Re: [ubuntu-art] Human or Tangerine for Dapper by default?

2006-05-26 Thread Who

On 5/26/06, Jean Pierre Rupp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

It seems Dapper still comes with the ugly Human icons by default instead
of the much more streamlined Tangerine set. Which is the one that will
be in Dapper by default at the end?.



Mark was pretty clear on this here:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2006-May/001392.html

I think it is a shame (well, actually, I only really dislike the
folders), but I also think that getting someone to develop an entire
icon theme from scratch, with the sole intention of it being the
Dapper theme and then abandoning it 4 days before release would be
unproductive and harsh! The Tangerine guys have been doing a great job
orangifying Tango, but it was always as an addtional theme and it is
also intrinsically less original than Human...

Tangerine is available, and is the default icon theme for at least one
of the new metathemes :)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Human or Tangerine for Dapper by default?

2006-05-26 Thread Michiel Sikma


Op 26-mei-2006, om 11:05 heeft Who het volgende geschreven:


I think it is a shame (well, actually, I only really dislike the
folders), but I also think that getting someone to develop an entire
icon theme from scratch, with the sole intention of it being the
Dapper theme and then abandoning it 4 days before release would be
unproductive and harsh! The Tangerine guys have been doing a great job
orangifying Tango, but it was always as an addtional theme and it is
also intrinsically less original than Human...

Tangerine is available, and is the default icon theme for at least one
of the new metathemes :)


I agree. Human is a pretty good icon set. I personally prefer  
Tangerine, although that one's not without problems, too. It's clear  
that Tangerine is the only set that can go toe-to-toe with Human, so  
we should figure out what it is we want and what it is the community  
wants. Human was made for Dapper, and that's why it's in. But Edgy is  
different, and if we figure out that Tangerine looks better with what  
we make, we'll surely be able to get it to become the next default set.


Michiel

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Human or Tangerine for Dapper by default?

2006-05-26 Thread Andreas Nilsson

Who wrote:

On 5/26/06, Jean Pierre Rupp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

It seems Dapper still comes with the ugly Human icons by default instead
of the much more streamlined Tangerine set. Which is the one that will
be in Dapper by default at the end?.



Mark was pretty clear on this here:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2006-May/001392.html

I think it is a shame (well, actually, I only really dislike the
folders), but I also think that getting someone to develop an entire
icon theme from scratch, with the sole intention of it being the
Dapper theme and then abandoning it 4 days before release would be
unproductive and harsh! The Tangerine guys have been doing a great job
orangifying Tango, but it was always as an addtional theme and it is
also intrinsically less original than Human...

Tangerine is available, and is the default icon theme for at least one
of the new metathemes :)

The good thing about the Tangerine development was that we can now start 
sending stuff upstream to GNOME and the developers behind the different 
applications that have been fixed up. This can't be done with Human, so 
making stuff original  is not always a good thing.
Anyway, it's been a fun ride and I hope to be able to pick up the 
discussion on icons after Dapper has been released. But fow, Mark has 
made his choice this time and after all, it's his distro.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Human or Tangerine for Dapper by default?

2006-05-26 Thread Andreas Nilsson

Who wrote:

The good thing about the Tangerine development was that we can now start
sending stuff upstream to GNOME and the developers behind the different
applications that have been fixed up. This can't be done with Human, so


Can you explain that please? :)

As GNOME follows the same guidelines as Tangerine does, when we in the 
ubuntu-art team has made new icons for stuff like log-viewer, the 
gst-tools, gnome-applets and various other applications we have at the 
same time made a great attribution to the artwork in the GNOME project.
Now as things have settled down with Dapper we can start sending those 
things off to the developers behind those modules in GNOME and share the 
love from ubuntu to the rest of the community.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Human or Tangerine for Dapper by default?

2006-05-26 Thread Julian Oliver
..on Fri, May 26, 2006 at 09:57:33AM -0400, Jean Pierre Rupp wrote:
 I must say I downloaded today the new artwork upgrade, and the Human
 icons have polished the few rough edges there were. Now it looks much
 better. They've done a great work indeed.

i'd say it's 90% there for sure - it does look great.

that said there are still many 'alien' icons in the set that do add some 
noise to the artwork overall (laptop AC/bat icon and 'support' icons for 
instance). 
similarly panel icon placement is obviously a bit poor (look at the 
logout button for instance, it's not 'centered' - a pixel or two away from the 
top 
of the panel). 

considering where Ubuntu was 6 weeks ago however, it's a gigantic improvement.

congrats all!

julian

 
 El vie, 26-05-2006 a las 11:18 +0200, Michiel Sikma escribi?:
 
  Op 26-mei-2006, om 11:05 heeft Who het volgende geschreven:
  
   I think it is a shame (well, actually, I only really dislike the
   folders), but I also think that getting someone to develop an entire
   icon theme from scratch, with the sole intention of it being the
   Dapper theme and then abandoning it 4 days before release would be
   unproductive and harsh! The Tangerine guys have been doing a great job
   orangifying Tango, but it was always as an addtional theme and it is
   also intrinsically less original than Human...
  
   Tangerine is available, and is the default icon theme for at least one
   of the new metathemes :)
  
  I agree. Human is a pretty good icon set. I personally prefer  
  Tangerine, although that one's not without problems, too. It's clear  
  that Tangerine is the only set that can go toe-to-toe with Human, so  
  we should figure out what it is we want and what it is the community  
  wants. Human was made for Dapper, and that's why it's in. But Edgy is  
  different, and if we figure out that Tangerine looks better with what  
  we make, we'll surely be able to get it to become the next default set.
  
  Michiel

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[ubuntu-art] Human or Tangerine for Dapper by default?

2006-05-25 Thread Jean Pierre Rupp
It seems Dapper still comes with the ugly Human icons by default instead
of the much more streamlined Tangerine set. Which is the one that will
be in Dapper by default at the end?.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Human or Tangerine for Dapper by default?

2006-05-25 Thread Troy James Sobotka
On Thu, 2006-25-05 at 23:57 -0400, Jean Pierre Rupp wrote:
 It seems Dapper still comes with the ugly Human icons by default instead
 of the much more streamlined Tangerine set.

I am running Human here for Dapper and they are beautiful.
I hope it stays the way it is.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Human or Tangerine for Dapper by default?

2006-05-25 Thread Billy




On Thu, 2006-05-25 at 23:57 -0400, Jean Pierre Rupp wrote:


It seems Dapper still comes with the ugly Human icons by default instead
of the much more streamlined Tangerine set. Which is the one that will
be in Dapper by default at the end?.



>From all I have heard, Human, and I prefer it that way. If you look at the polls, Human is not far behind Tangerine. So, it is obvious they are not ugly and many people like them. It's certainly not enough of a difference to justify switching to Tangerine, IMO.


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