Re: Telstra Infiltration?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jan 20, 2008 4:26 PM, James Purser wrote: > > On Sun, 2008-01-20 at 16:23 +1100, Peter Garrett wrote: > > On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 11:54:54 +1100 > > Scott Sinclair wrote: > > > > > All it does is change the default DNS Servers.. This surely is much easier > > > to do with NetworkManager, then to go to the extents of installing bind .. > > > > Unless you stop your router's dhcp from overwriting > > (actually *replacing*) /etc/resolv.conf, it will revert. One hack is to > > add a script that stops it -see: > > Orrr, you could give your machine a static ip and be done with it. > Static IP plus custom /etc/resolv.conf seems to be the easiest way to > handle this. Unless of course bigpond is capturing all dns queries on > its networks and routing them to it's own DNS servers, in which case > nothing is going to help. > -- > James Purser It dosent seem to be givin the instructions on the telstra url earlier. The other option is if you router/adsl modem support specifying dns servers is to put into it the servers specified by that telstra page earlier or to put OpenDNS servers into the router. That way all machines connected to your router get updated DNS records. I know most Linksys units support alternative dns settings and so does my netcomm nb9w. - - -Karl -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: http://firegpg.tuxfamily.org iD8DBQFHkt2gP8xl1UrN+1cRAkreAJ9Poq5bH50nkuXuVY6HzYqVzmk3wgCgnRPp NBeZswoBOp6TDuGAxXVXke8= =FEjL -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Telstra Infiltration?
On Sun, 2008-01-20 at 16:23 +1100, Peter Garrett wrote: > On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 11:54:54 +1100 > Scott Sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > All it does is change the default DNS Servers.. This surely is much easier > > to do with NetworkManager, then to go to the extents of installing bind .. > > Unless you stop your router's dhcp from overwriting > (actually *replacing*) /etc/resolv.conf, it will revert. One hack is to > add a script that stops it -see: Orrr, you could give your machine a static ip and be done with it. Static IP plus custom /etc/resolv.conf seems to be the easiest way to handle this. Unless of course bigpond is capturing all dns queries on its networks and routing them to it's own DNS servers, in which case nothing is going to help. -- James Purser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Telstra Infiltration?
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 11:54:54 +1100 Scott Sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > All it does is change the default DNS Servers.. This surely is much easier > to do with NetworkManager, then to go to the extents of installing bind .. Unless you stop your router's dhcp from overwriting (actually *replacing*) /etc/resolv.conf, it will revert. One hack is to add a script that stops it -see: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2007-July/119108.html errata: the "chattr" method doesn't work. The "dhclient-enter-hooks" method does work. The URL also gives the "prepend" method in /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf . That should also work. Peter -- "INX Is Not X" Live CD based on Ubuntu 7.04 : http://inx.maincontent.net Screenshots slideshow: http://inx.maincontent.net/album/1.png.html pgp9oo5Gcf82M.pgp Description: PGP signature -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Ubuntu on Dell laptops here in Aus?
Thanks for that information, Matt. Everything works perfectly on this machine (Epc) including the webcam - in fact the camera capture programme used is is far superior to camorama - at least the Dapper edition of it. My Maxtor Mini has a capacity of 60 GB and works fine with the Epc but the power requirement of the Maxtor means connecting the Epc to the mains which is not always convenient. I will keep the SDHC card in mind - thanks for the tip. Andre On 20/01/2008, Matthew Hannigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 08:28:01AM +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > ...and it also responds to voice commands. > > > > It really is an amazing machine. The Xandros installation works very, > very > > well. > > I also got one and agree! > > The internal flash is 4 of which only 1.3g is left over from > the xandros system and a recovery partition. > > I bought a 4gb SDHC card for the slot; that gives me plenty of > disk space. The card was a lexar from Dick Smith which comes > with a usb card reader - useful if you want to attach it > to another machine. > > Now I just have to get a C compiler and other bits and pieces > on to it. I won't go ubuntu (yet). It's quite good as it > is. > > There are a few revisions of these things out already; 7a, > 7b, 7c. I don't know what the difference is but apparently > some or all of the earlier ones webcam didn't / wasn't > enabled to work out of the box. > > My rev 7c works fine. > > > Matt > > > > > -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Telstra Infiltration?
On Sun, 2008-01-20 at 11:54 +1100, Scott Sinclair wrote: > On Sun 20 Jan, 2008 at 07:57:48 +1000, Daniel Mons wrote: > > Shane Handley wrote: > > > Can anyone rid me of these bastards? I get stabby whenever I see that > > > logo. Or is this something I will be forced to deal with as a BigPond > > > user? > > > > 1) Install BIND on your system (sudo apt-get install bind9). > > Wow .. there is *no* reason at all to install bind? > > Did anyone read the page that he provided? > http://websearch.bigpond.com/bpdnshelp.do > > All it does is change the default DNS Servers.. This surely is much > easier > to do with NetworkManager, then to go to the extents of installing > bind .. > > Regards, > Scott > I've tried adding those DNS servers in NetworkManager but it does not seem to work. It still redirects to a BigPond search page. Using OpenDNS addresses works, but I still have to deal with the openDNS search for single words. Just another reason to avoid Telstra I guess. Regards, Shane Handley -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Ubuntu on Dell laptops here in Aus?
On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 08:28:01AM +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > ...and it also responds to voice commands. > > It really is an amazing machine. The Xandros installation works very, very > well. I also got one and agree! The internal flash is 4 of which only 1.3g is left over from the xandros system and a recovery partition. I bought a 4gb SDHC card for the slot; that gives me plenty of disk space. The card was a lexar from Dick Smith which comes with a usb card reader - useful if you want to attach it to another machine. Now I just have to get a C compiler and other bits and pieces on to it. I won't go ubuntu (yet). It's quite good as it is. There are a few revisions of these things out already; 7a, 7b, 7c. I don't know what the difference is but apparently some or all of the earlier ones webcam didn't / wasn't enabled to work out of the box. My rev 7c works fine. Matt -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Telstra Infiltration?
On Jan 20, 2008 11:54 AM, Scott Sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun 20 Jan, 2008 at 07:57:48 +1000, Daniel Mons wrote: > > Shane Handley wrote: > > > Can anyone rid me of these bastards? I get stabby whenever I see that > > > logo. Or is this something I will be forced to deal with as a BigPond > > > user? > > > > 1) Install BIND on your system (sudo apt-get install bind9). > > Wow .. there is *no* reason at all to install bind? If it's installed as a caching dns server, that might be a benefit? > All it does is change the default DNS Servers.. This surely is much easier > to do with NetworkManager, then to go to the extents of installing bind .. I just set my /etc/resolv.conf to point at the openDNS servers - seems fast.. Cheers, Frode -- http://www.kiva.org/lender/frode -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Telstra Infiltration?
On Sun 20 Jan, 2008 at 07:57:48 +1000, Daniel Mons wrote: > Shane Handley wrote: > > Can anyone rid me of these bastards? I get stabby whenever I see that > > logo. Or is this something I will be forced to deal with as a BigPond > > user? > > 1) Install BIND on your system (sudo apt-get install bind9). Wow .. there is *no* reason at all to install bind? Did anyone read the page that he provided? http://websearch.bigpond.com/bpdnshelp.do All it does is change the default DNS Servers.. This surely is much easier to do with NetworkManager, then to go to the extents of installing bind .. Regards, Scott -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Telstra Infiltration?
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 07:57:48 +1000 Daniel Mons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Shane Handley wrote: [snip] > > Can anyone rid me of these bastards? I get stabby whenever I see that > > logo. Or is this something I will be forced to deal with as a BigPond > > user? > > 1) Install BIND on your system (sudo apt-get install bind9). > > 2) Set your machine's DNS resolve to be 127.0.0.1 (localhost). The > easiest way is to edit your /etc/resolv.conf to have localhost as the > only name server (sudo echo "nameserver 127.0.0.1" > /etc/resolv.conf). That won't work :) You need echo "nameserver 127.0.0.1" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf or sudo bash -c "echo 'nameserver 127.0.0.1' > /etc/resolv.conf" Or heck, just use an editor instead ;) > > 3) Close all Firefox windows (this is important, as Firefox will only > read DNS changes on startup). If you have multiple users on your system > (via fast user switching, etc) close their sessions too. Reopen > Firefox, and be free of Telstra's DNS. > > BIND9 by default does not have any forwarders supplied, so it will do > name resolution directly from the root nameservers: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Root_nameserver > [snip] If you try this, you might have to configure your router to have its DNS pointing at the box that has bind9 on it. I tried it here, and /etc/resolv.conf gets replaced on a new dhcp lease, of course - so you are likely to just get your router's dns unless you disable that, and point it at the IP for the box that has bind9 installed. The other issue here, if you have a multi-boot setup, is that each distro/install on the bind9 box will also need bind9 or similar installed, or any other machines on the network will have no DNS when the other "multi boots" are booted... Other than that, it works :) > > As another option, I have heard good things about OpenDNS: > http://www.opendns.com/ > > But I've never used it myself, so I can't comment. I've used it - but it does a similar thing if you typo a URL or whatever - you are redirected to an "opendns" site with a search function and ads. This didn't bother me particularly, but it isn't The Right Thing either. Peter -- "INX Is Not X" Live CD based on Ubuntu 7.04 : http://inx.maincontent.net Screenshots slideshow: http://inx.maincontent.net/album/1.png.html pgpFda5KSeoFx.pgp Description: PGP signature -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Telstra Infiltration?
OpenDNS is great, but it is a pain in the ass to set up on ubuntu... If you have a proper wireless router, or a Windows/Mac Machine, then it's worth it On Jan 20, 2008 8:57 AM, Daniel Mons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Shane Handley wrote: > > Thanks for the explanation Stuart. > > > > Predictably their opt-out instructions do not include Linux: > > > > http://websearch.bigpond.com/bpdnshelp.do > > > > I changed my DNS settings, but to no avail. > > > > Can anyone rid me of these bastards? I get stabby whenever I see that > > logo. Or is this something I will be forced to deal with as a BigPond > > user? > > 1) Install BIND on your system (sudo apt-get install bind9). > > 2) Set your machine's DNS resolve to be 127.0.0.1 (localhost). The > easiest way is to edit your /etc/resolv.conf to have localhost as the > only name server (sudo echo "nameserver 127.0.0.1" > /etc/resolv.conf). > > 3) Close all Firefox windows (this is important, as Firefox will only > read DNS changes on startup). If you have multiple users on your system > (via fast user switching, etc) close their sessions too. Reopen > Firefox, and be free of Telstra's DNS. > > BIND9 by default does not have any forwarders supplied, so it will do > name resolution directly from the root nameservers: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Root_nameserver > > You may find your DNS resolution slower than normal for the first few > minutes of web browsing, as you have to go out of the Telstra network to > resolve names. But BIND9 caches data, so after a few minutes you'll > actually find it will be faster (particularly if you're browsing around > inside a few sites). > > I use BIND9 with root nameserver resolution on all home and business > systems I configure (I usually put it on a central firewall or proxy > machine so the whole LAN/WAN can use it, and all share the DNS cache). > I have had bad experiences with ISP-supplied DNS servers too many times > in the past, and find it infinitely more reliable to handle DNS > "straight from the horses mouth", as it were. > > As another option, I have heard good things about OpenDNS: > http://www.opendns.com/ > > But I've never used it myself, so I can't comment. > > -Dan > > -- > ubuntu-au mailing list > ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au > -- Matthew Rossi I am for Macs, and the open source scene, are you? Read my blog at www.mattr.co.nr. You can also find my podcast at www.penguincentral.co.nr Everything you can imagine is real. Pablo Picasso Spanish Cubist painter (1881 - 1973) http://counter.li.org/cgi-bin/certificate.cgi/455532 -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Telstra Infiltration?
Shane Handley wrote: > Thanks for the explanation Stuart. > > Predictably their opt-out instructions do not include Linux: > > http://websearch.bigpond.com/bpdnshelp.do > > I changed my DNS settings, but to no avail. > > Can anyone rid me of these bastards? I get stabby whenever I see that > logo. Or is this something I will be forced to deal with as a BigPond > user? 1) Install BIND on your system (sudo apt-get install bind9). 2) Set your machine's DNS resolve to be 127.0.0.1 (localhost). The easiest way is to edit your /etc/resolv.conf to have localhost as the only name server (sudo echo "nameserver 127.0.0.1" > /etc/resolv.conf). 3) Close all Firefox windows (this is important, as Firefox will only read DNS changes on startup). If you have multiple users on your system (via fast user switching, etc) close their sessions too. Reopen Firefox, and be free of Telstra's DNS. BIND9 by default does not have any forwarders supplied, so it will do name resolution directly from the root nameservers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Root_nameserver You may find your DNS resolution slower than normal for the first few minutes of web browsing, as you have to go out of the Telstra network to resolve names. But BIND9 caches data, so after a few minutes you'll actually find it will be faster (particularly if you're browsing around inside a few sites). I use BIND9 with root nameserver resolution on all home and business systems I configure (I usually put it on a central firewall or proxy machine so the whole LAN/WAN can use it, and all share the DNS cache). I have had bad experiences with ISP-supplied DNS servers too many times in the past, and find it infinitely more reliable to handle DNS "straight from the horses mouth", as it were. As another option, I have heard good things about OpenDNS: http://www.opendns.com/ But I've never used it myself, so I can't comment. -Dan -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Telstra Infiltration?
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 01:08:33 +1100 Shane Handley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can anyone rid me of these bastards? I get stabby whenever I see that > logo. Or is this something I will be forced to deal with as a BigPond > user? This depends on whether they have multiple addresses for their site, but worth a try... Put this line in your /etc/hosts file: 127.0.0.1 www6.websearch2.bigpond.com Now any redirect to theirURL will simply point at your machine - if you have apache running you will see a 404. If not, you'll get an "Unable to connect.." Unless they use an actual IP number, I guess Peter -- "INX Is Not X" Live CD based on Ubuntu 7.04 : http://inx.maincontent.net Screenshots slideshow: http://inx.maincontent.net/album/1.png.html pgp8UYjiu17Ct.pgp Description: PGP signature -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Ubuntu on Dell laptops here in Aus?
You can't compare clock speeds across different types or revisions/generations of CPUs. Today's CPUs are much more efficient clock-for-clock than their predecessors. See here for an explanation: http://yama.blogsome.com/2007/11/12/megahertz-marketing/ On Sat, 19 Jan 2008, Chris Dinneen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes It was a Pentium 4. But the Clock speed on the EeePC is only ~900MHz. > > martin fricke wrote: > > Do you mean a Pentium 4 2.4GHz? They were released to the market at > > least 5 years ago (up to 6 years) so are old technology. Still seems > > like good performance from a mini notebook though. > > > > > > --- > > On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 10:30:10 +1000, Chris Dinneen > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I work in a Physics Department at a University and I helped one of the > >> Grad students modify his Eee PC so we could install mathematica (the > >> default partition scheme is less than helpful). As a comparison of > >> speed, our 2.4 Ghz Intel Pentium Desktop took 3 times longer to > >> calculate a series of 5 complicated integrals as the EeePC. So the thing > >> certainly doesn't lack speed. -- Your toaster doesn't crash. Your television doesn't crash. Why should your computer? http://www.linux.org.au/linux signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Another call to save the planet.ubuntu.org.au
Greetings, It's been quite a while since the last call for blogs for Planet Ubuntu. In contrast to earth, Planet Ubuntu Australia is rather lacking population, and we'd love to get it some nice new inhabitants. Does anyone have a blog that they would like to be syndicated on planet.ubuntu.org.au. It need not be on the topic of ubuntu much -- but it would be good to at least lean towards the topic of general F/LOSS. Alternatively, if your blog is often updated with everything that happens in your life and you don't necessarily want it all syndicated, many blog software will have category feeds which we can use. Please email me with details including a link to your blog, your real name, and a nickname if you have one. -- Sincerely Melissa Draper http://www.meldraweb.com Phone: 0404 595 395 (intl): +61 404 595 395 P.O Box 1412 Lavington, NSW 2641 -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Telstra Infiltration?
On Sat, 2008-01-19 at 23:46 +1100, Joel Shea wrote: > On 19/01/2008, Shane Handley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Have those evil F**ks been using this new gamearena repository to plant > > their filthy malware into ubuntu machines? Is anyone else experiencing > > this? > > > > I'd suggest checking the md5 sums of your packages, before jumping to > any conclusions. > > Joel. I was jumping to conclusions. Telstra just makes my blood boil. It may not be connected in any way to the repository, but I still feel violated... Furthermore, On Sun, 2008-01-20 at 00:02 +1100, Cefiar wrote: > It's most likely not changed packages, but a technique referred to > as "Wildcard DNS Records". > ... > -- > Stuart Young - aka Cefiar - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for the explanation Stuart. Predictably their opt-out instructions do not include Linux: http://websearch.bigpond.com/bpdnshelp.do I changed my DNS settings, but to no avail. Can anyone rid me of these bastards? I get stabby whenever I see that logo. Or is this something I will be forced to deal with as a BigPond user? Regards, Shane -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
New Blog up and running
Hi. I have set up a new blog. You can find it at http://penguincentral.unixpod.com/blog It can also be found at the Ubuntu-Au Planet which is at http://planet.ubuntu.org.au Enjoy! -- Matthew Rossi I am for Macs, and the open source scene, are you? Read my blog at www.mattr.co.nr. You can also find my podcast at www.penguincentral.co.nr Everything you can imagine is real. Pablo Picasso Spanish Cubist painter (1881 - 1973) http://counter.li.org/cgi-bin/certificate.cgi/455532 -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Telstra Infiltration?
On Sat 19 Jan, 2008 at 23:38:45 +1100, Shane Handley wrote: > For example, when i enter 'evil' into the address bar and hit enter, I > am redirected to: > > http://www6.websearch2.bigpond.com/search?qo=evil&rn=gep_LPmUlQciExp > > When i enter 2 words, google seems to show up. > When you type in one word, firefox will try and resolve it first (because it could be a valid hostname). I would assume that it is resolving, and telstra has added some type of "root record" to try and add an automated search facility. This is the reason also it doesn't work for two words. Regards, Scott -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Telstra Infiltration?
On Saturday 19 January 2008 23:38:45 Shane Handley wrote: > For example, when i enter 'evil' into the address bar and hit enter, I > am redirected to: > > http://www6.websearch2.bigpond.com/search?qo=evil&rn=gep_LPmUlQciExp > > When i enter 2 words, google seems to show up. > > Have those evil F**ks been using this new gamearena repository to plant > their filthy malware into ubuntu machines? Is anyone else experiencing > this? It's most likely not changed packages, but a technique referred to as "Wildcard DNS Records". What happens is that the web browser tries to resolve "evil" as a domain name, and if the name doesn't resolve, the DNS servers actually return the IP of that websearch site instead. It's a very annoying practice and it doesn't surprise me at all that Bigpond are now engaging in it. Now if the DNS server didn't return an address, the browser would then use the word as a search term to the default search engine (google). As spaces are not allowed in domain names, the browser automatically skips the name resolution phase and goes straight to the search. For some info on this and ways around it, have a look at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wildcard_DNS_record -- Stuart Young - aka Cefiar - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Telstra Infiltration?
On 19/01/2008, Shane Handley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: <...> > > Have those evil F**ks been using this new gamearena repository to plant > their filthy malware into ubuntu machines? Is anyone else experiencing > this? > I'd suggest checking the md5 sums of your packages, before jumping to any conclusions. Joel. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Telstra Infiltration?
Greetings list, This evening (Sat Night) after an update, which was followed by an epiphany crash (unusual) and some HAL errors, I rebooted my system and restarted epiphany. When I typed a search term into the address bar, I got a bigpond search page, instead of the familiar google page. For example, when i enter 'evil' into the address bar and hit enter, I am redirected to: http://www6.websearch2.bigpond.com/search?qo=evil&rn=gep_LPmUlQciExp When i enter 2 words, google seems to show up. Have those evil F**ks been using this new gamearena repository to plant their filthy malware into ubuntu machines? Is anyone else experiencing this? Regards, Shane Handley -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: [Osia-discuss] If you could ask Microsoft a question...
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:27:15 +1100, "Sridhar Dhanapalan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 14/01/2008, Jiri Baum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We could have had > > a talk about a technology - any technology - rather than a company. > > Since when are LUG talks titled by company rather than > > technology/project, anyway? > > Last year we had a talk by IBM, about IBM and its approach to Linux . > It (d)evolved into a product demo of their Lotus Notes client for > Linux, but I didn't hear many complaints about either. You may not have, but IBM did. Ron -- Ron Fabre "Man is the best computer we can put Product & Services Manager aboard a spacecraft...and the only one Cybersource Pty Ltd that can be mass produced with unskilled 1/130-132 Stawell St, Richmond labor." - Wernher von Braun P:03 9428 6922 F:03 9428 6944 http://www.cybersource.com.au/ -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
