Re: [ubuntu-art] Layout Examples for Book on Open Soure Publishing

2010-12-08 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 13:45 -0700, Rob Oakes wrote:

  http://blog.oak-tree.us/index.php/2010/09/01/awesome-examples.)

What you write about examples in books and quality issues with many
free-software related offerings resonates with me.

Free Software could do with more and more skilled design and artwork
contributors. The path into free software development seems to be much
clearer.


  I wanted to see if there are examples of promotional materials,
  newsletters, posters, or templates that might be appropriate to
  include in the book from the Ubuntu project?

Perhaps
http://www.behance.net/gallery/Getting-Started-with-Ubuntu-10_04-Title-Page/588233
http://thorwil.wordpress.com/2010/08/01/ubuntu-chicago-loco-t-shirt/


  Any example of graphic communication (regardless of source) would be
  appropriate.  I am more  interested in inspiring and showing solid
  design principles than  advertising for a particular product (even
  something as wonderful as  open source).

I can't hand out the few more recent examples of my layout work due to
copyright and privacy concerns and the rest is just old and done with
Quark Xpress.

But have a look at the following. Might not be exactly what you're
after, but all qualifies at least for being done with Inkscape:
http://linuxaudio.org/files/music/1_front.png
http://linuxaudio.org/files/music/1_case.png
http://linuxaudio.org/files/music/1_label.png

http://thorwil.wordpress.com/2009/02/18/identica-freemusic-group/
http://thorwil.wordpress.com/2008/11/09/mudlet-2/
http://thorwil.wordpress.com/2008/11/02/a-window-for-wubi/
http://www.behance.net/gallery/Bad-Business/481607

SVG sources available.


In case illustrations done with GIMP are OK, too:
http://thorwil.wordpress.com/2010/03/09/design-in-collaborative-projects/


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[ubuntu-art] Lubuntu Spec

2010-12-08 Thread John Baer
Hey Lubuntu community and Thorsten,

I added some love to the Lubuntu spec so we may open this up for
submissions.

Are my changes acceptable?

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Backtestground wallpaper templates and utilities

2010-12-08 Thread John Baer
Hey Thorsten,

Will you provide a command line example of how to execute sizes. I am
getting an error and I believe the problem is it is trying to output files
to a location where it does not have permissions.

I am testing with the following syntax  python sizes image.png in a folder
I titled tmp.

John

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 Hi!

 About wallpaper templates and 2 utilities:
 http://thorwil.wordpress.com/2010/12/07/backtestground/

 These tools should help us with evaluating Xubuntu/Edubuntu/Lubuntu
 wallpaper submissions.

 Please ask if anything is unclear and don't hesitate to suggest changes
 and additions to the given explanations.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Backtestground wallpaper templates and utilities

2010-12-08 Thread John Baer
Thorsten,

Got it!  python sizes -o folder image.png

John

On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 7:36 AM, John Baer bae...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey Thorsten,

 Will you provide a command line example of how to execute sizes. I am
 getting an error and I believe the problem is it is trying to output files
 to a location where it does not have permissions.

 I am testing with the following syntax  python sizes image.png in a
 folder I titled tmp.

 John


 On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Thorsten Wilms t...@freenet.de wrote:

 Hi!

 About wallpaper templates and 2 utilities:
 http://thorwil.wordpress.com/2010/12/07/backtestground/

 These tools should help us with evaluating Xubuntu/Edubuntu/Lubuntu
 wallpaper submissions.

 Please ask if anything is unclear and don't hesitate to suggest changes
 and additions to the given explanations.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu Artwork Team Logo Deadline Extended

2010-12-08 Thread Vishnoo
On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 14:09 +0100, Thorsten Wilms wrote:
 On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 07:47 -0500, John Baer wrote:
  The deadline to the new Artwork Team Logo project is extended to
  2011-01-02 (...)
 
 I messed up the date on the wiki and just fixed that. Like I said
 earlier, 1st of February, so 2011-02-01.
 
 Sorry about that. Being the one to propose that ISO format, it had to me
 getting it wrong, of course :}
 
Why dont we forget the ISO naming and just stick with something that is
Human-readable? ;)

The date formats vary around the world and it will always be confusing
for anyone looking at plain numbers for date/months.

Instead, for months we use Jan/Feb/Mar.../Dec . And yrs/dates are
numerical /DD?

That way there would never arise this confusion of the date/month order.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu Artwork Team Logo Deadline Extended

2010-12-08 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 18:52 +0530, Vishnoo wrote:
 
 Why dont we forget the ISO naming and just stick with something that is
 Human-readable? ;)

The from big to small order is really not difficult to remember and
handle. But currently I have my head elsewhere.


 Instead, for months we use Jan/Feb/Mar.../Dec . And yrs/dates are
 numerical /DD?

Numerical dates are short and make calculations more obvious (or am I
alone in having to translate month names to numbers in my mind first,
where I don't have a direct mapping for all months, so need to count
steps in some cases?)

And then we would have the question which format using names, exactly?


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Backtestground wallpaper templates and utilities

2010-12-08 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 08:12 -0500, John Baer wrote:
 Got it!  python sizes -o folder image.png

Good thing you found that out. Currently you have to specify the output
directory with -o, always. Sorry about that.

Of course one also has to make sure the file permission allow execution.

I updated my blog post accordingly.

I have no clue why I didn't run into this problem, before. Did most of
my testing with files installed via setup.py, but there should be no
difference.


Meanwhile, my PPA issue has been solved, thanks to the patience of
Julian Edwards. I simply didn't import my GPG key and already having my
SSH key there, using it with bzr all the time, made me think that would
be it.

But now I have to look into the -o issue, first.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu Artwork Team Logo Deadline Extended

2010-12-08 Thread Charlie Kravetz
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On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 14:43:32 +0100
Thorsten Wilms t...@freenet.de wrote:

 On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 18:52 +0530, Vishnoo wrote:
  
  Why dont we forget the ISO naming and just stick with something that is
  Human-readable? ;)
 
 The from big to small order is really not difficult to remember and
 handle. But currently I have my head elsewhere.
 
 
  Instead, for months we use Jan/Feb/Mar.../Dec . And yrs/dates are
  numerical /DD?
 
 Numerical dates are short and make calculations more obvious (or am I
 alone in having to translate month names to numbers in my mind first,
 where I don't have a direct mapping for all months, so need to count
 steps in some cases?)
 
 And then we would have the question which format using names, exactly?
 
 

I too count out the months when the name appears. Whether numbers or
names are used, the format should be standard. I can write as in the
U.S. Military 12 December 2010; as in American writing December 12,
2010; as in Europe and the rest of the world 2010 December 12. Then
there are the abbreviations of the months, two instead of four digit
years, etc. 

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu Artwork Team Logo Deadline Extended

2010-12-08 Thread Vishnoo
On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 14:43 +0100, Thorsten Wilms wrote:
 On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 18:52 +0530, Vishnoo wrote:
 
  Instead, for months we use Jan/Feb/Mar.../Dec . And yrs/dates are
  numerical /DD?
 
 Numerical dates are short and make calculations more obvious

I'm not sure I see any need for us to make calculations in the artwork
related tasks.

From what i foresee, all I can think of are deadlines for dates on the
wiki. Which everyone around the world has to understand correctly.

If we are in-need of any calculations, it would be only for people
writing the task specs, and that would be only a handful[max 10-20
people writing the tasks?]. Even if all those 20 are
month-mathematically-challenged and it takes them longer[max 5mins
extra?] to figure out the days and months, the trade-off seems OK.

More people able to understand the task deadline and not getting it
mixed up is better than few members taking a little extra time to write
the specs.

 And then we would have the question which format using names, exactly?

Yea, any format order seems good to me. 
http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-date-format
Since obviously option 1 has its pit-fall of not being
international-friendly, let's go with option 2 :  1 February 2010

Or if we want to keep it short  : 1 Feb 2010 / 2010, 1 Feb

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu Artwork Team Logo Deadline Extended

2010-12-08 Thread Сергей
2010/12/8 Vishnoo v...@ubuntu.com

 http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-date-format
 Since obviously option 1 has its pit-fall of not being
 international-friendly, let's go with option 2 :  1 February 2010

 Or if we want to keep it short  : 1 Feb 2010 / 2010, 1 Feb


+1 (or shall I put it 'Vishnoo++'?)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu Artwork Team Logo Deadline Extended

2010-12-08 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 20:27 +0530, Vishnoo wrote:

 http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-date-format
 Since obviously option 1 has its pit-fall of not being
 international-friendly, let's go with option 2 :  1 February 2010
 
 Or if we want to keep it short  : 1 Feb 2010 / 2010, 1 Feb

No mixed order, please.

I'm not opposed to 1 February 2010. It won't be me going through all
specs to adjust the format. If nobody does, 2010-01-01 will remain the
standard.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Backtestground wallpaper templates and utilities

2010-12-08 Thread Thorsten Wilms
Fixed the bug in sizes where you had to specify -o or get an error.

Get the updated file via this most beautiful link:
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%
7Et-w-/backtestground/backtestground/download/t_w_%
40freenet.de-20101208172633-fd3sdha0kgyc3a76/backtestground.py-20101129203610-2qs5uqs0470whggp-1/sizes

Blog post edited accordingly
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[ubuntu-art] Wallpaper due dates need to be checked - was Re: Ubuntu Artwork Team Logo Deadline Extended

2010-12-08 Thread Vishnoo
On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 18:11 +0100, Thorsten Wilms wrote:
 On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 20:27 +0530, Vishnoo wrote:
 
  http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-date-format
  Since obviously option 1 has its pit-fall of not being
  international-friendly, let's go with option 2 :  1 February 2010
  
  Or if we want to keep it short  : 1 Feb 2010 / 2010, 1 Feb
 
 No mixed order, please.
 
 I'm not opposed to 1 February 2010. 

OK, updated the dates.

While checking out the dates, I noticed that the due date for
Xubuntu,Edubuntu,Lubuntu wallpaper is specked as *25* Mar 2011.

The final date for Natty User Interface Freeze is March *24*
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyReleaseSchedule

While the derivatives do have freedom to be a bit flexible with the
freeze dates, setting a due date which falls /after/ the freeze is a bit
weird.

IMO, we should close submissions 10-15days before the UI freeze. 
Closing alteast 10 days before freeze would give, 7 days for judging and
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Wallpaper due dates need to be checked - was Re: Ubuntu Artwork Team Logo Deadline Extended

2010-12-08 Thread John Baer
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Vishnoo v...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 18:11 +0100, Thorsten Wilms wrote:
  On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 20:27 +0530, Vishnoo wrote:
 
   http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-date-format
   Since obviously option 1 has its pit-fall of not being
   international-friendly, let's go with option 2 :  1 February 2010
  
   Or if we want to keep it short  : 1 Feb 2010 / 2010, 1 Feb
 
  No mixed order, please.
 
  I'm not opposed to 1 February 2010.

 OK, updated the dates.

 While checking out the dates, I noticed that the due date for
 Xubuntu,Edubuntu,Lubuntu wallpaper is specked as *25* Mar 2011.

 The final date for Natty User Interface Freeze is March *24*
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyReleaseSchedule

 While the derivatives do have freedom to be a bit flexible with the
 freeze dates, setting a due date which falls /after/ the freeze is a bit
 weird.

 IMO, we should close submissions 10-15days before the UI freeze.
 Closing alteast 10 days before freeze would give, 7 days for judging and
 approvals, atleast 3 days for contacting the respective artists and any
 final tweaks.

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Vish,

Thank you for adding some love to the Wiki. Ten days sounds good to me but
on a different thread to this list the Lubuntu community expressed their
desire to close submissions on the March 17th. Does that work? If agreed,
let's make them all the same.

Best regards,

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[ubuntu-art] Ready for Lubuntu Wallpaper Submissions

2010-12-08 Thread John Baer
Hello Everyone,

I am pleased to announce we are ready to accept Lubuntu wallpaper
submissions.

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/0008_Lubuntu_Natty_Wallpaper

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Lubuntu Spec

2010-12-08 Thread Larissa Laricci
Wow, it looks like minimalist  hahaha, what a coriuos wallpaper!!

I'm think is Good

Regards... Larissa! D:

2010/12/8 Thorsten Wilms t...@freenet.de

 Forwarded forwarded mail with permission :)

  Message transféré 
 De: Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com
 À: John Baer bae...@gmail.com
 Cc: mariobehl...@googlemail.com, 神癒礁湖 · Rafael Laguna
 rafaellag...@gmail.com
 Sujet: Re: Lubuntu Spec
 Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2010 20:05:00 +0100

 Hi John,

 Le mercredi 08 décembre 2010 à 13:24 -0500, John Baer a écrit :
  How does the Lubuntu spec look?  Please note the spec advises artist
  to consider other colors than those from your pallet. Is that agreed?
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/0008_Lubuntu_Natty_Wallpaper

 First, please note that I'm not a designer or an artistic people :)

 About the pallet, do you check with Canonical if others colors are
 acceptable for a derivated of Ubuntu ? Last time we check, the pallet
 was limited, and we had to stay with this one (which IMO, is nice).

 You need also to consider that, if people propose a very different color
 for the wallpaper, we will not accept it, unless they propose an entire
 theme which match this submission. So, no need to spend time in
 submissions we will reject for sure.

 About the spec :
 - Introduction
 We have specific targets for our users, see our wiki page :
 Lubuntu is targeted at normal PC and laptop users running on low-spec
 hardware. Such users may not know how to use command line tools, and in
 most cases they just don't have enough resources for all the bells and
 whistles of the full-featured mainstream distributions.

 - Inspiration:
 Well, our strategy for artwork is more practical :
  * We want a nice artwork ...
  * ... with no big requirement
  * ... which render good and fast

 - Schedule :
 Our final schedule for the artwork :
 March 17th : End of proposal for artwork
 March 22nd : Decision for Artwork

 Please note that is for all the artwork. There will be no step before
 this (not a first step for the wallpaper, and another for the remaining
 parts).

 I hope the answer is complete enough, sorry if it's quite late in the
 process, I was busy recently.

 Regards,
 Julien Lavergne



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