Re: [ubuntu-art] Metacity composite
Are crazy compiz-like effects being worked on or will they be? On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Cory K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Danny Piccirillo wrote: > > Sorry if this is slightly off topic but I read a while ago that > > Metacity was adding composite features like transparency, etc. When > > will this be available? Does this mean that at some point we may be > > able to get all the features of compiz with metacity and be able to > > ditch compiz fusion? This would open up a lot more possibilities for > > themes, wouldn't it? > > Please do not top-post. > > Its actually available in Hardy but doesn't have crazy Compiz effects. > > In gconf: '/apps/metacity/general/compositing_manager' Click the box. > > -Cory K. > > -- > ubuntu-art mailing list > ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Confirmation that Canonical is making a new default theme
Sorry if this is slightly off topic but I read a while ago that Metacity was adding composite features like transparency, etc. When will this be available? Does this mean that at some point we may be able to get all the features of compiz with metacity and be able to ditch compiz fusion? This would open up a lot more possibilities for themes, wouldn't it? On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 11:26 AM, SzerencseFia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Matthew Nuzum wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 9:41 PM, AA Boy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> Hello, there seems to be some discussion over at the forums about there > not > >> being a default theme, and the references used are the Kyudo Guidelines > >> Mindset page and that the art deadline that just passed today. So, > Canonical > >> is making a theme and releasing it with the Beta? > > > > Since this is the first release post-LTS the plan according to our > > discussion early in the release cycle was to do something > > revolutionary that would probably require more than one release cycle > > to accomplish. During the alpha stages there has been a dramatically > > different theme for the default in order to flush out bugs related to > > dark themes. > > > > I am not privy to the final decision by Mark (if a final decision has > > been made for Intrepid) but according to the plan from months ago, > > around now the default would revert to the same for hardy until Jaunty > > devel starts up again - actually, probably post UDS. > > > > Don't be surprised if the theme for Intrepid looks a lot like hardy, > > big changes are hard to accomplish in the few months alloted for one > > release. However, rest assured that we have had a *very* active and > > productive development cycle here on the art-team and there are > > several great themes in progress. > > > > I can confirm this just like Matt. IMHO the dark theme development is not > prior to general > development of Gnome themes today. Additional there are tons of crap themes > out there based on > somewhat incomplete or massed up code. In theming dark color base gtkrc it > make is so difficult to > find a good and workable combination. So, it gets the focus down on Ubuntu > Art Team as we are to > make an easy choice for Canonical. > > -- > Cheers, Erno [szerencsefia] > --- > Home: http://www.szerencsefia.webs.com/ > WhoIs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SzerencseFia > > -- > ubuntu-art mailing list > ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] New Theme every LTS release
Okay i think i understand. Do you see any problem with getting new themes included? Or perhaps a lack of effort creating new themes? There seem to be lots of mockups that everybody loves, but aren't being turned into themes. Why is this?I love ubuntu, but i think it needs a lot of work on the interface, 'look and feel' and speed (although that's unrelated). Do you think the current system is fine? Should it change or should something be done to make the system work better? On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 9:31 AM, Kenneth Wimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 04 September 2008 15:19:38 Danny Piccirillo wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 8:33 AM, Kenneth Wimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Thursday 04 September 2008 14:15:50 Danny Piccirillo wrote: > > > > On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 7:59 AM, Kenneth Wimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > On Thursday 04 September 2008 13:46:13 Danny Piccirillo wrote: > > > > > > I'm not sure if this has been discussed before, but i've been > > > > > > trying > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > think of ways to get new, better themes into Ubuntu. What i mean > > > > > > is, > > > > > > > > > > every > > > > > > > > > > > release, we see beautiful mockups, but nothing ever comes of it. > I > > > > > > think something needs to change so that these mockups have a > chance > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > getting worked on. If not this, i think something should be done > > > > > > differently to address this problem-- it doesn't matter what. My > > > > > > idea is simply that > > > > > > > > > > after > > > > > > > > > > > every LTS release, a mockup is voted on to work on for the next > LTS > > > > > > release, giving plenty of time to work on it. Is this reasonable? > > > > > > Would > > > > > > > > > this work? > > > > > > > > > > Shortly before 8.04 (Hardy Heron) it was decided that the LTS > release > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > the > > > > > final release in an artwork cycle, exactly as you suggest. > > > > > > > > Hm, are these themes chosen for inclusion in intrepid? Because i was > > > > thinking the problem may have been that the themes didn't have enough > > > > > > time > > > > > > > to get worked on. This is why i thought choosing the theme for the > next> > > > >chive>) so that everyone can test > > > > > them without having to compile anything themselves. Our next step > is > > > > > to include these in the next Intrepid Ibex alpha so keep any eye > out > > > > > for them there if you aren't interested or don't have the time to > > > > > check > > > > > > them > > > > > > > > out via the PPA I mentioned. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Kenneth Wimer > > > > > > LTS > > > > > > > at the current LTS might be a better idea. > > > > > > Yes, these themes will be included in Intrepid. An LTS release has to > be > > > stable and is, as the name implies, supported over a long term and > > > therefor is the wrong place to include new, untested themes. > > > > Exactly the reason i thought choosing themes to work on for the next LTS > at > > the LTS before would be a good idea. This way they can be worked on for a > > long time and with focus on the few themes that are chosen. Am i > > misunderstanding you? Is this already what is done? > > Almost. They are picked after the LTS, once they have been proposed and > made > it to a level in which it actualy works and has some respose from users so > we > have an idea about the popularity. > > Ken > > -- > ubuntu-art mailing list > ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] New Theme every LTS release
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 8:33 AM, Kenneth Wimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 04 September 2008 14:15:50 Danny Piccirillo wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 7:59 AM, Kenneth Wimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Thursday 04 September 2008 13:46:13 Danny Piccirillo wrote: > > > > I'm not sure if this has been discussed before, but i've been trying > to > > > > think of ways to get new, better themes into Ubuntu. What i mean is, > > > > > > every > > > > > > > release, we see beautiful mockups, but nothing ever comes of it. I > > > > think something needs to change so that these mockups have a chance > of > > > > getting worked on. If not this, i think something should be done > > > > differently to address this problem-- it doesn't matter what. My idea > > > > is simply that > > > > > > after > > > > > > > every LTS release, a mockup is voted on to work on for the next LTS > > > > release, giving plenty of time to work on it. Is this reasonable? > Would > > > > this work? > > > > > > Shortly before 8.04 (Hardy Heron) it was decided that the LTS release > is > > > the > > > final release in an artwork cycle, exactly as you suggest. > > > > Hm, are these themes chosen for inclusion in intrepid? Because i was > > thinking the problem may have been that the themes didn't have enough > time > > to get worked on. This is why i thought choosing the theme for the next > LTS > > at the current LTS might be a better idea. > > Yes, these themes will be included in Intrepid. An LTS release has to be > stable and is, as the name implies, supported over a long term and therefor > is the wrong place to include new, untested themes. Exactly the reason i thought choosing themes to work on for the next LTS at the LTS before would be a good idea. This way they can be worked on for a long time and with focus on the few themes that are chosen. Am i misunderstanding you? Is this already what is done? > > For 8.10 (Intrepid > > > Ibex) we have been reviewing new themes (the dark theme, and so far 3 > > > community themes). We have picked these themes for inclusion due to > their > > > quality and popularity. Although we will not vote on the matter the > > > interests > > > of users are definitely taken into account. I've set up a PPA with the > > > themes > > > in question > > > > (https://launchpad.net/~kwwii/+archive<https://launchpad.net/%7Ekwwii/+archive> > <https://launchpad.net/%7Ekwwii/+ar > > >chive>) so that everyone can test > > > them without having to compile anything themselves. Our next step is to > > > include these in the next Intrepid Ibex alpha so keep any eye out for > > > them there if you aren't interested or don't have the time to check > them > > > out via the PPA I mentioned. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Kenneth Wimer > > > -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] New Theme every LTS release
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 7:59 AM, Kenneth Wimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 04 September 2008 13:46:13 Danny Piccirillo wrote: > > I'm not sure if this has been discussed before, but i've been trying to > > think of ways to get new, better themes into Ubuntu. What i mean is, > every > > release, we see beautiful mockups, but nothing ever comes of it. I think > > something needs to change so that these mockups have a chance of getting > > worked on. If not this, i think something should be done differently to > > address this problem-- it doesn't matter what. My idea is simply that > after > > every LTS release, a mockup is voted on to work on for the next LTS > > release, giving plenty of time to work on it. Is this reasonable? Would > > this work? > > Shortly before 8.04 (Hardy Heron) it was decided that the LTS release is > the > final release in an artwork cycle, exactly as you suggest. Hm, are these themes chosen for inclusion in intrepid? Because i was thinking the problem may have been that the themes didn't have enough time to get worked on. This is why i thought choosing the theme for the next LTS at the current LTS might be a better idea. > For 8.10 (Intrepid > Ibex) we have been reviewing new themes (the dark theme, and so far 3 > community themes). We have picked these themes for inclusion due to their > quality and popularity. Although we will not vote on the matter the > interests > of users are definitely taken into account. I've set up a PPA with the > themes > in question > (https://launchpad.net/~kwwii/+archive<https://launchpad.net/%7Ekwwii/+archive>) > so that everyone can test > them without having to compile anything themselves. Our next step is to > include these in the next Intrepid Ibex alpha so keep any eye out for them > there if you aren't interested or don't have the time to check them out via > the PPA I mentioned. > > Thanks, > Kenneth Wimer > -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] New Theme every LTS release
I'm not sure if this has been discussed before, but i've been trying to think of ways to get new, better themes into Ubuntu. What i mean is, every release, we see beautiful mockups, but nothing ever comes of it. I think something needs to change so that these mockups have a chance of getting worked on. If not this, i think something should be done differently to address this problem-- it doesn't matter what. My idea is simply that after every LTS release, a mockup is voted on to work on for the next LTS release, giving plenty of time to work on it. Is this reasonable? Would this work? -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
