Re: working with magnification
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 10:47:29PM AEST, Milton wrote: > Thank you Luke for the information. It gives me hope for my projects using > the LTS 16.04. For now I have to figure out about the Compiz settings for to > try out. Do you mean Compiz with the GNOME shell?magnifier No, GNOME shell is a different shell to Unity, thus it will not work alongside compiz. GNOME Shell uses clutter for 3D rendering, so has its own internal magnifier. Luke -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: working with magnification
Thank you for some clarification. I found: http://www.hamradioandvision.com/compiz-magnification-in-ubuntu/ ccsm is not fully accessible with Orca. But we are one step further. Milton Op 18-07-15 om 06:51 schreef blind Pete: Milton wrote: Hi blind Pete, I could not get further because I do not know what buttons are button1, button2 etc. Can you or somebody tell me if I set Zoom-inn to button4 what button that is on my keyboard and also for button5? Thanks in advance. Milton [snip] On a standard mouse; button 1 is the left mouse button, button 2 is the middle button (press the scroll wheel down), button 3 is the right button, button 4 means scroll the mouse wheel one way, button 5 means scroll the wheel the other way. Exotic mice might have more buttons. If you want to be difficult you can reassign buttons in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but I strongly discourage that. On the keyboard; , , and should be obvious. Very old keyboards do not have a Super/Windows/Tux key, most have a Windows logo on a key between the Control and Alt keys. (One on each side of the keyboard.) Also, if you have a European keyboard there is one more key than on a US keyboard, and the left and right Alt keys are different. "" means hold down one of the keys with a Windows logo on it and scroll the mouse wheel. If you are very lucky you might have pictures of penguins rather than windows. Off topic: "Top-posting" is normal for most e-mail and some USENET groups. "Bottom posting is more normal around here. Be prepared to trim stuff that you are not replying to. I usually add an "editor's mark" like "[snip]" to indicate that I have deleted stuff. Anyone who wants to see the original can easily go back to an older message. I am accessing this as a news group via nntp at gmane.linux.ubuntu.devel.accessibility although I guess that you are using it as e-mail. Consider using a news reader rather than a mail agent. It is also possible to look at old posts with a web browser. Also if your signature starts with dash dash space most news readers will recognize it as a signature and automatically not include it any reply. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: working with magnification
Milton wrote: > Hi blind Pete, > > I could not get further because I do not know what buttons are button1, > button2 etc. > Can you or somebody tell me if I set Zoom-inn to button4 what button > that is on my keyboard and also for button5? Thanks in advance. > Milton [snip] On a standard mouse; button 1 is the left mouse button, button 2 is the middle button (press the scroll wheel down), button 3 is the right button, button 4 means scroll the mouse wheel one way, button 5 means scroll the wheel the other way. Exotic mice might have more buttons. If you want to be difficult you can reassign buttons in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but I strongly discourage that. On the keyboard; , , and should be obvious. Very old keyboards do not have a Super/Windows/Tux key, most have a Windows logo on a key between the Control and Alt keys. (One on each side of the keyboard.) Also, if you have a European keyboard there is one more key than on a US keyboard, and the left and right Alt keys are different. "" means hold down one of the keys with a Windows logo on it and scroll the mouse wheel. If you are very lucky you might have pictures of penguins rather than windows. Off topic: "Top-posting" is normal for most e-mail and some USENET groups. "Bottom posting is more normal around here. Be prepared to trim stuff that you are not replying to. I usually add an "editor's mark" like "[snip]" to indicate that I have deleted stuff. Anyone who wants to see the original can easily go back to an older message. I am accessing this as a news group via nntp at gmane.linux.ubuntu.devel.accessibility although I guess that you are using it as e-mail. Consider using a news reader rather than a mail agent. It is also possible to look at old posts with a web browser. Also if your signature starts with dash dash space most news readers will recognize it as a signature and automatically not include it any reply. -- blind Pete Sig goes here... -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re : Re: Re : working with magnification
- Milton a écrit : > Thank you Jean-Hilippe. Is the GNOME magnifyer Compiz? No. It is a specific tool written by someone from GNOME. They have their own tool > Milton > > Op 15-07-15 om 13:57 schreef MENGUAL Jean-Philippe: > > Hi, > > > > Gnome3 now has a magnifier which seems to work all right, although > > improvements are required. Otherwise, for our Universal Access System, we > > use MATE and Compiz, which work too even if we have likemore work to do so > > that the visual quality could reach a hig quality, but dev is in progress. > > > > regards > > > > Jean-Philippe MENGUAL > > > > HYPRA, progressons ensemble > > > > Tél.: 01 84 73 06 61 > > > > Mail: cont...@hypra.fr > > > > Site Web: http://www.hypra.fr > > > > - Milton a écrit : > >> A question for helping out a friend: can you recommand a system to work > >> with magnification? Thanks in advance. > >> Milton > >> > >> -- > >> Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list > >> Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com > >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility > > > > -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Re : working with magnification
Thank you Jean-Hilippe. Is the GNOME magnifyer Compiz? Milton Op 15-07-15 om 13:57 schreef MENGUAL Jean-Philippe: Hi, Gnome3 now has a magnifier which seems to work all right, although improvements are required. Otherwise, for our Universal Access System, we use MATE and Compiz, which work too even if we have likemore work to do so that the visual quality could reach a hig quality, but dev is in progress. regards Jean-Philippe MENGUAL HYPRA, progressons ensemble Tél.: 01 84 73 06 61 Mail: cont...@hypra.fr Site Web: http://www.hypra.fr - Milton a écrit : A question for helping out a friend: can you recommand a system to work with magnification? Thanks in advance. Milton -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: working with magnification
Hi blind Pete, I could not get further because I do not know what buttons are button1, button2 etc. Can you or somebody tell me if I set Zoom-inn to button4 what button that is on my keyboard and also for button5? Thanks in advance. Milton Op 17-07-15 om 06:07 schreef blind Pete: Milton wrote: I tried virtual Magnifyer Glass in GNOME Metacity. So my friend has to judge by himself if it is good enough. Last year I tried Compiz but I could not put the settings right. [snip] How far did you get? "ccsm", check "enable enhanced zoom desktop", set mouse zoom in button to "Button4" and mouse zoom out button to "Button5". -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: working with magnification
Thank you Luke for the information. It gives me hope for my projects using the LTS 16.04. For now I have to figure out about the Compiz settings for to try out. Do you mean Compiz with the GNOME shell?magnifier Milton Op 17-07-15 om 00:45 schreef Luke Yelavich: On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 12:49:29AM AEST, Milton wrote: I tried virtual Magnifyer Glass in GNOME Metacity. So my friend has to judge by himself if it is good enough. Last year I tried Compiz but I could not put the settings right. If your friend needs cursor/text tarcking, then the GNOME shell magnifier is likely the best option. GNOME Shell 3.16 will be in Wily, due for release in October, and I am pretty sure that has cursor/textt tracking. Its also in vivid's GNOME shell 3.14, but I am not sure whether 3.16 has improvements in that area or not, so it will need investigation. Luke -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: working with magnification
Milton wrote: > I tried virtual Magnifyer Glass in GNOME Metacity. So my friend has to > judge by himself if it is good enough. Last year I tried Compiz but I > could not put the settings right. [snip] How far did you get? "ccsm", check "enable enhanced zoom desktop", set mouse zoom in button to "Button4" and mouse zoom out button to "Button5". -- blind Pete Sig goes here... -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: working with magnification
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 12:49:29AM AEST, Milton wrote: > I tried virtual Magnifyer Glass in GNOME Metacity. So my friend has to judge > by himself if it is good enough. Last year I tried Compiz but I could not > put the settings right. If your friend needs cursor/text tarcking, then the GNOME shell magnifier is likely the best option. GNOME Shell 3.16 will be in Wily, due for release in October, and I am pretty sure that has cursor/textt tracking. Its also in vivid's GNOME shell 3.14, but I am not sure whether 3.16 has improvements in that area or not, so it will need investigation. Luke -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: working with magnification
I tried virtual Magnifyer Glass in GNOME Metacity. So my friend has to judge by himself if it is good enough. Last year I tried Compiz but I could not put the settings right. Milton Op 16-07-15 om 09:23 schreef blind Pete: Milton wrote: A question for helping out a friend: can you recommand a system to work with magnification? Thanks in advance. Milton I am not sure how well compiz is supported, or if it is being superseded, but I love the e-zoom feature. With Mythbuntu LTS (and a bit of configuration) holding down the Tux/Windows/Super key and scrolling the mouse wheel puts the screen into a zoom and pan mode. Or, buy a bigger screen, and reconfigure everything to use large fonts, large icons, large pointers, etc. Sometimes you can cheat and tell the computer that the screen is a different size from what it really is - but things tend to get messy when you do that. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: working with magnification
Milton wrote: > A question for helping out a friend: can you recommand a system to work > with magnification? Thanks in advance. > Milton I am not sure how well compiz is supported, or if it is being superseded, but I love the e-zoom feature. With Mythbuntu LTS (and a bit of configuration) holding down the Tux/Windows/Super key and scrolling the mouse wheel puts the screen into a zoom and pan mode. Or, buy a bigger screen, and reconfigure everything to use large fonts, large icons, large pointers, etc. Sometimes you can cheat and tell the computer that the screen is a different size from what it really is - but things tend to get messy when you do that. -- blind Pete Sig goes here... -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re : working with magnification
Hi, Gnome3 now has a magnifier which seems to work all right, although improvements are required. Otherwise, for our Universal Access System, we use MATE and Compiz, which work too even if we have likemore work to do so that the visual quality could reach a hig quality, but dev is in progress. regards Jean-Philippe MENGUAL HYPRA, progressons ensemble Tél.: 01 84 73 06 61 Mail: cont...@hypra.fr Site Web: http://www.hypra.fr - Milton a écrit : > A question for helping out a friend: can you recommand a system to work > with magnification? Thanks in advance. > Milton > > -- > Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list > Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
