Re: [ubuntu-art] Themes for polishing
On 3/2/06, Pascal Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 10:46:57 + > Who <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi, and hello list! > > > > I thought, given what Mark has said recently about getting some high > > quality, polished themes into the repositories soon, that we ought to get > > straight to discussing which themes will be 'operated on'. > > Pascal, I will not be able to attend the meeting this weekend, but let me contribute some food for thought. The art-list until now has been a place where people tossed out ideas and art they have done. This is fine, but if the goal is to get art into Universe so that it can be considered for inclusion into main, maybe there should be a discussion as to what the decision makers want to see. It is much easier to hit the target when you can see the target. Blindly shooting arrows into the sky may result in a direct hit, but it's not likely. I'm still using Breezy and Hoary, so I can't see what graphical elements have been proposed for Dapper and therefore can't make direct suggestions, but here is what might be asked and therefore decided upon: - what colors should be used? - is there a theme that should underlie the artwork? (for example, when RH released blue curve, there was a definite theme and coherency to the artwork) - what are our greatest needs? - the difference between a slick, polished, enterprise grade application and something that looks like it was hobbled together is the attention to detail. Therefore, identify areas of the interface that look 'fine' or 'not bad' but don't have the professional 'shine' that we want to be represented in the Linux community for the next 5 years (the expected support life span of dapper). Dapper is going to be around a while, and if anyone on the art-list wants to be relevant to the upcoming project, they need to think long-term when they think about this release. Five years from now there will be people saying, "Well... it's about time we upgrade those old Dapper computers..." Their thoughts about the look and feel could be one of the following: - "Remember when these came out? They really set the bar for the next few generations of desktops." or - "Wow, can you believe someone thought this looked good?" This weekend's meeting can decide what people will be saying when that day comes. -- Matthew Nuzum www.bearfruit.org -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] youth theme
On Thu, 2006-03-02 at 15:34 +, Who wrote: > On 3/2/06, Nikolai Dunkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey everyone! > > As I understand it we're supposed to be making coherent themes > for inclusion into ubuntu. I'm trying to "gather" people > around me here (mark's words) :D > > So here's my idea: we make a "cool/stylish" theme, that doesnt > necessarily have to reflect "humanity" in every breath as the > default theme does. It's more about style. I'm gonna be so > bold as to suggest this attatched image as a background. > On the forums some people once started making a theme around > an old version of this image, maybe someone is interested in > doing one now?! > > cheers, n. > > more here > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLogoMascotSuggestionMedicineMask > > > > If you want to gather a team, I think that would be great - could you > add the ideas to here: > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkTeam/AdditionalThemes > > I think that if we let everyone who wants to do a theme shoot off in > their own > direction before deciding on a small number fo themes to prefect we > will end up with many imcomplete attempts (no slur on you - just that > I think it would be better if we focussed on 3 ideas, as Mark > suggested) - thus, I reckon adding ideas to here until the 9th when > the top 3 are chosen would be best - the voting and the three to use > are on the meeting aganda for the weekend... > > I like the idea of s slick theme - check out Water Vapour (link in > that wiki page) - see if you like it > > *waves flag for Water Vapour and NuovEXT > > Who > > On 3/2/06, Nikolai Dunkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey everyone! > > As I understand it we're supposed to be making coherent themes > for inclusion into ubuntu. I'm trying to "gather" people > around me here (mark's words) :D > > So here's my idea: we make a "cool/stylish" theme, that doesnt > necessarily have to reflect "humanity" in every breath as the > default theme does. It's more about style. I'm gonna be so > bold as to suggest this image as a background. > On the forums some people once started making a theme around > an old version of this image, maybe someone is interested in > doing one now?! > > cheers, n. > > more here > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLogoMascotSuggestionMedicineMask I think we should pick out three (or pick any number) basic ideas, and base a theme on each one. Each theme-idea should be targeted at a specific audience. Of the top of my head, base ideas could be: I) Stylish, glossy. II) Flat, simple, fast. III) Flashy, colorful, cartoonish (gartoon iconset anyone :D) I suggest these "Minimum Theme Requirements": - GTK theme (GT) - Metacity theme (MT) - Icon theme (IT) - GT must go well with Firefox - IT must contain Evolution stock icons - Generally have an Ubuntu feel to it Optional theme properties: - Other application stock icons. Fx. Gaim emoticons. - A suggested wallpaper - Various splashes The reason why I include the last Evo point is that the theme should really change the entire desktop. A theme should really change the feel of the *entire* desktop. Half-***ed themes are only so much fun. Cheers, Mikkel -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Re: Draft of new icons for Dapper
> On 3/1/06, Jochen Kaechelin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Am Dienstag, 28. Februar 2006 11:47 schrieb Mark Shuttleworth: >> > Hi all >> > >> > As you may know we will have some classy new icons for Dapper. This is >> > not a complete icon set, but it focuses on files, folders and devices, >> > as well as the things that are directly visible from the default >> desktop. >> > >> > You can see a small preview of work in progress at: >> > >> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperIcons >> > >> > Regards, >> > Mark >> >> Great Job!!! > > > > > Some questions: > 1. Which iconset will these icons go in to - will they override the > equivalent icons from all iconsets (I assume not!)? > 2. Are these directly from Humility, or are they a separate project? > 3. Who do we discuss ideas/ways to help/contributions with? > > Thanks, > > Who > -- > ubuntu-art mailing list > ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > Are these icons available under a free license? Is there a package with the icons released? A tar or something? I'd really like to try and clean up the small ones. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] youth theme
Hey everyone!As I understand it we're supposed to be making coherent themes for inclusion into ubuntu. I'm trying to "gather" people around me here (mark's words) :DSo here's my idea: we make a "cool/stylish" theme, that doesnt necessarily have to reflect "humanity" in every breath as the default theme does. It's more about style. I'm gonna be so bold as to suggest this image as a background. On the forums some people once started making a theme around an old version of this image, maybe someone is interested in doing one now?!cheers, n.more here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLogoMascotSuggestionMedicineMask -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] youth theme
On 3/2/06, Nikolai Dunkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hey everyone!As I understand it we're supposed to be making coherent themes for inclusion into ubuntu. I'm trying to "gather" people around me here (mark's words) :DSo here's my idea: we make a "cool/stylish" theme, that doesnt necessarily have to reflect "humanity" in every breath as the default theme does. It's more about style. I'm gonna be so bold as to suggest this attatched image as a background. On the forums some people once started making a theme around an old version of this image, maybe someone is interested in doing one now?!cheers, n.more here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLogoMascotSuggestionMedicineMaskIf you want to gather a team, I think that would be great - could you add the ideas to here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkTeam/AdditionalThemesI think that if we let everyone who wants to do a theme shoot off in their own direction before deciding on a small number fo themes to prefect we will end up with many imcomplete attempts (no slur on you - just that I think it would be better if we focussed on 3 ideas, as Mark suggested) - thus, I reckon adding ideas to here until the 9th when the top 3 are chosen would be best - the voting and the three to use are on the meeting aganda for the weekend... I like the idea of s slick theme - check out Water Vapour (link in that wiki page) - see if you like it*waves flag for Water Vapour and NuovEXTWhoOn 3/2/06, Nikolai Dunkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hey everyone!As I understand it we're supposed to be making coherent themes for inclusion into ubuntu. I'm trying to "gather" people around me here (mark's words) :DSo here's my idea: we make a "cool/stylish" theme, that doesnt necessarily have to reflect "humanity" in every breath as the default theme does. It's more about style. I'm gonna be so bold as to suggest this image as a background. On the forums some people once started making a theme around an old version of this image, maybe someone is interested in doing one now?!cheers, n.more here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLogoMascotSuggestionMedicineMask--ubuntu-art mailing listubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Re: Draft of new icons for Dapper
On 3/1/06, Jochen Kaechelin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Am Dienstag, 28. Februar 2006 11:47 schrieb Mark Shuttleworth:> Hi all>> As you may know we will have some classy new icons for Dapper. This is> not a complete icon set, but it focuses on files, folders and devices, > as well as the things that are directly visible from the default desktop.>> You can see a small preview of work in progress at:>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperIcons >> Regards,> MarkGreat Job!!! Some questions:1. Which iconset will these icons go in to - will they override the equivalent icons from all iconsets (I assume not!)? 2. Are these directly from Humility, or are they a separate project?3. Who do we discuss ideas/ways to help/contributions with?Thanks,Who -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Call for artwork uploads
Hi all With the UI sprint taking place next week in London, we would very much like to have the best current work in place in Dapper when that begins. So, those of you who have icons, desktops, themese etc which are on your hard drives ready to go but not uploaded, please work with the developers this week to get them in and looking as good as possible before Monday. Thanks! Mark -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Themes for polishing
On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 10:46:57 + Who <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, and hello list! > > I thought, given what Mark has said recently about getting some high > quality, polished themes into the repositories soon, that we ought to get > straight to discussing which themes will be 'operated on'. > > Can I confirm what we mean by theme: is it icons+Metacity+GTK theme, or is > it just a GTK Theme > I have the following ideas. Yes, these are packages and thus extend to wallpapers, icon sets and splash screens as well. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkTeam/Meetings/Agenda > 1. We have at least one 'unifying theme' - containing icons for KDE and for > GNOME that are very similar/identical, that by default co-ordinates colours > and sets QTandGTK to use themes that look as similar as possible > My personal proposals for these are either > Icons: > *Tango (http://tango-project.org/) > *NuovEXT (http://nuovext.pwsp.net/) > Both of these also have Firefox themes. Can we apply Firefox themes using a > .deb? > Theme > *Industrial and some work using the Suse-released qindustrial - this is very > hard to get hold of and would be a real coup f we could get it polished for > Dapper - may people think Industrial is the best theme for Gnome - so it > would be great to allow them to integrate KDE apps( > http://www.novell.com/products/linuxpackages/professional/qindustrial.htmland > http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=22913). Are there issues > with being 'polite' to Novel and Jakub? > *Plastik themed to look like Clearlooks and Clearlooks looking like Plastik > *Mandrake Galaxy - I will post some screenshots somewhere of how good this > can look with the right colours - and it is identical on KDE/Gnome. How can > we get/build the theme engine for Ubuntu? > 2.We discuss which will be our top three for _one week_ (so submissions end > on 9th March 06), and after that week make a decision and start developing. > If anyone feels that their pet theme isn't among the ones we decide on then > they can lead a team to do that. Ideally we shouldn't do this though, > because it will reduce the efficiency of the other teams (by distracting > potential contributors). Can we use > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkTeam/Voting for voting, or the forums (see > below)? These are awesome ideas. A tango package with a Tango splash, wallpaper (s), icon theme, Firefox theme, Thunderbird theme, GTK and Metacity them would be awesome. This is what we are looking at for each and could easily be added. Given they would be added essentially immediately to the universe repositories we could even allocate a maintainer of each set/package. For example the Tango package would need to be updated every few months after considerable updates of new icons. There are many other items you've listed there and I could see almost every single one as a set. Exciting stuff! :) > 3. Each group can do what they want after this date, but I think it would be > useful if we could make user-viewable specs about what we are doing in the > Wiki - so forum users etc can have their say. this will also help artists > who aren't from the group to contribute work - if the spec on the wiki is > clear then what we want/need will be obvious. > > 4.All suggestions should be accompanied by links, so that we don't all > duplicate our time googling for information about a particular > theme/iconset. > > 5. (I'm not sure about this) We check back for a review in 4 weeks from now Excellent idea. > I have created this page: > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkTeam/AdditionalThemes > that we can use as a central place for suggestions. Please post > simultaneously to this thread and to that wiki page. > > Do people think we should open this up to the people on the forums? we could > perhaps using the forum voting system and thus also get more volunteers. This coming weekend is the Artwork Weekend. This can all be managed through that. > If I am talking out of line, I am sorry, this is just an enthusiastic post > designed to be constructive. I stress I only think these are suggestions. I > don't have any authority! No, this is precisely what we need! Thank you very much for your suggestions and links. Looking forward to catching up and discussing some of these ideas in the IRC channel as soon as possible. > Enjoy suggestions! > > Who > Thanks and cheers, Pascal -- Pascal Klein http://wombat.nuxified.com Ubuntu Art team http://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtTeam Linux Australia http://www.linux.org.au -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Artwork Weekend
Ahoy all, This weekend, coinciding with the Ubuntu UI sprint happening in London, might as well be a nice time to catch up, get some decisions and work done, so I suppose let us dub it the 'Artwork Weekend'. This has several implications, especially meeting wise. Please note (!) there is no set discussion time set for this. Come and go to the artwork IRC channel (#ubuntu-artwork) and catch up with what is happening, show the work you've worked on and overall, help cover the agenda items. So, the relevant information for this weekend is: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkTeam/Meetings -- Timing, about the meeting https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkTeam/Meetings/Agenda -- The agenda https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkTeam/ArtworkWeekend -- Note the discussions https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkTeam/Voting -- For any voting purposes. Please keep the results on the page so others can keep track of it. Cheers to all who've already put in ideas thus far. I look forward to discussing them in detail. :) Cheers, Pascal PS. To the Fridge folks: chance this could be added as an event into the calendar? :) -- Pascal Klein http://wombat.nuxified.com Ubuntu Art team http://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtTeam Linux Australia http://www.linux.org.au -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Getting this act together
On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 10:24:10 + Henrik Nilsen Omma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We could also add an icon set to the example-content, esp. an SVG one > which won't require much space, because an icon set can be added very > easily via drag and drop. We would then use this page: > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperExampleContent/ReadMe to explain how to do > that installation (that will be an HTML page on the CD). For this then I'd recommend Tango or Andy's Etiquette set. Tango maybe somewhat large, so Etiquette would be an ideal choice. > Feedback and corrections are also welcome on that readme page as well as > any of the content within the example-content package: > http://people.ubuntu.com/~henrik/examplecontent/dapper/current/ There > are for example some OpenOffice docs in there that could still do with > some love. Specifically: > > * We need an OpenOffice Draw file - something nice and Ubuntu related :) > * The impress file is based on 'Great Features of Ubuntu' but could do > with updating and eye-candy love > * We need a Calc sheet with some boring numbers that are shown as > dazzling plots and charts > * The Writer Document is now decent IMO, but could also be improved by > someone with an eye for design I'm sure. > > So those are some concrete tasks that could do with some help :) > > - Henrik > > -- > ubuntu-art mailing list > ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > > I've added this an item to the next meeting agenda. I'll mail the info about that within a few minutes of writing this email Kind regards, Pascal -- Pascal Klein http://wombat.nuxified.com Ubuntu Art team http://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtTeam Linux Australia http://www.linux.org.au -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Themes for polishing
Hi, and hello list!I thought, given what Mark has said recently about getting some high quality, polished themes into the repositories soon, that we ought to get straight to discussing which themes will be 'operated on'. Can I confirm what we mean by theme: is it icons+Metacity+GTK theme, or is it just a GTK ThemeI have the following ideas.1. We have at least one 'unifying theme' - containing icons for KDE and for GNOME that are very similar/identical, that by default co-ordinates colours and sets QTandGTK to use themes that look as similar as possible My personal proposals for these are eitherIcons:*Tango (http://tango-project.org/)*NuovEXT (http://nuovext.pwsp.net/) Both of these also have Firefox themes. Can we apply Firefox themes using a .deb? Theme*Industrial and some work using the Suse-released qindustrial - this is very hard to get hold of and would be a real coup f we could get it polished for Dapper - may people think Industrial is the best theme for Gnome - so it would be great to allow them to integrate KDE apps( http://www.novell.com/products/linuxpackages/professional/qindustrial.html and http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=22913). Are there issues with being 'polite' to Novel and Jakub?*Plastik themed to look like Clearlooks and Clearlooks looking like Plastik*Mandrake Galaxy - I will post some screenshots somewhere of how good this can look with the right colours - and it is identical on KDE/Gnome. How can we get/build the theme engine for Ubuntu? 2.We discuss which will be our top three for _one week_ (so submissions end on 9th March 06), and after that week make a decision and start developing. If anyone feels that their pet theme isn't among the ones we decide on then they can lead a team to do that. Ideally we shouldn't do this though, because it will reduce the efficiency of the other teams (by distracting potential contributors). Can we use https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkTeam/Voting for voting, or the forums (see below)?3. Each group can do what they want after this date, but I think it would be useful if we could make user-viewable specs about what we are doing in the Wiki - so forum users etc can have their say. this will also help artists who aren't from the group to contribute work - if the spec on the wiki is clear then what we want/need will be obvious. 4.All suggestions should be accompanied by links, so that we don't all duplicate our time googling for information about a particular theme/iconset.5. (I'm not sure about this) We check back for a review in 4 weeks from now I have created this page:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkTeam/AdditionalThemesthat we can use as a central place for suggestions. Please post simultaneously to this thread and to that wiki page. Do people think we should open this up to the people on the forums? we could perhaps using the forum voting system and thus also get more volunteers.If I am talking out of line, I am sorry, this is just an enthusiastic post designed to be constructive. I stress I only think these are suggestions. I don't have any authority! Enjoy suggestions!Who -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Getting this act together
Jerome Gotangco wrote: The example-content package currently has 11 community created wallpapers in 3 formats (SVG, PNG, and JPEG). I believe Henrik is the champion for this effort. I'd say we could easily slip in more artwork team stuff on that package and its already in main. Right. There is definitely room for giving feedback on that selection as well. I've asked for input and have gotten some, but basically I have simply selected the ones I though were best. If anyone has strong feelings about that; either items that should be taken out or added then this is a good time to suggest it (here or in the wiki). We could also add an icon set to the example-content, esp. an SVG one which won't require much space, because an icon set can be added very easily via drag and drop. We would then use this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperExampleContent/ReadMe to explain how to do that installation (that will be an HTML page on the CD). Feedback and corrections are also welcome on that readme page as well as any of the content within the example-content package: http://people.ubuntu.com/~henrik/examplecontent/dapper/current/ There are for example some OpenOffice docs in there that could still do with some love. Specifically: * We need an OpenOffice Draw file - something nice and Ubuntu related :) * The impress file is based on 'Great Features of Ubuntu' but could do with updating and eye-candy love * We need a Calc sheet with some boring numbers that are shown as dazzling plots and charts * The Writer Document is now decent IMO, but could also be improved by someone with an eye for design I'm sure. So those are some concrete tasks that could do with some help :) - Henrik -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Getting this act together
The example-content package currently has 11 community created wallpapers in 3 formats (SVG, PNG, and JPEG). I believe Henrik is the champion for this effort. I'd say we could easily slip in more artwork team stuff on that package and its already in main. Jerome On 3/2/06, Mark Shuttleworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Pascal Klein wrote: > let's focus on the few themed-packages that the art team could produce > and possibly, given they are good, make their way into universe or > mainstream. -- Jerome Gotangco [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile: +639196555242 GPG: 0xA97B69A0 -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Getting this act together
Pascal Klein wrote: let's focus on the few themed-packages that the art team could produce and possibly, given they are good, make their way into universe or mainstream. We can get them into universe almost immediately, then they are available for wider spread testing. In the long term, we should have one in main (best, high quality, complete ones) and one in universe (broader selection of new ones under development). We could also do with discussing a new art team leader as well as people interested in these themed art packages, leading their production and working with other interested souls. :) So, an art team meeting. How does this weekend sound? Sounds good. Our UI sprint is next week. We will be making lots of notes on the wiki and putting up samples / examples / icons etc. This stuff is moving very fast, we will do our best to provide you guys with a daily summary of what's happening. Finally, I'd like to offer an apology. I was meaning to get started on these themes earlier than this point. Hasn't happened, due to several things, namely college and a few other things. Cheers. Accepted. And thanks for the offer of rising to the challenge, you are on. Mark -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] New icons
Pascal Klein wrote: Sorry if I was somewhat blunt. I feel that the process isn't moving along as fast as I would like it to and I'm trying to stick a blame to something. Stick it on your own doorstep, then. The art team needs leadership and organisation. This is our fourth release, so there has been plenty of time for that organisation to emerge organically. In Dunedin, you and I discussed this, and you promised to step up and move things forward. "Processes" don't move forward. People make them move forward. It takes effort to create an organised environment for community work to happen. Rather than looking for a place to put blame because things have not happened exactly the way you want it to, you might consider actually making them happen. I'm being blunt. Very. I really want a strong community art team but I absolutely know it will not happen unless someone steps up to lead and organise that team. Until that point, we will have lots of missed opportunities. The door is open for anybody with savvy, energy, and leadership to step through. I think in more correct terms, I meant to say I would have liked a call for this sort of a job and it pushed (ie. "Hey Dapper really needs an icon set"). Andy Fitzsimon's was definitely on the right track, personally. That call went out two releases ago. We've provided funding to Andy, over the course of a long time, and Andy has made good progress. However, we thought it worth trying a different angle, and I'm pleased with the results. There is room for Etiquette in Ubuntu as well, and perhaps one day it can become the default. Andy cant work alone. If that's to be a community effort, again, it will take leadership to gather a team around him. The folder icons for NFS, SMB, SSH and icons of that nature, the rounded rectangular background for the text seems too similar in colour to the folder which make it hard to distinguish from the rest of the icon, especially the folder part. :) OK, good feedback that. Yes, those theme packages are definitely on the checklist. I am hoping to try to allocate a theme to a group of people, so for example 2 or 3 people could work on one theme while another group works on another theme. How does this sound? Sounds excellent. It would be great if there was a single package that could be installed which had 5 community-contributed theme candidates. We can then review them, provide feedback, and ultimately select a very few of the best ones, if they are high quality and complete, for inclusion in the distribution release. Mark -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Getting this act together
- Original Message - From: "Pascal Klein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 11:36 AM Subject: [ubuntu-art] Getting this act together Cheers to Mark's input in this regard. Dapper is less than 2 and a half months away so I think I'll comply to some of those wishes presented in Mark's recent email. Need to get stuff done. Done well, and presented well. Hello, list! I'm not a member of the art team, I just subscribed to some lists. I just wanted to say that Dapper is less than ONE month and a half away, not TWO months and a half. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Getting this act together
Cheers to Mark's input in this regard. Dapper is less than 2 and a half months away so I think I'll comply to some of those wishes presented in Mark's recent email. Need to get stuff done. Done well, and presented well. The art team is still without a team leader, given the medical treatment Aaron had to undergo. I would like to recommend an art team meeting within the week, as soon as possible to sort out some stuff. Forget the wiki and the other issues that were discussed repeatedly earlier on and let's focus on the few themed-packages that the art team could produce and possibly, given they are good, make their way into universe or mainstream. We could also do with discussing a new art team leader as well as people interested in these themed art packages, leading their production and working with other interested souls. :) So, an art team meeting. How does this weekend sound? Finally, I'd like to offer an apology. I was meaning to get started on these themes earlier than this point. Hasn't happened, due to several things, namely college and a few other things. Cheers. Kind regards, Pascal -- Pascal Klein http://wombat.nuxified.com Ubuntu Art team http://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtTeam Linux Australia http://www.linux.org.au -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] New icons
On Wed, 01 Mar 2006 17:38:41 + Mark Shuttleworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Pascal, I'm surprised to hear that from you given that we spent several > hours together at LCA in New Zealand, and discussed ways to get > community contributions directly into Dapper. > > > The goal is to get a few of the best community themes into Dapper, and > have professional artists supplement that work where necessary. I see a > partnership between community contributors and professional artists as > one of the great things about Ubuntu - the community gets its best work > showcased, and interested folks get to work with professionals where > previously they may not have been able to. Sorry if I was somewhat blunt. I feel that the process isn't moving along as fast as I would like it to and I'm trying to stick a blame to something. I think in more correct terms, I meant to say I would have liked a call for this sort of a job and it pushed (ie. "Hey Dapper really needs an icon set"). Andy Fitzsimon's was definitely on the right track, personally. > Now, as I understood it, Pascal was going to help organise the community > side of things here, so that we could identify two or three crisp, clean > community-contributed themes for inclusion in Dapper. Best I can tell, > that hasn't happened yet, so Pascal please get onto that or ask someone > else to take the reins. I suggest that you identify at most three > candidates for inclusion, based on their quality and completeness, and > focus the energy of the art team on those three to see if one or more > can get up to snuff for Dapper. > > > Getting a good theme together requires strong leadership - those of you > who think you have what it takes, organise teams around your themes and > polish them up. Make sure that there's a web site where we can review > and assess the themes. Ubuntu and Kubuntu are of course equally > important, so make sure we give equal time to the blue folks. > > We will only include themes that meet a very high standard of quality > and completeness - it wouldn't be Ubuntu if it were half done. > > We have a UI sprint in London next week (all welcome) where we will be > polishing more of the icons / desktop / theme bits. I expect Dapper to > look pretty sharp by the end of that. > > I've subscribed to this list and I'll stay monitoring it for the next > couple of week. If you want to live up to the standard of other Ubuntu > teams you need: > > - *Leadership*. Identify someone who is dedicated (this stuff takes > time) and work with Henrik to organise all the work that is to be done. > As a team, you need to know how to take decisions and then move forward > with those decisions. You won't all agree most of the time - so you need > leadership to get everyone to go in a common direction rather than > following their own artistic muses all the time. > > - *Teamwork*. If you want community-contributed themes to match up, > then you can't divide yourselves a hundred different ways. Pick a few > high quality starting points, and push hard on those to improve their > completeness. Write up good style guides for the key themes you pick, so > that new contributors can produce work that is consistent. It isn't so > much of an accomplishment to do a single beautiful desktop image as it > is to produce a complete set of icons, with GTK theme and desktop, > splash screens etc. You will ONLY achieve this with teamwork. > > - *Organisation*. There is a lot to be done, and I can't find any > obvious starting point that lists each of the areas that need work. Get > that right, and you will find new people joining in as they can see what > needs to be done. > > - *Presentation*. This is even more important in the art team than it > is elsewhere. Your stuff needs to be shown off to best effect! Don't > hide your light under a bushel, so to speak, make sure that your work > gets visibility. Your leadership should arrange an Ubuntu Art website > where the best themes get presented completely, so that people can > immerse themselves in them. > > So guys, this is a challenge. Raise your game. Make clear, good > suggestions for this new icon theme, and organise yourselves better to > produce some community contributed themes that make it into Dapper itself. The folder icons for NFS, SMB, SSH and icons of that nature, the rounded rectangular background for the text seems too similar in colour to the folder which make it hard to distinguish from the rest of the icon, especially the folder part. :) > Mark > Yes, those theme packages are definitely on the checklist. I am hoping to try to allocate a theme to a group of people, so for example 2 or 3 people could work on one theme while another group works on another theme. How does this sound? Thanks for replying to this topic Mark. Cheers. Pascal -- Pascal Klein http://wombat.nuxified.com Ubuntu Art team http://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtTeam Linux Australia http://www.linux.org.au -- ubuntu-
Re: [ubuntu-art] New icons
Pascal Klein wrote: GNOME 2.14 won't seem to feature a splash anymore, according to Tom Wood. Will Dapper still feature one? Yes, it will. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] New icons
On Wed, 1 Mar 2006 16:50:24 -0500 (EST) j Mak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I agree 100%. You need guidelines to be able to work efficiently. We don't even know what will be the color scheme of ubuntu. This would be important to learn because color is a unifying motif in the overall visual impact, and the login screen, splash, wallpapers and so on should reflect this. Also the size. Will the splash, for instance, be the same size as in Breezy? I hope someone will set up a list of parameters quickly so that we can start creating actual artworks because not that much time has left until April. Regards, J. Mak -- GNOME 2.14 won't seem to feature a splash anymore, according to Tom Wood. Will Dapper still feature one? http://swik.net/GNOME/Planet+GNOME/Thomas+Wood+(thos):+No+Splash+Screen+Contest/b4ui Cheers, Pascal -- Pascal Klein http://wombat.nuxified.com Ubuntu Art team http://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtTeam Linux Australia http://www.linux.org.au -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
