubuntu (8.10 Hardy) computer and my Braillenote classic (running Windows-CE, I think). Poking around google eventually turned up an indication that it is possible (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/WindowsMobile) through synce (http://www.synce.org/moin/). Has anyone used the synce package? Is it compatible with gnome and orca? Most of the doccumentation I've read through thus far focuses heavily on KDE, but there appears to be less detailed gnome doccumentation as well. Thanks in advance:-) _ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_BR_life_in_synch_052009-- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
re: BRLTTY and a USB to serial adapter
I'm not sure about the FTDI chip, but I connect my Braillenote with a USB-Serial bridge. Have you ried instructing brltty to connect through /dev/ttyUSB0? sudo brltty -d serial:ttyUSB0 That worked for me. >Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 13:45:57 +0300 >From: "Jani Kinnunen" >Subject: BRLTTY and a USB to serial adapter >To: >Message-ID: >Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1" > >Hi, > >Is someone using BRLTTY successfully with a braille display connected to a USB >to serial adapter that has the FTDI chip? > >I'm trying to get BRLTTY working with my PowerBraille 40 that is connected to >such an adapter, but haven't had any luck so far. Can someone help me with >this? > >Jani > _ Rediscover Hotmail®: Now available on your iPhone or BlackBerry http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Mobile2_042009-- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
firewall quesstions
greetings,
I almost think something similar had been asked on this list a few months ago,
but i could not dig it up in the archives.
First off, after a year of growing comfortable with ubuntu and orca on a test
machine, I finally installed Ubuntu (8.04 "hardy herrin") onto my everyday
machine.
My test machine did not have internet access, so there were still several
asspecs of ubuntu I was unable to try. In particular, I would like to
implimment a firewall before I turn the internet on while using my new ubuntu
system (FYI, the computer is set up to duel-boot from windows as well). Doing
some basic research I found out there are two options, firestarter and ufw.
1: is firestarter accessible with orca?
@: which is easier to learn for a novice?
I have no experience with network management, iftables or other advanced
concepts. In windows, I set my firewall to high/highest security and don't
need to return to it often. All I want is to allow my necessary activity
("apt-get update", reading my e-mail and googling instructions on how to get
orca/ubuntu/etc to work well) and block almost everything else.
Thankyou:-)
and appologies for jumping in now. I know most people are focused on the
upcoming 9.04 release.
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re: Problem with Orca
hello Alain, >My problem : >In general, I cannot access to the different gnome desktop utilities because, >when the software is launched and when the window is opened, orca doesn't >to speak any more. >For example : the window connexion (menu System/Administration/window >connexion) >Orca speaks and I can choose a menu. Then, when the window is open, Orca no >longer speaks. When I close the window with "ctrl-F4, Orca speaks again. It sounds like you have not modified orca to run administrative tasks. Someone more knowledgeable than I should probably explain about system administration in Gnu/Linux+Ubuntu, but the instructions that might address your problem may be found on the orca wiki (http://live.gnome.org/Orca/SysAdmin). I hope this helps. If this doesn't work, or you have trouble with the instructions, please let the list know, and we should be able to provide more assistance. _ Store, manage and share up to 5GB with Windows Live SkyDrive. http://skydrive.live.com/welcome.aspx?provision=1?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_skydrive_102008 -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
braille
greetings, I've recently installed ubuntu 8.04. I'm trying to get BRLTTY working. I've changed "no" to "yes" in /etc/default/brltty, and edited /etc/brltty.conf with my personal preffrences--Braillenote, serial port, NACB, etc--but BRLTTY doesn't start automatically. when I try running brltty from the command line, I get the message: rev UNKNOWN [http://mielke.cc.brltty/] Does anyone have any idea what is wrong? _ Got Game? Win Prizes in the Windows Live Hotmail Mobile Summer Games Trivia Contest http://www.gowindowslive.com/summergames?ocid=TXT_TAGHM -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
RE: accessible login
Thank you, I used the live CD to pull gnome-orca-svn from the AT erpository that Luke wrote about while back. it seems to work fine now. > Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 07:17:38 -0400> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: > accessible login> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: > ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com> > Hi:> > We made a workarond for this > as part of > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=517387.> > Hope this > helps!> > Will> > On Aug 9, 2008, at 2:34 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:> > >> > > update.> > I've managed to get the accessible login working. I do have one > > > issue: when typing in my password, I hear the letters I am typing. > > > For example, if I type "bob" into the password field, I hear "b star o > > > star b star." Does anybody know what is causeing this? Is it an orca > > > thing, or an ubuntu thing, or just a random something else?> >> > thank > you:-)> > _> > > Get Windows Live and get whatever you need, wherever you are. Start > > > here.> > > http://www.windowslive.com/default.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Home_082008> > -- > > > Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list> > Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com> > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility> _ Your PC, mobile phone, and online services work together like never before. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108587394/direct/01/-- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
re: accessible login
update. I've managed to get the accessible login working. I do have one issue: when typing in my password, I hear the letters I am typing. For example, if I type "bob" into the password field, I hear "b star o star b star." Does anybody know what is causeing this? Is it an orca thing, or an ubuntu thing, or just a random something else? thank you:-) _ Get Windows Live and get whatever you need, wherever you are. Start here. http://www.windowslive.com/default.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Home_082008 -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
accessible login
greetings, I just recently switched from Ubuntu 7.10 to Ubuntu 8.04 on my test machine. I'm trying to get the accessible login working. I know I got it working with 7.10, but I'm not sure what I'm missing. I copied the relevant lines from /etc/gdm/gdm.conf (the doccumentation needs to be updated, it says the files are in /etc/X11/gdm) to the corrisponding location in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom. I uncommented the "AddGtkModules" line and set it to true. I also uncommented the "GtkModulesList=Gail,Act-bridge,AccessKeyMouseEvents,AccessDwelMouseEvents" line. I also added ",gdm" to the "audio" line in /etc/groups. I ran the commands sudo gdmflexiserver --command="UPDATE_CONFIG daemon/AddGtkModules" sudo gdmflexiserver --command="UPDATE_CONFIG daemon/GtkModulesList" In /etc/gdm/modules/AccessKeyMouseEvents, it says holding CTRL+s for 1 second should start orca at the login, but I can't get it to work. I tried changing the duration from 1000 to 0 milliseconds and still could not get orca to speak at login. Orca works automatically post-login. Does anyone have any suggestions? Was I supposed to change from GtkGreeter to the simpler GTKLogin? Is there something I'm missing? _ Your PC, mobile phone, and online services work together like never before. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108587394/direct/01/ -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
braille
Greetings all, I can get my braillenote to work as a braille display alright, but is there a way to transfer files to and from the computer to the braillenote like in windows with ActiveSync? _ Make every e-mail and IM count. Join the i’m Initiative from Microsoft. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Join/Default.aspx?source=EML_WL_ MakeCount -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
liblouisxmml
Greetings, Does anyone have any experience building liblouisxml in ubuntu 7.10? I downloaded the newest packages from jjb-software Tuesday, and I'm having trouble getting liblouisxml to build. I made liblouis without any erros nd lou_allround worked well. However, when I try to make liblouisxml I get the following error: $: make -f linux-Makefile gcc -c -Wall -fPIC -O2 transcriber.c -I/usr/include/libxml2 In file included from transcriber.c:35: louisxml.h:34:27: error: libxml/parser.h: No such file or directory In file included from louisxml.h:37, from transcriber.c:35: transcriber.h:94: error: expected)before*token In file included from transcriber.c:35: louisxml.h:187: error: expected)before*token louisxml.h:188: error: expected)before*token louisxml.h:189: error: expected)before*token louisxml.h:190: error: expected)before*token louisxml.h:191: error: expected)before*token louisxml.h:192: error: expected)before*token louisxml.h:193: error: expected)before*token louisxml.h:194: error: expected)before*token louisxml.h:195: error: expected)before*token louisxml.h:196: error: expected)before*token louisxml.h:197: error: expected)before*token louisxml.h:198: error: expected)before*token louisxml.h:199: error: expected)before*token louisxml.h:203: error: expected)before*token louisxml.h:204: error: expected= ,, ,; ,asmor __attribute__before*token louisxml.h:205: error: expected)before*token transcriber.c:540: error: expected)before*token transcriber.c:588: error: expected)before*token make: *** [transcriber.o] Error 1 $: The liblouis mailing-list suggested there might be something wrong with my libxml2. I found libxml2.so.2.6.30 under /usr/lib, but I noticed that the makefile adds /usr/include/libxml2 to the include path, but I have no libxml2 directory under /usr/include. Does anyone know what i need to do to get this package to compile? Thanks:-) _ Windows Live SkyDrive lets you share files with faraway friends. http://www.windowslive.com/skydrive/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_skydrive_052008 -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
brltty autostart
Greetings, I have recently been working at getting my braillenote set up as a braille display with Ubuntu (7.10 gutsy). I have the brltty checkbox marked in the services manager (located under the administration menu item on the top bar). But brltty doesn't seam to be starting correctly. A: when the computer gets to the login prompt, instead of the drum-beat, the computer beeps (sounds like the system beep; ASCII character 7). b: to initiate brltty I still have to login as administrator and run "sudo brltty" from the command prompt. Is there a way to get brltty to start automatically so I don't need to login as administrator and logout/login as non-administrator to use brltty under my non-administrator account? (I'm still aclimmating to linux/ubuntu and I like to do most of my work as non-administrator for my own protection.) It's not a major issue (the process does result in a working brltty), but it'd be just that much more convenient to login straight away under the account I'm going to use. thank you:-) _ Spell a grand slam in this game where word skill meets World Series. Get in the game. http://club.live.com/word_slugger.aspx?icid=word_slugger_wlhm_admod_april08 -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
re: help restoring orca and at-spi
Greetings, Just an update. This past weekend I managed to get ubuntu re-installed. It is up and running with orca 2.20.0 and working well. _ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008-- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
re: help restoring orca and at-spi
>Ok, have you double-checked your /etc/apt/sources.list file? If not, check it, >and then run sudo apt-get update, and try installing gnome-orca again.>- -- >>Luke Yelavich Is there anything in particular I should be looking for? The first line is uncommented and points to the installation CD. The remaining http lines are all commented out (the machine isn't connected to the internet, so apt-get can't find them anyway). At one point I had added a line at the very end "deb file:/home/me /debs" when I was trying to create a local repository for the orca deb files. I completely removed the line from the /etc/apt/sources.list file and emptied the directory /home/yoda/debs of all its contents. I did an "apt-get update" an tried to install orca again, but I still get the same message. Any ideas? _ Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail®-get your "fix". http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx-- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
re: help restoring orca and at-spi
Ookay, I used the >> redirector to grab the output of apt-get to a file. I'm apparently getting a different message: Reading package lists...Building dependency tree...Reading state information...Package gnome-orca is not available, but is referred to by another package.This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, oris only available from another sourceHowever the following packages replace it: python-orca-brlapi however when I tried "apt-get install python-orca-brlapi" I got the standard python-orca-brlapi is the most up-to-date installed; no new packages available. I'm not sure where to go frm here? _ Share life as it happens with the new Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008-- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
re: help restoring orca and at-spi
>Try running sudo apt-get -f install and see what it wants to remove/install. >Then try >installing gnome-orca again. Unfortunately, I already did "apt-get -f install" and that is how orca got wiped out. subsequently I tried fixing the /etc/apt/sources.list file to only include the ubuntu CD and then ran "apt-get update" and "apt-get gnome-orca"; but it gives me a message saying that it can't install. The error message is kind of long, would it help if I went back and tried to capture it to a file and post it to the mailing list? (This is the error message that says I can't install orca, it's too late to get the apt-get -f install message.) Thank you _ Put your friends on the big screen with Windows Vista® + Windows Live™. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/shop/specialoffers.mspx?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_CPC_MediaCtr_bigscreen_012008-- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
help restoring orca and at-spi
greetings all, I made a booboo. I was attempting to install firefox3 and upgrade from orca2.20.0 to orca2.21.4 on my new installation of ubuntu gutsy gibbon. my ubuntu machine is not connected to the internet so I had to track downa mess of deb files and carry them over. I'm not sure what happened, I must have missed one. Ubuntu told me I couldn't install firefox; then I got a message that I had an unresolved broken package on my system. Ubuntu recommended "sudo apt-get install -f". I did this, and now when I login, an error message pops up saying at-spi is being requested, but can't be found (I got this from sighted assistance). I tried to clan out the folder whre I stored teh deb files then did "sudo apt-get clean". I made sure the ubuntu CD was in the tray and did "sudo ap-get update". Now I can't get orca to install. Ubuntu says at-spi can't install because it needs gnome-mag and gnome-mag is uninstallable possibly because it's an impossible configuration. My next step was to try and re-install ubuntu, but I can't figure out how to install only over the existing ubuntu partitian. When I installed the first time, I had ubuntu partitian my windowsXP harddrive and only use two-thirds. Now when I go to the live cd I can use the entire 32 gigs of the harddrive or if I chose the next option down, there's a slider bar and when I slide it to 100% it says something like 8 gigs. To e it sounds like t's trying to add another partitian along side my broken ubuntu installation. Does anyone have any ideas how I can get orca up and running again; short of wiping the disk and starting from scratch (yes I have everything backed up, I could do it; it just feels to much like giving up to me)? Thank you -Paul _ Put your friends on the big screen with Windows Vista® + Windows Live™. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/shop/specialoffers.mspx?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_CPC_MediaCtr_bigscreen_012008-- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
re: updating ubuntu
Okay, I found some instructions on how to update ubuntu packages (i.e. orca) without an internet connection. One of the steps doesn't seem to work. I went to http://packages.ubuntu.com/) and went through the contents and downloaded orca and all it's dependencies (and ependencies of dependencys, and dependencies of dependencies of dependencies, ad infinitum), and the same for firefox-3 (advice from orca mailing lists says it works better than firefox-2). I moved all this into a folder on a usb drive called debs. I went back to my ubuntu computer and added the following line to my /etc/apt/sources.list file: deb file:/media/disk debs/ The directions I found indicated that for apt to understand what is in there I need to run the following command >>sudo dpkg-scanpackages /media/disk/debs /dev/null | gzip >>>/media/disk/debs/Packages.gz But dpkg-scanpackages appears to be an invalid command. I looked under dpkg --help but could not find a simullar function. Does anyone know what the replacement for dpkg-scanpackages is? Or what i need to do so apt-get can navigate the deb files on the usb? --Thank you _ Get the power of Windows + Web with the new Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_powerofwindows_012008-- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
updating ubuntu
Greetings all, I successfully installed ubuntu 7.10 "gutsy gibbon" this morning. The machine I installed on does not have an internet connection. I am interested in finding out how to upgrade to a newer version of orca. I know synaptic can generate a shell script to download the deb packages, but without an internet connection, ubuntu thinks I have the most up-to-date orca around. I poked around the ubuntu arcives and think I found the right gnome-orca deb file, but i don't know how to install it on my ubuntu system or if thereare any other dependencies. Wen I try opening th file in ubuntu, just below the menu bar tere's an erro message saying omethng about how this would conflict with the existing orca installation. Does anyone know how to install orca this way? Thank you Thank you _ Get the power of Windows + Web with the new Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_powerofwindows_012008-- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
slightly ot installing ubuntu with windows
greetings all, I'm getting ready to instal ubuntu on my test machine. I am interested in finding out about establishing a duel boot system. From what I understand, it is possible to partitian an existing windows harddrive and load ubuntu onto one of the partitians. I was wondering if anyone knew where I could find more information about this process? especially any difficulties (in general and orca related) or things that could go wrong before I make the disicion to go with a duel instal or wipe out windows and go all ubuntu. Thank you _ Don't get caught with egg on your face. Play Chicktionary! http://club.live.com/chicktionary.aspx?icid=chick_wlhmtextlink1_dec-- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
RE: have CD now what?
Greetings Ari, I think I ran into a simullar problem. I posted a thread about the live cd. You should be able to find it in the archieve, but the basic thing is that for some reason or other, orca won't start automatically from the live cd and it needs to be started manually. After you're all loaded in, press ALT+F2 to bring up the run dialog. Type gnome-terminal This will launch the command line. type orca -t This will start orca in the terminal with the text setup option. Orca should start reading a list of options. Follow the instructions to set-up accessibility. When you're done close the terminal (orca will still have control and you won't have a prompt so you'll have to press ALT+F4, or ALT+SPACEBAR then up arrow once and press enter.). Now you can start orca by pressing ALT+F2 and typing orca. Alternatively you can start orca from the run dialog when ubuntu loads n; this will start orca and launch the preferences dialog, if you make any changes I found I had to log out for them to take effect (logging out with the live cd just re-logs you back in). Hopefully that should do the trick. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: have CD now what?Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 19:18:51 +0200 Hi everyone, Sorry for not getting back sooner, have had internet connection problems. My question is, is the CD I'm trying to use got Orca, because, I first wanted to see Orca as a live CD, so, on 3 different computers, I booted, pressed f5, then pressed 4 for Orca (sighted help told me that it's 4), then enter twice. Ubuntu CD then spins, plays the sound card test, so there's nothing wrong with the card, and then the desktop loads, but Orca doesn't start speaking! I've tried it on three different computers, but no speech, what could be wrong? I wait for ages, but nothing. The CD I have is Gutsy, I think it's 7.1. What am I doing wrong? Thanks Ari _ Share life as it happens with the new Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_122007-- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
re: working ubuntu distrobution
>Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 00:50:38 -0800>From: Justin Harford <[EMAIL >PROTECTED]>>Subject: working ubuntu distribution>To: ubuntu >>Message-ID: <[EMAIL >PROTECTED]>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; >format=flowed;delsp=yes >>Hello > >I downloaded the ubuntu disk image from the website www.ubuntu.com. It was ok >installing >it, but after that, it is not starting. I am guessing that >accessibility is still broken in this >copy. I would just like someone to tell >me how I might find a working copy. >>Thank you Hello, I think this might be relevant to my previous posts. I found some trouble with the Ubuntu7.10 gutsy gibbon live cd. I couldn't get orca to start automatically, but once I start it manually, it works wel. To start orca do the following: 1. press ALT + F2 (to bring up the run dialog)2. type "gnome-terminal" (without the quotes to bring up theterminal or command line)3. type "orca -t" (to launch orca with text set-up instead of graphically)4. follow the on-screen spoken instructions 5. close the terminal. Orca still has control so you don't have a prompt; you'll have to press CTRL + SPACEBAR then up arrow once to close or quit or whatever the label is.6. press ALT + F2 (to bring up the run dialg again)7. type "orca" (without the quotes) And you should be up and running. I am told that once ubuntu is permanently installed, orca will start automatically, but I still haven't gotten that far yet. _ Don't get caught with egg on your face. Play Chicktionary! http://club.live.com/chicktionary.aspx?icid=chick_wlhmtextlink1_dec-- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
re: special characters in open office
Thank you. That seems to work well. Plus it works on a laptop unlike Microsoft's method of holding down the ALT key and typing out the decimal value with the numpad. Add a point for linux. >> Is there a trick to this dialog that I don't know? or is there an>> >> alternate manner of entering special characters? The windows>> equivalent >> allows the user to enter the unicode value for the>> character but I don't >> see anything like that here.>>If you know the hexadecimal "Unicode number" >> of the character, you can>use Ctrl+Shift+U, then enter the hexadecimal >> number, followed by space>or return.> _ The best games are on Xbox 360. Click here for a special offer on an Xbox 360 Console. http://www.xbox.com/en-US/hardware/wheretobuy/-- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
re: have CD now what?
Greetings Ari,The Gnome live orca page has links to instructions for installing Ubuntu with orca. They don't have Ubuntu 7.10 gutsy gibbin instructions yet, but they do have Ubuntu7.04 feisty fawn instructions at (http://live.gnome.org/Orca/UbuntuFeisty). You might also want to look at the gnoem live main page (http://live.gnome.org/Orca). There are links to some audio files; one of which doccuments the instalation process (again for Ubuntu 7.04 feisty fawn). I can not give any personal advice because I still have not taken the plunge and installed Ubuntu yet. For the moment I am playing around with the live Cd as a way of practicing with the system without messing anything up. I can say that I am impressed with what I have seen so far. I hope this information is helpful. If you have any trouble, I found the support from this list very helpful and effective. >Hi all,>Have at last got a Ubuntu CD, 7.10. Where's a link now to a written >guide on >how to install Ubuntu with Orca and to use Orca? I will be doing it >on a >laptop, so it would be great if the guide deals with that. Again, I've >>always been a Windows user, so really don't know much about command line or >>linux terminology or structures, having come from a GUI environment, so I'm >>hoping it's an easy-to-understand guide. I'm also not the most technical >>person either.>Ari _ i’m is proud to present Cause Effect, a series about real people making a difference. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/MTV/?source=text_Cause_Effect-- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
RE: live CD and orca
> Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 11:46:09 -0600> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL > PROTECTED]> CC: ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com> Subject: RE: live CD > and orca> > Okay, another thing to try. When you get into the list box, hit > down > arrow three times; then hit spacebar once then hit tab once then hit > > enter. If that doesn't work, instead of typing orca, type orca -t > > and see if orca starts talking.> Pressing space then tab didn't seem to do anything. typing orca -t did bring up orca speeking. After I make the changes in the preferences dialog (turning off key echo, switching from desktop to laptop, etc) I need to quit orca and re-start it (*not* ubuntu, just orca) for the changes to take effect. Is that normal behavior? _ Get the power of Windows + Web with the new Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_powerofwindows_122007-- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
RE: live CD and orca
> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:31:20 -0600> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL > PROTECTED]> CC: ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com> Subject: Re: live CD > and orca> > An alternative to try. The list box launches and you're placed at > the top > not on a numbered selection. So try hitting downarrow three times > then > hit enter and see if orca comes up. They really need to put another > > selection in that list box too for those that can't use a mouse and need > to > use orca too.> I have tried this as well. In both cases (pushing the number 3 or using the arrow keys) the entry does not automatically start orca. It is activating the gnome accessibility; when I do type orca in the run dialog, I don't get the enable key echo (y/n) enable braille (y/n) enable braille monitor (y/n) routine that ends with "gnome accessibility has been activated you must restart for the changes to take effect. Would you like to restart now?" I also tried the third entry in the list (same as pushing number 2). This option automatically launches orca as a magnifier. I haven't tested any other options in the list yet because the boot time is so long. I was considering trying to boot into Ubuntu with a different option each day and keep a log of what each item in the list actually does (but I still haven't figured out what 3 is doing). I'm not sure if that would be helpful for the list to have? _ Get the power of Windows + Web with the new Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_powerofwindows_122007-- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
