Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork
On 02/10/2011 09:50 PM, Pumpkin Lord wrote: http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/8550/ubuntuuniversalorby.png Interesting layout. Setting ubuntu in bold shows as much sensibility as a boxing glove, both regarding the impression as such, but also regarding respecting the visual identity of Ubuntu and the work put into it by the design team and Dalton Maag. The wide tracking used on linux for Human beings and www.ubuntu.com is brutal, too. The first string mentioned also has irregular kerning (li n ux). The 3 bullet point items on the backside dance around way too much. Centered text combined with bullet points is rarely a good idea. The big ubuntu box is close to being lined up with the small boxes on the spine area, but not quite. This makes that part of the layout appear random. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 68, Issue 10
great work! but you need to change the rasterize setting! 2011/2/10 ubuntu-art-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com Send ubuntu-art mailing list submissions to ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ubuntu-art-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com You can reach the person managing the list at ubuntu-art-ow...@lists.ubuntu.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of ubuntu-art digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork (Pumpkin Lord) 2. Re: Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork (Angus Fretwell) 3. Re: Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork (Angus Fretwell) 4. Re: Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork (Pumpkin Lord) 5. Re: Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork (Angus Fretwell) 6. Re: Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork (Franco Colomba) 7. Re: Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork (Pumpkin Lord) 8. Re: Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork (Angus Fretwell) -- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 21:50:49 +0100 From: Pumpkin Lord eldis.des...@gmail.com To: Discussion on Ubuntu artwork ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork Message-ID: AANLkTikGTrFXttkRXm-tJmNh4wkntzdz13qA2=ml2...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I made some small modifications on my last addition. Some color changes, and now with more pictogram-alike look. Maybe a bit more official-ish feel... Here it is: http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/8550/ubuntuuniversalorby.png -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- Message: 2 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 07:53:29 +1100 From: Angus Fretwell angusfretw...@me.com To: Discussion on Ubuntu artwork ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork Message-ID: e7ff5698-937e-4650-a9c3-9cd225aec...@me.com Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Woah! That is a lot better than the last one I saw. Great work! On 11/02/2011, at 7:50 AM, Pumpkin Lord wrote: I made some small modifications on my last addition. Some color changes, and now with more pictogram-alike look. Maybe a bit more official-ish feel... Here it is: http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/8550/ubuntuuniversalorby.png -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- Message: 3 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 07:54:05 +1100 From: Angus Fretwell angusfretw...@me.com To: Discussion on Ubuntu artwork ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork Message-ID: ec234b43-d56b-4e4d-b148-bc9871c8f...@me.com Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Can I add that you could try making the orange icons cut-outs of the white, like the ubuntu logo. On 11/02/2011, at 7:50 AM, Pumpkin Lord wrote: I made some small modifications on my last addition. Some color changes, and now with more pictogram-alike look. Maybe a bit more official-ish feel... Here it is: http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/8550/ubuntuuniversalorby.png -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- Message: 4 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 22:15:44 +0100 From: Pumpkin Lord eldis.des...@gmail.com To: Discussion on Ubuntu artwork ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork Message-ID: aanlktimxuwuppfsgjqojdqka8gfdlsxim4n+_4e1s...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Ofcourse you can suggest anything you like. That's why we're here, right. ;) And now, did you mean something like this? http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/1209/ubuntuuniversalorby2.png I must say that I also considered leaving only white overlays, like on Ubuntu official CD sleeves, but I wanted to include this Ubuntu orange somehow, cause it appears everywhere, from Ubuntu website, to Ubuntu itself. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- Message: 5 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 08:25:55 +1100 From: Angus Fretwell angusfretw...@me.com To: Discussion on Ubuntu artwork ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork Message-ID: 0308e4e3-95b3-4332-9dd0-754c4d743...@me.com Content-Type: text/plain;
Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork
@Thorsten step by step in short. - Setting ubuntu in bold is much more effective to me, and it looks totally contrary from what you said, much more polisfed and sensitive. Should I say that I played a lot with standard Ubuntu font, and I wasn't satisfied at all, at least considering title font. And about respecting visual identity. I guess then that I'm totally irrespective cause I used bold instead standard font. :) I never wanted to make my cover looks like an official sleeve rip-off. Othervise this topic would be pointless, as well as a DVD cover itself. - About wide tracking... The best I can tell you is that I respect your opinion. To me it's effective as it could be. Also I should mention that I played with warious characters spacing. About kerning, I dont's see anything that wrong, or misplaced. - I agree that bulleting with a centered text is not that great choice. That is the part of cover I'm still not satisfied with. - The big Ubuntu box is not perfectly lined with side boxes, because I lined the right live CD text with upper edge (guideline I set for myself). So I wanted to make all 4 sides of cover layers to have proportional distance from edge (you can check it). Anyway, thanks for the feedback. I alredy changed some stuff after this version you reviewed, and I will change few more before I release a complete pack on spreadubuntu, and deviantart. I think this artwork sum up everything I think about your feedback: http://theal.deviantart.com/art/Opinion-not-Fact-194945734?q=gallery%3Atheal%2F7848059qo=1 Cheers my friend. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork
And to add that I checked your blog before. I respect your work highly. Don't want to transform this topic into flaming war. :) Keep up with great work, anyway. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork
The kerning is off. I think if you're using Photoshop, you can fix it by changing the kerning from 'metrics' to 'optical' and that should fix it. :) On 11/02/2011, at 8:04 PM, Pumpkin Lord wrote: @Thorsten step by step in short. - Setting ubuntu in bold is much more effective to me, and it looks totally contrary from what you said, much more polisfed and sensitive. Should I say that I played a lot with standard Ubuntu font, and I wasn't satisfied at all, at least considering title font. And about respecting visual identity. I guess then that I'm totally irrespective cause I used bold instead standard font. :) I never wanted to make my cover looks like an official sleeve rip-off. Othervise this topic would be pointless, as well as a DVD cover itself. - About wide tracking... The best I can tell you is that I respect your opinion. To me it's effective as it could be. Also I should mention that I played with warious characters spacing. About kerning, I dont's see anything that wrong, or misplaced. - I agree that bulleting with a centered text is not that great choice. That is the part of cover I'm still not satisfied with. - The big Ubuntu box is not perfectly lined with side boxes, because I lined the right live CD text with upper edge (guideline I set for myself). So I wanted to make all 4 sides of cover layers to have proportional distance from edge (you can check it). Anyway, thanks for the feedback. I alredy changed some stuff after this version you reviewed, and I will change few more before I release a complete pack on spreadubuntu, and deviantart. I think this artwork sum up everything I think about your feedback: http://theal.deviantart.com/art/Opinion-not-Fact-194945734?q=gallery%3Atheal%2F7848059qo=1 Cheers my friend. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork
On 02/11/2011 10:04 AM, Pumpkin Lord wrote: I think this artwork sum up everything I think about your feedback: http://theal.deviantart.com/art/Opinion-not-Fact-194945734?q=gallery%3Atheal%2F7848059qo=1 You're response was acceptable until that point. That statement is both true and incredibly dumb. We're dealing with perception and culture, not with mathematic logic here, so you can tag as much with opinion as you feel like. Does that help anyone getting anything anywhere? Would you feel better if I sugar up my words with in my eyes, in my opinion, i think ... ? (I sometimes do, but tend not to, if I'm damn sure) -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork
@Thorsten - I didn't want to insult you, but I see that you feel that way unfortunately. It was a bit of joke. And yes, I would feel better, if there was some IMO, here nad there, especially if someone is criticizing you in strictly negative way. But ofcourse it's not an obligation. :) I see you're damn sure about your opinion, as you added at the end, so I can only say that I respect it. And really, you took this joke with artwork seriously. The last thing I want is to insult anyone. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork
@Thorsten and Angus - Sorry guys if that turned out like that, but it wasn't meant to be any rude or arrogant. If that was the case, then I wouldn't be trying to answer all aspects of Thorsten's mail step by step. I would just paste that famous statement, it's just your opinion, and that's it. After all, we're all here to learn and listen and take critics, positive or negative. That's how we learn. Cheers, and peace. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork
And if you'll feel better, I'm already fixing some things you mentioned, about the font, and back bullet tips misplacing. ;) -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork
Thanks Angus. I'm currently fixing some small things so I expect you'll be around here today to give me some feedback. :) -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork - Getting Close to Final
New fixes applied. Back info text is now nicely aligned and not floating around. Some small changes on side tab are applied too. Considering optical vs metric font kerning mantioned before, optical didn't provide any notable improvements. Here is the result: http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/6773/ubuntuuniversalorby4.png -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork - Getting Close to Final
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Pumpkin Lord eldis.des...@gmail.comwrote: New fixes applied. Back info text is now nicely aligned and not floating around. Some small changes on side tab are applied too. Considering optical vs metric font kerning mantioned before, optical didn't provide any notable improvements. Here is the result: http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/6773/ubuntuuniversalorby4.png -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art This is coming along nicely. Keep up the good work! John -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
