Re: ubuntu 12.04 and alt+tab
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 08:36:43AM EST, Guy Schlosser wrote: > Hi Jose, same behavior on my machine. Pressing alt by itself, now > brings up the HUD (Head Up Display), which is not yet accessible. > If you want the menu bar of terminal or any other app, press > alt+f10. As for my suspition about key bindings, I'm thinking I'm > right. I launched the keyboard applet under system settings, went > to the shortcuts tab, and set up alt+f4 as a shortcut for close > window, then alt+tab as a shortcut for switch applications, and both > are now working as expected. Did someone forget to bind them by > default in Unity 2d? Just my curiosity, and I hope this helps. They are indeed bound by default, but something must have messed them up in your settings somehow. Luke -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: ubuntu 12.04 and alt+tab
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 08:34:59AM EST, Alan Bell wrote: > Last time I tested it read out all 5 suggestions in unity2d as "push > button" and was silent in unity3d which is sub-optimal. > this is bug 949445 > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-appmenu/+bug/949445 Its likely to be easier to fix in unity-2d than it will be for Unity 3D. I hope to find time to try and address the Unity 2D side, but my knowledge of QML is currently limited. Luke -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: ubuntu 12.04 and alt+tab
Hi Jose, same behavior on my machine. Pressing alt by itself, now brings up the HUD (Head Up Display), which is not yet accessible. If you want the menu bar of terminal or any other app, press alt+f10. As for my suspition about key bindings, I'm thinking I'm right. I launched the keyboard applet under system settings, went to the shortcuts tab, and set up alt+f4 as a shortcut for close window, then alt+tab as a shortcut for switch applications, and both are now working as expected. Did someone forget to bind them by default in Unity 2d? Just my curiosity, and I hope this helps. Later, Guy -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: ubuntu 12.04 and alt+tab
On 13/03/12 21:22, José Vilmar Estácio de Souza wrote: Hi, I don't have an answer, but can you test something please? 1. Launch terminal. 2. Press the alt key, only the alt key. What happens? In my environment orca reads shell filler. Thanks. I think this is because it has opened the HUD which is a thing a bit like the dash visually, it is a search box that searches through the menu of the current application. It is not correctly accessible at the moment which is a shame, it consists of a field and 5 suggestions below of what you might mean. For example if you have focus in gedit you can hit alt and type "insert" and the top option in the list of 5 will be "edit > insert date and time". It does some fuzzy matching and guesswork to come up with the suggestions. Last time I tested it read out all 5 suggestions in unity2d as "push button" and was silent in unity3d which is sub-optimal. this is bug 949445 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-appmenu/+bug/949445 and I am sure that Ted and Gord will be right on to this soon Alan. -- The Open Learning Centre is rebranding, find out about our new name and look at http://libertus.co.uk -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: ubuntu 12.04 and alt+tab
Hi, I don't have an answer, but can you test something please? 1. Launch terminal. 2. Press the alt key, only the alt key. What happens? In my environment orca reads shell filler. Thanks. On 03/13/2012 06:08 PM, Guy Schlosser wrote: Hi all, is there any way to check key bindings in Unity-2d? The reason for my asking, is that I have suspition as to whether alt+tab, alt+f4 and alt+space are even bound to any actions in the 2d environment. I have tested other environments under Ubuntu 12.04, including Unity-3d, gnome-shell, and gnome fallback, and all three of the keystrokes I mentioned work as they're supposed to. I dist-upgraded my system a half hour ago, and still can't use any of those three keystrokes in Unity-2d. Any help or info would be greatly appreciated. As always, thanks much in advance. Guy -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: ubuntu 12.04 and alt+tab
Hi all, is there any way to check key bindings in Unity-2d? The reason for my asking, is that I have suspition as to whether alt+tab, alt+f4 and alt+space are even bound to any actions in the 2d environment. I have tested other environments under Ubuntu 12.04, including Unity-3d, gnome-shell, and gnome fallback, and all three of the keystrokes I mentioned work as they're supposed to. I dist-upgraded my system a half hour ago, and still can't use any of those three keystrokes in Unity-2d. Any help or info would be greatly appreciated. As always, thanks much in advance. Guy -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: ubuntu 12.04 and alt+tab
In addition what is happening in my environment is that when I press the alt key alone, ubuntu reacts as if I had pressed the super key. When I press the alt key, I hear shell filler. I need to press the escape key to use the system. How can I run unity-3d? Thanks. On 03/09/2012 08:21 PM, Guy Schlosser wrote: Hey there Luke and Jose, I just wanted to write about what I've noticed with the alt+tab issue. It seems that whatever is wrong, is only wrong with Unity 2d. I installed the latest updates on my desktop, running Unity 3d, and alt+tab works just fine, along with alt+space for the minimize/maximize menu, and alt+f4. I then booted into Unity 2d on the same desktop machine, and have the same problems, as on my laptop running Unity 2d. On a more positive note though, I was glad to hear that the menus are now reading again after today's updates. For me, in Unity 2d and 3d both. I hope this helps narrow down the problem, and look forward to being able to use alt+tab again in Unity 2d. Thanks to all for all the hard work, Guy -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: ubuntu 12.04 and alt+tab
Hey there Luke and Jose, I just wanted to write about what I've noticed with the alt+tab issue. It seems that whatever is wrong, is only wrong with Unity 2d. I installed the latest updates on my desktop, running Unity 3d, and alt+tab works just fine, along with alt+space for the minimize/maximize menu, and alt+f4. I then booted into Unity 2d on the same desktop machine, and have the same problems, as on my laptop running Unity 2d. On a more positive note though, I was glad to hear that the menus are now reading again after today's updates. For me, in Unity 2d and 3d both. I hope this helps narrow down the problem, and look forward to being able to use alt+tab again in Unity 2d. Thanks to all for all the hard work, Guy -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: ubuntu 12.04 and alt+tab
On Fri, Mar 09, 2012 at 12:46:06PM EST, Guy Schlosser wrote: > Hi Jose, When you press alt+f1, if you're using Unity 2d, orca > should say "shell filler". Then arrow down to the program you want > (e.g. terminal). It should also say "one window open" for example, > then just press enter. Definitely a pain, but works 'til alt+tab > gets fixed. Hum ok, its working just fine for me with latest updates. Let me do a fresh install on another machine, and see if I can reproduce the issue there. Luke -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: ubuntu 12.04 and alt+tab
Hi Jose, When you press alt+f1, if you're using Unity 2d, orca should say "shell filler". Then arrow down to the program you want (e.g. terminal). It should also say "one window open" for example, then just press enter. Definitely a pain, but works 'til alt+tab gets fixed. Thanks, Guy On 03/08/2012 08:10 PM, José Vilmar Estácio de Souza wrote: Hi Guy, Please forgive my dumb question, but how can I switch windows using the launcher? Thanks. On 03/08/2012 10:00 PM, Guy Schlosser wrote: Actually, I just updated my system 20 minutes ago, and I still can't use alt+tab or alt+f4 in Unity 2d. The only way I can switch windows is to use the launcher. One thing I did notice though, is that the quick menus are now working. This is super cool for me, since I use my jump drive quite a bit, and can now easily eject it. Should these keys be working? Are the bindings still alt+tab and alt+f4? Any suggestions would be appreciated, and looking forward to 12.04 release. Thanks, Guy On 03/08/2012 04:32 PM, Luke Yelavich wrote:ncher. On Fri, Mar 09, 2012 at 06:09:28AM EST, José Vilmar Estácio de Souza wrote: Hi all. Seems that I can not use alt+tab to change to another window. Is there a workaround? Yes, use unity-2d, and make sure you have the latest updates. Luke -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: ubuntu 12.04 and alt+tab
Hi Guy, Please forgive my dumb question, but how can I switch windows using the launcher? Thanks. On 03/08/2012 10:00 PM, Guy Schlosser wrote: Actually, I just updated my system 20 minutes ago, and I still can't use alt+tab or alt+f4 in Unity 2d. The only way I can switch windows is to use the launcher. One thing I did notice though, is that the quick menus are now working. This is super cool for me, since I use my jump drive quite a bit, and can now easily eject it. Should these keys be working? Are the bindings still alt+tab and alt+f4? Any suggestions would be appreciated, and looking forward to 12.04 release. Thanks, Guy On 03/08/2012 04:32 PM, Luke Yelavich wrote:ncher. On Fri, Mar 09, 2012 at 06:09:28AM EST, José Vilmar Estácio de Souza wrote: Hi all. Seems that I can not use alt+tab to change to another window. Is there a workaround? Yes, use unity-2d, and make sure you have the latest updates. Luke -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: ubuntu 12.04 and alt+tab
Actually, I just updated my system 20 minutes ago, and I still can't use alt+tab or alt+f4 in Unity 2d. The only way I can switch windows is to use the launcher. One thing I did notice though, is that the quick menus are now working. This is super cool for me, since I use my jump drive quite a bit, and can now easily eject it. Should these keys be working? Are the bindings still alt+tab and alt+f4? Any suggestions would be appreciated, and looking forward to 12.04 release. Thanks, Guy On 03/08/2012 04:32 PM, Luke Yelavich wrote:ncher. On Fri, Mar 09, 2012 at 06:09:28AM EST, José Vilmar Estácio de Souza wrote: Hi all. Seems that I can not use alt+tab to change to another window. Is there a workaround? Yes, use unity-2d, and make sure you have the latest updates. Luke -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: ubuntu 12.04 and alt+tab
Hi Luke. I am using unity2d with all updates. This is the default installation when installing using orca, isn't it? My test case is: Press alt+t to open a terminal and press alt+t to open another terminal. Now try to switch from one terminal to the other pressing alt+tab. In my environment it doesn't work. I am running 12.04 using a virtual machine and the VM is running under ubuntu 11.10 with all updates. Thanks. On 03/08/2012 06:32 PM, Luke Yelavich wrote: On Fri, Mar 09, 2012 at 06:09:28AM EST, José Vilmar Estácio de Souza wrote: Hi all. Seems that I can not use alt+tab to change to another window. Is there a workaround? Yes, use unity-2d, and make sure you have the latest updates. Luke -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: ubuntu 12.04 and alt+tab
On Fri, Mar 09, 2012 at 06:09:28AM EST, José Vilmar Estácio de Souza wrote: > Hi all. > Seems that I can not use alt+tab to change to another window. > > Is there a workaround? Yes, use unity-2d, and make sure you have the latest updates. Luke -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
ubuntu 12.04 and alt+tab
Hi all. Seems that I can not use alt+tab to change to another window. Is there a workaround? Thanks. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
