Re: [ubuntu-art] Breathe PPA
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Cory K. wrote: > So what's your next move? Do you wanna try to go for a 0.44 upload to > REVU or does kwwii wanna take this on? (as we've chatted before about > it. just had to give him the go. GO!) :P Well, there's some work that probably needs to get done before it will get accepted. * License Review: - COPYING (and debian/copyright) claim CC-BY-SA-3.0 while svg metadata says CC-BY-NC-SA-3.0 - Which is right? - Are NC license "non-free"? - Jakub Steiner listed in svg metadata, but not AUTHORS (and debian/copyright) - Oxygen team is in AUTHORS but not debian/copyright. I know in Debian, even though they now accept CC-3.0, NC is considered "non-free." I can't seem to find a clear statement on whether it's acceptable in Ubuntu Universe, but my feeling is that it is not. >From the Debian Free Software Guidlines FAQ: (http://people.debian.org/~bap/dfsg-faq.html) "Q: Can I say "You must not use the program for commercial purposes"? A: This is non-free. We want businesses to be able to use Debian for their computing needs. A business should be able to use any program in Debian without checking its license." Anyone seen a definitive Ubuntu policy statement on this? Again, my inclination is that the license is "non-free." If someone wanted to roll a commercial Ubuntu derivative, in theory they should be able to redistribute anything in Universe with no problem. I'm also still a bit unclear on if there are any actual Oxygen bits in there. Is it safe to add a note to AUTHORS saying that it's simply inspired by Oxygen, does the Oxygen team hold the copyright on anything in the theme? * Native package or not? - I think that it shouldn't be a native package. + Pros and Cons: - In a native package, the versioning of the source package and the debian package are identical. This gets problematic when doing things like making a packaging bug fix upload to Ubuntu only. The version number will be bumped, even though there hasn't actually been an upstream release and the only changes are in the debian dir. - Would mean making a tarball release along with the drag-and-drop release. - Most Ubuntu artwork packages are native packages, but while Breathe is designed with Ubuntu in mind there's nothing stopping other distros from shipping it. Either way, it's not really a big deal. I just think that it shouldn't technically be a native package. (To the uninitiated, simply should the Ubuntu version be 0.44 or 0.44-0ubuntu1) * Other trivial bits (ie not very important, but worth fixing). - Since Ken changed the build system, the INSTALL file doesn't actually apply anymore - NEWS and README are empty files (remove or write something?) - No upstream changelog (running the following before releasing will create a GNU style changelog based on the bzr commits: "bzr log -v --gnu-changelog > ChangeLog") Do we care or need it? - Ubuntu packages should close a needs-packaging bug on initial upload The licensing bit is really the most important part. I wouldn't ACK a someone else's package on review as it is now. - Andrew -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] New Boot Experience in Karmic
> I think that what we are looking for is something fluid yet solid and > complete. No flickering, no jumping...simple movements which show the flow > of the river, so to speak ;) Speaking of the flow, do we know yet if there will be a black screen between usplash and GDM? Or will it be magically instantaneous, or a cross fade like Plymouth does? If it's a cross-fade, it needs to make sense for the animation to stop animating for the crossfade, which is where Fedora 10's Solar animation stumbled and where Fedora 11's simpler one does really well. If it's a black screen, then I guess non-black backgrounds would need to be a bit cleverer. (I suggest fading out to full black at the end, if it's technically feasible). I like these for different reasons, but I think they generally feel harsh with the fancy colours and the huge razor-sharp logo against a solid background (and no, I am certainly not suggesting a crazy complex background). I really love Daniel's submission since it has nice, fancy graphics but isn't unnecessarily loud about it. That makes sense, since the boot process isn't meant to be loud; the visual feedback should really just exist to say "something is happening." If some important text appears, let's say "taking up precious time by fschking /dev/sda4 when you really need to boot quickly," that text immediately has centre stage. On the other hand, a giant floating orb that spans an entire screen (think 24" screens, just as a horrifying example) carries a rather different message: "SOMETHING IS HAPPENING AND I NEED YOU TO STARE AT THIS GLOWING RED RING." Different strokes for different folks, of course, so kudos to the doers. If I have time after this crazy translation stuff, I'll see about adding another mockup to that pot :) Dylan -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] New Boot Experience in Karmic
On Tuesday 30 June 2009 00:36:00 Jonathan Blackhall wrote: > On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 1:52 PM, spg76 wrote: > > I don't know if I have to announce it here but I made an animation for > > the boot and upload it to the wiki. > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Boot#spg76%27s%20boot > > I think that looks really good. Simple, but not too simple, quick (since > we won't have too long to look at it!) and the fading works. I think that what we are looking for is something fluid yet solid and complete. No flickering, no jumping...simple movements which show the flow of the river, so to speak ;) -- Kenneth -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] New Boot Experience in Karmic
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Jonathan Blackhall wrote: > On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 1:52 PM, spg76 wrote: >> >> I don't know if I have to announce it here but I made an animation for the >> boot and upload it to the wiki. >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Boot#spg76%27s%20boot > > I think that looks really good. Simple, but not too simple, quick (since we > won't have too long to look at it!) and the fading works. > > -- > ubuntu-art mailing list > ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > > What would it look like without the outer glow effect? I'm just thinking that a straight ubuntu logo might be more clean looking? -Chris -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] New Boot Experience in Karmic
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 1:52 PM, spg76 wrote: > I don't know if I have to announce it here but I made an animation for the > boot and upload it to the wiki. > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Boot#spg76%27s%20boot > I think that looks really good. Simple, but not too simple, quick (since we won't have too long to look at it!) and the fading works. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Breathe PPA
Andrew SB wrote: > I'm pleased to let people know that the Breathe PPA is now building > packages for the current bzr revision. I'll be updating the PPA at > least once per week as long as something interesting has been done in > trunk. Remember, as the PPA's description says, this is a testing > repo. So while I'll make every effort to avoid breakage, it is > publishing snapshots of current development not official releases. > > Hopefully, this will make it easier for those of you following > Breathe's development. > > https://edge.launchpad.net/~breathe-dev/+archive/ppa Great Andrew. Well done. I would say building every other week would be better as I tend to let a weekend go by to let things build up before I make major uploads. So what's your next move? Do you wanna try to go for a 0.44 upload to REVU or does kwwii wanna take this on? (as we've chatted before about it. just had to give him the go. GO!) :P -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] New Boot Experience in Karmic
I don't know if I have to announce it here but I made an animation for the boot and upload it to the wiki. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Boot#spg76%27s%20boot -- Seba (AKA spg76) http://www.ubuntu-ar.org -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] [Boot] Edited
I have edited a bit the boot page so that the comments are associated with each submission and reordered one submission because it was inserted in the middle. Thus people might miss it so please add new contributions to the end of the page. Anton -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] xdg folders
Micha Reischuck wrote: > spg76 wrote: >> OT: I made some xdg folders based on Andrew's folder. >> http://files.getdropbox.com/u/113489/folders.png > > I made some as well, some days ago ;) > https://files.getdropbox.com/u/1429945/xdg.png > just my 2 cents. > michote Both look good :) Cheers, mac_v -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] mimetypes
spg76 wrote: > > > Why a 3D graphic can't be print on a paper? :) > -- ;p -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Breathe PPA
Nice! Thanks. It looks great // rancor 2009/6/29 Andrew SB : > Hi all, > > I'm pleased to let people know that the Breathe PPA is now building > packages for the current bzr revision. I'll be updating the PPA at > least once per week as long as something interesting has been done in > trunk. Remember, as the PPA's description says, this is a testing > repo. So while I'll make every effort to avoid breakage, it is > publishing snapshots of current development not official releases. > > Hopefully, this will make it easier for those of you following > Breathe's development. > > https://edge.launchpad.net/~breathe-dev/+archive/ppa > > - Andrew Starr-Bochicchio > > -- > ubuntu-art mailing list > ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe]daniel's camera-video (workin progress)
El lun, 29-06-2009 a las 12:12 -0300, spg76 escribió: > I really like it. > The 128px looks fantastic but 48px and down I don't like how the > display looks. Maybe you can use the close display there too. > > > I like the pendrive too but I think it doesn't look very common :) > > You know we could make dozens of devices icons based on the > FreeDesktop specification > ( > http://standards.freedesktop.org/icon-naming-spec/icon-naming-spec-latest.html > )? So it's not this instead of the other, we could include both. > I mean, we'll include a default icon but we could include different > models too. > That being said, we should try finished the set and then think about > this things. If you look at my video camera is not in any particular model, if this was inspired by a real camera but it is the mark BREATHE, seems that the pendrive. The decision to use the camera opened in small sizes is because the letters do not fade, and facilitate understanding of the visual icon. Daniel.P -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Breathe PPA
Hi all, I'm pleased to let people know that the Breathe PPA is now building packages for the current bzr revision. I'll be updating the PPA at least once per week as long as something interesting has been done in trunk. Remember, as the PPA's description says, this is a testing repo. So while I'll make every effort to avoid breakage, it is publishing snapshots of current development not official releases. Hopefully, this will make it easier for those of you following Breathe's development. https://edge.launchpad.net/~breathe-dev/+archive/ppa - Andrew Starr-Bochicchio -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] xdg folders
Very nice -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe]daniel's camera-video (workin progress)
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 2:28 PM, daniel planas armangue < daniplana...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Although Sebastian has completed all the devices, which some believe > could be improved, I am working on a new video camera, can see it in the > wiki. > > hope you like I really like it. The 128px looks fantastic but 48px and down I don't like how the display looks. Maybe you can use the close display there too. I like the pendrive too but I think it doesn't look very common :) You know we could make dozens of devices icons based on the FreeDesktop specification ( http://standards.freedesktop.org/icon-naming-spec/icon-naming-spec-latest.html)? So it's not this instead of the other, we could include both. I mean, we'll include a default icon but we could include different models too. That being said, we should try finished the set and then think about this things. -- Seba (AKA spg76) http://www.ubuntu-ar.org -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] xdg folders
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 spg76 wrote: > OT: I made some xdg folders based on Andrew's folder. > http://files.getdropbox.com/u/113489/folders.png I made some as well, some days ago ;) https://files.getdropbox.com/u/1429945/xdg.png just my 2 cents. michote -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkpI2d8ACgkQhuUNxRKrgRIJdQCdGSGtUzD8DKZgiQnmbh6Kcwz+ OAAAmwcDbkeLAc6xKt6ehKXlQjqskMMH =Sw/E -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] mimetypes
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:34 AM, Cory K. wrote: > mac_v wrote: > > spg76 wrote: > > > >> I uploaded to the wiki new icons for mimetypes. It's basically a common > >> page (not dog-eared) > >> The gradient and the shadows might need some work but I want to show you > >> how it looks. > >> > >> I'll try to make different versions this week if I have the time. > >> > > Hi, > > Cory wanted a different base for the mime types, he didnt want to use a > > rectangle sheet of paper. > > > > True as I want to try to have a little style here. But, in the interest > of moving things along I will say with 32px and below we go with the > flat sheet. So the sake of simplicity. > I just want to make it as simple as possible. I could try another perspective and adding other details but I don't think it's a such good idea. > > > Also not using the paper for audio,video, look better. > > The audio-x-generic icon without the paper would look better. > > > > Actually my thought for all files would be to use the sheet. But I'm not > hard set. I'm also think that all files should use the paper sheet except maybe some files like packages. On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 4:45 AM, Nicolò Chieffo wrote: > If I can add my 2 cents, even if I'm not an artist: > > 1) mimetype icons could rely on emblems, to have a common look, so as > long as you draw mimetypes, you can also draw emblems > 2) if my first proposal is accepted, you can't draw orange emblems > since they can be put inside folders, which are already orange > 3) the same icons can be also used to draw the xdg folder icons, > simply pasting the emblem in the middle of the folder icon, or inside > it > > Do you think I'm wrong? I don't think I understand your idea :P Could you make a graphical explanation? OT: I made some xdg folders based on Andrew's folder. http://files.getdropbox.com/u/113489/folders.png On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 10:25 AM, mac_v wrote: > daniel planas armangue wrote: > > Personally I like the mimetypes icons you've made sebastian, however the > > shadow of the image should not be on paper. > > > > it'n only my opinion but it's suposed to be the image its paste on the > > paper background, not the 3d picture. > > > > You have a very good point. > > But then the icon wouldnt look good :( > It would become too simple. Since already the paper is flat. > > That is why *staying away from the paper* [as much as possible] would be > better , *so that icon could have a better design* . > Why a 3D graphic can't be print on a paper? :) -- Seba (AKA spg76) http://www.ubuntu-ar.org -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] mimetypes
Cory K. wrote: > True as I want to try to have a little style here. But, in the interest > of moving things along I will say with 32px and below we go with the > flat sheet. So the sake of simplicity. > Maybe even 32px could use some style too, since it is going to be the most frequently used icon size. >> Also not using the paper for audio,video, look better. >> The audio-x-generic icon without the paper would look better. >> > > Actually my thought for all files would be to use the sheet. But I'm not > hard set. > See Daniel's comment , He makes a very good point. daniel planas armangue wrote: > Personally I like the mimetypes icons you've made sebastian, however the > shadow of the image should not be on paper. > > it'n only my opinion but it's suposed to be the image its paste on the > paper background, not the 3d picture. > You have a very good point. But then the icon wouldnt look good :( It would become too simple. Since already the paper is flat. That is why *staying away from the paper* [as much as possible] would be better , *so that icon could have a better design* . Cheers, mac_v -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] mimetypes
El dom, 28-06-2009 a las 21:03 -0300, spg76 escribió: > I uploaded to the wiki new icons for mimetypes. It's basically a > common page (not dog-eared) > The gradient and the shadows might need some work but I want to show > you how it looks. > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions#Mimetypes > I also made some screenshots in different zoom views in Nautilus. > http://files.getdropbox.com/u/113489/Pantallazo.png > http://files.getdropbox.com/u/113489/Pantallazo-1.png > http://files.getdropbox.com/u/113489/Pantallazo-2.png > http://files.getdropbox.com/u/113489/Pantallazo-3.png > > I'll try to make different versions this week if I have the time. > -- > Seba (AKA spg76) > http://www.ubuntu-ar.org Personally I like the mimetypes icons you've made sebastian, however the shadow of the image should not be on paper. it'n only my opinion but it's suposed to be the image its paste on the paper background, not the 3d picture. (i'm not sure that i expressed correctly, i hope you understand) in the other hand, I would like to know what your view of the new icons of camera-video and usb drive. Daniel.P -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] mimetypes
mac_v wrote: > spg76 wrote: > >> I uploaded to the wiki new icons for mimetypes. It's basically a common >> page (not dog-eared) >> The gradient and the shadows might need some work but I want to show you >> how it looks. >> >> I'll try to make different versions this week if I have the time. >> > Hi, > Cory wanted a different base for the mime types, he didnt want to use a > rectangle sheet of paper. > True as I want to try to have a little style here. But, in the interest of moving things along I will say with 32px and below we go with the flat sheet. So the sake of simplicity. > Also not using the paper for audio,video, look better. > The audio-x-generic icon without the paper would look better. > Actually my thought for all files would be to use the sheet. But I'm not hard set. > The background paper used only for pdf,docx,... would be better. > > I'll put more thought into this later with another reply. 4:30am here and I'm off to work. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] mimetypes
If I can add my 2 cents, even if I'm not an artist: 1) mimetype icons could rely on emblems, to have a common look, so as long as you draw mimetypes, you can also draw emblems 2) if my first proposal is accepted, you can't draw orange emblems since they can be put inside folders, which are already orange 3) the same icons can be also used to draw the xdg folder icons, simply pasting the emblem in the middle of the folder icon, or inside it Do you think I'm wrong? -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
