Re: [ubuntu-art] How the first theme is chosen for the user.
shadowh511 wrote: THERE WILL BE AN INSTALL OPTION TO SKIP THE WIZARD No, will not happen. Don't you know that the installer tries hard to ask the _minimum_ of questions? Being told something will not happen and then shouting back like this is very childish. Also, Mr. shadow511, there are some rules common to almost all mailing lists. Do not top post. Do not quote complete threads. Edit quotes down to things you adress directly. (This also to everyone else top posting here.) -- Thorsten Unbegrenzter Speicher, Top-Spamschutz, 120 SMS und eigene E-MailDomain inkl. http://office.freenet.de/dienste/emailoffice/produktuebersicht/power/mail/index.html -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] How the first theme is chosen for the user.
What I meant was a simple checkbox. -- Ubuntu FTW! -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] How the first theme is chosen for the user.
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 9:31 AM, shadowh511 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I meant was a simple checkbox. I think, having to customize your installation in order to not have to customize your desktop is too much forced customization already. The only thing that could maybe work would be an unobstrusive little bubble popup on first run, saying something like: Hey, we makers of ubuntu have created four differently shaded themes for you to chose from. Click this bubble to select the one that suits your tastes best! You can also customize your desktop's looks later by opening the Appearance settings from the System » Settigns menu, which you can find in the top left screen corner. But even this would be regarded some kind of first-run app... Honestly, I never liked the Welcome to Windoze - have a tour around all the new bling!-dialogs. klaus -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] How the first theme is chosen for the user.
i'm making the idea in kommander right now, and I an making a Cancel button. On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 7:20 AM, saltedlight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 15:57 +0200, Klaus Bitto wrote: But even this would be regarded some kind of first-run app... Honestly, I never liked the Welcome to Windoze - have a tour around all the new bling!-dialogs. And if this is my 10,000 Ubuntu install do I really need this information? And what if I install Ubuntu for others, do I have to phone them and ask what theme do you want? Or maybe i'l email them this question, and they can email me the answer back. If anyone need a tour they can find help, but this is not about artwork... If you decide to make more themes for the user who would like to change the default one, do not be worried about if he will know that there are many themes, but if he will use any of them, because he might like none... -- Sorin-Mihai Vârgolici -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- Ubuntu FTW! -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] How the first theme is chosen for the user.
I agree with you 2008/4/29 Arjuna Navaratna [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Just wanted to make a suggestion... I like the idea of letting the user determine which of the 'human element' theme variations is used. But instead of asking the user when they first login, what if the option is available after installation. That way the login screen itself could be different based on the theme choice... fire, water etc. style gdm themes? Personally, I'm loving the element idea as soon as I read it. It would really set ubuntu apart in terms of looks with pretty much every other OS out there. -Arjuna On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 8:08 PM, shadowh511 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: for vista, you mean sidebar, right? sideshow is an embedded display on the computing device. On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 5:04 PM, Sumit Agarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hahahha... Actually, you make a very good point. Ubuntu should get in the habit of innovating UI that MS/Apple are compelled to copy. Mac's Dashboard and later Vista's Sideshow are essentially stolen ideas from the GNOME/KDE communities. Firefox 3 has recently introduced a feature that I'm certain will be copied by Safari and IE in the near future: the 'find as you type' history search integrated into the URL bar. -Sumit On Apr 28, 2008, at 4:46 PM, shadowh511 wrote: it would set us apart, and we would get the added benefit of watching Microsoft copying us! On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Sumit Agarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That sounds fun. But also maybe too fun? -Sumit On Apr 28, 2008, at 4:37 PM, shadowh511 wrote: On the first login, you will be greeted with a Welcome to Ubuntu dialog that presents two options: Use default theme and Take the quiz to choose your theme in the second, it will ask you a series of questions with answers and chooses the theme from there. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- Ubuntu FTW! -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- Ubuntu FTW! -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] How the first theme is chosen for the user.
i need some help with the coding for it, attaching the file On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 2:00 PM, sylvain marc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with you 2008/4/29 Arjuna Navaratna [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Just wanted to make a suggestion... I like the idea of letting the user determine which of the 'human element' theme variations is used. But instead of asking the user when they first login, what if the option is available after installation. That way the login screen itself could be different based on the theme choice... fire, water etc. style gdm themes? Personally, I'm loving the element idea as soon as I read it. It would really set ubuntu apart in terms of looks with pretty much every other OS out there. -Arjuna On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 8:08 PM, shadowh511 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: for vista, you mean sidebar, right? sideshow is an embedded display on the computing device. On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 5:04 PM, Sumit Agarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hahahha... Actually, you make a very good point. Ubuntu should get in the habit of innovating UI that MS/Apple are compelled to copy. Mac's Dashboard and later Vista's Sideshow are essentially stolen ideas from the GNOME/KDE communities. Firefox 3 has recently introduced a feature that I'm certain will be copied by Safari and IE in the near future: the 'find as you type' history search integrated into the URL bar. -Sumit On Apr 28, 2008, at 4:46 PM, shadowh511 wrote: it would set us apart, and we would get the added benefit of watching Microsoft copying us! On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Sumit Agarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That sounds fun. But also maybe too fun? -Sumit On Apr 28, 2008, at 4:37 PM, shadowh511 wrote: On the first login, you will be greeted with a Welcome to Ubuntu dialog that presents two options: Use default theme and Take the quiz to choose your theme in the second, it will ask you a series of questions with answers and chooses the theme from there. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- Ubuntu FTW! -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- Ubuntu FTW! -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- Ubuntu FTW! start.kmdr Description: Binary data -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] How the first theme is chosen for the user.
On the first login, you will be greeted with a Welcome to Ubuntu dialog that presents two options: Use default theme and Take the quiz to choose your theme in the second, it will ask you a series of questions with answers and chooses the theme from there. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] How the first theme is chosen for the user.
That sounds fun. But also maybe too fun? -Sumit On Apr 28, 2008, at 4:37 PM, shadowh511 wrote: On the first login, you will be greeted with a Welcome to Ubuntu dialog that presents two options: Use default theme and Take the quiz to choose your theme in the second, it will ask you a series of questions with answers and chooses the theme from there. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] How the first theme is chosen for the user.
it would set us apart, and we would get the added benefit of watching Microsoft copying us! On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Sumit Agarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That sounds fun. But also maybe too fun? -Sumit On Apr 28, 2008, at 4:37 PM, shadowh511 wrote: On the first login, you will be greeted with a Welcome to Ubuntu dialog that presents two options: Use default theme and Take the quiz to choose your theme in the second, it will ask you a series of questions with answers and chooses the theme from there. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- Ubuntu FTW! -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] How the first theme is chosen for the user.
Hahahha... Actually, you make a very good point. Ubuntu should get in the habit of innovating UI that MS/Apple are compelled to copy. Mac's Dashboard and later Vista's Sideshow are essentially stolen ideas from the GNOME/ KDE communities. Firefox 3 has recently introduced a feature that I'm certain will be copied by Safari and IE in the near future: the 'find as you type' history search integrated into the URL bar. -Sumit On Apr 28, 2008, at 4:46 PM, shadowh511 wrote: it would set us apart, and we would get the added benefit of watching Microsoft copying us! On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Sumit Agarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That sounds fun. But also maybe too fun? -Sumit On Apr 28, 2008, at 4:37 PM, shadowh511 wrote: On the first login, you will be greeted with a Welcome to Ubuntu dialog that presents two options: Use default theme and Take the quiz to choose your theme in the second, it will ask you a series of questions with answers and chooses the theme from there. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- Ubuntu FTW! -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] How the first theme is chosen for the user.
for vista, you mean sidebar, right? sideshow is an embedded display on the computing device. On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 5:04 PM, Sumit Agarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hahahha... Actually, you make a very good point. Ubuntu should get in the habit of innovating UI that MS/Apple are compelled to copy. Mac's Dashboard and later Vista's Sideshow are essentially stolen ideas from the GNOME/KDE communities. Firefox 3 has recently introduced a feature that I'm certain will be copied by Safari and IE in the near future: the 'find as you type' history search integrated into the URL bar. -Sumit On Apr 28, 2008, at 4:46 PM, shadowh511 wrote: it would set us apart, and we would get the added benefit of watching Microsoft copying us! On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Sumit Agarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That sounds fun. But also maybe too fun? -Sumit On Apr 28, 2008, at 4:37 PM, shadowh511 wrote: On the first login, you will be greeted with a Welcome to Ubuntu dialog that presents two options: Use default theme and Take the quiz to choose your theme in the second, it will ask you a series of questions with answers and chooses the theme from there. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- Ubuntu FTW! -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- Ubuntu FTW! -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] How the first theme is chosen for the user.
Just wanted to make a suggestion... I like the idea of letting the user determine which of the 'human element' theme variations is used. But instead of asking the user when they first login, what if the option is available after installation. That way the login screen itself could be different based on the theme choice... fire, water etc. style gdm themes? Personally, I'm loving the element idea as soon as I read it. It would really set ubuntu apart in terms of looks with pretty much every other OS out there. -Arjuna On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 8:08 PM, shadowh511 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: for vista, you mean sidebar, right? sideshow is an embedded display on the computing device. On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 5:04 PM, Sumit Agarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hahahha... Actually, you make a very good point. Ubuntu should get in the habit of innovating UI that MS/Apple are compelled to copy. Mac's Dashboard and later Vista's Sideshow are essentially stolen ideas from the GNOME/KDE communities. Firefox 3 has recently introduced a feature that I'm certain will be copied by Safari and IE in the near future: the 'find as you type' history search integrated into the URL bar. -Sumit On Apr 28, 2008, at 4:46 PM, shadowh511 wrote: it would set us apart, and we would get the added benefit of watching Microsoft copying us! On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Sumit Agarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That sounds fun. But also maybe too fun? -Sumit On Apr 28, 2008, at 4:37 PM, shadowh511 wrote: On the first login, you will be greeted with a Welcome to Ubuntu dialog that presents two options: Use default theme and Take the quiz to choose your theme in the second, it will ask you a series of questions with answers and chooses the theme from there. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- Ubuntu FTW! -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- Ubuntu FTW! -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] How the first theme is chosen for the user.
So wait. You guys want a pop-up app to ask the user what theme they want to use? -Cory \m/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] How the first theme is chosen for the user.
Yes, Yes, and YES. but if two users had disagreeing themes, what would happen then? On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 5:34 PM, Arjuna Navaratna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wanted to make a suggestion... I like the idea of letting the user determine which of the 'human element' theme variations is used. But instead of asking the user when they first login, what if the option is available after installation. That way the login screen itself could be different based on the theme choice... fire, water etc. style gdm themes? Personally, I'm loving the element idea as soon as I read it. It would really set ubuntu apart in terms of looks with pretty much every other OS out there. -Arjuna On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 8:08 PM, shadowh511 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: for vista, you mean sidebar, right? sideshow is an embedded display on the computing device. On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 5:04 PM, Sumit Agarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hahahha... Actually, you make a very good point. Ubuntu should get in the habit of innovating UI that MS/Apple are compelled to copy. Mac's Dashboard and later Vista's Sideshow are essentially stolen ideas from the GNOME/KDE communities. Firefox 3 has recently introduced a feature that I'm certain will be copied by Safari and IE in the near future: the 'find as you type' history search integrated into the URL bar. -Sumit On Apr 28, 2008, at 4:46 PM, shadowh511 wrote: it would set us apart, and we would get the added benefit of watching Microsoft copying us! On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Sumit Agarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That sounds fun. But also maybe too fun? -Sumit On Apr 28, 2008, at 4:37 PM, shadowh511 wrote: On the first login, you will be greeted with a Welcome to Ubuntu dialog that presents two options: Use default theme and Take the quiz to choose your theme in the second, it will ask you a series of questions with answers and chooses the theme from there. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- Ubuntu FTW! -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- Ubuntu FTW! -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art Cory, its for the first login -- Ubuntu FTW! -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] How the first theme is chosen for the user.
You're right, if different users have different themes choices, the gdm should atleast be the same. :) I guess I got a little carried away by the possibilities. On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 8:51 PM, shadowh511 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, Yes, and YES. but if two users had disagreeing themes, what would happen then? On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 5:34 PM, Arjuna Navaratna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wanted to make a suggestion... I like the idea of letting the user determine which of the 'human element' theme variations is used. But instead of asking the userwhen they first login, what if the option is available after installation. That way the login screen itself could be different based on the theme choice... fire, water etc. style gdm themes? Personally, I'm loving the element idea as soon as I read it. It would really set ubuntu apart in terms of looks with pretty much every other OS out there. -Arjuna On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 8:08 PM, shadowh511 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: for vista, you mean sidebar, right? sideshow is an embedded display on the computing device. On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 5:04 PM, Sumit Agarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hahahha... Actually, you make a very good point. Ubuntu should get in the habit of innovating UI that MS/Apple are compelled to copy. Mac's Dashboard and later Vista's Sideshow are essentially stolen ideas from the GNOME/KDE communities. Firefox 3 has recently introduced a feature that I'm certain will be copied by Safari and IE in the near future: the 'find as you type' history search integrated into the URL bar. -Sumit On Apr 28, 2008, at 4:46 PM, shadowh511 wrote: it would set us apart, and we would get the added benefit of watching Microsoft copying us! On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Sumit Agarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That sounds fun. But also maybe too fun? -Sumit On Apr 28, 2008, at 4:37 PM, shadowh511 wrote: On the first login, you will be greeted with a Welcome to Ubuntu dialog that presents two options: Use default theme and Take the quiz to choose your theme in the second, it will ask you a series of questions with answers and chooses the theme from there. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- Ubuntu FTW! -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- Ubuntu FTW! -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art Cory, its for the first login -- Ubuntu FTW! -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] How the first theme is chosen for the user.
Ah, that's right. Stupid confusing features names for stupid confusing useless features... -Sumit On Apr 28, 2008, at 5:08 PM, shadowh511 wrote: for vista, you mean sidebar, right? sideshow is an embedded display on the computing device. On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 5:04 PM, Sumit Agarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hahahha... Actually, you make a very good point. Ubuntu should get in the habit of innovating UI that MS/Apple are compelled to copy. Mac's Dashboard and later Vista's Sideshow are essentially stolen ideas from the GNOME/KDE communities. Firefox 3 has recently introduced a feature that I'm certain will be copied by Safari and IE in the near future: the 'find as you type' history search integrated into the URL bar. -Sumit On Apr 28, 2008, at 4:46 PM, shadowh511 wrote: it would set us apart, and we would get the added benefit of watching Microsoft copying us! On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Sumit Agarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That sounds fun. But also maybe too fun? -Sumit On Apr 28, 2008, at 4:37 PM, shadowh511 wrote: On the first login, you will be greeted with a Welcome to Ubuntu dialog that presents two options: Use default theme and Take the quiz to choose your theme in the second, it will ask you a series of questions with answers and chooses the theme from there. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- Ubuntu FTW! -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- Ubuntu FTW! -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] How the first theme is chosen for the user.
All such preferences should be user/account-based, not installation- based. -Sumit On Apr 28, 2008, at 5:51 PM, shadowh511 wrote: Yes, Yes, and YES. but if two users had disagreeing themes, what would happen then? On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 5:34 PM, Arjuna Navaratna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wanted to make a suggestion... I like the idea of letting the user determine which of the 'human element' theme variations is used. But instead of asking the user when they first login, what if the option is available after installation. That way the login screen itself could be different based on the theme choice... fire, water etc. style gdm themes? Personally, I'm loving the element idea as soon as I read it. It would really set ubuntu apart in terms of looks with pretty much every other OS out there. -Arjuna On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 8:08 PM, shadowh511 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: for vista, you mean sidebar, right? sideshow is an embedded display on the computing device. On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 5:04 PM, Sumit Agarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hahahha... Actually, you make a very good point. Ubuntu should get in the habit of innovating UI that MS/Apple are compelled to copy. Mac's Dashboard and later Vista's Sideshow are essentially stolen ideas from the GNOME/KDE communities. Firefox 3 has recently introduced a feature that I'm certain will be copied by Safari and IE in the near future: the 'find as you type' history search integrated into the URL bar. -Sumit On Apr 28, 2008, at 4:46 PM, shadowh511 wrote: it would set us apart, and we would get the added benefit of watching Microsoft copying us! On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Sumit Agarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That sounds fun. But also maybe too fun? -Sumit On Apr 28, 2008, at 4:37 PM, shadowh511 wrote: On the first login, you will be greeted with a Welcome to Ubuntu dialog that presents two options: Use default theme and Take the quiz to choose your theme in the second, it will ask you a series of questions with answers and chooses the theme from there. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- Ubuntu FTW! -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- Ubuntu FTW! -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art Cory, its for the first login -- Ubuntu FTW! -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] How the first theme is chosen for the user.
... On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 6:09 PM, Sumit Agarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah, that's right. Stupid confusing features names for stupid confusing useless features... -Sumit On Apr 28, 2008, at 5:08 PM, shadowh511 wrote: for vista, you mean sidebar, right? sideshow is an embedded display on the computing device. On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 5:04 PM, Sumit Agarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hahahha... Actually, you make a very good point. Ubuntu should get in the habit of innovating UI that MS/Apple are compelled to copy. Mac's Dashboard and later Vista's Sideshow are essentially stolen ideas from the GNOME/KDE communities. Firefox 3 has recently introduced a feature that I'm certain will be copied by Safari and IE in the near future: the 'find as you type' history search integrated into the URL bar. -Sumit On Apr 28, 2008, at 4:46 PM, shadowh511 wrote: it would set us apart, and we would get the added benefit of watching Microsoft copying us! On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Sumit Agarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That sounds fun. But also maybe too fun? -Sumit On Apr 28, 2008, at 4:37 PM, shadowh511 wrote: On the first login, you will be greeted with a Welcome to Ubuntu dialog that presents two options: Use default theme and Take the quiz to choose your theme in the second, it will ask you a series of questions with answers and chooses the theme from there. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- Ubuntu FTW! -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- Ubuntu FTW! -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- Ubuntu FTW! -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] How the first theme is chosen for the user.
shadowh511 wrote: Yes, Yes, and YES. but if two users had disagreeing themes, what would happen then? https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-artSNIP Cory, its for the first login Sorry to burst your bubble but 1st-run apps of any kind will never happen in Ubuntu any time soon. The idea has been shot down since the Warty days. And not to be a shit but this is all just talk 'till any one of us step up to do it. After which I'd bet by house it wouldn't get into Ubuntu. Look. I just want you guys to be realistic and work on things you can actually effect. We were talking about theme teams and then this idea popped out of nowhere. (note you didn't reply to my question when I 1st asked about this) The the default theme will always be chosen by Mark and the hirer-ups. Just the way it is. Best anyone can do is to work on a cohesive theme and hope they like it enough to say so. Even then (like I said in previous emails) they might want you to change things you don't want to. -Cory \m/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] How the first theme is chosen for the user.
agreed On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 6:10 PM, Sumit Agarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All such preferences should be user/account-based, not installation-based. -Sumit On Apr 28, 2008, at 5:51 PM, shadowh511 wrote: Yes, Yes, and YES. but if two users had disagreeing themes, what would happen then? On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 5:34 PM, Arjuna Navaratna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wanted to make a suggestion... I like the idea of letting the user determine which of the 'human element' theme variations is used. But instead of asking the user when they first login, what if the option is available after installation. That way the login screen itself could be different based on the theme choice... fire, water etc. style gdm themes? Personally, I'm loving the element idea as soon as I read it. It would really set ubuntu apart in terms of looks with pretty much every other OS out there. -Arjuna On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 8:08 PM, shadowh511 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: for vista, you mean sidebar, right? sideshow is an embedded display on the computing device. On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 5:04 PM, Sumit Agarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hahahha... Actually, you make a very good point. Ubuntu should get in the habit of innovating UI that MS/Apple are compelled to copy. Mac's Dashboard and later Vista's Sideshow are essentially stolen ideas from the GNOME/KDE communities. Firefox 3 has recently introduced a feature that I'm certain will be copied by Safari and IE in the near future: the 'find as you type' history search integrated into the URL bar. -Sumit On Apr 28, 2008, at 4:46 PM, shadowh511 wrote: it would set us apart, and we would get the added benefit of watching Microsoft copying us! On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Sumit Agarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That sounds fun. But also maybe too fun? -Sumit On Apr 28, 2008, at 4:37 PM, shadowh511 wrote: On the first login, you will be greeted with a Welcome to Ubuntu dialog that presents two options: Use default theme and Take the quiz to choose your theme in the second, it will ask you a series of questions with answers and chooses the theme from there. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- Ubuntu FTW! -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- Ubuntu FTW! -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art Cory, its for the first login -- Ubuntu FTW! -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- Ubuntu FTW! -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] How the first theme is chosen for the user.
i know someone that knows GTK, so it is a possibility On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shadowh511 wrote: Yes, Yes, and YES. but if two users had disagreeing themes, what would happen then? https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-artSNIP Cory, its for the first login Sorry to burst your bubble but 1st-run apps of any kind will never happen in Ubuntu any time soon. The idea has been shot down since the Warty days. And not to be a shit but this is all just talk 'till any one of us step up to do it. After which I'd bet by house it wouldn't get into Ubuntu. Look. I just want you guys to be realistic and work on things you can actually effect. We were talking about theme teams and then this idea popped out of nowhere. (note you didn't reply to my question when I 1st asked about this) The the default theme will always be chosen by Mark and the hirer-ups. Just the way it is. Best anyone can do is to work on a cohesive theme and hope they like it enough to say so. Even then (like I said in previous emails) they might want you to change things you don't want to. -Cory \m/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- Ubuntu FTW! -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] How the first theme is chosen for the user.
shadowh511 wrote: i know someone that knows GTK, so it is a possibility Coding this isn't actually the big thing. It's getting Ubuntu to use it. Are you guys on the same list I am? :) _Seriously_ I won't mince words with this on. Don't waste your time on this idea. It will never happen in Ubuntu. Test the waters on the ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list if you like. There are also just as many reasons not to do this as to do it. Personally, I just want to get in and use the OS. I don't need nag screens. I'll let it go from here on out unless someone responds directly to me. I urge you to not waste your time and trust in that I have learned a thing or two while crafting Studio. -Cory \m/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] How the first theme is chosen for the user.
THERE WILL BE AN INSTALL OPTION TO SKIP THE WIZARD On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 6:29 PM, Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shadowh511 wrote: i know someone that knows GTK, so it is a possibility Coding this isn't actually the big thing. It's getting Ubuntu to use it. Are you guys on the same list I am? :) _Seriously_ I won't mince words with this on. Don't waste your time on this idea. It will never happen in Ubuntu. Test the waters on the ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list if you like. There are also just as many reasons not to do this as to do it. Personally, I just want to get in and use the OS. I don't need nag screens. I'll let it go from here on out unless someone responds directly to me. I urge you to not waste your time and trust in that I have learned a thing or two while crafting Studio. -Cory \m/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- Ubuntu FTW! -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] How the first theme is chosen for the user.
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 6:34 PM, shadowh511 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: THERE WILL BE AN INSTALL OPTION TO SKIP THE WIZARD *Facepalm* Kill me now. Hopefully my little slideshow project will make it for consideration in Intrepid, so people will see hey, I can choose the theme! and happily customize when they restart /without/ the need for an obtrusive first-run thing. Forcing the user to customize his desktop, however, is absurd; many people do not care, just so long as it is tasteful. Bye, -Dylan On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 6:29 PM, Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shadowh511 wrote: i know someone that knows GTK, so it is a possibility Coding this isn't actually the big thing. It's getting Ubuntu to use it. Are you guys on the same list I am? :) _Seriously_ I won't mince words with this on. Don't waste your time on this idea. It will never happen in Ubuntu. Test the waters on the ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list if you like. There are also just as many reasons not to do this as to do it. Personally, I just want to get in and use the OS. I don't need nag screens. I'll let it go from here on out unless someone responds directly to me. I urge you to not waste your time and trust in that I have learned a thing or two while crafting Studio. -Cory \m/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- Ubuntu FTW! -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] How the first theme is chosen for the user.
Incorrect. Not many. MOST! Most. people. do. not. customize. their. desktop. At. all. Which is just another way of saying: lets get things right the first time. Lets put all our efforts into a tasteful default desktop. First order of business (in my opinion, and in the opinion of other non-enthusiasts I've spoken with) is color. While the orange/brown does effectively distinguish Ubuntu from other OS's, it is dramatically overused. Most people find it ugly. I don't think we should move away from those colors. I think we should simply limit what interface elements we actually apply them to. This is an actual item/issue we can discuss. I'm inviting targeted dialogue around this. PLEASE converse around issues like this instead of creating mockups that aren't targeted at any specific issues!!! Once we've identified issues we can make mockups that address them! -Sumit On Apr 28, 2008, at 6:44 PM, Dylan McCall wrote: many people do not care, just so long as it is tasteful. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] How the first theme is chosen for the user.
shadowh511 wrote: On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 6:29 PM, Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shadowh511 wrote: i know someone that knows GTK, so it is a possibility Coding this isn't actually the big thing. It's getting Ubuntu to use it. Are you guys on the same list I am? :) _Seriously_ I won't mince words with this on. Don't waste your time on this idea. It will never happen in Ubuntu. Test the waters on the ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list if you like. There are also just as many reasons not to do this as to do it. Personally, I just want to get in and use the OS. I don't need nag screens. I'll let it go from here on out unless someone responds directly to me. I urge you to not waste your time and trust in that I have learned a thing or two while crafting Studio. -Cory \m/ THERE WILL BE AN INSTALL OPTION TO SKIP THE WIZARD Since you responded, this is a prime example of what's wrong on this list. Where's the plan? Why didn't you mention this in the 1st post? How will the rest of this work? That's most of this list. Lets's do X! then lots of Yeah! That's awesome. Some chat ensues then nothing. And to respond directly to your post. IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN. (like that? ) :P You really have *no* clue what it would take to get this into Ubuntu and the history that is completely against you. I tried in a straightforward manner to educate you but you don't wanna take it constructively. Rock on. Have fun. -Cory \m/ PS: Just because we disagree on this doesn't mean I won't package any art for you. ;) -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
