Re: [ubuntu-art] Title Page Design on the Planet
If I may offer some comments.. :) perhaps constructive, perhaps not. I am not a layout specialist :D I think a combination of the icons from (c) and the layout of (b) would work the best. The missing "computer" icon might take away from the end user that this is a computer manual, although there is a mouse pointer - which I originally thought wasn't needed, but I agree that it conveys the idea of "computer" to the user. I would also like to say that I think the icons in (b) should be spaced so they are justified with the dot grid, because when they aren't it competes with the left margin. The layout of the icons in (a) works because there is no dot grid, but with the dots, it implies to me that there is two sections of the title page, the left margin and the right with graphics - thus when the icons are not the same width, it breaks up this duality. I like the drop-cap style with the ubuntu logo as well - it brings your attention to the very recognizable logo. Basically, I think what I'm saying is, keep the drop caps CoF and layout from (b), and add all the icons from (c), perhaps justifying them with the dots grid. Thanks for listening :) -Chris -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Title Page Design on the Planet
On Mon, 2010-03-15 at 16:31 +0100, Gilles Coulais wrote: > 2010/3/13 Thorsten Wilms : > > Hi! > > > > I decided to show the next round of the Ubuntu Manual title page design > > to a wider audience, so please have a look at: > > http://thorwil.wordpress.com/2010/03/13/ubuntu-manual-title-page/ > > Hi Thorsten, all > > My personal point of view : > >From all of your proposals, c is definitely the one I prefer, because > it looks more simple, and may have a better impact on new users of > ubuntu (ok, not so helpful so far ;) ). > > Some comments on it : > - I'm not sure about the mouse pointer on the Ubuntu logo. It's not > specific to version c, but from my point of view, the logo without the > pointer would be better. the pointer suggest that the logo is a > button. But as the button is the logo, you can't change it, and > finally can't really suggest it actually is a button. I think I > understand your idea (Do you suggest something like : "Ubuntu, just > click and run ?") Besides the obvious title and author, there are 2 things the title page should get across: To pretty much everyone that this document has to do with computers. That's the reason for the pointer, but also the computer icon. For our audience, there should be a hint at the content. This should also work as motivation (answer to "why should I read this?"). The job of the icons. I considered mere words instead, but that would have a bit clunky. I really don't see a problem with the logo/button combination. The important part are the inner shapes and I don't mess with those. Though the last variant from http://thorwil.wordpress.com/2010/03/15/ubuntu-title-page-2/ does away with the pointer for symmetry. > I'm not very fond of the dots version. But maybe I didn't get what > byou wanted to express. The dots seem to be polarizing. This element comes from the new Ubuntu identity. I think it emphasizes the technical character, precision and engineering. In this sense it goes well with parts of our Manual message (solid, secure, capable ...). It does however have the potential to work against the friendly aspect of our tone and stands in contrast to the organic feel of our font choice. Within the Ubuntu identity, I think the dots are actually meant to point in the engineer and corporate direction, away from consumer/end-user. Luckily our audience will not be aware of this :) Thank you, Gilles! -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Jersey
Thanks, Thorsten. Nice t-shirt, but you're right, it's not the one I'm referring to. The design I'm referring to is the one on the shirts they gave away at UDS in Dallas last November. Maybe I'll have to scan the shirt I have or try to reproduce it. It's got a lot of movement and shows "speed", which is one of the themes I'm trying to emulate. Déa Million www.DeaMillion.com A society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they know they shall never sit in. -Greek Proverb On Mar 15, 2010, at 5:01 AM, Thorsten Wilms wrote: > On Sun, 2010-03-14 at 18:32 -0400, Dea Million wrote: >> Does anyone know who did, (or where to locate,) the artwork of the >> white lynx on the t-shirts from the last UDS in Dallas? I'd like to >> use it, with permission, on the bike jersey I'm working on. > > The only white lynx I recall is my own work, but that was on a single > t-shirt, making me wonder how it could be the one you mean. > > http://www.spreadshirt.de/luchs-C4408A5546 > > > Saleel Velankar created (at least) two: > http://old.nabble.com/attachment/26346348/0/LYNX.PNG > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/attachments/20100131/6a2003e6/attachment-0001.png > > > -- > Thorsten Wilms > > thorwil's design for free software: > http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ > > > -- > ubuntu-art mailing list > ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Title Page Design on the Planet
2010/3/13 Thorsten Wilms : > Hi! > > I decided to show the next round of the Ubuntu Manual title page design > to a wider audience, so please have a look at: > http://thorwil.wordpress.com/2010/03/13/ubuntu-manual-title-page/ Hi Thorsten, all My personal point of view : >From all of your proposals, c is definitely the one I prefer, because it looks more simple, and may have a better impact on new users of ubuntu (ok, not so helpful so far ;) ). Some comments on it : - I'm not sure about the mouse pointer on the Ubuntu logo. It's not specific to version c, but from my point of view, the logo without the pointer would be better. the pointer suggest that the logo is a button. But as the button is the logo, you can't change it, and finally can't really suggest it actually is a button. I think I understand your idea (Do you suggest something like : "Ubuntu, just click and run ?") - On version c, maybe the aubergine area (the one on the top) would be better at the bottom of the page (like version d and e, in fact). The new design is not really clear so far, but at least, the new web theme presents more orange at the top, and looks more aubergine at the bottom of the page (this might also be my personal perception) I'm not very fond of the dots version. But maybe I didn't get what byou wanted to express. Hope these 2 cents are helpful :). -- Gilles (aka Poupoul2) Rencontres Mondiales du Logiciel Libre http://rmll.info -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Ubuntu-manual] Title Page Design on the Planet
On Mon, 2010-03-15 at 09:39 -0400, Saleel Velankar wrote: > The Grid is one of the best things going in these, but I already > blithered on about that. Interesting to see that inverse of the icons > is not an option; neither is vertical icons. I already went through vertical arrangements and inverse icons. I simply don't show each and every iteration, as export and presentation eat a lot of time and why would I bother if I'm sure it just doesn't cut it? ;) Inverse icons has a tendency to push the title aside / create an area of heavy weight that has to be balanced somehow. Going all light on dark would be problematic if people want to print this and would also mean inverse contrast to the content (something that is not much of a problem for printed material in your hands, but can seem brutal if it happens on screen). > not sure which font you used for the title. As for the colors, a touch > of aubergine should be enough, just to maintain brotherhood with the > official desktop. Biolinum as stated on my blog. I might push 3 edits, one of them mostly what Ben requested, later today. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Ubuntu-manual] Title Page Design on the Planet
On Mon, 2010-03-15 at 23:13 +1300, Benjamin Humphrey wrote: > Could you do one based on (b) that uses Aubergine for the icons > instead of Brown, and uses some dots instead of the wave thing at the > bottom? > > Also, the dots could be quite widely spaced so it's in line with > Canonical's new "enterprise vs. community" branding concept. > Wide-spaced dots suggest community. > > Have a look at Mark's post about the new branding for more > information. We want to try to follow the new Canonical branding as > much as possible. First you ask for the use of Aubergine, then you point out the commercial vs community thing regarding the dot grid. So you want to follow that concept with the grid, but not the colors? ;p Also, think twice before pointing me to a blog that I referenced several times myself and that has a topic that is central to my area of work. Finally following Canonicals identity (not brand, that would be the outcome) should go only so far as our own desired tone and message allow. As this is likely to sound a bit harsh, please think of bunnies, now. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Title Page Design on the Planet
On Mon, 2010-03-15 at 09:23 +, Bruno Girin wrote: > > http://thorwil.wordpress.com/2010/03/13/ubuntu-manual-title-page/ > I can't tell the difference between a and b but I like them: they are > simple and clean and the circle of friends pattern at the bottom says > "Ubuntu" to me. Title text in bold vs regular weight. > c is a bit top heavy, with this big blob of colour on top and a large > empty space below. > > d is OK but the white text on light orange background at the bottom is > difficult to read. > > f, g and h feel a bit boring: even though the design is shifted to the > right, all elements in the block are centred; and the dots don't have > any obvious meaning, apart from filling empty space (and possibly making > you feel that it's a big heavy manual that you don't want to read). > > Generally speaking, I prefer the flush left design of a and b to the > centred design of the others. I also feel that in c, d, e and f, the > logo is a little too large compared to the rest of the design. > > But all of this is subjective, they are all good designs. Thank you Bruno, this is a very helpful comment. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Title Page Design on the Planet
On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 21:30 +0100, Thorsten Wilms wrote: > Hi! > > I decided to show the next round of the Ubuntu Manual title page design > to a wider audience, so please have a look at: > http://thorwil.wordpress.com/2010/03/13/ubuntu-manual-title-page/ Nice designs. I can't tell the difference between a and b but I like them: they are simple and clean and the circle of friends pattern at the bottom says "Ubuntu" to me. c is a bit top heavy, with this big blob of colour on top and a large empty space below. d is OK but the white text on light orange background at the bottom is difficult to read. f, g and h feel a bit boring: even though the design is shifted to the right, all elements in the block are centred; and the dots don't have any obvious meaning, apart from filling empty space (and possibly making you feel that it's a big heavy manual that you don't want to read). Generally speaking, I prefer the flush left design of a and b to the centred design of the others. I also feel that in c, d, e and f, the logo is a little too large compared to the rest of the design. But all of this is subjective, they are all good designs. Regards, Bruno -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Jersey
On Sun, 2010-03-14 at 18:32 -0400, Dea Million wrote: > Does anyone know who did, (or where to locate,) the artwork of the > white lynx on the t-shirts from the last UDS in Dallas? I'd like to > use it, with permission, on the bike jersey I'm working on. The only white lynx I recall is my own work, but that was on a single t-shirt, making me wonder how it could be the one you mean. http://www.spreadshirt.de/luchs-C4408A5546 Saleel Velankar created (at least) two: http://old.nabble.com/attachment/26346348/0/LYNX.PNG https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/attachments/20100131/6a2003e6/attachment-0001.png -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Title Page Design on the Planet
On Sun, 2010-03-14 at 23:18 -0400, Saleel Velankar wrote: > They all look usable and clean, so any of them will do. > I think that putting the tile and icons justified center makes it seem > more formal and authoritative; but putting them offset, makes it look > more modern and approachable. > > I like the grid design more that the COF pattern, simply because it > reminds me of a grid, and is associated in my mind with a user manual. > I like them both a load over the half solid curve thingie, which > doesnt really jive, and makes it seem like those brochures people give > out at insurance places, which might very well be an ill defined > circle of hell, and have the little pocket, with an exta useless stock > picture of a smiley person. Thank you Saleel, this is the first comment that gives me something to work with! -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
