Re: [ubuntu-art] Work Theme

2009-04-27 Thread Cory K.
And note that this list or team does *not* create the default art.



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Re: [ubuntu-art] Work Theme

2009-04-27 Thread Steve Dodier
Hello and welcome on the list,

Feel free to show us your work, to design a specification for your "work"
theme idea, and even to work on it. Having a visually neutral is, I agree,
something extremely important. In fact, most of Ubuntu installs I see just
stay with the default theme, because not everyone tweaks his PC a lot.
That's why we also need the default theme to be "forgetable", while still
clearly representing Ubuntu, and, obviously, not ugly :) That's a challenge
for sure, but actual good themes are not the fancy and glossy ones, but
often, the well-thought and polished ones. I'm looking forward to see what
you have worked on and what you will work on, Alex.

Cordially, SD.

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[ubuntu-art] Work Theme

2009-04-27 Thread Alex Armstrong
There is a certain cancerous thinking that goes into designing a default
theme for an OS/distro. I've been working on various possible defaults
for Ubuntu for almost a year now, and many of them were very pleasant to
work with; but I've come to realise that while the palette (brown,
yellow, orange) is important in terms of branding, it is largely
irrelevant in terms of actual usage.

I am not speaking of the sort of user who, like myself, relishes to
customize his virtual desktop environment. I have in mind the folks who
use computers in a professional environment. 

Most places I've worked at (Caveat emptor: none of them were IT-centric)
relied on PCs with Windows XP. The default XP theme is decidedly gaudy
and, in my limited experience, the tendency was to switch to the stark
Windows 2000 look. It's not an impressive theme, by any means, but it is
unobtrusive and it gets the job done and, more importantly, allows the
user to ignore it.

Assuming a similar market for Ubuntu--and I am sure a professional
market exists, even if limited--I think there may be a need for a theme
to counterpoint the default. Something grey, dull, perhaps with a pinch
of blue or possibly not; something that gets out of your way.

I understand that this list was created to assist in the brand image of
Ubuntu. I was just wondering if there may also be a need for a "work"
theme; something that simply does not draw attention to itself.

Alex

P.S. From the tone of this e-mail, you may be able to tell that I've
been working on themes along such lines. I was wondering if they would
be an acceptable contribution to the list and to the wiki.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] SVG icons and default colour scheme

2009-04-27 Thread Daniel Scott Matthews
You can use a CSS  (Style sheet) with SVG, then you just need to
change the CSS and all files that refer to it will get the change. But
there is a few gotchas, see my post "The Zen of Color", in particular
the need to protect some "semantic color" from changes.  The CSS can
be changed via scripted transforms to the color harmony relationships
but this may require changes to gnome, or some form of script to run
when a given theme is installed and selected as active.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Artwork Wiki Page - Draft 2

2009-04-27 Thread John Baer
On Mon, 2009-04-27 at 15:40 +0100, Thorsten Wilms wrote:

> On Sun, 2009-04-26 at 21:23 -0400, John Baer wrote:
> 
> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JohnBaer/SandBox
> > 
> > Thoughts?
> 
> "Team Ambassador: Christina Kokott"?
> Did I miss something? Not that I would be opposed, I just wonder where
> the special role comes from?

LOL, see how fast that happened! :)

> 
> I'm OK with the new graphics.
> 
> "universe" should be a link that explains the term. Maybe
> http://www.ubuntu.com/community/ubuntustory/components 
> 
> "Need Help?" seems a little lost there at the side.
> 
> I wouldn't set sub-headings like "Want to check out the action to see
> what's going on?" italic, but just bold. Italic is better left for
> emphasis of a few words in paragraphs and maybe short notes like your
> "We are currently developing artwork for Karmic Koala".
> 
> "Using the list is too slow, hang with us on the IRC Channel!"
> Don't make the list bad, rather point out that IRC is more direct,
> faster ;)

Agreed ...

> 
> "Ubuntu Flavours" doesn't work well as headline there on the side.
> 

I left justified the graphics and adjusted the text formatting.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] zoom discuss

2009-04-27 Thread daniel planas armangue
 
I have finished the new version of the icon. included small resolutions



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[ubuntu-art] SVG icons and default colour scheme

2009-04-27 Thread Chris Tooley
I was browsing the icons for Breathe and something occurred to me, is
it possible to create SVGs with scripts in them? i.e. is the SVG
engine complete enough that adding some scripting, or adding a
scripting engine would be trivial?

The main reason I'm curious about this is that we could possibly
define SVGs with a default colour, then if the colour is different in
the system then we could change the colour - for instance, in the
current BreatheIconSet submissions, devices/computer has an orange
background on the screen. It looks great, and fits excellently with an
orange based theme, but what about a theme that is blue-colour based?
Wouldn't it be cool if we could just say "make this colour match (such
and such) colour defined in appearance settings"?

I suppose for colours, we wouldn't really need scripting but if we had
scripting in SVG it would open up an entire world of possibilities.

If this is well received I will put forth this suggestion on
brainstorm, if it isn't already. :)

Thanks,
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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] zoom discuss

2009-04-27 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Mon, 2009-04-27 at 19:35 +0200, daniel planas armangue wrote:

> i created a new version for zoom-out, hope you like

I think this 2nd version is better. But now the frame around the glass
seems to vary in thickness!?


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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] zoom discuss

2009-04-27 Thread daniel planas armangue
El lun, 27-04-2009 a las 18:06 +0200, Thorsten Wilms escribió:
> On Mon, 2009-04-27 at 17:55 +0200, daniel planas armangue wrote:
> 
i created a new version for zoom-out, hope you like


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[ubuntu-art] Wiki moves, Incoming/Concepts

2009-04-27 Thread Thorsten Wilms
Hi!

With Kenneth's blessing, I removed the link to
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specifications so that page is hidden
now. Should we ever have specifications with blueprints on Launchpad
that are artwork related and of interest to this community, we still
have that page and all the text at hand.

Deleted Specifications/Powder, as it was practically empty and no longer
findable there. I hope to see a real Powder in Incoming/Karmic (or
Incoming).

Moved WarningThemes to the new Incoming/Concepts. Same for
Incoming/Karmic/UserInteraction, which is now
Incoming/Concepts/Panels_and_Bars.

So all concepts that would require (noteworthy) changes to the software
stack (X, GTK, Gnome, WM ...) should go there.

If someone comes up with a better, still short name than the terrible
generic "Concepts", I'm all ears.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] zoom discuss

2009-04-27 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Mon, 2009-04-27 at 17:55 +0200, daniel planas armangue wrote:

> i created 2 version icon with your suggestions, but i like more one than
> two

I didn't mean that you should remove the "neck" between handle and
frame, although this helps on the small sizes.

What I meant is that you should keep the neck very simple.

Check your work for lines that are less than 1 pixel strong.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] zoom discuss

2009-04-27 Thread daniel planas armangue
El lun, 27-04-2009 a las 17:37 +0200, Thorsten Wilms escribió:
> I think you should make the part between handle and frame straight
> instead of curvy. This detail is just too tiny and hard to render
> well.
> 
> The handle needs a smooth gradient to look round. It shouldn't be too
> shiny.

i created 2 version icon with your suggestions, but i like more one than
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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] zoom discuss

2009-04-27 Thread Oliver Scholtz 1
Am Montag, den 27.04.2009, 17:37 +0200 schrieb Thorsten Wilms:
> On Mon, 2009-04-27 at 16:00 +0200, daniel planas armangue wrote:
> > i'm working on zoom icons, in that moment i'm working in zoom out, what
> > do you thing?
> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions
> 
> I think you should make the part between handle and frame straight
> instead of curvy. This detail is just too tiny and hard to render well.
> 
> The handle needs a smooth gradient to look round. It shouldn't be too
> shiny.
> 
> http://margotmystic.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/magnifying-glass.jpg
> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/80/Magnifying_glass.jpg
> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/98/Magnifying_glass_and_Stamp_tong.jpg
> 
> 
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> 

This will need some more workaround ... take the time you need (not
running :) ) and maybe we get a good base for the rest of these
icons. ;)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] zoom discuss

2009-04-27 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Mon, 2009-04-27 at 16:00 +0200, daniel planas armangue wrote:
> i'm working on zoom icons, in that moment i'm working in zoom out, what
> do you thing?
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions

I think you should make the part between handle and frame straight
instead of curvy. This detail is just too tiny and hard to render well.

The handle needs a smooth gradient to look round. It shouldn't be too
shiny.

http://margotmystic.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/magnifying-glass.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/80/Magnifying_glass.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/98/Magnifying_glass_and_Stamp_tong.jpg


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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] zoom discuss

2009-04-27 Thread daniel planas armangue
El lun, 27-04-2009 a las 16:50 +0200, Oliver Scholtz 1 escribió:
> Am Montag, den 27.04.2009, 16:40 +0200 schrieb daniel planas armangue:
> > El lun, 27-04-2009 a las 16:17 +0200, Oliver Scholtz 1 escribió:
> > > Am Montag, den 27.04.2009, 07:09 -0700 schrieb Smartboy:
> > > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 7:00 AM, daniel planas armangue
> > > >  wrote:
> > > > > i'm working on zoom icons, in that moment i'm working in zoom out, 
> > > > > what
> > > > > do you thing?
> > > > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
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> > > > > ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com
> > > > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
> > > > >
> > > > 

i finish zoom out icon in small sizes


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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] zoom discuss

2009-04-27 Thread Oliver Scholtz 1
Am Montag, den 27.04.2009, 16:40 +0200 schrieb daniel planas armangue:
> El lun, 27-04-2009 a las 16:17 +0200, Oliver Scholtz 1 escribió:
> > Am Montag, den 27.04.2009, 07:09 -0700 schrieb Smartboy:
> > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 7:00 AM, daniel planas armangue
> > >  wrote:
> > > > i'm working on zoom icons, in that moment i'm working in zoom out, what
> > > > do you thing?
> > > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
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> > > > ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com
> > > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
> > > >
> > > 
> > > The edges need some antialiasing. Right now they look a bit jagged.
> > > 
> > > Smartboy
> > > 
> > 
> > Antialiasing? I think not. But the blue glass was made a bit to quick.
> > Here are some corrections for doing... ;)
> > 
> > Oliver
> > 
> > i modify a bit glass, what do you think now?
> > 

For me it's very well. But wait (stand-by) for some feedbacks more
before continueing with your work. ;)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] zoom discuss

2009-04-27 Thread daniel planas armangue
El lun, 27-04-2009 a las 16:17 +0200, Oliver Scholtz 1 escribió:
> Am Montag, den 27.04.2009, 07:09 -0700 schrieb Smartboy:
> > On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 7:00 AM, daniel planas armangue
> >  wrote:
> > > i'm working on zoom icons, in that moment i'm working in zoom out, what
> > > do you thing?
> > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions
> > >
> > >
> > > --
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> > > ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com
> > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
> > >
> > 
> > The edges need some antialiasing. Right now they look a bit jagged.
> > 
> > Smartboy
> > 
> 
> Antialiasing? I think not. But the blue glass was made a bit to quick.
> Here are some corrections for doing... ;)
> 
> Oliver
> 
> i modify a bit glass, what do you think now?
> 


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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] zoom discuss

2009-04-27 Thread daniel planas armangue
El lun, 27-04-2009 a las 16:17 +0200, Oliver Scholtz 1 escribió:
> ntialiasing? I think not. But the blue glass was made a bit to quick.
> Here are some corrections for doing... ;)
> 
> Oliver

for the blu glass, first, i made with circles fades, but the render was
problematic, with the gardient colors is better, but the glass efect is
lower so real 


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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] zoom discuss

2009-04-27 Thread daniel planas armangue
El lun, 27-04-2009 a las 16:11 +0200, Oliver Scholtz 1 escribió:
> nice. Correct the light-blue curve above...
> 
> go-top ... here I miss the svg-submission. ;-)
> 
> Oliver
> 
add svg and modify


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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] zoom discuss

2009-04-27 Thread Oliver Scholtz 1
Am Montag, den 27.04.2009, 07:09 -0700 schrieb Smartboy:
> On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 7:00 AM, daniel planas armangue
>  wrote:
> > i'm working on zoom icons, in that moment i'm working in zoom out, what
> > do you thing?
> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions
> >
> >
> > --
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> > ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com
> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
> >
> 
> The edges need some antialiasing. Right now they look a bit jagged.
> 
> Smartboy
> 

Antialiasing? I think not. But the blue glass was made a bit to quick.
Here are some corrections for doing... ;)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] zoom discuss

2009-04-27 Thread Oliver Scholtz 1
Am Montag, den 27.04.2009, 16:00 +0200 schrieb daniel planas armangue:
> i'm working on zoom icons, in that moment i'm working in zoom out, what
> do you thing?
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions
> 
> 

nice. Correct the light-blue curve above...

go-top ... here I miss the svg-submission. ;-)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] zoom discuss

2009-04-27 Thread Smartboy
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 7:00 AM, daniel planas armangue
 wrote:
> i'm working on zoom icons, in that moment i'm working in zoom out, what
> do you thing?
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions
>
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The edges need some antialiasing. Right now they look a bit jagged.

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[ubuntu-art] [Breathe] zoom discuss

2009-04-27 Thread daniel planas armangue
i'm working on zoom icons, in that moment i'm working in zoom out, what
do you thing?
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions


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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe]folder bugs

2009-04-27 Thread Boudhayan Gupta
Its full of Zero-byte files

Boudhayan Gupta

>On Sun, 2009-04-26 at 23:09 +0200, daniel planas armangue wrote:
> > El dom, 26-04-2009 a las 16:38 -0400, James Schriver escribió:
> > On Sun, 2009-04-26 at 22:22 +0200, daniel planas armangue wrote:
> > > some folder icons don't run
> > > 
> > > look photo
> > 
> > Daniel,
> > 
> > Good here.  
> > 
> > Did you build the package from source or just copy the Breathe 
> > folder to /usr/share/icons ?
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > dashua
> > 
> 
> 
> just copy
> > 
> 
> 
> Try this package.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe]preferences-desktop-screensaver

2009-04-27 Thread Oliver Scholtz 1
Am Montag, den 27.04.2009, 15:01 +0200 schrieb daniel planas armangue:
> i erase my icon becose i think oliver's  is better than me,
> congratulations =)
> 
ahh pffhh... it was nothing. :D



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[ubuntu-art] [Breathe]preferences-desktop-screensaver

2009-04-27 Thread daniel planas armangue
i erase my icon becose i think oliver's  is better than me,
congratulations =)


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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe]folder bugs

2009-04-27 Thread daniel planas armangue
El dom, 26-04-2009 a las 17:28 -0400, James Schriver escribió:
> On Sun, 2009-04-26 at 23:09 +0200, daniel planas armangue wrote:
> > El dom, 26-04-2009 a las 16:38 -0400, James Schriver escribió:
> > > On Sun, 2009-04-26 at 22:22 +0200, daniel planas armangue wrote:

> > 
> Try this package.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Artwork Wiki Page - Draft 2

2009-04-27 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Sun, 2009-04-26 at 21:23 -0400, John Baer wrote:

> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JohnBaer/SandBox
> 
> Thoughts?

"Team Ambassador: Christina Kokott"?
Did I miss something? Not that I would be opposed, I just wonder where
the special role comes from?

I'm OK with the new graphics.

"universe" should be a link that explains the term. Maybe
http://www.ubuntu.com/community/ubuntustory/components 

"Need Help?" seems a little lost there at the side.

I wouldn't set sub-headings like "Want to check out the action to see
what's going on?" italic, but just bold. Italic is better left for
emphasis of a few words in paragraphs and maybe short notes like your
"We are currently developing artwork for Karmic Koala".

"Using the list is too slow, hang with us on the IRC Channel!"
Don't make the list bad, rather point out that IRC is more direct,
faster ;)

"Ubuntu Flavours" doesn't work well as headline there on the side.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Incoming Artwork page

2009-04-27 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Sun, 2009-04-26 at 14:50 -0700, blindskull13 wrote:

> ok, thanks, i made an image that could be a logo for the main incoming 
> page (
> 
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming
> 
> )
> its just a thought, because, seriously the website is way to bland

Maybe the wiki is bland, but I think that's preferably to adding
not-well-thought-out images of varying styles now and then.

To do good job of adding illustrations would require to develop a
consistent style and some rule on where to add images and where not.


Regarding the attached image: It is not a logo, it's a collection of ...
things.

Repeating Ubuntu is likely not a good idea, but if it is done, the
proper logotype should be used and not a generic and entirely unfitting
font.

I see the CoF and an arrow that looks like it has to avoid an invisible
obstacle. With a little goodwill, one might read that to mean something
is coming from the community. Then I see a screen and what must a PC
tower. Nothing in there says artwork or design to me.


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