Re: Unity and Orca?

2010-10-11 Thread PiƱeiro
From: Luke Yelavich 

> On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 07:57:48AM EST, Dave Hunt wrote:
>>   Does anyone have experience running the new Unity interface and the 
>> version of Orca that ships as part of 10.10?
> 
> I tried using orca with unity a week or so back, and I can tell you that it 
> doesn't work, for the vast majority of the unity shell. Such pieces as 
> indicator menus for sound/session, and network manager are accessible, 
> however you can only get to them with the mouse. If you were to open 
> nautilus, you can navigate files/do whatever you can do normally within that 
> nautilus window. Shortcut keys for opening the terminal still exist, and the 
> terminal is accessible, but thats it.

Orca are working there because they are not Unity itself.

> Unity uses the clutter toolkit, which is getting accessibility support 
> upstream, but the version in maverick has no accessibility support. I am not 
> sure what the plans are for Natty.

After a quick check [1], maverick is shiphing clutter 1.2.4 It doesn't
have still the accessibility support (cally) integrated. As you said,
you would require to use the upstream clutter version, or try to load
cally.

Anyway, as in the case on gnome-shell, having clutter with
accessibility support is just the first step. It would be also
required to load the atk-bridge module. More information in the
equivalent gnome-shell bug [2]

[1] http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/packages/show/247461
[2] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=612599

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Re: Unity and Orca?

2010-10-10 Thread Luke Yelavich
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 10:16:21AM EST, Guy Schlosser wrote:
>  I'm seeing the same problem with unity and orca.  Accessibility is
> great once you get into a program, but getting there is another
> thing.  Is there a way to remove unity and go back to a two-pannel
> configuration like on the desktop, or the netbook interface
> available in Lucid?  Any help with this would be greatly
> appreciated.

First, make sure you have the ubuntu-desktop package installed. Once installed, 
make sure you have an accessible gdm login, i.e you have speech available at 
login. Once you do, log out/restart, and get to the login screen. Select the 
user you want to log in as, then navigate to the bottom panel, where you will 
find an option to select the login session. There you want to choose GNOME.

Luke

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Re: Unity and Orca?

2010-10-10 Thread Guy Schlosser
  I'm seeing the same problem with unity and orca.  Accessibility is 
great once you get into a program, but getting there is another thing.  
Is there a way to remove unity and go back to a two-pannel configuration 
like on the desktop, or the netbook interface available in Lucid?  Any 
help with this would be greatly appreciated.  One thing I considered was 
to go to the keyboard shortcuts menu and set up shortcuts for commonly 
used apps.  Thanks in advance for the help.

Thanks,


Guy


On 10/10/2010 06:08 PM, Luke Yelavich wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 07:57:48AM EST, Dave Hunt wrote:
>>Does anyone have experience running the new Unity interface and the
>> version of Orca that ships as part of 10.10?
> I tried using orca with unity a week or so back, and I can tell you that it 
> doesn't work, for the vast majority of the unity shell. Such pieces as 
> indicator menus for sound/session, and network manager are accessible, 
> however you can only get to them with the mouse. If you were to open 
> nautilus, you can navigate files/do whatever you can do normally within that 
> nautilus window. Shortcut keys for opening the terminal still exist, and the 
> terminal is accessible, but thats it.
>
> Unity uses the clutter toolkit, which is getting accessibility support 
> upstream, but the version in maverick has no accessibility support. I am not 
> sure what the plans are for Natty.
>
> Luke
>


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Re: Unity and Orca?

2010-10-10 Thread Luke Yelavich
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 07:57:48AM EST, Dave Hunt wrote:
>   Does anyone have experience running the new Unity interface and the 
> version of Orca that ships as part of 10.10?

I tried using orca with unity a week or so back, and I can tell you that it 
doesn't work, for the vast majority of the unity shell. Such pieces as 
indicator menus for sound/session, and network manager are accessible, however 
you can only get to them with the mouse. If you were to open nautilus, you can 
navigate files/do whatever you can do normally within that nautilus window. 
Shortcut keys for opening the terminal still exist, and the terminal is 
accessible, but thats it.

Unity uses the clutter toolkit, which is getting accessibility support 
upstream, but the version in maverick has no accessibility support. I am not 
sure what the plans are for Natty.

Luke

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