Re: [ubuntu-art] new folder

2009-06-01 Thread Saleel Velankar
Steve Dodier wrote:
> Hello,
>
> To me, the low resolution icons look blur. And the big one, with the 
> weird curves, looks like the folder has been stained. Also, there is a 
> quite bizarre shadow inside the folder, which can't exist with such a 
> front light.
>
> By the way, do you have an SVG version of your icons ?
I have to second this all the los res icon look blurred

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Re: [ubuntu-art] setting up a meeting

2009-06-01 Thread Saleel Velankar
Kenneth Wimer wrote:
>  * whatever else comes to mind :)
>
>
> So who would take part?
You have my bow.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] setting up a meeting

2009-06-01 Thread Adrien Pilleboue
Me too
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Re: [ubuntu-art] setting up a meeting

2009-06-01 Thread Anton Kerezov
On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 8:05 PM, spg76  wrote:

> I would, depending on the time.
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Me too. It would be good to be in the upcoming holiday in order for us to
have more free time.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Network Manager-icons

2009-06-01 Thread mac_v
Kenneth Wimer wrote:
> On Sunday 31 May 2009 19:52:50 Cory K. wrote:
>> Along with the aesthetic aspect of this, someone needs to see where the
>> panel and OSD icons cross each other. If at all.
>>
>> If it's not done before I get to it, I'll go after it this week.
> 
> 
> For Ubuntu and the theme it sets as default, the notification icons
> should be differently styled versions of the same metaphors used in the
> panel. Other themes are free to do as they please but in order to
> integrate well with the overall Ubuntu desktop a theme should think
> twice about doing anything radically different. Naturally Ubuntu is
> always trying to improve so if something comes along which is different
> but better than what we currently use we would certainly entertain the idea.
> 
> 
> The notification icons shown in notify-osd on a default ubuntu install
> were designed by Canonical to integrate with the style of the notify-osd
> bubble on which it is displayed and have a very distinct design. Because
> the icons in notify-osd are designed specifically for the bubbles the
> only parts which should be re-used elsewhere is the form. IE we are not
> suggesting that anyone make a entire theme of icons based on the
> notify-osd design :) The panel placement and size require a different
> design than large semi-transparent icons on semi-transparent background
> with gaussian blurred shadows ;)
> 
> 
> --
> Kenneth
> 
Hi, just put together a icon set in greyscale, its still rough work ...

i'v attached the rendered icon on a light and dark background.
what do u think of the design concept?

cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-art] setting up a meeting

2009-06-01 Thread spg76
I would, depending on the time.
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Re: [ubuntu-art] setting up a meeting

2009-06-01 Thread mac_v
Steve Dodier wrote:
> Me, me, me ! I love hiding on the corner during meetings :p
> 
+1 at the corner

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Re: [ubuntu-art] setting up a meeting

2009-06-01 Thread John Baer
On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Kenneth Wimer wrote:

>
> Hi all,
>
> Who would be interested in having an irc meeting to discuss current and
> future
> community related design issues?
>
> +1 Great idea!
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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Network Manager-icons

2009-06-01 Thread mac_v
Kenneth Wimer wrote:
> On Sunday 31 May 2009 19:52:50 Cory K. wrote:
>> Along with the aesthetic aspect of this, someone needs to see where the
>> panel and OSD icons cross each other. If at all.
>>
>> If it's not done before I get to it, I'll go after it this week.
> 
> 
> For Ubuntu and the theme it sets as default, the notification icons
> should be differently styled versions of the same metaphors used in the
> panel. Other themes are free to do as they please but in order to
> integrate well with the overall Ubuntu desktop a theme should think
> twice about doing anything radically different. Naturally Ubuntu is
> always trying to improve so if something comes along which is different
> but better than what we currently use we would certainly entertain the idea.
> 
> 
> The notification icons shown in notify-osd on a default ubuntu install
> were designed by Canonical to integrate with the style of the notify-osd
> bubble on which it is displayed and have a very distinct design. Because
> the icons in notify-osd are designed specifically for the bubbles the
> only parts which should be re-used elsewhere is the form. IE we are not
> suggesting that anyone make a entire theme of icons based on the
> notify-osd design :) The panel placement and size require a different
> design than large semi-transparent icons on semi-transparent background
> with gaussian blurred shadows ;)
> 
> 
> --
> Kenneth
> 
hi,
taking note of the future of the ubuntu-desktop and the discussion we
had on the irc , i understand the points u have made...

just for everyone else here, a recap:
Kwwii has said that the ubuntu team was looking to *not* use any colors
for icons in the panel.

but the problem with this usage, with the greyscale version of hi-color
bar type icons, is that if the colors are not used then the wireless
icons would look almost exactly similar to the wireless icon used in
Windows7.

I'm hoping to prevent this similarity and try to create a greyscale
version with curves similar to the one i'v already created. not the same
 , it will need more modification if it has to be displayed properly in
all panels as greyscale. and if i succeed in making one then we could
create similar look for the breathe notify-osd icons.

But since this discussion is more towards the icons in the breathe icon
set , *Cory* what do u think? greyscale or use these present color icons
for breathe?

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Re: [ubuntu-art] setting up a meeting

2009-06-01 Thread Andrew SB
On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Kenneth Wimer  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Who would be interested in having an irc meeting to discuss current and
> future community related design issues?

Count me in

> Issues which come to mind are:

It would also be nice to have some further conversation on the team's
"governance," for lack of a better word. Artwork Team Council? Changes
to the Launchpad team, ect...

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Re: [ubuntu-art] setting up a meeting

2009-06-01 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 17:46 +0200, Kenneth Wimer wrote:

> So who would take part?

I might, if the time's right.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] setting up a meeting

2009-06-01 Thread daniel planas armangue
i would,there is much work to do! ;)
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Re: [ubuntu-art] new folder

2009-06-01 Thread Steve Dodier
Hello,

To me, the low resolution icons look blur. And the big one, with the weird
curves, looks like the folder has been stained. Also, there is a quite
bizarre shadow inside the folder, which can't exist with such a front light.

By the way, do you have an SVG version of your icons ?
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Re: [ubuntu-art] setting up a meeting

2009-06-01 Thread Steve Dodier
Me, me, me ! I love hiding on the corner during meetings :p
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Re: [ubuntu-art] setting up a meeting

2009-06-01 Thread Andrew
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[ubuntu-art] setting up a meeting

2009-06-01 Thread Kenneth Wimer
Hi all,

Who would be interested in having an irc meeting to discuss current and future 
community related design issues?

Issues which come to mind are:

 * breathe

 * wallpaper competition: getting the word out, coordinating the effort 
properly, free culture showcase, etc.

 * various issues around karmic

 * human icon inventory/cleanup

 * community and extra themes for Karmic

 * continuing to improve the wiki

 * whatever else comes to mind :)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Network Manager-icons

2009-06-01 Thread Kenneth Wimer
On Sunday 31 May 2009 19:52:50 Cory K. wrote:
> Along with the aesthetic aspect of this, someone needs to see where the
> panel and OSD icons cross each other. If at all.
>
> If it's not done before I get to it, I'll go after it this week.

For Ubuntu and the theme it sets as default, the notification icons should be 
differently styled versions of the same metaphors used in the panel. Other 
themes are free to do as they please but in order to integrate well with the 
overall Ubuntu desktop a theme should think twice about doing anything 
radically different. Naturally Ubuntu is always trying to improve so if 
something comes along which is different but better than what we currently use 
we would certainly entertain the idea.

The notification icons shown in notify-osd on a default ubuntu install were 
designed by Canonical to integrate with the style of the notify-osd bubble on 
which it is displayed and have a very distinct design. Because the icons in 
notify-osd are designed specifically for the bubbles the only parts which 
should be re-used elsewhere is the form. IE we are not suggesting that anyone 
make a entire theme of icons based on the notify-osd design :) The panel 
placement and size require a different design than large semi-transparent icons 
on semi-transparent background with gaussian blurred shadows ;)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] new folder

2009-06-01 Thread rigobot

thank you for your reply and advice


Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:
> 
> Can you make some smaller pictures? cause sometimes scaled down versions
> don't look as good as expected.
> 

i post the icon in various resolution, for 24 and smaller resolution it's
better do a smaller version.
http://www.nabble.com/file/p23816582/Immagine.jpg 


Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:
> 
> Also from perspective point of you (i'm
> not artists) don't the left and right side should be a little bit
> curved outwards? Maybe it's just me but it doesn't quite look
> realistic.
> 

i will work on it.

alvise


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Re: [ubuntu-art] new folder

2009-06-01 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
2009/6/1 rigobot :
>
> personally i don't like the restyiling done for the folder icon; so i tryed
> to do something similar but less "strong" (i don't find other word...)...
> it's only a try, i don't pretend to change anything, tell me what you think.
>
> alvise
>
> http://www.nabble.com/file/p23814866/rect9406.png rect9406.png

Looks nice. Too me in feels like it's missing a bunch of papers inside
it cause it is so wide open. Also from perspective point of you (i'm
not artists) don't the left and right side should be a little bit
curved outwards? Maybe it's just me but it doesn't quite look
realistic.

I prefer the left one. Can you make some smaller pictures? cause
sometimes scaled down versions don't look as good as expected.

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[ubuntu-art] new folder

2009-06-01 Thread rigobot

personally i don't like the restyiling done for the folder icon; so i tryed
to do something similar but less "strong" (i don't find other word...)...
it's only a try, i don't pretend to change anything, tell me what you think.

alvise

http://www.nabble.com/file/p23814866/rect9406.png rect9406.png 
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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Network Manager-icons

2009-06-01 Thread mac_v
Kenneth Wimer wrote:
> 
> 
> I think that realisitically, you need to show the 16x16 and 22x22
> versions on a light grey and a dark background to show how they will
> look on a panel.
> 
> 
> --
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> 

hi,
i'v added the screenshots of the icons in action on white and dark panel
in the previous mail...[didnt want to reattach and create duplicates]
... the panel is a 19px vertical panel

are those enough or do u want a rendered version for all the icons in
the light and dark backgrounds ?

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Network Manager-icons

2009-06-01 Thread Kenneth Wimer
On Sunday 31 May 2009 19:52:50 Cory K. wrote:
> Along with the aesthetic aspect of this, someone needs to see where the
> panel and OSD icons cross each other. If at all.

Anything that shows up in a notification is an OSD icon. Note that Canonical 
has defined the style for the OSD icons quite specificialy. This style is only 
to be used for the official canonical notify-osd look. You are free to include 
any other style in your own and other themes.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Network Manager-icons

2009-06-01 Thread Kenneth Wimer
On Sunday 31 May 2009 16:23:58 mac_v wrote:
> daniel planas armangue wrote:
> > much better ;)
> >
> > DanielP
>
> thankx for the feedback,
>
>  Cory felt the same way too , but he said that he wants *kwwii* (since
> he's done like icon) or *Sebastien* to chime in on the mailing list. so
> that they could approve/modify/improve the icons before thinking about
> using them in breathe...

I think that realisitically, you need to show the 16x16 and 22x22 versions on 
a light grey and a dark background to show how they will look on a panel.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Network Manager-icons

2009-06-01 Thread mac_v
@Oliver...
Actually the paleness is lost when the present icon scales down to 24px... 
but i tried ur idea.
and i'v attached the screenshots of the icon in action on a 19px panel... oh 
and the panel is vertical on the right just to get u oriented.

i think that the presence of the gradients adds the minor feel of lighting, 
also if the colors get a bit more darker then the visibility of the icon in 
dark/transparent panels becomes tough. especially in the transparent panels , 
where the backgrounds vary . 

cheers,
mac_v

attachments legend:
gradient-is the present icon
darker-is with a bit darker shade and no gradients
panel-is the present icon on a transparent panel.






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And Mac ... much better! Maybe 22 and 16 without pale. ;)

Oliver


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