Re: [ubuntu-art] This is my new Nautilus 2010 for Ubuntu 10.10

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2010/5/20 "Duy Anh Nguyễn" :
>  You can download or watch here:
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That actually looks like it would be more confusing, not less. I can
imagine many new people would ask where the menu bar is. In addition,
the text beside icons is a waste of space, and I for one keep a lot of
files in my home directory, not to mention that in Netbook Remix
screen space is a major factor. I do not like the idea of a background
in the file window either, it would be distracting, IMO, competing for
attention from the desktop. The only thing I actually agree with is
the zoom bar placement, but that is because it is in my past Nautilus
mockup which has already been partially implemented. Overall, though,
this doesn't seem to improve usability much, and change for the sake
of change is bad.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Need Help with new Lynx wallpaper, also advice.

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On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Saleel Velankar  wrote:

> Ugh. sorry for the excess of emails. I have uploaded a fixed 3.5.
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I like this one the best so far anyway, the circular shape seems more
balanced than with it farther moved down like in 3. I am not sure about the
yellow, though, I think a different color (another brown?) may fit better.
Or it could just be me, because as I look at it my opinion on that keeps
wavering. :P

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Need Help with new Lynx wallpaper, also advice.

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On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Saleel Velankar wrote:

>
>
> k it wasn't the intersecting lines, my perspective was off for front
> regular leg...
>
> Fixed: better? Worse? Can someone tell me how to add things to flick
> rgroup?
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MUCH better, I like it a lot now. :) As for Flickr, I don't know as I don't
use it, sorry. :(

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Need Help with new Lynx wallpaper, also advice.

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On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 4:04 AM, Saleel Velankar  wrote:

> I found myself with unexpected time, and I fleshed out an idea for a
> wallpaper. see attached png. Heavily influenced/insprired by imrik on da.
> Pure svg :)
>
> What do you think? I worked off a wikimedia commons image. I rather like
> the version number text, but I am unsure whether that is allowed for
> wallpaper submissions to the flickr pool. What do you think numbers/no
> numbers/alternate text? I also have no idea of how to add this to the flickr
> pool.
>
> If there is a lot of interest in modding this, I will make a wiki page.
> Are we using the ubuntu-artists group on da now?
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I think, in this case at least, the numbers add a nice positionally
contrasting touch, and really don't call attention to themselves like many
other wallpapers. The lynx itself overall looks very good, but the front paw
looks a bit thick compared to the others, while the tail looks relatively
thin and short compared to how I would think this would look. Both of these
could just be a problem with it having a sort of 2D look whereas the bigger
and smaller limbs are meant to look 3D, but these were what stood out the
most for me.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Flickr - What is the desire of this group?

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On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Haymaker  wrote:

> If it's filesize issues you're worried about on the Wiki, we could use an
> external dedicated image hosting site like imgur (which 
> the owner says is an example
> of code re use , which could be open source
> stuff but I'm not sure and I'm too lazy to look into it.)
>
>
It's not file size that is the issue, but that the wiki itself locks up
after a certain number of images are loaded, reguardless of file size.
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Flickr - What is the desire of this group?

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On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 9:54 AM, j_baer  wrote:

>
> Some may question why the wiki is not good enough.
>  <https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art>
>

I'm not an official member of the art team by any means, but I can answer
this question at least. The wiki isn't good enough because after a certain
number of images are loaded on a page, it refuses to load any more. Before
Flickr, near the end of the release cycle, new submissions would be unable
to be viewed.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Lucid Alpha Wallpaper.

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On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Saleel Velankar  wrote:

> A bit ago, Ken thought we might be able to do different wallpapers for
> alpha/betas. Is that dead, or still limping along or what?
>
> I think it would be nice, if we could try the embedded effect for the next
> wall. Here is an alpha test. A cookie for anyone that can figure how to do
> this in inkscape.
>
> two layers>> bottom one black with grain merge >> top one white with soft
> light.
>
> Could use some gentle blur, but just a test really.
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> If you wouldn't mind sending me a version with just the outline of the lynx
head on a transparent/white background, I should be able to get that effect,
as I actually use similar techniques for getting something similar to a
gradient mesh. :D

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Open week, ask Mark

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On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 7:48 AM, Saleel Velankar  wrote:

> I bet they wait until gnome3 to take advantage of the new gtk theme stuff.
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I wonder if they WILL create a new GTK theme, or just port the old one to
GTK3. :|

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Font Manager - Gnome

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On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 5:30 AM, Jerry Casiano wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I'm not new to Ubuntu, but I'm not very familiar with the community, so I'm
> posting this here in the hope that some of the members of this list might
> find this application interesting or useful, and possibly even suggest that
> it be included in the repositories.
> It would be nice for users to be able to install it through normal channels
> and not have to keep up with updates or deal with unsigned packages.
>
> While still incomplete, I feel that it's at a point now where it's actually
> acceptable for an average desktop user. Anyone interested can grab the .deb
> or source from
>
> http://code.google.com/p/font-manager/
>
> But please keep in mind that this app is very young still and I am NOT an
> experienced developer. ;-)
>
> That said, comments, opinions, criticism are always very welcome.
>
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> One feature which I find all font managers outside of OSX's is the ability
to view fonts from a folder besides the .fonts or /usr/share/fonts folder.
Why would I need this? I keep most of my fonts outside of the default
folders so they aren't loaded when an app starts, as I have a ton of them
and it makes load times skyrocket. If you could implement that feature, that
would make my life SO much easier than what I am having to do currently
(split my fonts into 8 alternative .fonts folders and rename each one to go
through the fonts).

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Introduction new Ubuntu user with gfx design experience

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On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Silver  wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I installed a desktop version of Ubuntu on my pc yesterday so i am very
> green to Ubuntu.
> But after some hours getting used to the new layout etc i really saw the
> great potential of Ubuntu!
> Still snooping around all the great apps and programs that are free and
> open source, installed some programs already but still looking for some
> that i use on xp(yes sorry i do own a copy of win xp)but that i would
> love to run in Ubuntu.
>
> But i do have over 10 years experience with graphics, designing in 2d
> and 3d on my computer.
> My tool of the trade are a wacom tablet, ps cs4, 3dmax, poser, bryce.
> I run my own website at darkdesign.eu where i share a wide range of
> resources.
> But you can also find my work at silver-.deviantart.com.
> Or you might come across my work some where else on the Internet
>
> I would defiantly want to spend some of my time designing something for
> Ubuntu and getting to know this new OS better.
> So if there is any interest, great project or something else i might be
> able to assist let me know.
>
> Cheers,
> Paul "Silver" Ripmeester
>
>
>
>
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The deviantart link doesn't work.

Also, I recommend you look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork to get a feel
for what the Artwork team does. Please note it does NOT do default artwork,
that is the responsibility of Canonical's hired artists. It does stuff for
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Turrican theme

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On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 7:08 AM, Lucazade  wrote:

>
> Hi all,
>
> I have submitted a new theme called Turrican in the Incoming Artwork Wiki
>
> It is my attempt to get a clean and easy on the eyes theme for the Ubuntu
> desktop
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Turrican
>
> Screenshots:
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Turrican?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=Schermata.png
>
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Turrican?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=Schermata-1.png
>
> hope you like it!
> All suggestions are welcome.
>
> Regards,
> Luca
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I like, but the tabs don't feel like they fit with the rest of the theme, or
at least something bothers me about the tabs. Overall this GTK theme is very
clean, though, and with the right window border could be very professional
looking. The current window border provides too little color IMO.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Karmic boot and login - proposed designs

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On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Caleb Sawtell wrote:

> wow please no not the brown! I thought they were getting rid of brown
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 9:49 PM, Thorsten Wilms  wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 18:14 +0100, Mat Tomaszewski wrote:
>>
>> > The second iteration can be viewed here
>> >
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Boot/Demo#Ubuntu%20Karmic%20boot%20demo%20and%20proposed%20GDM%20theme%20%E2%80%93%20Iteration%202
>>
>> As also placed on the wiki:
>>
>> Examples of options I would explore based on Iteration 2:
>>
>>
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Boot?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=iteration_2_tw_splash.png
>>
>> * CoF with colors to make things friendlier, livelier and to stay
>> consistent with most occurrences of the logo.
>> * Hue variations on the background to break away from stifling
>> monochromaticity.
>> * Less pronounced lighting effect to give the boxes appearing on the
>> background more room to breath. This avoids distraction.
>>
>>
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Boot?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=iteration_2_tw_list.png
>>
>> * Uniform box without offset inner area. Also no alternating item
>> backgrounds. Avatar images and spacing are more than sufficient for
>> separation.
>> * Subtle gradient to establish a connection between background and list
>> box.
>> * Selected item bg not harsh-white, but toned down.
>> * 3 separate areas on the bottom instead of one bar.
>> * Login options aligned with list. Also means large distance between the
>> bottom items.
>> * Toned down Accessibility, Power and Login Options to make them step
>> behind the list a bit. No glow, could be used on hover, though.
>>
>> Please try to consider each option in separation.
>>
>> Source (SVG with linked screenshots):
>>
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Boot?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=iteration_2_tw.tar.bz2
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Have any official sources stating that? ;)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Images on the wiki don't show up / surge protection

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On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 1:50 AM, Thorsten Wilms  wrote:

> Hi!
>
> As some people noticed, the backgrounds pages on our wiki sometimes load
> with a number of the last images missing.
>
> This was already part of the reason for the default/abstract/photo
> split, but now it reached a point, where I never get to see everything
> on
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Backgrounds/Extra_Photo
>
> This is due to the wiki's "surge protection". You will even be told so
> if you try to open one of the full size images directly after
> (incomplete) loading of the page.
>
> We even lost a contributor because he wanted to use one of those image
> hosters and I didn't allow that because there shall be no holes in the
> wiki in a few months or even a few years.
>
> It's a known issue and I already talked with Kenneth and Matthew Nuzum,
> but I want to make this new statement official:
>
> It seems there is no easy fix, but sheesh, is that ever ridiculous and
> annoying. I did set up the background pages and kept an eye on them, but
> I will not continue to do so and not lift a finger in this area for the
> next cycle, unless this issue is resolved.
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How about we require some demo art first before you submit something? To me
it seems every Tom, Dick, and Harry that use Ubuntu take their pictures and
post them there, even though many of them don't even follow the color
scheme.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Gimp Splashes

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On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Mads Rosendahl  wrote:

> > Hi all,
> >
> > Today I've made two splashes to replace that ugly one from the default
> > gimp installation. They are not something that professional but I
> > decided to share them with you ;)
> >
> > You could install them by creating a 'splashes' folder in ~/.gimp-2.6
> > and pasting one (or several and they will display in turn each time you
> > start gimp) of the images there.
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Anton
> Great work - I like the newwave one best ;-)
>
> I also created my own Jaunty style GIMP splash (attached) and one for
> OpenOffice (http://anotherubuntu.blogspot.com/2009/07/random-artwork.html
> ).
>
>
>
>
>
> Best regards
>
> //Mads Rosendahl (MadsRH)
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I love that, but could you remove the Ubuntu logo/text? I would like to use
that, but on Arch. :)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] newbie with a new old icon

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On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Galan Montgomery wrote:

> Hi, I've been following this list for awhile now and I figured it might be
> time to participate a bit. I have to say that Breathe, even in it's
> unfinished state, is easily one of the best looking icon sets out there.
> That said, one icon in particular has been bothering me for ages: go-home. I
> guess I have a pet-peeve against silhouette-style home icons. They're just
> too... empty.
>
> Anyways, I'm not much of an artist, but a month or so ago I decided to
> modify Daniel's icon a bit--give it a bit more detail. I've dabbled with it
> on-and-off since then, and I think I finally have something worth showing
> off. As a newbie, I'm not quite comfortable adding it to the submission
> wiki, so I've included it as an attachment. Let me know what you guys think.
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That is very, very nice! I like it a lot. Perhaps the outline could be
thicker for the smaller sizes, but other than that great work!

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Re styling the Logo, Circle of Friends 2009

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On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Chris Tooley  wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Steve Dodier wrote:
> > I don't think the current official logo is that out-dated... Breaking
> > building is extremely dangerous for a big company, and the logo is the
> first
> > part of branding. People, with the new logo, may think that this is
> > _another_ Ubuntu and not give it trust.
> >
> > Also, even if the logo is damn sexy, its assymetry gave me the thought
> that
> > every of the 3 humans on the logo was embrassing the one on his right but
> > rejecting the one on his left. That's not really a "circle of friends"
> > anymore ;)
> >
> > I hope your logo will be used, but i dont think the official logo should
> be
> > replaced for a good 3-10 years.
>
> Hey all, I've made an SVG, please excuse me if I'm not supposed to
> attach it in a mailing list but I don't really have any other place to
> put it :) Unless I do and I just don't know it...?
>
> I've had to take some minor liberties in order to make sure it's a
> uniform and consistent design, with arcs that are actually based upon
> ellipses.  I basically just did some cutting with some skewed spheres
> and rotated them to the approx. positions.
>
> the colours are official RGB ubuntu colours as per:
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Official
> Obviously this isn't my original artwork so I'll just say I converted
> to SVG pro bono ruski publico ;)  the original artist has full
> discretion over the copyright.
>
> Let me know what you think :)
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Am I the only one who things this looks like a saw blade rather than it
looking like people? :-/

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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Boot Experience in Karmic

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On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Mat Tomaszewski <
mat.tomaszew...@canonical.com> wrote:

> Merk wrote:
> > I see the mention of solid colors. Given as I've never worked on such a
> > thing.  What are some of the other limitations to the graphics such as
> color
> > depth, resolution, and fonts?
>
> In KMS-powered pieces (disk check, encrypted disk, initial splash
> screen) we're limited to the use of simple gradients (vertical,
> horizontal) or solid colors (full color palette is available, not only
> 256 like in the current Usplash implementation). We can also render text
> properly using the default system font.
>
> The new splash screen and os-switcher will run on top of X server so
> there are no limitations as far a colors or fonts are concerned.
>
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So is the new graphical boot basically going to be like RHGB?
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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] wiki/release for Karmic

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On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Cory K.  wrote:

> daniel planas armangue wrote:
> > I have updated the wiki with all the icons that we need to reach the 1.0
> > release.
> >
>
> Cool.
>
> > Congratulations Sebastian by the end of the devices! (I deleted the
> > category of the wiki)
> >
>
> :)
>
> > with all the artists together, we can get the release before karmik
> > koala!
>
> I want to stress that this is *not* a goal. We will take icons as they
> come and if they fit. *If* we reach 1.0 in time for Karmic great. But, I
> don't think we will get there as we need a mass review soon. We're
> letting icons get in that don't quite fit Sebastien's style or still
> need work.
>
> We will have a review soon. More to come. Stay tuned.
>
>
> -Cory K.
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The problem I forsee with waiting too long past Karmic (and indeed 10.04)
would be that we run up against GNOME 3 coming out. This could mean that we
would have to do major repackaging/remaking of many icons, and get rid of
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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Sorry

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On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Chris Tooley  wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Cory K. wrote:
> > Chris Tooley wrote:
> >> Doesn't the wiki have versioning?
> >
> > It does.
> >
> >> Or does that not work with attachments?
> >
> > Correct.
> >
> > Please do not top post.
> >
> >
> > -Cory K.
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> Apologies regarding top post. I use gmail and there isn't a way as far
> as I know to set it to default to bottom post - unless someone can
> tell me of a plugin or something?
>
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I just delete the top two lines using the delete key, then use ctrl+end to
get to the end of the e-mail. That works for me. ;)
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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Folder Icon

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On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 7:45 PM, mac_v  wrote:

> Cory K. wrote:
>
> >
> > It's because it lacks perspective.
> >
>
> Exactly... i tried adding the perspective effect , but still havent
> figured it out how to trigger that effect...[every time it keeps saying
> it needs a second set of 4nodes or some other error!]tried reading the
> online manual but still didnt figure it out.
>
> tried asking in the the irc, but seems noone uses it :(  ...
> hope i catch u when u are logged in... or is it easy to explain via mail?
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Ah, perspective on Inkscape. I've used it. What you need to do is draw a
trapezoid with the pen, starting from the bottom left corner (if I remember
correctly) going to the bottom right, etc, in the shape of the perspective
you want. Then select the trapezoid, then the shape you want to use
perspective on, and use the perspective plugin (might have to reverse the
order, I can't remember). Keep in mind that perspective only works on one
object at a time, which is why it is rarely used.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Karmic backgrounds

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On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 12:51 AM, Mads Rosendahl  wrote:

> Besides the 11 photo wallpapers I've added to
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Backgrounds#MadsRH's<https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Backgrounds#MadsRH%27s>
> Photo Collection
>
> I've just added an abstract background
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Backgrounds#MadsRH
> wallpapers
>
>
>
>
> Not sure about the color. I will try to make an .SVG file so the user
> can change the color.
>
>
>
>
> Best regards
> Mads Rosendahl (MadsRH)
>
> http://anotherubuntu.blogspot.com
> www.behance.net/madsrh123
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I don't like the logo, it not only shouldn't be used (Ubuntu doesn't like
branding) but also looks too rough for me (though, from a stylistic
standpoint, this would probably go great with what Ubuntu Studio has going
on for wallpapers).

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Human skin 1.0 "air is near"

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On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:07 AM, daniel planas armangue <
daniplana...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Human skin submision updated to 1.0.
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Human%20Skin
>
> pd: please i need help to redesign metacity, if you have ideas or can
> help with programing send me an mail.
>
> Thanks
>
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I never liked that window border, and I still don't like it. It just seems
gross to me. :(

Also, if you want to redesign metacity, I suggest go straight to te source
and tell the devs what you want, they may be accommodating or they may just
tell you to get lost, but at least you tried.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] plz help

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On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 4:00 AM, somerand  wrote:

>
> Okay, i have been using linux for about 2 years, and i would like to help
> with the artwork.
> Is this the right place?
> Do i just put images of my artwork in posts?
> Thanks
> btw attached is a 'smoothed' ubuntu logo that i made in 30min in blender.
> http://www.nabble.com/file/p23572671/ubuntucurved.jpg
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One thing to note, though, is that one of the wallpaper guidelines is to use
very little branding. That means no logo, no "ubuntu" text, etc. They are
more focused on nice looking than branding. :)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] extra wallpaper package for Karmic

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On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Dylan McCall  wrote:

> On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 14:13 +0200, Kenneth Wimer wrote:
> > Other operating systems offer an extra selection of desktop
> > backgrounds to their users. Often they are based on different "themes"
> > typically applied to photography (nature, for instance).
> >
> >
> >
> > For Karmic we would like to include a set of high quality desktop
> > backgrounds which are organized according to a predefined set of
> > adjectives which describe emotional atmospheres, slogans (so to speak)
> > for the way an image makes you feel.
> >
> >
> >
> > In order to accomplish this we call on anyone and everyone to submit
> > images which are freely licensed and follow the guidelines for
> > inclusion.
> >
> >
> >
> > Let me know if you have any ideas for improving this idea, or if you'd
> > like to help coordinate things, etc.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ken
> >
>
> Oops, one other thought while I'm here!
>
> It could be possible to get a wider community of artists
> (particularly ...err, "pros," for lack of a better word) on board if
> they can sign their work. The work still gets a CC or some such license,
> but serves as assured publicity for them since the signature is more
> than just metadata. I have a hunch that, done tastefully, it could even
> look pretty darn cool. For example, if said signature is actually an
> authentic looking handwritten signature.
>
> I uploaded a quick example here with my own horrible signature on it:
> http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/195/wallpapersigned.jpg
>
> In that example I used a web site URL beneath the signature, since of
> course my feeble signature alone does little for publicity. Realized
> fairly quickly that it could look kind of ugly (like we're trying to
> sell something, or pulled it without permission from the site), so using
> a more natural line of text such as a printed name (or just having the
> signature alone!) may be a better choice. Less likely to change, too.
>
> So there's another idea for the basket!
>
>
> Bye,
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The team doesn't even like their own logo being used in the artwork? What
makes you think they will allow someone else's logo on it? ;)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] gnome-colors icons for karmic koala

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On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 11:30 AM, solaris manzur wrote:

> see how beautiful it looks:
> http://bildr.no/view/406793
>
> beautiful and clean
> http://code.google.com/p/gnome-colors/
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IMO, those icons make the screenshot look more like a toy than a
professional design. The breathe icon set, on the other hand, looks very
real and looks like very professional so far (good job guys!).

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] folder-fix

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On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 10:01 AM, spg76  wrote:

> Good job, Anton, the shadows look much better now.
>
> About the bugs, we talked about it a couple  of months ago and it seems to
> be an issue with libsvg, the library that Ubuntu uses for render SVG files.
> Apparently the Inkscape engine have features that aren't supported in
> libsvg.
> I'm not sure about this and I don't know how to test the files to make a
> proper bug report againts the program with the problem.
> Also, I don't know how the Oxygen artists avoid this issue.
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Those 'bugs' should be cleared up by saving as plain svg instead of inkscape
SVG. The fact is that librsvg follows the normal standard for SVGs, and not
Inkscape's own standards.
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Re: [ubuntu-art] gnome-human icon set from gnome-colors icon pack for karmic koala

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On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 4:51 PM, solaris manzur  wrote:

> these are grate icons sets, and gnome-human is ideal for karmic koala
> http://code.google.com/p/gnome-colors/
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The breathe icon set is being made as the follow up for human. See it in the
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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] modem

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On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 5:38 PM, spg76  wrote:
> I uploaded to the wiki a new icon for modem.
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions#Devices
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The label on top looks out of perspective with the modem. Perhaps it is just me?

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] zoom discuss

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On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 7:00 AM, daniel planas armangue
 wrote:
> i'm working on zoom icons, in that moment i'm working in zoom out, what
> do you thing?
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions
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The edges need some antialiasing. Right now they look a bit jagged.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Concepts outside the scope of theming

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On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Thorsten Wilms  wrote:
> Hi!
>
> We have this new page in Incoming/Karmic:
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/UserInteraction
>
> This is all outside of the scope of theming and artwork in that it would
> require rather deep technical changes. This means that even if
> developers would run with it, it would be very unlikely to be ready for
> Karmic. Experience suggests that nobody will do anything with it.
>
> I suggest we keep concepts of this kind outside of the current cycle's
> Incoming directory.
>
> Should we outright discourage work of this kind? I think no, maybe
> someday we will see something game-changing :)
>
> So I propose to create Incoming/Concepts for this page and similar to
> follow.
>
>
> dael99: Are you reading?
>
> Regarding a single panel, this has be left to the people at Canonical. I
> doubt anyone can offer a new argument here.
>
> Regarding mixing titlebar and menubar, this idea comes up again and
> again. Could work in some cases, but you have to deal with long
> filenames in window titles  and also long menus, so it should be one or
> 2 bars depending on the space required/offered.
>
> A short description and 1 or 2 mockups has never been enough to make
> this happen.
>
>
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If we were to do the titlebar thing, it would require forking both GTK
and Metacity, neither of which should we fork before their respective
major releases get out of the way (Metacity in GNOME 3.0, and GTK
3.0). It would actually probably require us to modify apps themselves,
not metacity, as the apps have to provide their own buttons for a
window border. I think that this would be virtually impossible with
GTK at the moment, even with modification.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Hanso Theme

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On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 5:16 PM, shadowh511  wrote:
> @Smartboy, then install it :D (not intended to be a flame)
>
> it looks good w/o compoziting
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Limited hard drive space. I will leave it at that. ;)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Hanso Theme

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On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 6:52 AM, James Schriver  wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-04-20 at 06:38 -0700, Smartboy wrote:
>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 6:28 AM, James Schriver  wrote:
>> > On Sun, 2009-04-19 at 20:20 -0700, Smartboy wrote:
>> >
>> >> It reminds me of dark chocolate, and now I am craving it. :(
>> >>
>> >> Good work, though! It is a very good job!
>> >>
>> >> One thing from your screenshot, are there two different menubar 
>> >> backgrounds?
>> >>
>> >> smartboy
>> >>
>> >
>> > Thank you very much for a response.  The compression in the .jpeg lost
>> > some detail, but they are both the same.
>> >
>> > http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/12767/screenshot_s32kXx.png
>> >
>> > Thanks again. :)
>> >
>> >
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>> Ah, ok. How does the theme look without compositing? Depending on
>> compositing is still bad right now, as not everyone can use it or want
>> to use it.
>>
>> Smartboy
>>
>
> Looks the same as far as I can see, absent blur
> (gnome-terminal/notify-osd) and transparency.
>
> http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/12768/screenshot_4ZY47B.png
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Just making sure. I don't use GNOME, so I can't test. :(

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Hanso Theme

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On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 6:28 AM, James Schriver  wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-04-19 at 20:20 -0700, Smartboy wrote:
>
>> It reminds me of dark chocolate, and now I am craving it. :(
>>
>> Good work, though! It is a very good job!
>>
>> One thing from your screenshot, are there two different menubar backgrounds?
>>
>> smartboy
>>
>
> Thank you very much for a response.  The compression in the .jpeg lost
> some detail, but they are both the same.
>
> http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/12767/screenshot_s32kXx.png
>
> Thanks again. :)
>
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Ah, ok. How does the theme look without compositing? Depending on
compositing is still bad right now, as not everyone can use it or want
to use it.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Hanso Theme

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On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 6:46 PM, James Schriver  wrote:
> I'm in the process of developing a highly usable dark/hybrid theme for
> Karmic.  I've been using the theme for over a week and it's very usable
> in it's current state.
>
> The focus of this theme is to make something a bit different from the
> normal hybrid theme and demonstrate that brown can be beautiful while
> still saying "Hey, is that Ubuntu?".  A majority of all dark gtk themes
> is that a majority are black/grey.  This theme is a dark rich brown with
> pronounced gradients on the toolbars.  This may appear a bit obtrusive
> to some but the effects will grow.  A majority of sites (Google Docs,
> Sprint, etc) use this type of gradient on their toolbars and it does
> give a modern dimensional appeal to it.
>
> Another common issue I had was with darker themes, is that they looked
> highly detailed with contrast during the day, but as the day grew on and
> the lighting environment darkened, the dark themes became a bit bland
> and washed out.  I seem to have managed to mitigate that issue, at least
> for my eyes.
>
> The metacity theme is a modification of DiMetacity, by Ken Vermette, one
> the most talented artists to work with the Ubuntu community,
>
> I will make a Wiki page when I have some time, but overall it's mostly
> complete.  All trouble applications seems to work as well.
>
> Thanks to SiDi for the suggestion of darkening the menu_items and
> lessening the gradients on the menubar.  This proved to be a usability
> issue over time as the window border was not as pronounced.  The menubar
> is now striped utilising murrine.
>
> Please report any bugs / suggestions.
>
> The code can be found at:
>
> https://code.launchpad.net/~dashua/+junk/Karmic-Themes
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It reminds me of dark chocolate, and now I am craving it. :(

Good work, though! It is a very good job!

One thing from your screenshot, are there two different menubar backgrounds?

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] input-gaming

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On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 1:12 PM, spg76  wrote:
> I uploaded to the wiki a new icon for input-gaming.
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions
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I like it. :)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Mandating usage of free tools.

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On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Cory K.  wrote:
> This is something I thought about before but was reminded of so here goes.
>
>
> I believe that *all* submissions for official art or projects under the
> art team be created with free tools.
>
> No more wallpapers done with Photoshop and the like for instance. All
> submissions done with free formats also. All images would be PNG/SVG.
>
> There's something flawed about promoting a free OS and creating it's
> look with another. (Win/OSX) My personal philosophy is "use the right
> tool for the job" and our tools are plenty capable.
>
> Might be a bit of zealotry but that's my proposal.
>
>
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I edited https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Documentation/Software to
include the results of this discussion here. Read through it and see
if it is a good compromise.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] karmic koala

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On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 9:34 PM, bret sheppard  wrote:
> Hi guys, Here's another koala background that looks canvasy.
>
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Perhaps make them brown instead of green? That way it blends into
Ubuntu's default color scheme.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Art council/open team

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On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Cory K.  wrote:
> We are a listless bunch. Very little direction and nothing to hold us
> together. (sorry to be critical. I think we need more of it)
>
> I was rolling around the idea of an art council to set rules and
> guidelines. Define what we are and what we hope to achieve. A 4 member
> group or so.
>
> But besides that, what would it do?
>
> Hell, I even question if this "team" of ours should be open and is a
> moderated team of old-timers and knowledgeable folks something we should
> have? All very tricky. Should anyone be on the art team? Might hurt
> somebody's feelings but I often wonder "How are you and why is your
> opinion important?" Now this is not something I think of when someone
> takes the time to detail out *why* they have their opinion. It's the
> crazy 1-liners like "That's ugly." or "I don't like brown." So!? Ok. Bit
> of a rant that one. :P
>
> So who are we? What's our future?
>
> I'm just kinda throwing this out there. Maybe I'm nuts.
>
>
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Well, a page to define what we are not might be nice. IE, a page that
explains that we do not develop for the default Ubuntu artwork (that
is Canonical's art team's job), but for the community package. I think
that giving the impression that the 'team' (if you would call it that)
was open is actually in line with Ubuntu's philosophy, rather than it
giving the impression that you have to be some Picasso in order to
join the team. Yes, we do get the bad, but what is the good without
the bad?

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Mandating usage of free tools.

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On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 7:14 PM, Cory K.  wrote:
> davidholland1...@gmail.com wrote:
>> you all have valid points but for me at least, using Gimp, Inkscape,
>> or Qcad does not come as easy as using Photoshop, Illustrator, or Autocad
>> and since i am a artist not a developer or a programmer, i cant change
>> the behavior of any of the programs mentioned to make them more like
>> what i am used to photoshop .etc
>>
>> i simply dont have time to learn a parallel program that may or may
>> not work as well as non-opensource soft but preforms the same tasks.
>
> I would honestly wager to sat you can do most of what you do in
> GIMP/Inkscape. Admittedly it takes work. But you, like many others,
> don't want to change. So it's up to us as a team to decide whether this
> is something we want to accept.
>
> I'd love to see some of your AutoCAD work. :) Damn shame they aren't
> making a Linux port with all the work they're doing on the Mac one.
>

So are we, as a team, going to criticize others of our team because
they are tied to one program? I thought freedom was not only freedom
in what you can choose on Linux, but freedom to use what you want. By
trying to force people to use only open source software, we are not
being free in all senses of the word like Ubuntu wants, and are
actually turning into want we are trying to fight against (if you
would call it that, which I wouldn't).

>> that said i think saving in formats that are free and easly used by
>> all would serve us well.
>>
>
> Still something that needs discussed.
>

Does it need to be discussed? I think that, since most files can be
saved in freely available formats by most standard programs, then it
should work fine.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Mandating usage of free tools.

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On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Cory K.  wrote:
> This is something I thought about before but was reminded of so here goes.
>
>
> I believe that *all* submissions for official art or projects under the
> art team be created with free tools.
>
> No more wallpapers done with Photoshop and the like for instance. All
> submissions done with free formats also. All images would be PNG/SVG.
>
> There's something flawed about promoting a free OS and creating it's
> look with another. (Win/OSX) My personal philosophy is "use the right
> tool for the job" and our tools are plenty capable.
>
> Might be a bit of zealotry but that's my proposal.
>
>
> -Cory K.
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I disagree. I think that if it works for you, why should you change?
Most people who use Photoshop do so because they are used to it, and
when they switch over to GIMP they can't create as good art because
they don't know how to use it as well. It could take them a while to
master the new tools. Is it really worth it for trying to contribute
to a free project?

If we restrict choice in this manner, I think the backlash will be
less art from "capable" artists (ie, professionals).

This is my opinion, take it with a grain of salt. ;)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] user-desktop

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On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 4:44 PM, spg76  wrote:
> I uploaded to the wiki a new icon for user-desktop.
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions
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I think you should make the panels thinner. As it is they look way too thick.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Retreat from Ubuntu Artwork

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On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 4:14 AM, Thorsten Wilms  wrote:
> Hi!
>
> With the possible exception of some work for The Fridge, I will pull out
> of all ubuntu-related artwork!
>
> I'm worried about the move of dumping brown for Karmic and have been
> less and less satisfied with the distribution.
>
> I'm preparing to join the Fedora artwork community instead, now that it
> seems save to say they will not make another mistake like the artwork
> for 7, which was too imaginative and hence distracting from the cold,
> hard work we all should be doing.
>
> (see http://pthree.org/2009/02/05/ubuntu-vs-fedora-artwork/)
>
> Sadly they have an elitist approach and don't just let everyone in
> before submitting artwork meeting some "quality level", but I'm
> confident I can make it and look past this silly step.
>
> Too bad I didn't finish my wallpaper collection, but I think I can turn
> them all blue for Fedora!
>
> I will miss the short and to-the-point, heart-felt comments we sometimes
> got to enjoy here, but I have to move on.
>
>
> Farewell!
>
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> http://thorwil.wordpress.com/
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Wait a minute, this couldn't be your APRIL FOOL, could it? :o

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] media-flash

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2009/3/29 spg76 :
> I uploaded to the wiki a new icon for media-flash.
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions
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There is something that bugs me about the orange switch on the side of
the card in the 48x48 card. I can't put my finger on it, though.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Creating X11 mouse themes.

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On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Cory K.  wrote:
> How the *hell* do we do this? :)
>
> I have looked around a bit but the reason I pose this here is to
> hopefully get links to put in a central place on the art wiki pages.
>
>
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You can edit and create xcursor themes using gursormaker. Link:
http://gursormaker.sourceforge.net/

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] system-update-install

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On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 7:21 AM, Oliver Scholtz 1  wrote:
> Am Sonntag, den 15.03.2009, 10:49 +0100 schrieb Thorsten Wilms:
>> On Sun, 2009-03-15 at 03:41 +0100, Oliver Scholtz 1 wrote:
>> > Thorsten,
>> >
>> > One solution is ...
>> >
>> > Letting it down in their perspective and correct it from above.
>>
>> Yes, generally making it so that you have optimal angles for at least
>> one edge, rest all in correct perspective, is likely a good idea. As
>> long as it doesn't interfere with the composition, which doesn't seem to
>> be the case here.
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>
> So I fixed it. I let the old one for differencing. Every little change
> entails a lot of changing parameters. So it's better have it always
> right the first time.
> But nobody is perfect ... so the base box was from the sources of
> Oxygen. :)
>
> I think I can continue now with scaling.
>
> Greetings to Germany ;)
>
> Sincerly Oliver Scholtz
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I like it better now. Great job! :)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] system-update-install

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On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Oliver Scholtz 1  wrote:
>
> I uploaded to the wiki a new icon for system-update-install.
> It's a early version open for discussion ;)
>
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions
>
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To me, the CD looks like it is flat against the cardboard box
(something hard to do without the CD rolling away). I would suggest
tilting the CD a bit to make it look more like it is leaning. I like
the Debian logo, though. Perhaps a bit darker? It seems the logo might
not be able to be seen at small sizes.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Package-Manner :)

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On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Oliver Scholtz 1  wrote:
> Am Freitag, den 13.03.2009, 16:47 -0700 schrieb Smartboy:
>> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Oliver Scholtz 1  
>> wrote:
>> > :) I found the source I looked for it in .svg ... pulled from the
>> > Oxygen-Team.
>> >
>> > This will be now the base of my work. :)
>> >
>> > Sincrely Oliver Scholtz
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>>
>> Perhaps put "APT" on the right side of the box? That might look good. :)
>>
>> Smartboy
>>
>
> Thank you for the suggestion, but I try to avoid letters in Icons, so
> you don't read them in small sizes in general.
> Maybe a Ubuntu-Logo on the right side? Or it's to much branding?
>
> Sincerly Oliver Scholtz
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Ubuntu, or even Debian, since technically it is debian's package
management system we are running. :)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Package-Manner :)

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On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Oliver Scholtz 1  wrote:
> :) I found the source I looked for it in .svg ... pulled from the
> Oxygen-Team.
>
> This will be now the base of my work. :)
>
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Perhaps put "APT" on the right side of the box? That might look good. :)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] applications-science

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On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 5:41 PM, spg76  wrote:
> I updated the wiki with a new version for applications-science.
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions
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Looks much better! Nice job on the slight tilt to the top of the flask. :)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] applications-science

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On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 9:35 AM, spg76  wrote:
> I'll refine the one without the cork then, and announce here when I'm done.
> Thank you all for the feedback.
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The problem I have with the bottle is that the top is at eye level,
but the liquid is tilted too far to your eye, so it makes the icon
look weird. Perhaps make the top of the jar tilted a bit?

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Re: [ubuntu-art] DarkSuit

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On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 8:47 AM, James Schriver  wrote:
> This is another theme I'm currently working on.  Let me know if this is
> even worth pursuing on the wiki?  My theming days are slowly slipping
> away from me.  I'll continue to hack at them, but I feel pretty
> comfortable with the few current themes I've made that are in heavy
> rotation.
>
> http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=105302&d=1236180483
>
> http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=105303&d=1236180483
>
> http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=105304&d=1236180483
>
> Thanks for all your feedback.
>
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I like it. A good combination of Dust and professionalism. Kind of
reminds me of wet and dry clay. :)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] newbie: apply theme without logout

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On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 2:30 PM, David Stuart  wrote:
> All I can think of is hitting alt+f2 and running metacity --update
>
> On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 12:26 PM, geng wang  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Sorry in advance if I should have looked around somewhere else before
>> posting.
>>
>> This is my first attempt to change a theme -> make my own theme. I
>> began with directly editing gtkrc file in my Human theme
>> dirctory(tooltip color, fg_color, etc.). I'd like to see the changes I
>> made and I have no clue how to do it, correctly. What I did was log
>> out and relog in. Another way I found that I could do this is to go to
>> "Appearance" and "reselect" Human, which force the engine to update.
>>
>> So I am sure there is better way to do it. So how do I see the changes
>> I made on an gtkrc file, "instantly" or "interactively"? Is there any
>> command, or tools?
>>
>> Any lead to some step by step tutorials would be helpful. Short ones
>> would be nice!;)
>>
>> Thanks again!
>>
>> Geng
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I think the Geng is trying to update the GTK theme. There is no way to
update the theme without restarting the program(s) which use the theme
that I know of. I usually just do as you say (reselect the theme which
forces it to update).

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Top-posting gmail users

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On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 7:57 AM, Cory K.  wrote:
> Joseph wrote:
>> Also can someone tell me how not to top post whatever that means, since I
>> think i got screamed at for that before.
>
> You pretty much just move your cursor from where it starts to the bottom
> of the page.
>
> Worked that way last time I use gmail through the web anyway. I use
> Thunderbird now. I'm sure pretty regular web-gmail users could chime in.
>
> There should also be a way to remove the footer the list adds. (I wonder
> if we shouldn't just turn that off altogether?)
>
>
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Just delete the top two lines above the gmail quote and use the "ctrl"
"end" key combo. That will make it so you don't top post anymore.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Impression Metacity Updates

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On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 10:36 AM, John Baer  wrote:
> I adjusted the Impression metacity controls to reflect the comments I
> have received and created a wiki page to show the changes.
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Jaunty/Impression/Metacity
>
> IMO the current effort is very functional but I am sure there are other
> good designs which would add value.
>
> If you have the time and would like to contribute please post your
> effort to the wiki page or this list.
>
> As always comments are welcome.
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
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Sorry to say this, but it looks too much like a Mac, imo. I want
Ubuntu to look different, not similar to another OS.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] "Start here" button

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On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Saleel  wrote:
> Ryan Prior wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Cory K. > <mailto:coryis...@ubuntu.com>> wrote:
>>
>> You should keep better track of the development. ;)
>>
>> >From the SuperEarlyShouldn'tBeDoingThisIt'sTooSoonRelease thread:
>> > I also added my start-here icon just as a placeholder 'till
>> something
>> > better comes along. ;)
>>
>>
>> Ah. I do vaguely remember that now, but I was shocked when I saw the
>> placeholder start showing up in mockups and screenshots.
>>
>>
>> And where were you with the 2 or 3 other calls for a start here image?
>>
>>
>> I do not think that my submission is up to the quality of other things
>> we've seen here. However, when I started to think about how to
>> re-stimulate discussion on what "start here" image to use, I figured
>> it wouldn't hurt to show what I made. If I can get it to look more
>> "breathe"-styled, I will indeed put the 128px icon on the submissions
>> page.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
> http://www.piccdrop.com/images/1235095736.png
>
> A quick idea-purge to show what I think it should look like.
>
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I did an even quicker pic based on your idea in Inkscape of that idea.
I think that making the Ubuntu logo look like that would be good, just
make it a little more like the Ubuntu logo. Anyway, here is my pic:
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2rnyerq&s=5

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Power option icons

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On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 8:25 AM, spg76  wrote:
> Well, I made the whole set.
> You can take a look at:
> http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/113489/system-shutdown.png
> http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/113489/system-restart.png
> http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/113489/system-suspend.png
> http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/113489/system-log-out.png
> http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/113489/system-lock-screen.png
> http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/113489/system-switch-user.png
> http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/113489/system-suspend-hibernate.png
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I have a question (up and coming graphics artist here). Did you use
any clip paths in those buttons? I would think that using clip paths
and blurred gradients for the outside around the button could make it
look better. If I had the SVGs, I could play around a bit to see if I
can get what I am thinking to work. Would you mind sending them to me
as well as to Cory? :)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Miu Theme

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On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 3:34 PM, J.S.  wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I just uploaded my Miu theme to Ubuntu/Artwork/Incoming.
>
> This theme is based on somewhat on the Impression theme by John Baer
> with a considerable amount of modifications and code reduction.  The
> colors should be unified and easy on the eyes.
>
> The color should give a brushed copper feel thanks to the options in the
> murrine engine.  This theme utilizes the latest murrine snapshot (r138),
> which will hopefully land in Jaunty.  This is the initial release, so
> testing is appreciated.  The metacity theme is modified by lucazade for
> his Edge theme and works well with Miu.
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Jaunty/Miu
>
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This made me go WOW! It just feels so... right, imo. The only thing I
don't like is the color of the selected radio/checkmark/button and
unfocused tab text. It shouldn't be orange, but perhaps a light gray.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] SansDune

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On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 7:36 AM, Saleel  wrote:
> Something I have been working on.
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Jaunty/SansDune
>
> I think the kubuntu version will have to be called SansWave. (or quite
> possible Sin(Wave), heh heh...) I am working on a color mod for it.
>
> Critique, comments, suggestions all welcome, as always.
>
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I think, instead of the layered semi-trasnparent shapes, you should do
only a few and use gradients. Right now it doesn't represent a sand
dune as much something like a shell.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] drive-removable-media

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On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Cory K.  wrote:
> This icon is commonly used for unmounted media. Currently, I just have a
> normal drive there with top details removed.
>
> Sebastien, what do you think bout using this image for an unmounted
> drive? I like the idea of seeing the innards when unmounted.
> http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/8590/driveharddiskxo2.png
>
> If we like this concept, we should redraw the icon because I can't find
> a SVG of this one. I also don't know if we're happy with the one we have
> now. So generally, I'm wondering if we agree on the concept. :)
>
>
> -Cory K.
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Are we planning for the icon to represent the current standard or the
future? I think that we should use an SSD drive instead of a spinning
disk drive since, inevitably, the spinning disk will become obsolete
when the SLC SSDs are available in bigger sizes and become cheaper.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] My background submission.

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On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 9:09 PM, jacob Mesick  wrote:

>  I found out about ubuntu about 3 months ago and I am already hooked I got
> ubuntu server on my server. I love it so much, I thought I would try my hand
> at backgrounds for the next Ubuntu Version to show my appreciation. Thank
> you I really like Ubuntu. I installed it as a dual boot on my main machine
> and I am learning new thing each day. I'm not all that good at programming
> but I am an artist so here goes hope you like this. I have noticed that I
> can have differnt backgrounds on different work spaces so I mad this
> background that spans multiple work spaces. But if you want it on one 1280 X
> 1024 space I've got that too. I tried to keep the with the Ubuntu color
> schemes. I have a whole bunch of these kinds of abstracts on my site so if
> you like one design over another just tell me and I will make the change
> accordingly. I am very facinated by what you are all doing here.If I can
> offer my art up in any way for the ubuntu cause I'm there man(or woman) just
> ask.
>
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Remove the branding on all of them and it may be good. :)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] preferences-system and preferences-other

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On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 8:39 AM, spg76  wrote:

> I uploaded to the wiki new icons for preferences-system and
> preferences-other.
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions
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AMAZING JOB! I actually had to second guess myself, it looks so real,
especially for an SVG.

Very well done.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu Background

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On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 4:10 AM, Patrick Eigensatz <
patrick.eigens...@live.de> wrote:

>  Hi !
>
> Patrick
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Colors don't say Ubuntu to me IMO.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu Backgrounds, Ubuntu Art Digst Volume 43

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On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 5:39 AM, Patrick Eigensatz <
patrick.eigens...@live.de> wrote:

>  Hello,
> Thats my new Background !
>
> Send your Backgrounds to
>
> ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com
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Too plain, IMO. Not enough style for now. =)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Mr.Bun and AJchamlike

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On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Saleel Velankar  wrote:

> Hello,
> I have some free time to continue working on my wallpaper submissions:
> Mr. Bun and Ajchamlike.
> Please reply back with any criticism/ critique/ things that should be
> done differently. I am open to all ideas, and each revision seems to
> teach me something new about inkscape. Both submissions can be found at
> the wiki. (
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Jaunty/AlphaBackgrounds)
>
> Mr Bun direct link(big image):
> (
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Jaunty/AlphaBackgrounds?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=rabbit3_16_10.png
> )
>
> Ajchamlike:
> (
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Jaunty/AlphaBackgrounds?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=ajcpreview.png
> )
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Saleel V
>
> Ps. First time posting on a mailing list.
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I love the Mr. Bun background. It gets my vote. [?]

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Human-Reprise

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On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Sulley Mansford  wrote:

> I uploaded a revision to the Human theme on the wiki.  This theme is an
> overall desktop experience and is quite functional at this stage in
> development.  This retains much of the original feel of the Human Theme, but
> gives an overall refreshing feeling to a fairly old and established theme.
> I realize a majority of the whole "Desktop Experience" is quite early in the
> development stages, but it is also quite stable (including Murrine, the
> Breathe Icon Set, and GNOME-Do (Docky) and usable.
>
> This entire experience including the theme, wallpaper, font, panels, dock,
> and compositing manager (Compiz-Fusion) rival the experience of Mac OSX and
> Windows 7, which I have installed on another partition.  I can not stay in
> Windows 7 longer than 10 minutes without losing the warmness that Ubuntu
> provides.  This entire experience feels very warm and natural.  This
> included with the new notification system should make for a very competitive
> desktop.
>
> Any input will be appreciated.
>
> Thanks to Ubuntu Developers, for an amazing OS, Cimi, for the incredible
> murrine engine, the team at GNOME-Do for that lovely little Docky, and the
> team creating the Breathe Icon Set.  This is evidence what the open source
> community is capable of.
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Jaunty/Human-Reprise
>
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I think that if you change the window border (to perhaps the one that dark
room or shiki colors uses), it will look great! Right now, though, it
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Re: [ubuntu-art] A new wallpaper

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On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Giuseppe Pennisi wrote:

> I maded a my concept of wallpaper for Jaunty.
> I uploaded it in to the wiki (Giupenni's Wallpaper).
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Jaunty/AlphaBackgrounds
> We can also to use a brown color more dark.
> What do you think?
>
> I also updated wormhole theme with some bug fix and a bit modifies to
> titlebar:
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Jaunty/Wormhole
>
> Bye,
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Can you get rid of the texture on that wallpaper? I personally think it
would look better without it.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] preferences-desktop

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On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 6:59 AM, spg76  wrote:

> I updated the wiki with a new version for preferences-desktop with a couple
> of knobs and a peak meter as Cory suggestted.
> Also I retouched the highlights a little.
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions
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That would look great if it were for the volume manager. :)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] New to the Thread

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On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 8:29 PM, Brian May  wrote:

> Greetings,
>
> I've been subscribed for a few weeks now, watching all of the dialog go
> on and would like to jump in soon.  I'm a graphic designer by education
> and want to see how I may contribute and have a few questions:
>
> 1.) I'm a Photoshop/Illustrator junky, but want to move into open source
> tools.  What tools are the best for icon creation? (Inkscape, SodiPodi,
> The Gimp etc.)
> 2.) The list is obviously for Ubuntu artwork, what about Kubuntu and the
> others? Is there ongoing icon creation for those?
> 3.) Is this the right place to ask these questions, or is there a doc
> somewhere for newbies to the list?
>
> Thank you so much in advance,
>
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1) I like to use Inkscape, but YMMV. Inkscape came from SodiPodi, btw. Try
them all, see what you like best.
2) I don't think so. But a KDE icon theme could be created from the Breathe
icons once they are made.
3) It is fine to me, though I am not an official opinion in any way. ;)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] new submission for breathe icons: archive-insert-directory

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On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 7:53 PM, Jake Tolbert  wrote:

> I added an icon to the Breathe Submissions 
> wiki<https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions>.
> I added the archive-insert-directory icon. Clearly, the scale's off, and
> it's assembled with pieces from Oxygen (and, iirc, our folder), but I felt
> like getting it out and getting some feedback would be a good kickstart for
> me.
>
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I think that there also needs to be a piece of paper to represent a file
there too, not just a folder. :)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] preferences-desktop

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On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 4:09 AM, spg76  wrote:

> I uploaded to the wiki a new icon for preferences-desktop.
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions
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I like it. :)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Wormhole Theme]A Light Theme - Wiki and Download

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On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Lloyd Kuhnle  wrote:

> Very nice artwork, but perhaps, somewhere in the corner, the word UBUNTU
> may want to be visible.
>
> --
> *From:* Giuseppe Pennisi 
> *To:* Discussion on Ubuntu artwork 
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 18, 2009 4:07:14 PM
> *Subject:* [ubuntu-art] [Wormhole Theme]A Light Theme - Wiki and Download
>
> I have made a wiki page of the theme and archive (gtkrc + metacity
> files) to try it.
>
> I fixed some problem but it is still a Alpha.
>
> For preview, more info, download and try the theme:
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Jaunty/Wormhole
>
> Opinions about my work?
>
> What do you think?
>
> ( If someone wants to partecipate or help to improve the theme is
> welcomed. :-) )
>
> gp
>
> PS: at the moment I used Murrine-SVN of the Intrepid Repository...for
> Jaunty I must used this or in the next release will we use the latest
> Murrine Engine? I think clarify this point is very important.
> In my opinion is better if we can use in Jaunty the latest svn version
> of murrine.
>
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I disagree. I don't like branded wallpapers, and I haven't seen any default
wallpaper yet which was branded.

About the original email though: I like it now better. It looks a little too
flat for me (I like my stuff to look smooth, but not flat). LOVE the
wallpaper though. Looks great! :D

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Re: [ubuntu-art] metacity theme concept

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On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Isaiah Heyer wrote:

> Here is a screenshot of a theme I am working on, a more ubuntuish
> version of my Vrey theme.(http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Vrey
> +2.1?content=97295<http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Vrey+2.1?content=97295>
> )
>
> Does it have any potential.Its certainly brown enough lol.
> I'll attach the theme file if anyone wants it.
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It definately has potential, but it doesn't seem to fit together (scrollbars
are too orange for the window borders, mostly). I would change the window
borders color to make it darker, but thats just me.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] applications-utilities

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On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 6:18 AM, spg76  wrote:

> I updated the wiki with the small sizes for applications-utilities and I
> uploaded a new orange version.
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions
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I like it, good job. :)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] A Light Theme

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On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Giuseppe Pennisi wrote:

> I started to make a light theme for ubuntu.
> I would make a simple and nice theme not dark.
> For metacity I have modified DarkRoom-Metacity a bit but I would also
> change the metacity button.
> This is only the first step, in the next days I will make a wiki page
> and send the gtkrc file to test it.
>
> The screenshoot:
> http://img299.imageshack.us/my.php?image=firstideadh1.png
> http://img397.imageshack.us/my.php?image=firstidea2dt6.png
>
> Opinions about my work?
>
> What do you think?
>
> gp
>
> ps: at the moment I used Murrine-SVN of the Intrepid Repository...for
> Jaunty I must used this or in the next release will we use the latest
> Murrine Engine? I think clarify this point is very important.
> In my opinion is better if we can use in Jaunty the latest svn version
> of murrine.
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I don't like it. It seems too bright to me. Part of that may be the
wallpaper chosen (it contrasts a lot), but it is also the fact that there
isn't a lot of contrast in the theme itself. That is where Dust and NewWave
shine, they balance the light and dark.
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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] applications-utilities

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On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 9:42 AM, spg76  wrote:

> I uploaded to the wiki a new icon for applications-utilities.
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions
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Nice, but the Swiss army knife is trademarked. You'd have to make it a
different color at least. :(

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] applications-system

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On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 11:36 AM, spg76  wrote:

>
>
> 2009/1/14 Smartboy 
>
>> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 10:44 AM, spg76  wrote:
>> Nice. Just an idea, but how about a copper colored gear instead of a steal
>> looking one? I think that may fit better with the overall color scheme.
>>
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> Thanks.
> I made a quick edit and update the wiki with a copper version.
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Nice! I like it! :D

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] applications-system

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On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 10:44 AM, spg76  wrote:

> I uploaded to the wiki a new icon for applications-system.
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions
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Nice. Just an idea, but how about a copper colored gear instead of a steal
looking one? I think that may fit better with the overall color scheme.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] applications-other

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On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 10:39 AM, spg76  wrote:

> I uploaded to the wiki a new icon for applications-other.
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions
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Is it just me, or is that ruler transparent? I think the ruler should look
more solid (as that is what many rulers still are, not translucent but solid
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Re: [ubuntu-art] alpha wallpaper and icon needed

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Great job, Thorston! This wallpaper gets my vote now! :)

On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Thorsten Wilms  wrote:

> Hi!
>
> The positive comments and the work by Tom Wright encouraged me to work a
> bit more on the jackalope sketch, that now comes in 4 versions :)
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Jaunty/AlphaBackgrounds
>
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Re: [ubuntu-art] alpha wallpaper and icon needed

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I've looked through all the submissions so far, and here are my opinions:
*Jackalope Sketch:* Great job, Thorston! This has the best perspective of
all six submissions. With a little editing to make the lines a little finer
(not as rough), and this would be my favorite.
*Oblivians Jaunty Wallpaper:* This one doesn't fit with what I consider the
Ubuntu branding as far as wallpapers go. Plus, I never really liked branding
on the wallpaper level. Seems too much like an advertisement at that point.
*Miffan:* The colors don't really say "Ubuntu" too me. The rabbit's legs
also look a little weird. When I think of a rabbit, I usually think of it as
fluffy, this looks a little scrawny.
*Miffan Edited:* Same problems as above.
*Miffan Mod:* In this one, the rabbit's colors look washed out. Colors fit
better though.
*Miffan R3:* This one is also very good. With no Ubuntu logo, perhaps move
the rabbit to the corner a little. Maybe some color adjustments as well
(looks a *lot* like Feisty's wallpaper, imo).

That is my opinion of each entry. [?]
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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave 0.7.0 Release Candidate Preview

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On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 6:11 AM, Anton Kerezov  wrote:

> Hello everybody,
>
> These days I've been working on the new metacity and the polish of the
> theme. Here is the result:
>
> http://www.piccdrop.com/images/1229782040.png
>
>
> I'd like to hear opinions from you. Is it better or worse?
>
>
> Anton
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This has got to be my favorite release for New Wave. It may even become my
favorite theme (if it was ported to E17, that is [?]). I love it! [?]

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] applications-accessories

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I like, but maybe an orange handle for the scissors instead of black? I like
the black pair better, btw. :)

Smartboy

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> I uploaded to the wiki a couple of icons for applications-accessories.
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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave Question

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On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 9:50 AM, Anton Kerezov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I haven't been writing in the mailing list for some long time but now I
> have PC and Internet connection so I can continue my work on New Wave
> theme. I may not be able to spare as much time as before but the work on
> the theme will continue.
>
> Now I'm working on newer version that is going to have some enchanters
> such as animation-like behaviour of check and option buttons as well as
> better focus system (images). One thing that bothers me and other people
> though is the menubar+titlebar looking too flat or strange. So I'd like
> you to help me with some ideas. I'm thinking of adding some kind of
> texture but I don't know what. Plese share your opinion freely. Every
> word could be the key to some inspiration!
>
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Well, I'm one of those people who thinks that new wave's titlebar looks
strange. I think what would fix it is if you went light to dark with the
gradient, not dark to light. Dark to light intuitively represents a shadow,
and since new wave does this, it makes the titlebar look like its behind the
window, not on the same level as the window. Making it the opposite would
solve this.

Of course, this is my opinion, and I'm a fan of the Dust theme, so take it
with a grain of salt. ;)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Dust Theme modification

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On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 5:39 PM, Victor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi all, I'm not theme developer and this is my first attempt
> I tried to make Dust looks a little bit more consistently and added
> tabs from dustfox(firefox theme) to gnome-terminal & gedit
> http://img296.imageshack.us/my.php?image=terminalik3.png
> http://img20.imageshack.us/my.php?image=geditcm0.png
>
> Want to know your opinion, is it worth to submit changes to dust
> repository and if so how can I do this?
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Are those pixmaps? If so, I don't think they should be submitted, since
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Breathe rhythmbox

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The cone looks out of place in this one. You should add color to other parts
of it to balance it out.

Smartboy

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> I submitted an updated version of the rhythmbox icon with a color cone like
> Thorsten and Cory suggested.
> Also, I fixed most of the aliasing issues.
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Breathe - "Start-Here" image.

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On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 8:46 PM, Cory K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Cory K. wrote:
> > So we need a "start-here" image. It's the one used in the Applications
> menu.
> >
> > Here's the example of the one for Oxygen:
> > http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/5602/startherebd7.png
> >
> > Ours obviously needs to be the Ubuntu logo. SVG:
> >
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Official?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=UbuntuCoF.svg
> >
> > So lets see what you crazy kids can com up with. :)
>
> So we're still looking for submissions on this one.
>
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Well, I came up with a start for one which is based directly off the
concepts of the Oxygen start button. It might not look the best on the panel
yet due to coloring (the logo blends in a little too much with the
background), but its at least something which looks ok in my opinion. It
does need a lot of improvement though, any suggestions? Its posted on the
submission page.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Breathe - "Start-Here" image.

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On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 3:57 AM, Rico Sta. Cruz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

>
>
>
> Smartboy wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 3:25 AM, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> 2008/10/2 Cory K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>
> >>> So we need a "start-here" image. It's the one used in the Applications
> >>> menu.
> >>>
> >>> Here's the example of the one for Oxygen:
> >>> http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/5602/startherebd7.png
> >>>
> >>> Ours obviously needs to be the Ubuntu logo. SVG:
> >>>
> >>>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Official?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=UbuntuCoF.svg
> >>>
> >>> So lets see what you crazy kids can com up with. :)
> >>>
> >>> -Cory K. <https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art>
> >>>
> >>
> >> This is taken from the Clear_Intrepid submission on the wiki but I think
> >> something
> >> like this:
> >>
> http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m163/Oak37_2006/clearintrepid_start.png
> >>
> >> would be really good. I don't know any of the technical limitations that
> >> might
> >> make this unfeasible but the idea of a three-dimensional logo is what I
> >> was
> >> getting at.
> >>
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> > The overlap isn't possible right now though, David. Gnome 3's panel might
> > be
> > able to do this when created but it can't be done now.
> >
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I meant about the overlap of the icon. Not about the icon itself. Sorry for
not being more clear.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Breathe - "Start-Here" image.

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On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 3:25 AM, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 2008/10/2 Cory K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>> So we need a "start-here" image. It's the one used in the Applications
>> menu.
>>
>> Here's the example of the one for Oxygen:
>> http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/5602/startherebd7.png
>>
>> Ours obviously needs to be the Ubuntu logo. SVG:
>>
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Official?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=UbuntuCoF.svg
>>
>> So lets see what you crazy kids can com up with. :)
>>
>> -Cory K. <https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art>
>>
>
> This is taken from the Clear_Intrepid submission on the wiki but I think
> something
> like this:
> http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m163/Oak37_2006/clearintrepid_start.png
>
> would be really good. I don't know any of the technical limitations that
> might
> make this unfeasible but the idea of a three-dimensional logo is what I was
> getting at.
>
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The overlap isn't possible right now though, David. Gnome 3's panel might be
able to do this when created but it can't be done now.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Breathe: user-trash, Sebastian's bin edited

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On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Thorsten Wilms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi!
>
> I'm on the run, so I can only say that I edited Sebastian Porta's bin as
> comments only go so far. tell me what you think!
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions
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Here's what I think:
The brown that there looks too dull, and thus it looks like a polished mud
or clay (not fire hardened) trash bin. I think that the bin should be orange
like the originals myself, though thats just my opinion.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Ibex Wallpaper

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On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 8:55 PM, Smartboy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 11:19 AM, Rico Sta. Cruz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>>
>> The textless version is available somewhere. It's the second version on
>> http://customize.org/wallpapers/60284 .
>> (Though personally I'd advise against including it in the distribution!)
>>
>>
>> Smartboy wrote:
>> >
>> > On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 5:42 AM, Rico Sta. Cruz
>> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Okay, update. Here's a more sophisticated remix (at least I'd like to
>> >> think)
>> >>
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/Earthenibex_wallpaper
>> >>
>> >> Direct link to image:
>> >>
>> >>
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/Earthenibex_wallpaper?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=earthenibex-full-text.png
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Rico Sta. Cruz wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > If anyone remembers my Ibex wallpaper, here's a quick revision:
>> >> > http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/5246/redibexcb7.jpg
>> >> > ...I can't verify the source of the background wood texture though
>> >> > (bummer!).
>> >> >
>> >> > SO: If anyone else wants to do their own remix, here's the
>> composition
>> >> > isolated in an alpha-blended PNG. Have fun!
>> >> > http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/8062/bareos1.png
>> >> > (Hi-res 2.1MB PNG)
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
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>> > Wow! Thats fantastic! I think that if you got rid of the ubuntu logo,
>> text
>> > and slogan, then it could seriously contend to be part of Ubuntu. I
>> wonder
>> > if Ken is still watching this, because the current wallpaper in ibex is
>> > creating a storm of angry people, and since he said on his blog its a
>> > test,
>> > then I think he still may be open to wallpapers (we can always hope).
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> I hope you don't mind, but I made an adjustment to your image and made it a
> little lighter. May I ask why you would advise against including it in
> Ubuntu? :)
>
> Smartboy
>


Sorry for the double post, forgot the link.
Here<http://img604.imageshack.us/content.php?page=blogpost&files=img232/8066/earthenibex1280x800editlb3.jpg>
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Ibex Wallpaper

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On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 11:19 AM, Rico Sta. Cruz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

>
> The textless version is available somewhere. It's the second version on
> http://customize.org/wallpapers/60284 .
> (Though personally I'd advise against including it in the distribution!)
>
>
> Smartboy wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 5:42 AM, Rico Sta. Cruz
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Okay, update. Here's a more sophisticated remix (at least I'd like to
> >> think)
> >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/Earthenibex_wallpaper
> >>
> >> Direct link to image:
> >>
> >>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/Earthenibex_wallpaper?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=earthenibex-full-text.png
> >>
> >>
> >> Rico Sta. Cruz wrote:
> >> >
> >> > If anyone remembers my Ibex wallpaper, here's a quick revision:
> >> > http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/5246/redibexcb7.jpg
> >> > ...I can't verify the source of the background wood texture though
> >> > (bummer!).
> >> >
> >> > SO: If anyone else wants to do their own remix, here's the composition
> >> > isolated in an alpha-blended PNG. Have fun!
> >> > http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/8062/bareos1.png
> >> > (Hi-res 2.1MB PNG)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
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> > Wow! Thats fantastic! I think that if you got rid of the ubuntu logo,
> text
> > and slogan, then it could seriously contend to be part of Ubuntu. I
> wonder
> > if Ken is still watching this, because the current wallpaper in ibex is
> > creating a storm of angry people, and since he said on his blog its a
> > test,
> > then I think he still may be open to wallpapers (we can always hope).
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I hope you don't mind, but I made an adjustment to your image and made it a
little lighter. May I ask why you would advise against including it in
Ubuntu? :)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Ibex Wallpaper

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On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 5:42 AM, Rico Sta. Cruz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

>
> Okay, update. Here's a more sophisticated remix (at least I'd like to
> think)
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/Earthenibex_wallpaper
>
> Direct link to image:
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/Earthenibex_wallpaper?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=earthenibex-full-text.png
>
>
> Rico Sta. Cruz wrote:
> >
> > If anyone remembers my Ibex wallpaper, here's a quick revision:
> > http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/5246/redibexcb7.jpg
> > ...I can't verify the source of the background wood texture though
> > (bummer!).
> >
> > SO: If anyone else wants to do their own remix, here's the composition
> > isolated in an alpha-blended PNG. Have fun!
> > http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/8062/bareos1.png
> > (Hi-res 2.1MB PNG)
> >
> >
> >
>
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Wow! Thats fantastic! I think that if you got rid of the ubuntu logo, text
and slogan, then it could seriously contend to be part of Ubuntu. I wonder
if Ken is still watching this, because the current wallpaper in ibex is
creating a storm of angry people, and since he said on his blog its a test,
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Re: [ubuntu-art] DiEmerald + Dust?

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On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 3:52 AM, Thomas L.G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I was just thinking, it would have been great with a Dust-emerald theme,
> which looks like DiEmerald theme, only with the correct colors to fit
> with the Dust GTK theme. Here is what it looks atm:
> http://portefolje.net/div/fusion.jpg
>
> Just replacing the brown color with a grey dusty one, would be awesome.
> Because I love the outline + buttons of DiEmerald. Shouldn't be so hard?
>
> (The reason for using Emerald atm is GTK and Compiz fucking up, messing
> with my min/max/close buttons when using GTK and Compiz together...)
>
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We don't use Emerald here for 2 reasons: 1) It is no longer maintained (the
compiz community is working on a new window decorator); 2) Metacity themes
can be used with both Compiz and without Compiz, meaning less theming and
more bugfixing (after all, even with themes, the less code, the less bugs).

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Let the disappointments begin?

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On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 6:18 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > On 30/09/2008, Eric Appleman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> If we keep bitching and moaning, then we might as well deserve to be
> >> stuck with Human (Murrine) as our default.
> >>
> >>
> >> - Eric
> >>
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> > There's a point where bitching and moaning becomes unproductive. But at
> > the
> > same time, realizing that Ubuntu has received a lot of hype regarding the
> > new theme for probably a year now, and you don't let something like that
> > get
> > so hyped up and then expect everyone not to notice when you don't fulfill
> > the expectation.
> >
> > Every single article, review and assessment of Ubuntu lately have
> promoted
> > the idea that we would be receiving a new theme soon, and that hype is
> > something that Ubuntu and Canonical have benefitted from. It's something
> > we've all benefitted from as Ubuntu users.
> >
> > And all this time, not one officially affiliated Ubuntu/Canonical
> > community
> > member has disputed the introduction of the new theme in Intrepid. Hype,
> > publicity and media is a dangerous thing and can backfire on you very
> > easily. I personally think it would be a very bad PR move by
> > Canonical/Ubuntu not to come through on the new theme, since it is
> > dangerous
> > to mismanage your users expectations so badly.
> >
> > You or I may be able to say, whatever, I'll install my own theme. But I'm
> > not sure that I can promote and advocate a product with which I
> personally
> > am unhappy how my own expectations have been managed.
> >
> > I personally am very much hoping though, that this is a ballsy PR move,
> > and
> > that they're going to wait till everyone's completely up in arms about
> it,
> > and then come through with a winning move. If that's the case, risky, but
> > respect since they're taking the game to another level :P
> >
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> Hello,
>
> first short introduction, because this is my first post in this conference.
> My name is Vit Svarc, I am 27 years old and I am from Czech Republic.I
> suppose as everybody here, I love Ubuntu.
>
> Now tho the topic - I can agree. I signed up into this conference, because
> I was curios, how the new theme will look like. I couldn't find any
> offical information about this.
> I am watching all discussions since two weeks, and I have to say that I am
> very confused, what is happening here.
> I thought that three weeks before final release, there has to be something
> done, and only small bugs will be fixed before final release.
> From that what I understood, the Dust theme will not be offical theme (?),
> and there is no discussion about any other themes.
> The offical page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid looks
> also very confusing to me, normal user can't understand, what will be in
> the official release, and what not.
> Then, the curious user downloads the alpha CD or live build to see, what
> is happening with the look, and there is no change.
> The same is for the icon theme, default fonts, color schemas, etc.
>
> So the present situation is very confusing, everyone expect the last
> offical information, which was - Ubuntu 8.04 will not come with the new
> look because LTS release, the new look will be moved into II 8.10.
> That is what I read in all articles about ubuntu releases.
> If it is not like this, someone should somewhere say/write, what is the
> present situation, why it is not like it was presented before, and when
> the new look really come.
> I thought, that Ubuntu Artwork team is the responsible team for doing this.
> Sorry if I am wrong.
> Best regards
>
> Vit Svarc
>
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We aren't the official art team, that is left to Canonical and their team of
professional artists. We work on community themes and wallpapers, and if
Mark likes one of our themes, he will use it. There still might be a new
theme which gets added before the beta is released, but I doubt that the
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Breathe - The beginning.

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On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 5:47 PM, spg76 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>
> 2008/9/27 Cory K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Ok. So I believe I have all the technical in place for us to start some
>> serious tinkering on the icons.
>>
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Icons shows the 6 icons
>> we will start with.
>>
>> If you would like to take a shot at one grab the SVG from the link right
>> next to the preview image and submit it here:
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions or on the ML.
>> I will upload items to BZR. The wiki will then show the changes.
>>
>> Some specific things are still to be fleshed out.
>>
>> Perspective, lighting and whatnot. Best I can say is go with what's
>> there for now.
>>
>> I will note that the folder icon is awaiting Ken W's revisions.
>>
>> Remember to keep an eye on
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet for revisions to our
>> design guidelines as we come to finer decisions. A template is also
>> there for anyone who wants to take a go at another icon we're not
>> currently focused on.
>>
>> This set will go through *countless* revisions. So for now have fun with
>> ideas. :)
>>
>> -Cory K.
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> Hello, everybody.
> I'll submit some icons and keep an eye on the list and wiki for new
> guidelines.
> Also any feedback about the icons it's always welcome.
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Where should I put the icons I create. I am working on some now, but I don't
know if they are very good (since I am not a designer), and one of them
replaces one of the icons on the main page. I was thinking maybe an
"Incoming" page, like the rest of the Art stuff.
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