Re: [ubuntu-art] request: tango style synaptic icons

2006-04-11 Thread Sebastian Heinlein
Am Dienstag, den 11.04.2006, 03:52 +0200 schrieb Josué Alcalde González:

 I have been playing with gimp. 
 These are new icons based on a gnome-software-update-available.svg which
 was published in this list.
 I suggest also changing the synaptic icon to this new svg or something
 similar.

I already replaced the old Synaptic icon in my local branch. 


I don't think that the software box is such a good idea. Mainly you
loose lots of space just to draw the grey part of the box that does not
contain any information. Furthermore I could not identify the box
without having the nome-software-update-available in my mind. I prefer
the old package icons that Anderson used.

So could you try to use a darker green for your old installed icons?
That could perhaps increase the contrast to the yellow/orange arrows.

Thanks,

Sebastian


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Re: [ubuntu-art] request: tango style synaptic icons

2006-04-10 Thread Sebastian Heinlein
Michael Vogt:

Thanks for the new icon Sebastian. I tested them on my system and I
think the contrast is not big enough for some. I.e. the embedded
information on upgrade is not visible enough (because the yellow arrow
dosn't show that well over the background).

The same for upgradable and locked, I find the contrast not big enough
and think it's hard to read.

Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-art] request: tango style synaptic icons

2006-04-10 Thread Josué Alcalde González
El lun, 10-04-2006 a las 22:55 +0200, Sebastian Heinlein escribió: 
 Michael Vogt:
 
 Thanks for the new icon Sebastian. I tested them on my system and I
 think the contrast is not big enough for some. I.e. the embedded
 information on upgrade is not visible enough (because the yellow arrow
 dosn't show that well over the background).
 
 The same for upgradable and locked, I find the contrast not big enough
 and think it's hard to read.
 
 Cheers,
  Michael
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 removal' the same.
 https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/24747
 
 
I have been playing with gimp. 
These are new icons based on a gnome-software-update-available.svg which
was published in this list.
I suggest also changing the synaptic icon to this new svg or something
similar.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] request: tango style synaptic icons

2006-04-09 Thread Sebastian Heinlein
Am Sonntag, den 09.04.2006, 20:12 +0200 schrieb Josué Alcalde González:
 El dom, 09-04-2006 a las 19:19 +0200, Sebastian Heinlein escribió:
  Hello again,
  
  since I am quite unaware of how to use Inkscape I would like to request
  a new system upgrade icon, too.
  
  A tango and a tangerine version would be very nice.
  
  Your icons are now in my branch, Josué.
  
  Thanks for all your efforts,
  
  Sebastian
 Some different options based on tango icons.

I would prefer the computer icon since it affects the whole system.
Additionally the Ubuntu computer would be even better :)

By the way at the moment I can only include the bitmap version, since
using the gtk theme infrastructure in synaptic would be a too deep
change before the release of dapper.

Regards,

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Re: [ubuntu-art] request: tango style synaptic icons

2006-04-09 Thread Josué Alcalde González
El dom, 09-04-2006 a las 21:05 +0200, Sebastian Heinlein escribió:
 Am Sonntag, den 09.04.2006, 20:12 +0200 schrieb Josué Alcalde González:
 
 I would prefer the computer icon since it affects the whole system.
 Additionally the Ubuntu computer would be even better :)
 
 By the way at the moment I can only include the bitmap version, since
 using the gtk theme infrastructure in synaptic would be a too deep
 change before the release of dapper.
I think this is good. It goes well with Human and Tangerine (since both
use the same 22x22 icon for computer).
I have added a border to make it 24x24 which is the size used now.
 Regards,
 
 Sebastian
 


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Re: [ubuntu-art] request: tango style synaptic icons

2006-04-07 Thread Pascal Klein
On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 19:02 +0200, Sebastian Heinlein wrote:

  I prefer Andreas' solution...can we attach that to the bug report too?
 
 Everyone can attach stuff to bug reports. So feel free to do so.
 
 But Anderson hasn't yet(?) provided a full theme and there are still the
 outstanding issues that I mentioned in my last email.

If you mean the Tangerine theme page, that is my fault. I was intending
to do it but have not had the time. I apologise for that.

Check back on the weekend. :)


Cheers,
Pascal

 I tried the same in my first approach to create icons, but could not find a
 satisfying solution. But perhaps the discussion here is more fertile.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Sebastian
 
 
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Re: [ubuntu-art] request: tango style synaptic icons

2006-04-06 Thread Who
On 4/5/06, Sebastian Heinlein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Am Mittwoch, den 05.04.2006, 16:20 +0200 schrieb Josué Alcalde González:
  El mié, 05-04-2006 a las 12:44 +1000, Pascal Klein escribió:
   Yep. Would you like some help with the rest?
 
  I sent them yesterday to the list. Haven't they arrived?
 

 I attached them to a bug report:

 https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/synaptic/+bug/24747

 Thanks again. I cannot say this enough.

 If we don't find a better solution I would vote for using your tango
 styled icons.

 Sebastian


I prefer Andreas' solution...can we attach that to the bug report too?

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Re: [ubuntu-art] request: tango style synaptic icons

2006-04-06 Thread Sebastian Heinlein

Zitat von Who [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


On 4/5/06, Sebastian Heinlein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Am Mittwoch, den 05.04.2006, 16:20 +0200 schrieb Josué Alcalde González:
 El mié, 05-04-2006 a las 12:44 +1000, Pascal Klein escribió:
  Yep. Would you like some help with the rest?

 I sent them yesterday to the list. Haven't they arrived?


I attached them to a bug report:

https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/synaptic/+bug/24747

Thanks again. I cannot say this enough.

If we don't find a better solution I would vote for using your tango
styled icons.

Sebastian



I prefer Andreas' solution...can we attach that to the bug report too?


Everyone can attach stuff to bug reports. So feel free to do so.

But Anderson hasn't yet(?) provided a full theme and there are still the
outstanding issues that I mentioned in my last email.

I tried the same in my first approach to create icons, but could not find a
satisfying solution. But perhaps the discussion here is more fertile.

Thanks,

Sebastian


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Re: [ubuntu-art] request: tango style synaptic icons

2006-04-05 Thread Pascal Klein
On Tue, 2006-04-04 at 13:11 +0200, Josué Alcalde González wrote:
 El mar, 04-04-2006 a las 13:12 +1000, Pascal Klein escribió:
  On Mon, 2006-04-03 at 22:49 +0200, Étienne Bersac wrote:
   Hello,
   
The supported status icons aren't to good, and they are only a  
proof of
concept. Perhaps, when a water mark icon they could look ok, but I  
think
they won't with 16x16 size.
synaptic.zip
   
   Very nice. But clearly won't fit in 16x16 square.
  
  They need to be touched up in gimp for decent use as 16x16 icons, just
  like the other Tango icons which are smaller than 22x22. :)
  
 Yes, I know. Perhaps something like this.

Yep. Would you like some help with the rest?

Pascal

   
   Étienne.osué
   
   
   
  
  Pascal
  
  


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Re: [ubuntu-art] request: tango style synaptic icons

2006-04-05 Thread Who
On 4/4/06, Andreas Nilsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sebastian Heinlein wrote:
  hello,
 
  I designed the original package status icons in synaptic. It would be
  nice if someone could do some tango styled ones. The icons have to
  reflect the status of the package:
 
 
 [snip]
 
  New icons don't need to follow my old metaphor:
 
  At the moment I use a filled box to show that the package is installed.
  A white box represents an uninstalled package. Arrows indicate an
  upgrade (up arrow), downgrade (down arrow) or installation (left arrow).
  To be removed packages get a red cross.
 
  Furthermore we use the distribution icon in a separate column to
  indicate that the package is part of the official repository. It would
  be nice if someone could find a way to merge this to icons.
 
 
 How about something along the lines of this:
 http://ramnet.se/~nisse/diverse/temp/synaptic-proposal.png ?
 Installed packages are in color, uninstalled packages are in monocrome
 and toned down.

 The good thing about this solution is that the shapes are more
 distinguishable  this way, the bad thing is that it's not using the
 checkbox-style metaphor any more.
 What do you think, fellow ubuntu-artists?
 - Andreas

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I really like it:
I think it should be a closed box for uninstalled stuff and an open
box for installed (and perhaps the saturation shange is necessary too)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] request: tango style synaptic icons

2006-04-05 Thread Pascal Klein
On Wed, 2006-04-05 at 00:37 +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
 Sebastian Heinlein wrote:
  hello,
 
  I designed the original package status icons in synaptic. It would be
  nice if someone could do some tango styled ones. The icons have to
  reflect the status of the package: 
 

 [snip]
 
  New icons don't need to follow my old metaphor:
 
  At the moment I use a filled box to show that the package is installed.
  A white box represents an uninstalled package. Arrows indicate an
  upgrade (up arrow), downgrade (down arrow) or installation (left arrow).
  To be removed packages get a red cross.
 
  Furthermore we use the distribution icon in a separate column to
  indicate that the package is part of the official repository. It would
  be nice if someone could find a way to merge this to icons.
 

 How about something along the lines of this: 
 http://ramnet.se/~nisse/diverse/temp/synaptic-proposal.png ?
 Installed packages are in color, uninstalled packages are in monocrome 
 and toned down.
 
 The good thing about this solution is that the shapes are more 
 distinguishable  this way, the bad thing is that it's not using the 
 checkbox-style metaphor any more.
 What do you think, fellow ubuntu-artists?
 - Andreas
 

I agree with Cory on this one, but that definitely is a step forward.
How about just alterning the icons we need that would normally otherwise
be monochrome? Less work and consistent?

Pascal


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Re: [ubuntu-art] request: tango style synaptic icons

2006-04-05 Thread Josué Alcalde González
El mié, 05-04-2006 a las 12:44 +1000, Pascal Klein escribió:
 Yep. Would you like some help with the rest?

I sent them yesterday to the list. Haven't they arrived?


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Re: [ubuntu-art] request: tango style synaptic icons

2006-04-05 Thread Sebastian Heinlein
Am Mittwoch, den 05.04.2006, 11:03 +0100 schrieb Who:
  The good thing about this solution is that the shapes are more
  distinguishable  this way, the bad thing is that it's not using the
  checkbox-style metaphor any more.
  What do you think, fellow ubuntu-artists?
  - Andreas
 I really like it:
 I think it should be a closed box for uninstalled stuff and an open
 box for installed (and perhaps the saturation shange is necessary too)

At first thanks to all of you! I am quite low on time at the moment and
therefore my replies have a minor delay.
 
Currently the icons reflect two information at the same time: on the one
hand the status and on the other hand the planned action.

I am unsure about using the same icon column to show two separated
information.

Another problem is locking. It would be nice to see if a locked package
is installed or not.

Regards,

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Re: [ubuntu-art] request: tango style synaptic icons

2006-04-05 Thread Sebastian Heinlein
Am Mittwoch, den 05.04.2006, 16:20 +0200 schrieb Josué Alcalde González:
 El mié, 05-04-2006 a las 12:44 +1000, Pascal Klein escribió:
  Yep. Would you like some help with the rest?
 
 I sent them yesterday to the list. Haven't they arrived?
 

I attached them to a bug report:

https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/synaptic/+bug/24747

Thanks again. I cannot say this enough.

If we don't find a better solution I would vote for using your tango
styled icons.

Sebastian


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Re: [ubuntu-art] request: tango style synaptic icons

2006-04-04 Thread Pascal Klein
On Mon, 2006-04-03 at 22:49 +0200, Étienne Bersac wrote:
 Hello,
 
  The supported status icons aren't to good, and they are only a  
  proof of
  concept. Perhaps, when a water mark icon they could look ok, but I  
  think
  they won't with 16x16 size.
  synaptic.zip
 
 Very nice. But clearly won't fit in 16x16 square.

They need to be touched up in gimp for decent use as 16x16 icons, just
like the other Tango icons which are smaller than 22x22. :)

 
 Étienne.osué
 
 
 

Pascal


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Re: [ubuntu-art] request: tango style synaptic icons

2006-04-04 Thread Josué Alcalde González
El mar, 04-04-2006 a las 13:12 +1000, Pascal Klein escribió:
 On Mon, 2006-04-03 at 22:49 +0200, Étienne Bersac wrote:
  Hello,
  
   The supported status icons aren't to good, and they are only a  
   proof of
   concept. Perhaps, when a water mark icon they could look ok, but I  
   think
   they won't with 16x16 size.
   synaptic.zip
  
  Very nice. But clearly won't fit in 16x16 square.
 
 They need to be touched up in gimp for decent use as 16x16 icons, just
 like the other Tango icons which are smaller than 22x22. :)
 
Yes, I know. Perhaps something like this.
  
  Étienne.osué
  
  
  
 
 Pascal
 
 


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Re: [ubuntu-art] request: tango style synaptic icons

2006-04-04 Thread Andreas Nilsson

Sebastian Heinlein wrote:

hello,

I designed the original package status icons in synaptic. It would be
nice if someone could do some tango styled ones. The icons have to
reflect the status of the package: 

  

[snip]


New icons don't need to follow my old metaphor:

At the moment I use a filled box to show that the package is installed.
A white box represents an uninstalled package. Arrows indicate an
upgrade (up arrow), downgrade (down arrow) or installation (left arrow).
To be removed packages get a red cross.

Furthermore we use the distribution icon in a separate column to
indicate that the package is part of the official repository. It would
be nice if someone could find a way to merge this to icons.

  
How about something along the lines of this: 
http://ramnet.se/~nisse/diverse/temp/synaptic-proposal.png ?
Installed packages are in color, uninstalled packages are in monocrome 
and toned down.


The good thing about this solution is that the shapes are more 
distinguishable  this way, the bad thing is that it's not using the 
checkbox-style metaphor any more.

What do you think, fellow ubuntu-artists?
- Andreas

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Re: [ubuntu-art] request: tango style synaptic icons

2006-04-04 Thread Corey Burger
snip
 How about something along the lines of this:
 http://ramnet.se/~nisse/diverse/temp/synaptic-proposal.png ?
 Installed packages are in color, uninstalled packages are in monocrome
 and toned down.

 The good thing about this solution is that the shapes are more
 distinguishable  this way, the bad thing is that it's not using the
 checkbox-style metaphor any more.
 What do you think, fellow ubuntu-artists?
 - Andreas

Colour vs non-colour is a good start, but the icons must have
different shapes because not only is colour/non-colour crappy for
accessiblilty, even non-disabled people will have to look more
closely, as the human brain is good at shape distinction. This is why
most of the icons are distinctinctly differently shapes.

Corey

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