Re: [ubuntu-art] Dapper lookfeel, some (maybe) useful links
The popup color is nice with human theme, but as soon as you change it for something else, it looks really strange. IMO it should use the gtk theme colors, or a boring color like the new old popup. PS I noticed that the notification-daemon has switched to an IMHO horrible yellow bubble, is this the final look? the previous one looks way more professional to me. ;-) The shape of the popup is fixed, the close icon needs work, the background colour isn't final. Mark -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Graphite vs Heat theme
It is true that our themes overlap a bit. The main difference i think is that Heat keeps a brown touch, while graphite tends to be blueish (maybe that's just a contrast with Heat ) I updated the theme to make it more like graphite, but i kept a brown touch. Screenshot : http://www.mentalwarp.com/~fred/divers/ubuntu/Screenshot1.1.png Download : http://www.mentalwarp.com/~fred/divers/ubuntu/Heat1.1.tar.gz You can also get the tango-aluminium icon set here : http://www.mentalwarp.com/~fred/divers/ubuntu/Tango-Aluminium.tar.gz I'll do a wikipage soon. Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen a écrit : On Sun, 2006-03-12 at 20:14 -0400, Javier Aravena C. wrote: Hi all, I've made a theme for the Ubuntulooks engine based on the graphite colours and I'll eventually make all major clearlooks color schemes that look right with the theme (such as quicksilver, default, gperfection and olive) if no ones does it before. as they weight so little we could make a UbuntuLooks-colour (or color) pack shipping all that styles, let alone a meta package (although if you guys want to have just meta packages I can make one) http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=36370 It looks like you are trying to accomplish much the same as the Heat theme from Frédéric van der Essen... Ie. - a toned down grayish theme - which I totally acknowledge btw - I think it will have a huge user base. Much like the silver-version of XPs theme. Heat: http://www.mentalwarp.com/~fred/divers/ubuntu/Screenshot.png UL-graphite: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/pre1/36370-1.jpg I pasted Frédérics original Heat-mail at the bottom of this mail. So my suggestion: Javier and Frédéric - team up. Ping pong a bit, and put a page on the wiki. I really think a theme along those lines has a place in Dapper. It seems like there's plenty work for several people - I don't know about the gray Tango theme from Heat - but I bet it can use a lot of work :-) (I think it's great btw). And if you care for my 2 cents on this, I think it is a good idea to keep a slightly brownish feel to it, like Heat has. That way it will feel more Ubuntish. Just very subtle - don't over do it :D Cheers, Mikkel On Sun, 2006-03-12 at 03:04 +0100, Frédéric van der Essen wrote: I just made a new theme. It's a simple color variation from the current human theme. It goes with a background i made and the gray-tango icon theme. It's brown but not too much. The suggested background is red, but the gtk theme goes well with any other color. It doesn't follow the ubuntu color palette. screenshot : http://www.mentalwarp.com/~fred/divers/ubuntu/Screenshot.png Gtk theme : http://www.mentalwarp.com/~fred/divers/ubuntu/Heat.tar.gz Background : http://www.mentalwarp.com/~fred/divers/ubuntu/Heat.png Is it possible to suggest a background in a gnome theme ? -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] some artwork.
Thanks for the comments everyone. I must say that my background was not meant to be default or to please everyone. As soon as you put more than two colors, with one of them different than blue, it will lead to strongly different opinions. The safest way to please everyone is to keep the art monochrome. and even safest is blue monochrome. That's what apple did. But i personally find monochrome brown to be highly depressive. So i put bright colors, that can't please anyone. We're doomed ^^ I also agree about the small dots problem for accessibilty. The ubuntu is not obvious, but the backrgound is not an ubuntu ad. About the flat and dirty look. I'm glad you like it but a lot of people just find it dirty and disgusting. So i'll do a less personal artwork that might please more people, But i can't promise any date for it. And about unification : this is impossible to do as a community. As there is no objective way to judge art, it is not possible to find community solutions. We need a graphist dictator, or we'll be doomed to pointless flamewars and disparate artwork. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] some artwork.
For those interested in the vector part of the background : http://www.mentalwarp.com/~fred/divers/simple-brown-background.svg -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Dapper Splash continues...
First i'm sorry that i wasn't able to be at the saturday meeting. I have web access only at university so it will hard for me to be at any meeting or to follow closely any discussion here. I would like to take this dapper splash thread as an example of why we really need a comprehensive guideline document for ubuntu artwork. First, here is my advices on theses splash screens. - first, better is the ennemy of good. The current splash screen is already good and you tried to make them better by adding random things, this isn't how it works. While it was equilibrated an coherent before, your additions just doesn't blend with the original theme. - second, your additions doesn't seem to follow the ubuntu spirit But WTF is the ubuntu spirit, i don't know it myself either, and i would like a definition or guideline before i can start doing artwork. Grids look cartesian, precise and scientific, is that the ubuntu spirit ? I don't think so... Your circles looks abstract, geometric, is that compatible with the ubuntu spirit ? I don't really know... But what i know is that you created a new logo that competes with the original one., and i don't think it's a good idea. So what is exactly the ubuntu spirit, what ideas do you associate with it, what's it's definition ? Personnally i associate those terms human, earth, organical, fluid, nature, brown, orange, warm, soft, skin but it would make things easier if there was an offical definition ( an artwork guide ) Here is another example of things that the guide should include : If we have to include a representation of an object should it be styled : - cartoon - shematic - photorelasitic - abstract ? There is a lot of question that i'm asking myself before making an artwork. I would like some answers, and i'm sure i'm not alone. what's really important if we want to make ubuntu look professional is some kind of unity in the artwork, and it will never happen if everybody just makes what they like. That's why we also need some art director. Viper550 asked advices on his artwork, but there was none official response. Just some i like i don't like, i would be in his position, i wouldn't know what to do. I can start an ubuntu artwork guide document, but as i don't grasp all the reasoning behind the current look, i might alter it. But as showing done work is better than talk, i'll start such a document tonight and ask for review. Maybe you have better advices ? -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Icon feedback
Hi ! Here is my review of the current icon theme after a few days of use :) So i'll start with what i found especially nice :) no particular order. * the theme is overal quite illustration oriented, i like the fact that the icons for documents are like stamps, they have a nice white border with some pretty illustrations. The fact that every document icon follow these theme give an unity. I also like the fact that the illustrations doesn't show the program icon or pointless text, but a more symbolic picture. *the colors are vivid and help a lot in quickly identifying the icon meaning. Question : does these colors have any meaning, like blue = media gray= generic icon red= executable It looks like they don't, but maybe would it be nice to think about that ? Here is now what i didn't liked :( no particular order. *I don't understand why the video files doesn't follow the same rules as the other documents. why doesn't they have the white borders ? *the gnome-fs-shared and alike have icons that looks like servers, it is quite confusing since they doesn't automatically point at servers, they mostly point at shared folders In every other theme they use a variation of the folder icon, i find it nicer and more logical that way. It is especially nicer that way in the network server directory, where there is real servers and shared folders mixed. *Sometimes the icons are too shiny/glossy/plastic/KDE-ish/Linspired/etc... It doesnt fit well with the GTK theme. I don't know what will be the next metacity theme, i read that it will be a variation of clearlooks, wich isn't glossy at all. The too shiny icons also doesn't fit well with the third party applications icons. - Specifically the folder icon, gaim icon, firefox icon, are looking too shiny. * I, _personally_ , don't really like the folders and compressed folders icons. the folder icon is too shiny and has a color that doesn't go well with alternatives desktop background. the open box for the compressed folder has a too complex shape, and the colors have the same issues. To make things more clear i tried to change the icons to my taste. You can take this patch as a proposal, as ideas, or whatever you like :) www.mentalwarp.com/~fred/divers/humility-fred-contrib2.zip - Fred - efbie - -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
