Re: Can I use Debian DVD's to install on Ubuntu
On Mon, 2008-01-21 at 14:54 +1030, Karl Goetz wrote: > On Mon, 2008-01-21 at 14:12 +1030, squareyes wrote: > > Hi all, > > I have a 3 DVD set of Debian 4 "Etch", and was wondering if I can use > > them to > > install applications like Scribus, Inkscape etc. on Ubuntu 7.04 ? > > No is the short answer. > Not safely, and without causing major long term issues is the longer > answer. > > > > > I have friends who have Ubuntu running on machines with no Internet access, > > and thought if I could add the DVD's to their (mine too, have slow dial up) > > apt.sources list and use them as repositories. Would save them bringing > > their boxes here > > and installing via my slow dialup. > > > > Are there any problems that may rear their ugly heads. > > yes. package conflicts of all sorts :/ > kk The best way to do what you are wanting is to download the Ubuntu 7.04 dvd from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/7.04/release/ Then you can use that one instead Ubuntu 7.10 DVD images are also available from that site. > > > > > Many thanks in advance. > > Take Care > > Winton > > > -- > Karl Goetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Can I use Debian DVD's to install on Ubuntu
On Mon, 2008-01-21 at 14:12 +1030, squareyes wrote: > Hi all, > I have a 3 DVD set of Debian 4 "Etch", and was wondering if I can use > them to > install applications like Scribus, Inkscape etc. on Ubuntu 7.04 ? No is the short answer. Not safely, and without causing major long term issues is the longer answer. > > I have friends who have Ubuntu running on machines with no Internet access, > and thought if I could add the DVD's to their (mine too, have slow dial up) > apt.sources list and use them as repositories. Would save them bringing > their boxes here > and installing via my slow dialup. > > Are there any problems that may rear their ugly heads. yes. package conflicts of all sorts :/ kk > > Many thanks in advance. > Take Care > Winton > -- Karl Goetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Can I use Debian DVD's to install on Ubuntu
Hi all, I have a 3 DVD set of Debian 4 "Etch", and was wondering if I can use them to install applications like Scribus, Inkscape etc. on Ubuntu 7.04 ? I have friends who have Ubuntu running on machines with no Internet access, and thought if I could add the DVD's to their (mine too, have slow dial up) apt.sources list and use them as repositories. Would save them bringing their boxes here and installing via my slow dialup. Are there any problems that may rear their ugly heads. Many thanks in advance. Take Care Winton -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Telstra Infiltration?
Frode Egeland wrote: >> Wow .. there is *no* reason at all to install bind? > > If it's installed as a caching dns server, that might be a benefit? BIND is not limited just to people hosting DNS services. It's lightweight, and works perfectly fine as a read-only caching DNS server that resolves directly from root nameservers. What do you think 99% of Australian ISPs use to cache domain names they don't own or control? BIND, of course. BIND's default install sets it up to resolve names directly from the root nameservers (bypassing any of Telstra's or any other ISP's inbuilt stupidity), and is set to cache by default. Installing it requires zero configuration other than setting your DNS to point to localhost (a trivial task, even for home users). Considering this thread has gone on for dozens of posts now, installing BIND seems like a perfectly valid fix to bypass all of Telstra's DNS idiocy. Don't confuse the fact that people use BIND for so much more with it being inappropriate for low-end, single-user, cache-only setups. -Dan PS: This post sent to you by my ISP's SMTP server, with it's name resolved by a caching-only BIND9 install on a Linux machine. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Ubuntu on Dell laptops here in Aus?
On Jan 21, 2008 6:46 AM, Leslie Gossner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > David Whyte wrote: > On Jan 20, 2008 9:53 PM, Andrew G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi dov, > > I just wanted to say thank for all this detailed info. Also, the ASUS > Eee PC sounds like a fun & practical PC to have (I've recommend it to > a friend who wants to use a laptop for standard tasks..) and I'll > probably still get a Dell as I'd like to still be able to play around > with Ubuntu. > > I don't have an EeePC (yet) but I really like its form. Anyways, I > saw that you could run full blown Ubuntu on there, even with the 3D > effects. I will probably wait for a slightly better screen. I really > couldn't work on something with such low resolution, especially if I > chose to do some programming in an IDE. > > Anyways, a video of the EeePC running compiz > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru780Jfc1bQ > > Cheers, > Whytey > > > Hmm this is a very interesting discussion. I have an old steam driven > Toshiba atm and everything on it works but the battery life is woeful at > best. I somehow dont think th eeePc will suit my usage. If i was willing to > spend say $1500-2500 on a laptop. what couple people recommend as powerful > yet Ubuntu friendly? I hate to say it but most likely i will dual boot XP > and Kubuntu 7.04 (this is the last version of Linux kernel i can get my > iBurst USB modem to work with). Xp will just be for games but i play a lot > of games at work and Wine doesn't love me. > Leslie > > P.S Battery life would be a big bonus to me as my current model struggles > at 2 hours of web browsing. Hey Guys, I bought a Dell XPS M1210 and just made sure I got a nvidia card. I bought a dell because they are supporting Ubuntu even if not in AU yet. I have never booted the bundled OS on it (vista). And dont regret my decision at all. I also bought it with a 6 and 9 cell battery. With the 9 cell i'll get about 5 hours web browsing, and I tend not to use 6 cell unplugged much. And given my current experience, i'll prob upgrade to a new dell every year. - Karl -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Telstra Infiltration?
On Jan 20, 2008 11:59 PM, Jeff Waugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I agree. No reason to install BIND unless you're hosting names. > > One *great* reason to install BIND: Caching. Very handy for small networks, > and absolutely critical if you want to run a performant mail server. :-) > > - Jeff I'd also recommend dnsmasq. It can handle (at your will) dhcp, dns caching, tftp & bootp. You can even configure it to block out those telstra and opendns redirect pages without changing your dns servers. - Karl -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Ubuntu on Dell laptops here in Aus?
David Whyte wrote: On Jan 20, 2008 9:53 PM, Andrew G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi dov, I just wanted to say thank for all this detailed info. Also, the ASUS Eee PC sounds like a fun & practical PC to have (I've recommend it to a friend who wants to use a laptop for standard tasks..) and I'll probably still get a Dell as I'd like to still be able to play around with Ubuntu. I don't have an EeePC (yet) but I really like its form. Anyways, I saw that you could run full blown Ubuntu on there, even with the 3D effects. I will probably wait for a slightly better screen. I really couldn't work on something with such low resolution, especially if I chose to do some programming in an IDE. Anyways, a video of the EeePC running compiz http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru780Jfc1bQ Cheers, Whytey Hmm this is a very interesting discussion. I have an old steam driven Toshiba atm and everything on it works but the battery life is woeful at best. I somehow dont think th eeePc will suit my usage. If i was willing to spend say $1500-2500 on a laptop. what couple people recommend as powerful yet Ubuntu friendly? I hate to say it but most likely i will dual boot XP and Kubuntu 7.04 (this is the last version of Linux kernel i can get my iBurst USB modem to work with). Xp will just be for games but i play a lot of games at work and Wine doesn't love me. Leslie P.S Battery life would be a big bonus to me as my current model struggles at 2 hours of web browsing. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Telstra Infiltration?
> I agree. No reason to install BIND unless you're hosting names. One *great* reason to install BIND: Caching. Very handy for small networks, and absolutely critical if you want to run a performant mail server. :-) - Jeff -- GNOME.conf.au 2008: Melbourne, Australia http://live.gnome.org/Melbourne2008 "MySQL supporters are like people who believe that the moon landings were a hoax. No matter what contrary information they're confronted with, they still consider MySQL to be the best." - ttfkam -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Ubuntu on Dell laptops here in Aus?
On Jan 20, 2008 9:53 PM, Andrew G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi dov, > > I just wanted to say thank for all this detailed info. Also, the ASUS > Eee PC sounds like a fun & practical PC to have (I've recommend it to > a friend who wants to use a laptop for standard tasks..) and I'll > probably still get a Dell as I'd like to still be able to play around > with Ubuntu. I don't have an EeePC (yet) but I really like its form. Anyways, I saw that you could run full blown Ubuntu on there, even with the 3D effects. I will probably wait for a slightly better screen. I really couldn't work on something with such low resolution, especially if I chose to do some programming in an IDE. Anyways, a video of the EeePC running compiz http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru780Jfc1bQ Cheers, Whytey -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Ubuntu on Dell laptops here in Aus?
Hi dov, I just wanted to say thank for all this detailed info. Also, the ASUS Eee PC sounds like a fun & practical PC to have (I've recommend it to a friend who wants to use a laptop for standard tasks..) and I'll probably still get a Dell as I'd like to still be able to play around with Ubuntu. I imagine a Dell PC will give me the ability to more readily explore and experiment than the ASUS EEE? I'll probably wait a few more months anyway to see whether Dell AU releases a Dell with an Ubuntu option. And also see how the ASUS eee is handling.. sounds like it's pretty successful to date! regards, Andrew On 18 Jan, 16:18, Dov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not sure if the market out this part of the world is considered big > enough. Hey, Dells ship to here from Malaysia! Dell does offer great > bang for your buck though and it has a good Dell-Linux section on the > web. I got my Inspiron 1501 a while ago and put Ubuntu on it. Learned > enough in the process to give the following tips: > > - For general Laptop selection, try and get one with nVidia instead of > ATI (although the ATI drivers for Linux are improving a lot) > - Try and get a model that is supported for Linux in the US. > - You can download the Dell version of Ubuntu Gutsy off their website > with all their hacks and drivers in it. Unfortunately it's a DVD sized > download. No idea why. > - When you reformat the hard drive, leave the two small Dell > partitions intact (one at the start of the drive and another at the > end). If you have issues with your laptop, they expect that you will > be able to run their own diagnostics on it to help them with problem > shooting. The other partition is a restore partition that restores the > whole hard drive to it's original specs when it left the factory. > - If you adapt your system on the Dell website (I recommend that you > do!), choose XP instead of Vista. The price of the OS's looks the > same, but they increase the price of the OTHER parts of the laptop if > you select Vista. Spread the price elsewhere. > > I really do recommend the Dells though. They're working hard to be > Linux friendly overall and they can't be beaten on price. > > While you're in NZ, Dick Smith used to sell computers without an OS > and hand you a Linux CD on the way out. Not sure if they still do > though... > > dov > > On Jan 11, 10:08 am, Andrew G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi there. I'm probably going to get a laptop this year... and I found > > this (http://www.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/ubuntu? > > c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs&dgc=IR&cid=11973&lid=471885) and am pretty > > stoked. After perusing the Dell Aussie site though, this doesn't seem > > to be an option for us.. is that right? > > > thanks, > > Andrew > > > -- > > ubuntu-au mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au > > -- > ubuntu-au mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED]://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Telstra Infiltration?
On Jan 19, 8:00 pm, "Frode Egeland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I just set my /etc/resolv.conf to point at the openDNS servers - seems fast.. > There's a free alternative to OpenDNS. I use this "ad free" DNS resolver server: http://www.ifirefly.com I hope this helps. Anyway, I agree about BIND. You may not need the name hosting part of BIND, just the name resolver part. I don't know anything about configuring BIND though. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Telstra Infiltration?
On Jan 19, 9:43 pm, Shane Handley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've tried adding thoseDNSservers in NetworkManager but it does not > seem to work. It still redirects to a BigPond search page. > > Using OpenDNS addresses works, but I still have to deal with the openDNS > search for single words. > I use a reliable DNS resolver server that is ad free: http://www.ifirefly.com I agree. No reason to install BIND unless you're hosting names. You just need a resolver. If you're on Windows, a free DNS resolver server is TreeWalk. Hope this helps. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
